tied for number one. probably with about a million other people. but i'm tied for number one. since that probably will be a brief window of about 30 seconds where that happens, i thought i would celebrate tonight. right now i'm rooting for california and vermont. we will see who will win. if they both do, that's four for four and my ep, will serat, beat that. do not adjust your set, i'm donny deutsch. tonight, i'll filling in for piers morgan. >> remember, donny, i'm the heart throb around here, and stay out of my office, yeah? >> all right, i got it. tonight, we got a great show. michael j. fox is sheer and he's going to talk to us about what it's like to be on the receiving end of a rush limbaugh attack and the cure for parkinson. >> and meredith vieira is here. >> i want to talk to you about exactly why you walked out, what may have been the best job on tv news? >> we're going to talk about the lauer guy, and her husband is

here, and we're going to talk about living with ms, and only in america. best hairdo. we're starting right now. >> good evening. i'm donny deutsch. the big story tonight, i'm guest hosting for piers while he's on assignment. my interview with michael j. fox, plus, meredith fevieira. what she thinks about a gop war on women, and what she thinks about this dnc video. >> planned parenthood, going to get rid of that. planned parenthood, going to get rid of that. we're going to get rid of that. >> first up, michael j. fox, how are you, sir?

>> nice to see you. >> how are you fealting? >> doing great. it's a beautiful day outside, and that actually helps me. and i do better when the weather is good. and i feel great. >> you know, when you see mikem j. fox and hear parkinson's. take me through a day, what is bad about the day. we see you on camera, as a crew seder. you go home, have you kids, your wife. take me through a day in the life, and what it is to live with parkinson's. >> the largest part of the day, 99% of the day is the same as everyone else's day. i get up in the morning and have breakfast and see my kids off to school. when tracy lets me sit in -- >> she runs the show, right? >> she's the head of the operation.

so fundamentally, the day is the same as everyone else's. my body will tell me what i'm going to have to deal with that day because it changs day to day. so some days i may get up and say this is going to be a bear. this is going oo be easy. i may be able to forestal taking medications and then i look at the day and i try to beat it out. almost like a performance, looking at a script and saying this is my script for the day. what am i going to bring to this screen, that scene, organize my energy and be most effective. and luckily, i have a lot of stuff i want to do on a day to day basis, whether it's the foundation, working or writing or doing something with my kids. so i'm really fulfilled and 20 years on, i'm doing a lot better than i ever thought i would be doing. i was given dire outlooks on how -- what i could expect to feel and experience, and limited to ten years out, that was ten years ago. so ten years on, i'm doing well.

>> you're on drugs right nuas we speak? >> i'm on all kinds of drugs. acid, lsd methamphetamine. >> i take synthetic dope mean, which is one of the things we're doing at the foundation, trying to move past that, augment it in the way, because that's been the gold standard for years. in treatment of parkinson's. but it loses effectiveness over time. and results in side effects that are pretty outrageous. kind of random movement. we want to find -- we're looking to find a better medication, and i balance it out with others.

an agonist, which is a drug that makes my brain produce its own dopamine, and another that tempers the diskinesia sidefaeths. so i'm on a constant regimen. that can vary what i'm faced with on a certain day. >> speaking of drugs, you were probably the most high-profile, the last most high-profile target of attack -- we're not even going to get into that with rush limbaugh, but 2006, you did an ad for claire mccaskill, running for senate, and wheler take a look at mr. limbaugh's reaction to the ad, as it may be. >> they say politics is local, but it's not always the case. what you do in missouri matters to millions of americans. americans like me.

>> in this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. he's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. this is the only time i have ever seen michael j. fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has. he can control himself enough to stay in the frame of the picture, and he can control himself enough to keep his eyes right on the lens, the teleprompter, but his head and shoulders are moving all over the place. this is really shameless, folks. this is really shameless of michael j. fox. either he didn't take his medication or he's acting. >> yeah, i thought that was great, he really did a good thing there. >> again, i don't want -- my tendency is to want to make jokes about it, he says remain in the frame of the picture. look at rush. remaining in the frame of the picture, but you know, that's -- when i set out to support

politicians and support stem cell research, it was the only way i could find to effectively push the scientific freedom in the country. really, we had a lot of people out of disease communities, if you will, had a stake in scientific research and in stem cells. and so to have others disagree with the majority of the people in the country supported it, and president bush eliminated funding of it. to make this point, to have people have an ethical problem with it is one thing. and that's great and we'll have a discussion about that, and that's why i entered the fray, to have a discussion about it. but to have it sum airily marked down and marginalized on he didn't like the way i delivered the message, and so his bully instinct is to shut down and marginalize that voice, that's another thing all together. >> that's a vicious bully. let's show his apology. interestingly enough, his current apology is a rasmussen

poll, cake out, less than 30% of people believe it. you have taken the high road with this. you're a guy who got entoa lot of fights as a kid. it's so -- such a level of vulgarrity there. almost equaled by calling a law student a slut. i mean, there had to be something like, you just want to go knock the guy. >> i didn't feel that way. i felt like he had done the damage to himself. in the context of our argument, our conversation, his attack on my and my systems, it wasn't something where he didn't care. i had a problem of the image of it because i thought it was offensive to my community and my parkinson's comunltd and a larger community with disabilities. it was thoughtless and rude, but for just plea, i don't care. but he said i faked it.

i didn't fake it, so he's attacking my honesty and integrity, coming from him, i didn't care. the thing with sandra fluke. i'm a husband to a wife and a father to daughters, and a son to a mother and a brother to sisters. and that was really offensive. >> i he called all daughters sluts. he got on the air, i have three daughters, you have daughters. and the advertisers now are speaking. another article in "time." a lot of dead air on the stations. this is going to hurt him, and advertisers nat are staying are voting that it's okay to say what he said. >> it's that i can yell and scream and wave my arms ironically, or whatever, about what he said. but let the free market decide. and ultimately, i love there to be voices that i don't agree with. i love for meme to say vile and intensive things bah i know who they are, and as a voter i know who they are.

and they have identified themselves and that's great. and all things in the market being equal will balance that out. there's talk about bill maher. the difference is he's on hbo and doesn't have advertisers. he was one in the public sector and made statements and advertises bailed on him and he was moved to cable. it may be offensive, but it's a different thing than this giant corporate supported bully pulpit that this man has, and he did the same thing with sandra fluke as he did with me, but it was more egregious with sandra fluke because here is a private citizen expressing an opinion she has a right to express and was sought out by people who have elected to represent a point of view of the public, and she was knocked down brutal. >> it's interesting, you're a public figure, so you can take

it. when you bully down the average citizen, that's where don imus got in trouble, and he's going to pay for it. let's shift to politics for a second. we got an election coming up. and it's interesting. we all vote, and when i vote, it's going to affect my taxes, who wins. you have a lot more at stake. let's talk about if santorum wins. you have a lot more at stake. let's talk about if santorum wins. coming off two primary wins. people are speaking. that party is connecting with him. if he gets in office, of course, he is very vociferous against stem cell research. how is your life effected? >> he has spoken out against sienls. he's spoken out against education. education in pursuit of science. so obviously, it will not be good, but on one hand, i'm kind of hoping he gets the nomination because he will be very vocal on these issues and this will be a

stark contrast, and people will see, again, i don't want to suppress ideas i don't agree with. i want all things being equal and with the vote, all things are equal, those ideas can be met and dealt with. so if he tries -- i mean, certainly if he was elected, it would be stem cell research would be shut down and all kinds of things would be shut down, all kinds of scientific research, there was a time when they were going after science, going after stem cell research and attacking all science. and someone said fruit flies, why are we spending money on flute flies. they're a major model for scientific research. many systems can be replicated in the model of the fruit fly. so you get people who don't know science railing about science, and it's dangerous. >> we're going to take a break. we'll continue talking politics. i want your scorecard on obama. we'll have more with michael j.

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new york, new york. >> alex, that's wonderful. >> yes! >> why are you congratulating him, dad? he didn't sing it that well. >> he got the job. you did get the job, didn't you? because you really didn't sing it that well. >> i got the job. >> oh, alex, great. >> thank you. i'm going to be the youngest xettic in the history. i'm going to be rich. >> we're back with michael j. fox. that was of course a younger michael j. fox on "family ties." we went to break and tracy, your wife was up there, and you looked at that and said what a beautiful woman. she's incredible. >> amazing woman. >> she's as good as it gets. alex keaton, would he still be a republican? >> i always say, he would be converted to being a democrat

now or be in jail. one or the other. >> and in trade. >> back in the days of drexel burnham. >> do you remember that? i remember seeing pictures of a young gieng. >> i look like mitt romney, notice that? >> you look good there. okay, barack obama. let's give him a scorecard. >> i'm not a politician. and i'm not a surrogate. >> but you played one on tv. >> but i think he's done reasonably well. i think it's different to be in there than to be aspiring to be in there. and i think that he inherited a big batch of problems. i don't think he's really dealt with all of them. there are things i would like to see him have dealt with. >> such as? >> i think there are some issues around -- around gitmo and privacy and other things like that, that i thought would be handled by now.

things that kind of mess around the edges that i thought would be cleaned up. and just fromideic point of view, but the economy, he's done reasonably well, and we're moving forward. i can't know what that mess was. in a way, not being a politician, i make my best bet on who i think has similar ideas as i do and similar sentiments and similar emotions and similar meanings. and so i have done that with obama and then i look at it and say, okay, let's assume he's done the best he can do and i hope he can do better. the alternative doesn't appeal to me, so i would have to say he's done a pretty good job. >> done enough for stem cells. >> he's opened up the funding. but with our foundation, you know, to me, it was -- it was about the scientific freedom. with our foundation, we funded over $285 million in research. >> other than the government,

largest. >> it's not like we're saying, fund this stuff, take case of us. we're saying, free us up. we'll fund it. just don't tell us we can't pursue the best, best research that is out there. let's play this out, a republican wins and they repeal stem cell research. what happens to parkinson's? you're the main fund-raiser for this disease in the world. >> we can't fund that. we have other avenues we're funding, other areas that we're supporting, and we work a lot with farma, and we'll fund research they're doing and we'll give like loans or grants to multibillion dollar companies so they'll continue to work on compounds that have interest to us because the pipeline is so

time consuming that we want to keep it moving. we'll continue to do that, but again, if you have people that based on idealogical reasoning can just make summary decisions about what you can pursue, i mean, it would really be dangerous for us. >> i asked you about your day to day work. as you're sitting here, are you struggling? are you aware of trying to keep your movements in check? i want to get inside you because we know you and i know you personally and you're a dear friend and such a special guy. is this a fight for you every second or you're talking like i'm talking. >> i'm talking like you're talking and i'm aware i'm moving. and i strive for comfort and ease as much as i can more than vanity and appearance. i -- it's given that i'm going to look like what i look like, and again, that goes to the rush

limbaugh thing. i mean, that's why again, i personally could care less. but knowing there's a pupulation out there that doesn't have -- is hiding from employers, that is worried about insurance based on their condition, is worried about the person down at the store, i heard a story about a guy who went to get a bottle of wine and the person wouldn't sell it to to him because he was drunk. >> you hid it at the beginning. >> yeah. >> not criticizing it, but it's something that it's not easy to come forward with. >> i hid it for seven years. so it's difficult for people to be kind of caricatures like that, was hurtful to the community. but for me, people know who i am, what i'm going through. they know the work that i do. so i don't have -- i don't feel i need to hide anything. i need to cover up anything anymore.

and so it's different for me. so when you ask how i am, it's easy for me to say, i'm fine. i feel great. i'm secure, and i have a great family, and i have friends, and i have things to do and work to do that keeps me busy, but others don't, and so that's who you work on behalf of, and that's who we have to protect in a sense, in helping them know that the best research is being done and being pursued and is open and academics that pursue certain avenues are free to do it. and not worry about it. when you say government funding and stem cell research, it wasn't that they were fighting for the government to support those projects. if they use pencils that the government paid for and couldn't do stem cell research, if there was any funding at all of the university or hospital doing stem cell research, they would lose their funding. it was a broad paintbrush. >> you have four kids. what would you say if there's a young person out there, and just

yesterday, they found out they had parkinson's. what would you say to them? >> just don't let others project obt you what you're spoernsing. experience it, learn what you can, educate yourself. don't project as to what your future will be. experience one day at a time, and leave yourself open to the possibilities and know that others can take care of you that care about you might want to future will be. experience one day at a time, and leave yourself open to the possibilities and know that others can take care of you that care about you might want to say, oh, you feel this, and i want to take care of that, and they don't know how you're feeling. and you respect them and love them for your care, don't let them characterize what you're experiencing. >> we're going to shift gears. you have walked right into your parkinson's with larry david, and you played an afflicted character with denis leary. you have used it creatively. wheler see that and talk about it when we come back. i've discovered gold.

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doc, i'm from the future. i came here in a time machine that you invented. now, i need your help to get back to the year 1985. >> mcfly. you have certainly turned the corner creatively.

i have to start with the larry david "curb your enthusiasm" where larry talked about the parkinson's. i want to talk about turning it around. >> i did noting before you left, you were looking at me and you kind of, you know, shook your head. >> yeah, my head shakes, larry. i have parkinson's. i'm a head shaking fool. >> you're saying it was a parkinson's shake. >> it wasn't a larry shake. can i get you a soda or something 1234. >> that would be great. the thing is, hitler really ruined the mustache for everybody. because it's really an interesting mustache, and now nobody could wear it, you know. oh, thanks. oh, jesus christ. what the hell? did you shake that up on

purpose? >> parkinson's. >> when larry called you, what did he say? let's do parkinson's? >> it was great, he called me up and said the show is improv, so they lay out the ideas, and you take it from there. he said he wanted to do something about we being neighbors, new neighbors, and he's thinking passk aggressive that i'm directing my condition towards him. and i thought it was so funny and so great, and he explained that other people would and to my defense and they would be off, too, and i loved that. i loved that everybody was kind of -- nobody gets it except me, which is really the thing, nobody gets it but me. and you can't expect them to, but you can have fun. in that scene, it's basically, you're going to shake up the coke, spill it on me. then you go. >> yeah. >> you know what you're doing? >> he's brilliant. and it was so great, i loved doing it. i loved turning it on its head. once you get past vanity, once you get past how you look or whatever and you see what your

life is and what you can do, you're freed up and it's great. >> you're always the nicest guy. actually, you were named the second most influential celebrity people would trust, but with rescue me, you said, i'm going to play a bad guy, a real, real sob. let's take a look. >> we're cool. >> we will be cool in about seven minutes. >> what do you mean? >> ten minutes of pleasure, seven minutes of pain. >> you're probably exaggerating. oh, my gosh, probably only a couple of minutes actually. >> don't fight it. >> i'm not fighting it. >> hey, guys. >> hey. >> can you come back in a minute, give us a minute? >> like 6:31. >> got to be more fun playing a bad guy.

>> that character, dwight, was really fun. and what was cool about him, and that thing, denis leary called me up and said, i want you to play this guy. drug addicted sex maniac. you know, jerk, alcoholic. and i said, what made you think of me? and he said, it was paralyzed. i said, you know i can't stop moving. how am i going to play a paralyzed guy? he said, you're going to be great. i chose to deal with my condition in the way that i have, but the choice i didn't make was that choice. that's a guy who lost his limbs in a car accident, drunk driver, and he kind of went through the dark side and went to the lost. and it was interesting as funny as the scene and some of the other scenes in the show was, to deal with the loss and to deal with being physically different than you thought you would be and having resentment about that, was kind of fun, interesting to explore that.

>> it's interesting to watch tom cruise and "born on the fourth of july." start out based on the character, and by the end, the character you were and a crusader. julianne margolis. huge show. >> tar dives diskinesia. it makes me do this. and this, and ahhh. >> uh-oh. >> if you look at me long enough, you get used to it. so feel free to look, and i won't mind. now, the good news is these pills, i take these every few hours and they don't make the symptoms disappear completely -- >> objection. >> i'm going to give a new title to actorvist. is that a role that's not going

to turn you on now, forget the physical challenges, is it not going to turn you on that somehow doesn't move the needle for disability or for parkinson's? >> sure, acting for me has been really fun. i've kind of amped it up in the last few years. believe it or not, with the medication, just like the character was saying there, it's much more predictable for me now, and i can know that i can maintain a proscribed course of action for a character. i know i can fill out certain beats. but it's interesting, i have to in some way acknowledge the physicality of the condition. so there's a broad umbrella of things i can use to explain it, and hopefully i can get it otof the way the same way this character did in the "good life." he's saying you're going to see this and he was using it to influence how they felt about him, but in a way, i have to do that, too. there's no doubt when i'm trying to get people to act on part of our foundation. i'm saying, i have this and it affected my point of view on this.

>> i know rush limbaugh is a big fan of the show. can you give him a shoutout, anything you want to say to him. gr keep talking, rush. keep talking. we're figuring you out. >> people can tell the camera doesn't lie. it was interesting. before i started doing tellvise, i asks you for advise, and you said, be who you are. the camera doesn't lie. you're one of the true gentleman, people can tell, but they can't tell. even you coming out, this was a special gig for me, and you coming out at night and doing this is the last thing you feel like doing, so i thank you. gr you are been a good friend and a big supporter of the foundation, and i love spending time with you and you're interesting and funny. but i still like your wife better. >> you're smart. >> coming up next, my sit-down with one of the smartest journalists in america, meredith vieira. [ male announcer ] juice drink too watery?

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we're back. i'm donny deutsch and i'm filling in for piers morgan. doing a much better job than piers morgan, not that that's hard to do.

and i'm joined by two of his favorite guests, the beautiful and wonderful meredith vieira and her husband. help me out. >> yes. >> this lauer guy, okay. >> oh, my gosh. >> they're talking about giving him like $80 trillion a year. i don't see -- he's a nice enough fellow. he reads off the prompter. i don't get it. >> i carried him for five years. >> exactly. >> idiant savant. he's the idiot. >> nice guy, you need a fourth for bridge. >> al's a nice guy. i think he has a great act. he looks good in the suits. >> the legs. something about the suits. and roker, not a nice person? people think he is, natalie morales. ann? >> ann? >> i always think the camera can tell. today's show, give he the worst interview you had. >> the worst interview i ever had.

i don't want to -- >> you were like, oh, man. >> i'm not going to say who it was. i can't. a famous movie star who is a jerk. >> no way, that's not possible. that's not even possible. >> yes. self-centered, full of him or herself. and i just sat there thinking, why where you here? i always wonder when people come on, most people are gracious. but particularly if an actor or actress sits there and doesn't deliver, i think, maybe you don't want to be here. act like you want to be here. that's your profession. act. >> i hear matt tells me when you come to the "today" show, you actually go into his dressing room, to his office, with lipstick, deface the whole thing. what is that about? and what do you write with the lipstick. >> i can't divulge what i write. he provokes it. he's a trouble maker, a practical joker. i would respond in like and write nasty things on his -- >> tell us one nasty thing. >> i can't.

it involves words that you're not allowed to say. >> let's shift gears. richard, you have m.s., diagnosed at 25. >> you do? >> yeah. >> oh, my gosh. >> you thought that was a prop, like michael j. fox, acting for limbaugh. first time they tell you, 25. what goes through your head? >> well, i didn't freak out because i knew nothing about the illness, and i sat there and i thought, i don't know enough to react. and in a funny way, i still haven't reacted. that's probably part denial. and part determination to keep going. and the chronic illness or nerve dejenerative illnesses, you have to keep going.

>> as a man, i want to just -- bear with me for a second, i over the past summer, i hurt my back. on a scale, what you're dealing with is a million, that's infinitesimal, but it threw me. i couldn't do what i normally do for the first time, and i'm not embarrassed to say i got depressed. and i think about what you deal with. you have this great attitude. i can see it. what is the key. >> there's no hierarchy of suffering. >> i think there is. you just, obviously, it's -- i don't want to say, taken over you like it hasn't, but it's become a part. it's not her, certainly. but that's like an anchor. >> she's as tough as m.s. tougher in some ways. there are no heroes. there are no medals. you know, a good life, a happy life, a successful life, a great family. a career, are their own rewards. i feel bad -- i feel bad for

people who decide to be victims. that's a horrible way to live. >> and when you met him, he already was diagnosed with m.s. >> he was 25 when he was diagnosed. >> lot of people would have been, oh. and you ran right init. >> i didn't know a lot about it, but my attitude was, i cared about the person. you can get hit by a bus tomorrow. nobody knows what is going to happen. and i -- i let my emotion gade me. and my heart guide me, and i'll never regret it. occasionally, but not usually. >> it was interesting, michael was talking about how tracy is his rock, and you're clearly richard's rock, but in some ways, it's not tougher on you, but you can't even sometimes richard can say, i'm the guy. i can feel this way. you have to be strong for him, for you. >> richard is the first to say i

don't have to be. i'm allowed to get angry when this whole situation makes me angry. i'm allowed to feel sorry for myselves at times when i do. i think that's important. when -- it's a family illness. >> your kids -- >> you have to be able to take openly about it and your own feeling in relation to illness. i think it's wrong to suppress it. >> kids take their cues from the parents. i think our kids see the way we deal with it, they see how independent i am. they see that i don't miss a day at work. they see that i don't feel sorry for myself, so why would they? >> we're going to take a break. we're going to find out the secret to 35 years of happy marriage and women, one of my favorite subjects, and politics. don't go anywhere. this is delicious okay...

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lifelock service guarantee cannot be offered to residents of new york. so what do you think? basic. at meineke i have options... like oil changes starting at $19.95. my money. my choice. my meineke. we're back with my before we get to politics, you have been married so hong? 25 years. as someone punching, giving it his best shot once, twice, give me the secret? what can you say? >> i think a sense of humor. flexibility. and the ability to walk away. >> the ability to walk away? what does that mean? >> i don't mean -- i mean walk away from bad moments. >> oh.

>> that's it. i'm out of here. >> deep. >> i have an ability to really forget stuff. sometimes i don't remember it has been as long as it has. sense of humor, a lot of it is sense of humor, communication. yeah. >> let's moven to serious stuff. >> does that help you in your own? >> no, we don't have enough time to help me. there aren't enough couches on the planet. dnc, a new ad. i want to watch it and talk about it. >> planned parenthood, going to get rid of that. planned parenthood, going to get rid of that. >> okay, richard, you're a political writer. the republicans can not win with a 20% gender gap. you see the ad, forget politics aside, what is your reaction,

getting someone elected? >> planned parenthood, for the christian right, is a symbol. and all you have to do is say those two words. you know, they remind me of sort of the american equivalent of the taliban. you know, they want to drag women back to a different point in time. and yes, there's this huge gender gap. and they're not just going to lose independents. they're going to lose republican women. >> meredith, as a journalist, as a woman, you see, and we can play hours of various candidates, various media people on the left and right and

candidates, but mostly on the right, saying women, we don't -- you know, on a mass level, that's okay. what am i missing here. they can't win this way? >> i agree with you. but they obviously appeal to a certain segment of the population, including some women who would agree with that statement. there are women who don't believe in planned parenthood, and they're speaking to them as well. but i walk a fine line because i am a journalist. i can't really give my opinion. >> it's neither a opinion of whether you're pro-choice or anti-abortion. but it's a question of strategically, i can't understand how the guys think they're going to get elected playing the staunch line. is it going to come back to bite them? >> i have never seen the republican party drag this far to the right in the primary process. and i think it's the influence of santorum. and i think people are afraid of him. and i think he has an appeal to the activists who tend to be -- the activists tend to be the pro-life people, the christian

right. >> i have to say one thing that is interesting that goes back to a theory that i have that people vote for people and not issues. i disagree with just about everything santorum stands for. >> he's a real guy. >> i like him, where as romney is up there, and that's what he's connecting with. i stand up there and i go, but i respect the guy. i disagree with everything he says, and that's what people want. >> but his story remains true. he's always true to who he is, and i thing you feel that whether you agree with him or not. >> have you ever watched a campaign, any primary campaign on either side where they just can't bite obviously, the republicans, it's a thin line, and they're not buying it. have you seen anything to this extent. >> no. have you? >> no, i don't think so, but i think the effect of santorum's success is pulling everybody in that direction. and it's suicidal. and it's not shocking that romney is pandering one more time in that direction. the question is, how are they going to find themselves back to

the general election. >> you obviously watched the michael j. fox interview. and strangely enough, the m.s. and parkinson's. i'm not saying they're competing with each other for fund-raising, but the are, and there are some schools of thought that say let's link it together and there's marketing of these things now so as >> it's frozen at about $30 billion, which pays for about 2 1/2 months in afghanistan. it's a very limited pot of munly. all these disease groups, these affinity groups go to washington asking for money. they're not going to give one group money and not give another group money. the only thing they can do is raise the -- you know, to jack up the bill. >> you look at world war i, was scientific researchers -- the

way it's reduced heart disease and strokes, yet we're not upping the budget. as you said, $30 billion. at one point, $2 trillion, is not a lot of money. we're at a scary place. >> you realize that the number of people with chronic illnesses, because of the aging baby boomers, has jumped in five years from 90 million to about 130 million people. that's half the population. >> we could talk all night. thank you for bringing meredith here. it's sweet of you coming along. and great to see you guys. and good luck. >> you're pretty good at what you do. i'll give you that. >> thank you for saying that. coming up, only in america. the bald truth about this country's presidents. tonight, only in america can a presidential candidate be judged on what is on top of their head and not in it. i'm not sure exactly what happened here last night.

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tonight, only in america can a presidential candidate be judged on what is on top of their head and not in it. if the past 50 years are any indication, the pest hair wins. let's bring out the highlights, 1960, ken aetd, a no-brainer over nixon's widow's peak. ronald reagan, a palmdore for the ages, landslide. clinton/dole, enough said. 2008, barack obama breaks tradition and makes history as the country's first african-american president, but has best hair over mccain. who is best to beat obama? let's look at romney and santorum. santorum, although sporting impressive locks is showing

shows no recesssive traits whatsoever, romney, the winner. now romney/obama. two follicle heavyweights. at this point, almost too close to call, but come november, i believe it will be obama by a hair. but that's only in america. beyond the borders, the bald truth is that other countries don't follow our lead russia auptded for mikheil gorbachev, and you could have put the kremlin on top of that dome. i got it, and the founding fathers wore wigs, but in this america, bald may be beautiful, but it probably will not get you elected.