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perhaps he'll be awarded a ton of money and the whole darn fraternity will be end up in arrears. if they can make one drunk frat dude think twice about letting a rocket out of his arse, then "ridulist" will have been worth it. erin burnett starts right now. breaking news tonight. we have new details about the u.s. soldier in custody for killing 16 afghan civilians. and should a hospital be forced to pay the parents of a child born with down syndrome? a judge's ruling could have huge implications across this country. and then the president. his poll numbers have taken a hit and we saw it coming, so let's go "outfront." good evening. "outfront" tonight, we have some breaking news. new details are are just coming out about the u.s. army staff sergeant accused of killing 16
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afghan civilian, including nine children. this is that house to house rampage that happened yesterday. here is the latest. we have learned that the staff sergeant is in his 30s and was diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury after a vehicle roll over accident in 2010 in iraq. he was treated for that and then found fit for duty. he has served several tours in iraq. this was his first deployment to afghanistan. now, we also know he's a qualified infantry niper, which means he's trained to hit to kill at 800 meters. they say all evidence indicates he acted alone. he remains in nato custody and we have new details about how the u.s. military learned about the incident and what happened as soon as they found out. let's get to chris lawrence at the pentagon. what more can you tell us? >> one of the biggest tipoffs is when the the afghan villagers showed up at the base carrying their wounded saying someone had
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been shooting at them. now, before that happened, this soldier apparently left the base, walked out about 3:00 in the morning. the afghan security guards new that was not right. they called their american counterpart. the u.s. military did a head count and figured out this soldier was the only one missing. they then scrambled a helicopter into the air to start looking for the soldier, but by that time, before the hospital could locate him, he actually came back into the base, walked in, gave himself up and from one officials are telling us, he envoeked his right not to tell what happened. >> i'm curious about the suspect's family. they are living on the base. we are going live to that base in just a moment in washington state, but what can you tell us about the family? his wife and child? >> he's married, got a couple of kids. about 38 years old.
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you mentioned he had done several tours in iraq. we know that the family was moved to that base over the weekend for their own safety. there's also some procedures being put in place in afghanistan. officials worry about other troops and retaliation. an official says security has been raised across the board at all bases and some individual outposts are doing their own security precautions such as adding guards to guard the barricks at night just in case there is retaliation for this latest attack. >> thank you. there's also serious questions about the joint base, which is a base near seattle, washington, where the suspect was stationed. in december 2010, the stars and stripes payer said the military ins stalation gained the reputation of most troubled.
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in 2010, four soldiers from the base were convicted of killing afghan civilians for sport as part of a quote kill squad. in 2010, three others suffered mental breakdowns after they returned from afghanistan. two were shot to death by police. this is according to reporting from the military newspaper. that same year, 12 soldiers on that base committed suicide and on new year's day this year, a former soldier from the base is believed to have shot a washington park ranger to death. casey wian is following the story and what are you hearing there? >> reporter: >> reporter: all those incidents you mentioned, just one of the reasons why an army veteran who was stationed here, i spoke with this morning who now runs a coffee shop outside the base sort of doubles as an advocacy center. he called the base a rogue base.
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one of the things he pointed out there is an investigation ongoing by the surgeon general of the army. post-traumatic stress disorderer and whether there are allegations that some of these soldiers were given diagnoses less severe than they should have gotten. we also talk today a current soldier here who is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder. he spent 13 years in the army and two tours in iraq. said he needed help. told his superiors that. he says they reacted with skepticism and made it very difficult for him to get treatment. >> the idea that you know, they just didn't care that you know, that i'm asking for help was sort of shocking to me.
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if it was a physical injury to me, what they were doing was akin to sticking their finger in the bullet hole and just twisting. >> reporter: now, we asked that senior noncommissioned officer about whether he was surprised at the incident over the weekend and he said actually not because he himself felt that he had other soldiers who felt they were being asked to go back into combat when they were not ready to do so and perhaps would make a bad decision while they were over there and i want to stress that we have no idea whether post-traumatic stress disorder was an issue over the weekend, but it is definitely a concern here. >> thank you very much. we're going to have much more on post-traumatic stress disorder later on in our program. fewer than 40% of american soldiers who suffer from it actually get help. by the end of the year, the u.s. department of defense -- sent
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additional troops to the reemg at $36 billion. 91,000 american troops are still on the ground in afghanistan. and the human toll is devastating. in terms of u.s. military deaths, there have been more than 1,780 of them since operation enduring freedom began. compare that to the afghan deaths because just last year alone, 3,021 civilians were killed. has any of this been worth it? and what happens to the admission in afghanistan now? seth jones spent years in afghanistan. recently as senior adviser to the commanding general. phil carter, official for the obama administration. good to have you with us. seth, let me start with you. what happens from here? is this something that becomes turning point if the burning of the korans was not one? >> i think what's important here, we've seep it in past cases.
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there have to be -- this was justice done to local tribes, that has to be done fairly quickly. the political process we're doing in the u.s. military can be a little prolonged, but i think afghans have to see something so is moving fairly quickly. >> and certainly as more and more troops leave was u.s. soldiers or u.s. forces working with afghans. hand in hand, right? side by side. is that even possible at this point? >> no, there's a huge trust deficit here and this incident, if only this incident were the only thing we had to worry about. there was a trust deficit caused
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by the burning of the korans. by the shooting of the two officers at ministry of the interior. there's a trust deficit caused by our relationship with pakistan and we have a much broader problem to enable us to transition out and this is just the latest incident. it's a terrible incident. it's a grievous incident. i adpree that military justice has to be done here, but this is hardly their only problem. if anything, this reveals some of the limitations of our current strategy, but by no means the only thing we have to worley about. >> earlier in the day, you were saying the reaction from the korans was worse than the killing of the 16 civilians. >> i think the unfortunate reality in afghanistan, most afghan villagers have faced about 30 years of warfare, so they've seen children, brothers and sisters and fathers and mothers killed over the past
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three decades. in a sense, while i don't want to understate how significant this is, this is become a reality for afghans. the burning of the koran gets to a religious issue that has a potential to be much more national in focus than a very local incident, so i see this as being different in that sense. >> obviously, you served in the pentagon. if this doesn't improve, the obama administration goes back on what the president said today, which is his withdrawal timetable is not effect, but if that were to change, how quickly could they accelerate it? supposedly, the united states is supposed to be out of afghanistan by the end of 2012. if you decide to speed that up, could he? >> the president can if he wants to, but i think the big issue is going to be what's the relationship that endures one of the sticking points between the u.s. and afghanistan has been dpoeshuation of the agreement on the stat of forces.
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this incident and the decision to try him in front of a military court is likely going to frustrate any negotiations we have and as we saw in iraq, that was the end of the mission. and so, if you can't go to a sofa, the relationship ends. >> thanks very much to both of you. in iraq, it was tho issues. that ended up being the breaking point. we'll see whether that will happen here. next, a push to with hold pay from congress. i know you think that means they're going to get paid zero. and president obama's approval rating has taken a surprise hit. we know why and a couple of millions of dollars. the reason for this, their child was born for down syndrome. what does this mean for other parents?
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today's congress, least productive and popular in recent history. what would it take to turn it around? what about if they don't get anything done, they don't get paid. this would really be a problem, i think, because it's been more than 1,000 days since the last joint budget resolution. if they say you don't get paid, that's a heck of a lot of days with no pay. all right. this is one of the potential reforms appearing this wednesday that might really turn the tides. going to be at that hearing and has a preview for us tonight. john, more than 1,000 days since the last budget resolution. no budget, no pay.
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maybe budget, no pay. maybe they'll get one day. >> you don't pass a budget, don't get paid on time. the incentive that it might take the focus of congress to start doing their job. that's one of the prosales -- that we've seen in congress. >> and the average salary on capitol hill, $174,000. this is a lot of money. >> absolutely. and you need to change the incentive structure. the system in congress is all screwed up. this is one way to get it right. >> i would love, that's a really great idea. filibuster reform. 100 used in the past two years. it's safe to say that would be a high increase from history. >> it would. this might blow your mind. the filibuster was used 35 times, so we have seen an expo nen shl increase. remember the movie mr. smith goes to washington?
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jimmy stewart trying to get people's attention? now, it's just a routine maneuver. it's done every day, so what you do is just a rules change. you want to filibuster something, you do it on the floor. >> i like that one, too, john. what about this. up or down vote for presidential appointees. just hold up the other guy's. we needed a full fed and i think that was unpatriotic. did that change? >> this is part of the senate's advise and consent. it's a basic rule. it's gotten worse every single congress since reagan. we've got over 200 federal appointments unfilled. the fed, the treasury. 90 days to vet a nominee and if you don't get it done, the guy should be automatically confirmed. that would be up or down 90 days. >> these three things, the the
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way you present they had, makes much more sense. so, will it happen? >> well, if congress starts feeling the pressure. if they want their approval ratings to improve, they need to start taking action. these are by a group called no labels, which i helped to cofound in december 2010. no budget, no pay. 40 cosponsors from 26 different states, so that's a step in the right direction. the other two are just rules reforms. if you're frustrated, congressmen need to start hearing from their constituent to take action. >> that's wh we're going to do here. john is going to be at the hearing. last week, we told you despite the good jobs numbers, there were still economic pitfalls the president had to focus on and tonight, it happened quickly. there are some signs that president obama is also falling on some of them. a new cbs poll out just a couple of moments ago, 41%.
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ar cording to cbs's poll, that's the lowest ever. and a second shows 50% of people strongly disapprove of how the president is handling the economy. that's a 9% jump in just one month. you say well wait a minute, employment is getting better. that's true. inflation for regular things we need to buy getting worse. wages haven't been going up and gas prices, obviously the biggest sign of inflation. a gallon of gas now $3.80. all right, great to see all of you. jamal, let me give you the first chance to respond. the cbs poll saying the highest disapproval rating ever, but also, this economic poll has got to be frustrating for the president, isn't it? he's been seeing jobs created. >> it's got to be very frustrating. the economy is starting to pick up. people in other pops are showing they feel somewhat better.
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these polls are a little bit mixed. if you look at, there was a "wall street journal" poll last week that showed something different. the numbers i watch are two in particular instances. where women and latinos are with the president. if you look at those two numbers, they have predicted the last two presidents to get elected. george bush in 2004, he only lost women by 3 percentage points and john mccain lost women by 13 percentage points, so the p president has to watch that number. >> he is courting women aggressively. i know that and that sort of comes out a little strange, but i think everyone knows what i mean. but price of gas, interesting now, i.e., inflation. not just gas. milk, orange juice, everything. >> you have a weaker dollar and that seems to be the price of gas seems to be higher relative to your paycheck.
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an average family of fourearn ing $50,000, they're spending about $8,000 driving. now, that $8,000, when the gas price goes up significantly, that takes out a really, really big chunk. that's bigger than taxes for that $50,000 household. that's bigger than medical expenditures, so i think it's pretty understandable why that would have an impact on people's broad perceptions o the economy. >> john and i were talking about this poll from cbs, an overall disapproval rating. is it possible some of that islinged to an area that has been strong to the president, which is foreign policy? >> it's possible. that's been one of the president's strongest suits. but in a sense of storm clouds are on the horizon in iran, payinging at the pump, they're feeling anxiety, that can translate. we need to see a broader poll. >> certainly out of afghanistan,
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just adds to a sense of what are we doing and what's our plan. jamal, another number i know you look at, which is non college educated whites in the polls. why is that so important to you and what do you see there for the president? >> again, the president has never done particularly well with this group of voters. in the 2008 primaries, he lost a lot of those voters to senator clinton and again versus john mccain, those weren't the best voters for him. but again, it's this number of women in particular that really matter for him and he's got to really pay attention to that. he may not be able to make up a lot of ground when it comes to non educated white men, but with women, he can. i think when you saw some of this around contraception and other battles that have been going on, there are a lot of polls, an ap poll, "washington journal" poll, that show he has been making up ground when it comes to women.
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>> tomorrow, talk about making up ground. who knows how it's going to go out, but mitt romney has pulled a hell of a comeback in mississippi and alabama. he was trailing, and now, it's one or two. >> and newt as well. we're seeing the prospect of newt pulling a triple lazarus. >> i think mitt romney's found his voice. huge upset. >> sure? states in the deep south. >> i like that. triple lazarus and biblical hat trick. and now to a story that has rocked the medical world and created a fire storm around prenatal testing. a couple was awarding $2.9 million after their daughter was unexpectedly born with down syndrome. they were expecting their third
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child in 2008. now, because of her age, she did prenatal tests and was told she was having a healthy baby, but learned she had abnormalities. they sued legacy health center for botching the test and said they would have aborted the pregnancy if they knew their child had down syndrome. >> i think the jury was asked to consider was this medical procedure done negligently and if it was, what are the financial consequences. they love this little girl dearly. they have an extended family that provides help every day for this little girl. >> paul cowen is with us. criminal defense attorney and their daughter is now four, so there is something strange to hear about this. she's 4. they would aborted, but there are fewer than ten wrongful death cases -- sets an incredible precedent?
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>> american courts have been very hostile to this theory that if there's a birth of a disabled child, you should get compensation if the doctor made some kind of a mistake in prenatal diagnosis of the fetus. if this sets the precedence that other courts follow, you could have doctor's premiums skyrocket ing now as a result of the increased cost. it's an important precedent, but we've seen this coming in courts around the country. the only thing i wanted to say, people would say, gee, why haven't courts done this in the past? well they haven't because it was sort of thought that the birth of a baby, disabled, nondisabled, down syndrome, normal, is a blessing and where do the courts get off saying these people should get extra money because they have a down syndrome child, so the courts
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have been hostile to this theory, but that's changing now. >> and obviously, we are seeing more and more older women have children. that's been a big trend, so is that something that's going to play into this? these tests, even when conducted correctly, in this case, used the mother's genetic material. are not 100%. >> you're absolutely correct and you see the courts following sew sital trends. 35, 40 years ago, women were in their early 20s. now, they're waiting until their late 30s, 40s. now they're seeing if the doctor makes the mistake, he's going to have to pay for it, so they're going to be a lot more careful and i'm betting they're going to cost a lot more money. >> doctor's insurance goes up, it always seems to go up and that's health care costs. thank you very much. everyone, let us know what you think about this issue on
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the "outfront 5" and first, new details about the u.s. army staff sergeant accused of killing 16 civilians. 38 years old and was diagnosed with traumatic brain injury after a vehicle rollover incident in iraq in 2010. he was treated for that and found fit for duty. we reached out to dr. gupta who said he's skeptical the injury could cause the suspect to go on a shooting spree. at this time, it is unclear if the suspect was suffering from ptsd or not. two, the defense rested today in the rutgers case. dharun ravi did not take the stand. he is accused of placing a web cam in his dorm room to spy on tyler clementi and humiliate him. clementi committed suicide. closing arguments are going to be begin tomorrow and the jury will then see the case. three, jerry sandusky's defense
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attorney said he could file a motion to dismiss. sarah gannon was in court today and says both sides argued over how much information should be released. decision is expected soon. the former coach facing 52 charges related to the sexual abuse of ten boys. number two, the ford tar raus at the center of an investigation. 14 delivers claimed their cars unexpectingly sped up. investigation focuses on 360,000 from 2005 to 2006. might want to give toyota a call. it's been 221 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? it puts us on pace for a deficit of a trillion dollars plus by the end of the year. that's not going to help us get back to aaa, but here's a sign
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of hope. canada lost its aaa and they got it back. a documentary about a ugand warlord is now officially the most viral video ever. it's a 29-minute film about the leader of the lord's resistance army. the critics say it is partially untrue. much of the video focus on a young boy. snatched by the army when he was 12 years old. today, david mckenzie tracked him down. he's in his early 20s and credits the film makers for saving his life. >> because if i'm to say, that would mean that i would be here, like right now, we have moved, be able to go to school. you won't be able to talk to me. i had no hope.
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>> miguel marquez is following the story and this video, just truly, on a video that is not short. >> it really took off. it's the fastest growing video reviews online. it beat out six days, 150 million views. beat out justin bieber's "baby." it's incredible. it is a 30-minute video. it's sensitive, a difficult subject to watch. it's emotional. that young man, jacob, david mckenzie tracked him down north of the capital of uganda. and spoke to -- jacob spoke to the film maker in 2003 and it's that heart and soul he gives it. here's a little of that video this young man talked about in 2003. >> he told me more about his
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brother and what he would say to him if he were still alive. >> i love you, i miss you, so it is better when we -- we are not going to meet, but we may meet in heaven. so, it is better, start something because you assume by brother once again. >> this is powerful. obviously. it's hard to watch, but it's engrossing. there's a lot of critics who say it didn't tell the fair story. uganda government called me this weekend saying we've been fighting kony for years, we're not harboring this guy. >> he's not in uganda and hasn't been for many years. there's been a very tough campaign that the government has engaged in over the years.
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two things that the invisible children, the dproup that put this together, they came under fire for the facts and their finances. today, their ceo came out swinging, telling what he thought of some of those critics. >> all you see is the 29-minute movie and then try to go to our website and it doesn't exist because the traffic crashed it, so you're in the seeing information on our programs and understanding that it's been going on for a long time. i understand why people are wondering, is this some fly by the night thing when actually, t not at all. >> he claims their books have been opened up online. that they are independently verified and that 80 to 85% of their money goes to programs in the field. >> so, what about jacob? he was at time, the boy in this video.
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is he aware he's a global sensation? this could be something that truly transforms the person's life. >> he is. here's a couple of reasons. going to law school now, david mckenzie found out. he's in this little town, way up north in uganda and he knows that this is going on. he knows that he's this global sensation, he's a very humble guy, but does not like to even watch the 2012 video because it brings up too many painful memories. >> thank you very much. next, a woman flees an arranged marriage and now, she's still living in fear of her life. she comes "outfront" to tell her story. massacre in syria. women and children in syria burned today. ncer ] this is lawn ranger -- eden prairie, minnesota. in here, the landscaping business grows with snow. to keep big winter jobs on track,
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we do this at the same time every night, our outer circle, where we reach out to sources around the world. we begin in syria where it is reported that at least 45 women and children were stabbed and burned to death in homs. it's just terrible to even say that. the slaughter took place hours
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after special envoy met with al assad to try to negotiate a keys fire. arwa damon is following the story and i asked her how much worse the situation's gotten. >> reporter: it's hard to imagine the situation getting any worse. opposition activists are saying that government forces and pro government thugs entered the neighborhood and rounded up a number of sunni families. they separate the men from the women. the men were tortured for about two hours. many of these images are just too disturbing to broadcast. the children, some had their throats slit. there are also reports that the women were raped before they were killed. the government is blaming this on armed terrorists gangs, saying they carried out this massacre and are broadcasting the images to try to instigate more action against the syrian regime. >> arwa, thank you.
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horrific, horrific images. anderson?
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tell us in your words what happened to you. >> i was born in pakistan, 1982. i migrated to austria when i was 10 years old with my family. i have two brothers and a sister. my family didn't want me to adjust to austrian culture, because the rest -- but i did love my jeans, my classmates and i couldn't imagine why these people were bad people, you know. because my father's view, they were infidels and i did not even drink in the same glass of water when they touched it before, you know. so i was raised in that kind of circle and then was 16 years old, i went to pakistan on holiday with my parents and they forced me to marry my cousin over there. then i refused the marriage. they left me behind in pakistan and say we won't come back until you marry him, so i was
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sentenced to a -- to set me straight so that i break up all the western attitudes and follow the examples of traditional pakistani woman and i came back because i had been -- >> what gave you that, at that moment, that courage to literally run away? you've been living, you've been living an assumed identity. what gave you the courage to run? >> actually, it's my faith today. i have converted from islam to christianity and it's my whole ma turuation. my new faith tells me to love and love reaches out to other people and this is what i'm doing today. i know what a girl has to suffer when she loses everything and when the people who she loves the most are the one persecuting her and you have to imagine, we grew up in very sheltered backgrounds and then we have
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this separation where we do not know how to actually live a life without your family's support. and that's in my situation, people have never heard from forced marriage when i e reached out to social services and it made it very hard for me to actually get help from this social workers and policemen and so on. and that's why it's so important to actually educate the society about this issue because it's an issue that is everywhere. it's in the u.s. as well. we have a lot of forced marriage cases in america. >> we were looking at some of those numbers today. 3,000 at least and those are people who admit. to your point, a lot of women don't admit. it seems to me sort of akin to domestic violence and sometimes, these fathers will follow the daughters and show up. do you know this girl? they keep looking and looking. >> yes, the difference between dmosic violence and -- violence,
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the western society, the man is the abuser and everybody sees the man as abuser. while in my community, the woman is the one who everybody say is the one who is committing the crime because she has shamed the society, so people are not against a woman who is the abuser, but against the woman, so they condemn the women for being like that and not the man. that's the huge difference between domestic violence. >> and i know that you spend your life now trying to help other people. tell me about your organization and then also about your life. have you, what's your life like now in terms of have you married, moved on? >> yeah, my organization, we help women to escape from forced marriage. we find them shelters and even families where they can stay because mostly, this is what they miss. they are mostly families and try to find them a new family and we
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give them legal advice. we also reach out to politicians in germany and this is where i live today and educate the society about the issue of forced marriage and today, i have police protection in germany since 2006 and i don't go to any public speeches without police protection. just because of the danger and also because i'm rescuing these girls. you have to imagine that these people are after these girls and me as a convert of islam who have left the faith, i'm even more in danger through that as well, you know, so yeah, i have police protection since 2006. >> thank you so much for telling your story. i'm sure a will the of your viewers will have a lot to say on twitter. please let us know what you think. thank you. soldier says superiors made it difficult for him to get treatment for his ptsz. the ncaa tournament starts
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