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types. hollywood liberal, democrats like joe biden. how come i can't have dinner with the 36% of the people who like me? >> he was very, very talented, john. >> that was a great dinner. a lot of fun. sad to see him go. kate, we'll see you tomorrow. it's super tuesday. our special coverage starts 6:00 p.m. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. president obama met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today. handshakes, photo ops and a nice, long lunch. diz israel back away sfr. and the woman known as dr. feel good is charged with murder. the numbers are stunning. and bountties placed on the the heads of former nfl stars. a former player says players made money by being paid to
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knock guys down. knock guys down. let's go "outfront." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, stalling israel. when it comes to iran, president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu are going to great lengths to look and sound like they're on the same page. today, there were handshakes, photo ops, a whole lot of cameras in that room. they wore blue ties. a two-hour meeting followed by a lunch and lots of friendly language. >> as i've said, the bond between our two countries is unbreakable. >> israeli prime minister echoed the sentiment saying rendezvoused the and israel as one and the same. >> for them, you are the great satan. we're the little satan. for them, we are you and you are us. and you know something, mr. president? at least on this last point, i
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think they're right. we are you and you are us. we're together. >> but if you listen closely, it's not so cut and dry. there is reason to think the two countries may not be standing together so closely when it comes to iran. >> we do believe there is still a window that allows for a diplomatic resolution to this issue. >> and here's the prime minister. >> israel must have the ability always to defend itself by itself against any threat. and when it comes to israel's security, israel has the right, the sovereign right to make its own decisions. >> now, we spoke to several u.s. diplomats and senior military advisers today to try to read between the lines. most agreed with colonel cedrick layton. he told us quote the talks in
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d.c. make a unilateral israeli attack less likely in the next few months, but stresses, quote, r today's discussions bought us a little time. nothing r more. the bottom line is neither israel or the united states say they will accept a nuclear armed iran, but they don't agree on who when to intervene. they those today to repeat warnings about possible quote activities including a containment chamber used for explosive tests at iran's site. inspectors have been denied access to the site in recent months. the head of the iaea says -- with worries about iran causing oil prices to rise, can president obama keep israel from military action? will sanctions work? that really is perhaps the most crucial question we are facinging right now when it
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comes to iran. netanyahu's former chief of staff wrote an op-ed this weekend, the iranian american journalist is also -- you are side by side. let me start with you, neftali. obviously, this has been much reported on, leon panetta saying iran could be prepared to strike this spring. >> i think the good news from this summit is that obama made very clear that iran is a mortal danger to america's national interest and the entire world and that he's now adopting the doctrine of prevention rather than accepting a nuclear iran. the bad news is that words said in washington don't stop the insulation of centerfuges. as these talks are going on,
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chief inspector reported that iran has -- that they're moving insulations under ground and shortly, the window of opportunity to take out these facilities is going to be closed for israel and tha the crux of the problem. >> how big that window is. in your view. >> exactly. and i think it's important to emphasize there's going to be a certain period where israel can no longer do the job and essentially, obama is telling israel you depend on us. trust us. but does it make sense for the israeli nation to sort of outsource or very existence to obama? that's a very tough request to ask. i don't think we can accept it. >> i'm going to ask you more about timing in a moment. obviously, president obama is relying on them and has put crippling sanctions. he's put europe on board, but you are very skeptical as to what those might achieve.
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>> if the sanctions have the goal to change iran's behavior, that's not going to happen. nobody inside iran believes the sanctions are going to make iran change to american demands. demands they stop their nuclear program, which they claim is for peaceful purposes. and if the sanctions have the side goal of changing the regime by forcing the people to suffer so much they rise up, that's not going to happen either, so what is the goal? we talk about diplomacy, but there really isn't any. there have only be sanctions, only sticks and no carrots. >> what carrot could president obama offer? >> it depends on what your goal i is. contrary to what the israeli government says and our own says is that iran has not made a decision to build a bomb. iran has not moved forward with the weapons program. >> then sanctions themselves if
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that's true, are not justifiable. >> no. >> you can't say you're putting sanctions, you won't have a bomb if they're trying to do that. >> there is. completely inconsistent. >> i think no one in the world anymore has a doubt of iran's intent. i mean, you don't build just over the past two months, you don't install 2,600 centerfuges under ground if you're not going to use it for weapons. you don't enrich uranium 20% for peaceful reasons. you don't develop weaponized warheads for peaceful uses. i think that's behind us. regarding the sanctions, i believe that the current sanction architectture is too soft. >> one question. is it possible that iran is
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doing all these things because they want it to look like they're trying to go down that way because it's pride. they want to show they can and isn't supposed to and they want to show that they can do that even though they're not really? that this is bluffing? >> that's unlikely. our history teaches us something very simple. when a foreign leader says he's going to annihilate you, believe him. we're listening to what ahminedjad says, what ko mae says. we take this threat seriously and so does president obama. president obama has none of the doubts that my friend here is talking about. >> we have to remember -- >> some of these deputies have been indicating as such. coming out with this whole question on a tent. can i ask each of you, this is something more and more people have been asking about. what if iran gets nuclear weapons capability. some say so what. what's wrong with containment?
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>> i think the notion that a maniacal islamic regime will be able to contain ed with the sam rules of rationality apply with ahminedjad as they did with the soviet union is insane. i think the soviet union or anyone accept iran has never talked about annihilating a different nation and that's what iran is doing day in and day out. there's no doubt that iran is the world's biggest export of terror. they're killing people all over the world. they're the lifeline of those butchering syrians. >> obama has accused the revolutionary guard -- >> russia's a far more powerful country. if russia took away its support, he would probably fall, so that's unfair to say. to talk about them as saying they want to wipe another country off the map, they want to annihilate israel, that's not actually true. they've never said they want to,
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or they are going to build a bomb and destroy israel. that's just -- >> last week, one of their senior military officials said if israel threatens them, they're going to wipe them off. >> ahminedjad said israel might be must be wiped off the map. the shout of the iranian nation is forever deaf to israel. i've got 20 quotes of this maniacal leader of iran saying we're going to kill you. i take him seriously. >> final word to you. if it goes in that direction, could containment be a policy we should consider? >> absolutely. i think it should be if it goes in that direction. i think we still have a lot of time to get to the point to even goes there to begin with, but if it were to happen, i don't think iran is anymore dangerous as a country. it's not going to protect the regime and in terms of maniacal, stahlen was maniacal. how many millions of his own people did he kill? i don't think iran is ever going
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to use a nuclear weapon if they decide to build one. >> appreciate you coming on side by side. we're just hours away from super tuesday. one question, can mitt romney clinch the nomination tomorrow? and then the woman known as dr. feelgood is in custody. she wrote 25 prescriptions per day for these painkillers and the break in the case of a woman found murdered in her mercedes. will her husband be taken into custody? to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting, initiate, bill, and track work in real time. you can't live under a dome in minnesota, that's why there's guys like me. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ [♪...] >> announcer: with nothing but his computer, an identity thief
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we're just hours away from the biggest day in the republican presidential campaign. >> i guess president obama is going to be about the economy. and jobs and government being too big that i'm the guy you need to nominate. >> look into the eyes of the candidate, what they overcome and offer to this country. not just what money they have. but where's their soul, their conviction. >> ten states vote tomorrow. over 400 delegate at stake. which is more than all of the primary days so far combined. now, a lot of these states are up for grabs.
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just take a look at this one cnn poll from ohio, which everyone knows is a crucial state. dead heat. not even statistical. literal. between santorum and romney. historically, super tuesday is when the nomination the clinched. bush, clinton, mccain all e mernled after the big day, but tomorrow, nobody will walk away with the actual nomination. not as many states as last time and this whole proportional allocation thing, that's a real problem. some of those guys probably regret it now, unfortunately for the gop, they have caused this to drag out. this has been going on and destroying the party's image. four in ten americans say the process has left them with a less favorable impression of the republican party. okay, so great to have you with us. i appreciate it. let's talk first of all about what everybody needs to do tomorrow to win this thing.
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mitt romney is the guy people are looking at to see if he can do it. he's got to win a majority of delegates. >> yeah, i think the bar's pretty high, but he's won five states in a row. the big moe seems to be behind mitt romney. the key is to get out from behind his strength. ron paul alone with him. but can he win ohio? that would be a major momentum changer because santorum had double dig leads. >> kevin, can he win ohio? >> i do believe he can. i think john's right. this is a campaign that has been organizationally to win delegates. we're in a position to consolidate a lot of the different elements that have been competing across the party for who would make the best nominee and because governor romney has spent the last few contests focusing on the economy, he has done very well and helped serve his argument
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about electability. we'll sit here after these contests tomorrow and wake up wednesday morning. we'll have a candidate that is best positioned to bring the party together and that will be another big selling point. >> so rick santorum, what does he have to do tomorrow? ohio, tennessee and oklahoma. first of all, john, is he out if he doesn't win? >> i don't think anybody's out. the math means this will go on. nobody will clinch the nomination tomorrow. that's just the facts. it's a momentum test. but if rick santorum after that sweep he had, if he can't put some wins on the board, that's a major negative. now, this is neck and neck, but he should have a solid strength in oklahoma and tennessee, but he's got to put some real wins on the board to show he's going to be the last man standing against mitt romney. >> jamal, this is got to be for the guys you're advising, some good news. the long battle has hurt mitt
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romney significantly when it comes to approval rating. 40% unfavorable rating. which i believe is worse than any other recent candidate in american history who has gone on to win the nomination. according to the nbc "wall street journal" poll. you're i'm sure hoping the ground battle continues, yeah? >> yeah. this is good not just for democrats, but because it's helping america to get a real eye in. the one thing that's true about presidential campaigns is they start to reveal who these people are as people. a couple of weeks ago when rick santorum said that going to college made barack obama, wanting kids to go to college made mitt romney a snob. he didn't have much to say. he used that bad word about the gorge town law student. mitt romney still didn't have a lot of say. that's the kind of thing that americans look for you to stand
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up and corral your people and say we've got too far. let's get back to the center of the debate. and that's what i think mitt romney -- >> he did give the you know, the least shutdown kind of comment about rush limbaugh. certainly rick santorum was much stronger in saying it was absurd. there's also been a backlash to the rush limbaugh situation. a hawaii station has dropped him as well. armed forces did not. he apologized again today saying he had dropped to the level of the left. here he is. >> i descended to their level. when i used those two words to describe sandra. that was my error. i became like them and i again, sincerely apologize for using those two words. >> at the -- when this first happened, what do you think went through mitt romney's head? he said that wasn't appropriate or words i would have used or
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something like that, but didn't say that was absurd or ridiculous. >> look, i don't think anybody is out there running for president tryinging to be the leader of the free world based on an arguments about that take place on talk radio and talk radio controversies. i think most people that run for president are running because they want to care care of very big things. the economy, national security. >> kevin, you're right, but the problem -- >> because they're looking at reasons why they can talk about the big issues that are affecting people in their lives, that's why they run for president. i think getting drawn into a lot of the cable talk is not one of those things that becomes a priority. >> the reality is of course that talk radio has been determining the talking points for far too many folks. that is a real problem of the party and the role of a real leader is to stand up and say stop, enough. to police their own.
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>> when bill clinton -- >> hold on, guys. >> what happened was -- >> let john finish. >> but as bill clinton did with sister, this has a real dynamic for the republican party, it alienates women. independent women. not just from talk radio, but from the conservative cause. that's the reason this resognating deeper. >> i think that's right and i think there's a lot of other issues where candidates can go out and address the real big concerns women have. whether it's education, health care, the overall economy whether than having it all into one incident with a radio talk show host. i think this was a discussion that a lot of people had in the country. took up a lot of space on cable news. when your question is how did the candidates handle this, candidates have to go out and talk about what they believe are the big issues. the bigger issues that are driving the american electorate's decision when chooses a president. >> thanks very much to all
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three. we simply hit pause. now to california where an l.a. county doctor has been arrested for murder after three of her patients died from prescription drug overdoses. the allegation was that three otherwise healthy men were murdered by a deadly cocktail of prescription drugs. lisa sing was arrested last week after a lengthy undercover investigation into a case of a doctor turning out pill prescriptions by the thousands. investigators say she wrote as many as 27,000 prescriptions in three years. that's 25 prescriptions a day, 365 days a year. it seems to be an extraordinary amount of prescription drugs moving out of a strip mall out of a california freeway. the murder charge itself. that has never happened in california and is rare nationwide. >> as you know, we have prosecuted cases charging involuntary manslaughter, most recently, conrad murray in the
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michael jackson case, but this was a little l different. this involves multiple victims and a large amount of undercover work by both the dea and state medical board. >> the sting operation went on for years. miguel marquez is working the e story for us. obviously, usually in l.a., but wonderful to have you here tonight. how was she doing this? >> it was so unbelievably simple. you'd walk into our office with a back problem. you'd tell her about it. and she would prescribe anything you wanted, anything she could at several different pharmacies to cover her tracks. i pulled some of the names. everything from ox con tin, xanax, hydromorphone, morphine, the list goes on and on. >> it was very clear that people who had problems or addictions would go to her and she knew what she is doing.
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>> they were coming from other parts of the country. from seizure seizu >> 27,000 prescriptions over three years is the alleged amount. how much money would chef made from that? >> she made millions. there was one indication that she charged $110 per visit. if you look at that over the number of prescriptions she made, also an indication that she and her husband paid $5 million cash for an office building two years ago if that gives you an idea of how much money she was making. >> wow, this we were talking about this, this has not happened before. conrad murray was charged with involuntary manslaughter. she's charged with three counts of second degree murder. are they considering other charges? >> they are. it is possible there are more out there. some reporting done a couple of years ago on as many as six to eight people directly or
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indirectly related to prescriptions. >> it seems sort of like in this day and age, all these people are flocking to one person that would give you drugs, there would be a very blatant trail on social media. >> a variety of reasons. the people seeking the drugs for the most part wanted them and weren't out there advertising the fact they were looking for these drugs. also, she was very smart. she would make the prescriptions and smartest thing she did was to make the prescriptions at different pharmacies. you'd go in, she'd give you three different drugs from three different pharmacies. it was difficult r for them to see that this was happening. >> appreciate it. are nfl coaches paying players to ininjury star players? and canada's making moves on the international stage. a number of things they're doing to become a next superpower. i've had surgery and yes, i have occasional constipation.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting, do the work and find the "outfront 5." first tonight, president obama and benjamin netanyahu going to great lengths today to look and sound like they're on the same page when it comes to dealing with iran's nuclear threat. today, handshakes, photo ops and a two-hour meeting and working lunch. was the united states able to keep israel from taking military
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action against iran? former director of the national security agency tells "outfront" the talks in d.c. make an attack look less likely in the next few months, but today's discussions bought us a little time. nothing more. two, china says it's increasing military spending by 11%. an expert says the spending is likely going towards missile systems. specifically towards the antishift missile system. experts say it will be a game changer that will have profound consequenc consequences. the increase comes as the u.s. proposes slashing spending. three, eric holder publicly defended the killing of suspected terrorists even if
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their u.s. citizens. holder says the president had the authority to order such killings through the authorization which approved any force necessary against al-qaeda or any such groups. it also addressed critics. >> some have argued that the president is required to get permission from a federal court before taking action gens a united states citizen who is a senior operational leader of al-qaeda or associated forces. this is simply not accurate. due process and judicial process are not one in the same. particularly when it comes to national security. the constitution guarantees due process. it does not guarantee judicial process. >> the human rights watch is among groups criticizing the so-called target killing and notion the the entire world is a battlefield. four, india has banned exports
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of cotton. india put the ban in place immediately because they're worried about a supply crunch. it was just a year ago when prices hit an all-time high due to supply concerns. forecast predicted the decline in cotton use after last year, several suppliers started to turn to alternative fibers. it's been 214 days since is u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? stocks fell today because for our country to grow, we need china to grow and china cut its growth forecast to 7.5%. sounds like a lot, but it's really not. for year, nfl players have earned big money making bigs, but a recent investigation found players and coaches are taking it to a whole new level. greg williams was questioned today about his 2009 saints.
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according to the investigation, the nfl says his defense awarded catch payments to players who delivered excessive hits. $1500 for a knockout. $1,000 for a cart-off. meaning the player had to be carried off the field. kurt warner, brett favre, were just two players believed to have targeted and up to 27 players may be involved in places bounties on opposing teams. some people say this paying for performance could be a lot more widespread than that. one is coy, who played for bills in 2002. really appreciate you taking the time to be with us. did this happen at the buffalo bills? >> in buffalo, we had a culture of relentlessness. we wanted a competitive edge over our components. and you know, we crossed the line. we went a little too far when we took pay for play to a level where it shouldn't have gone.
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pay for play is harmless when you're talking about interceptions, touchdowns or causing fumbles. but when you're rewarding players financially with money, you know, you don't want to reward players for injurying another player. that's when the line is crossed. >> so were these amounts about what people were betting at buffalo in terms of $1,500 for a knockout, a thousand more if a player was incapacitated? >> it was never a set dollar amount. there was never a method to this system, is what some are labeling it. >> how did it work? how were the amounts determined? swrus a group of people got together, threw money into a pool and that particular game? >> that's right. there was no system in place. just a week to week thing. it was a group of people who came together and said i'll put in this much money for an
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interception or a forced fumble. you know, the problem is when it escalated into a state where you're paying toinanother player and now what we know with injuries, concussions, the long-term effects of playing the game of football, we know it can't escalate to that level. >> dave duerson's son was on this show recently talking about how he thought his father had committed suicide because of the brain injuries he sustained while playing for teams including the chicago bears. do you think that it motivated players to hit harder? that these sorts of not just the amount of money, because maybe to some highly paid football player is the amount of money wasn't huge. but just the whole fact that it was there. betting on who could hit someone harder. did it motivate people to be
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meaner? >> i think what this is is a classic case of group think. terminology used to describe how a group of people will do bad, irrational things when they're in a group setting. greg williams said instead of getting caught up in it, i should have stopped it and all those involved including myself should have stood up and said this isn't right. why are we condoning injuring another player? roger goodell and the players association have come together over the past months to make sure we don't have certain types of hits anymore. that we protect our players, cut back training camp. so this is yet another example of something that has existed in the nfl and we know we cannot accept it any longer. >> do you think for the sport of football to be safe and not something where people can get serious damage, i don't know you've been injured. can you have the sport of football the way americans like
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to watch it and not have those risks? >> great question. there's wrong with playing this game aggressively. hit people. hit them hard. legally. just don't condone it by rewarding them financially if someone gets hurt. people are going to get hurt. this is football. we can have a competitive, exciting game for r fans. a violent game even, but with integrity, respect for other players. >> so you think it can be violent and city have integrity. >> absolutely. big hits are encouraged. it's a wonderful game. it's a violent game. we just don't need to reward players for injuring another person. >> thank you for your time tonight. senator john mccain calls for air strikes in syria today. is that the right call? and a break in the case of michigan's mercedes murder. could the victim's husband be the next one taken into custody?
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we do the same thing every night, our outer circle where we reach out to sources around the world and we want to talk tonight and syria and senator john mccain's call for united states air strikes on assad regime forces. those forces have been trying to squash a popular uprising for a year. 75 people have died. >> if we want to stand by and watch syrians being massacred in
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the most brutal and incredibly genocidal fashion, then this is the decision we can make, but please don't tell me we can't do it. we can if we have the will. >> opposition activists report at least 15 people were killed today as aid workers were denied entry into the homs neighborhood. >> reporter: the civilian death toll continuing to mount. deaths from the north of the country, hammer homs even in the suburbs of damascus and right in the south, but it's in homs where the red cross have been trying to get into that beleaguered neighborhood. for four days, they have been refused access. they're accusing the government there, activists accusing the
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government of summary executions of burning the evidence inside that neighborhood. the red cross aimed to deliver some aid to humanitarian and medical supplies. erin? >> thanks very much. a 100-year-old part of the dublin saint was stolen this weekend. the preserved heart has been on d display inside the cathedral since the 13th century. erin mcloughlin following the story. i asked how this happened and if police ever expect to recover the heart. >> there was no visible signs of the break in at the cathedral or chapel, however, that steel cage was wrenched open and the box that contained the relic and of course the relic itself was stolen. now, police are scouring hours of footage taken from the
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entrance of the cathedral to try and find out who was behind this and it has cathedral officials scratching their heads because they say that the heart had very little economic value, but it was of huge symbolic importance to members of the clergy. now, this isn't the first time that something like this has happened in ireland. earlier this january, a relic was taken from a church in dublin. and now, let's check in with anderson cooper. what's coming up? >> rush limbaugh's latest explanation on his comments about the woman he labeled quote a slut and a prostitute. he's since apologized, but comments none the less have advertisers bailing on the host. we're going to talk about that with david axelrod. also tonight, could the u.s. be on the verge of joining the fight in syria? you just played some of john
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mccain calling for air strikes. that's one of the voices of the opposition. we'll also ask about syria's latest attempts to discredit him and his network and a dramatic rescue today from the indiana tornado involving a 2-year-old girl. it happened over the weekend. she was taken off life support. >> looking forward to that. and we have a big development in the gross point murder case. joseph gattis has been charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. you may recall the story here. jane is a marketing executive, mother of two. she was found strangled in the backseat of her mercedes about a month ago. he reportedly has a i.q. of a third grader. has claimed that the victim's husband promised him $200 to carry out the hit. paul cowen was a contributor,
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former new york city homicide prosecutor. he accused bob bashara, then accused again. turned out he had affairs, rather strange personal life, gentz has been charged with conspiracy to commit murder. does there have to be someone else you conspired with or no? >> conspiracy means that there are two or more people involved in the crime. the question is, who's person number two? his original story was that bashara was his coconspirator. >> how relevant is this iq issue? >> it could be relevant. his iq is about 65, which puts
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him well below average. if they're going to be relying on a confession from someone with a low iq, it's going to have a bearing. gentz has changed his story two or three times and if you're depending upon his confession to implicate bashara, you have a problem out of case. >> but if they thought bashara did it, wouldn't they have already taken him into custody? >> great question, but with a conspiracy indictment, the answer is no. that's because you have to corroborate the story. so you can go into a police station and say i killed somebody with acting in concert with somebody else. your confession can't be used unless this independent corroboration and the police don't seem to have that at this point. they've got some good motive, but we haven't heard anything about dna, blood evidence that would link him to the crime. >> we'll see what happens in the next few days. thank you. in the last ten years, there
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have been 8,000 cases of men using acid to punish and disfigure women. the woman who won an academy award for her documentary about this disturbing trend in pakistan comes "outfront" tonight. and our neighbor to the north makes a play to become a super power. an imperial play. there are a number of reasons why canada is sniffing around. . i think i'm goin-... shhh! we find that we don't need to sleep that much. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i toog nyguil bud i'm stild stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't un-stuff your nose. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ]
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tonight, the use of asid to punish women for doing things like asking for a divorce or turning down a wedding proposal, the last decade alone, there have been more than,000 reported asid attacks in pakistan. it's an atrocity that's gone unpunished until now. 33-year-old pakistani filmmaker won an academy award for documentary about victims of acid attacks inspired the legislature to act. it's considered a crime to carry up to life in prison. she came out front today and i want to warn you before you watch this, some of the pictures are very hard to watch. >> i mean, it's just -- it's just horrific and it's -- i
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mean, it's barbaric. why does it happen? >> you know, it happens specifically in one area of pakistan and it's a culmination of very many things. it has the lowest levels of literacy and highest levels of poverty. it is used for cleaning cotton. you don't need to have a license to buy it. no one can trace it back to you. to kill a woman, you need a gun but to maim her face, you just need a chemical. that's so widely available. and there is a mind-set in that area that violence against women is okay because for years no one's been prosecuted for it. >> and i know that's part of your goal, right? for that to change. i mean, we have met some women in jail in pakistan and it seemed at the very least their frustration is cases never went to trial and no one seemed to listen to their side of the story. >> absolutely. the onus is on the educated pakistani women to give back and to help the uneducated women and
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that's the central thesis of this film. people realize there's strong female characters in the film. strong lawyers, parliamentarians that become the voice for the uneducated women. >> there are some in pakistan frustrated at you saying, well, you're adding to the people in the west they hear pakistan and think bad and dangerous things and said you're adding to that. what do you say to them? >> my response to that is we need to talk about our problems. we cannot afford to sweep them under the carpet. most importantly, you seldom hear of problems in pakistan that have solutions. acid violence has a solution. the parliament in pakistan passed a bill against it. there are people fighting against it so what the film shows is pakistanis want they can solve their own problems so i look at as it as a film with hope and despair. >> and what is the right punishment? i know you said something before that stuck with me which was, if
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you want to kill a woman, you get a gun but it's hard to get. to maim her, ruin her life and her livelihood, you throw acid in her face. is it essentially the same as killing someone? should it carry the same punishment? how have you gotten your head around the right punishment? >> i think it's worse than killing someone because their life ends but when you throw acid on their face, they're forever scarred. each time they look in the mirror, they remember of that time. most women don't leave their home after this happens because there's so much shame associated with it. somehow society made them believe it's their fault this happened. for me, this is like the living dead. >> and of course, an amazing documentary. worth seeing. canada offers up its oil for a couple of fan das apparently. a number of other loonny things our northern neighbor is doing tonight. ing business grows with snow. to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting,
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