their lives and to inflame every debate by calling it a war diminishes the service of our soldiers and distorts the truth. we should have great debates. they fuel our democracy. let's be honest and try to be fair. accusing the other side is nothing more than fear mongering. thank you for joining us tonight. we hope you have >> tonight all american action hero steve segal and the trayvon martin case. >> if it started an altercation, i would arrest him. >> standing his own ground. >> plus jessica alba from washington is turning heads. >> i feel lucky and fortunate i am given the opportunity to do this for a living. >> and still holding on after more than 20 years.

connie wilson and wendy wilson and china phillips on life, love, and getting the band back together. wilson phillips and this is "piers morgan tonight". good evening. wilson phillips in a moment. first we will hear after steven segal. he takes on the trayvon martin tragedy and not holding back. we talked to the ceo, jessica alba about movies, motherhood and the choices he is making to keep america great. >> you can invest in health care and education. at the end of the day how can any society drive if they are not healthy and educated? they won't be able to compete in the world. >> he is not just an action movie star and as a reserved deputy chief. they keep america great and let's talk about the young black

teenager killed in the street, unarmed under a law that at the moment protected the guy that killed him. it's called stand your ground. you are a tough guy. you toad your ground with the pest of them. what do you think about this case? >> i don't have all the details and i have been a police officer over 20 years and investigated murders and all different crimes. imaginally i was told this was a situation where the guys were a neighborhood watch person who saw something who was shadey and suspicious. he said do not follow them, leave them alone. they will continue to follow them and came up on the porch and started an altercation. i am now told none of that is true. if you can me what really happened, i will give you my opinion. >> my opinion is he should be arrested the legal process should start.

>> for they did that, they would be on suspension and possibly in jail. >> this issue of stand your ground, florida is one of the states out of at least 20 and florida is the most generalized with the explosion useing it to get off. what do you think about the right to defend yourself in tough movies? >> not to say they should defy common sense by avoiding or diffusing confrontation. that is very, very important. somebody calls me any name they want to and talk about my mama, i am sorry you feel that way. if he starts swinging at me or pulls out a weapon, stuff will

change right away. you have to understand that. this law doesn't say you should look for the altercations and what it should say is you would do anything and everything you can to avoid confrontation, however as a last resort, if you are really in fear, that's the spirit of that law. >> let's talk movies. >> i got tired of coming up with desperate solutions to problems by other people. >> all of the ridiculous and pitiful antics. we were puppets in the same sick play. we served the same master. he's a lunatic and ungrateful. >> under siege and an action film that goes to $160 million worldwide. a superstar.

you have one right like that. do you care? is that enough for a movie star? i am satisfied. i got a lot in it. i can a lot more stories and got willing, i will get the chance to do that. >> what do you think of your country? what do you make of what's happening to america? >> one of the biggest problems that we have right now is border security. i think that it seems that there certain administrations who are thinking they may like to have open borders and therefore a lot of what's going on in my opinion is underpublicized. well over 50,000 people have been killed in the border war in the past. more than afghanistan and iraq put together.

he's a great sheriff and a great man and what's happening is not at all racial. not an immigration problem and it's a matter of national security. our borders need to be check and monitored. i think that -- >> what do you want to be president come november? >> to be honest i'm on the fence because even the people opposing obama are not necessarily brilliant in my opinion. right now in my opinion when you have them coming and recruiting children off the playground, they are recruiting people who no longer have the tattoos and criminal records, they are people that will be undetectible to come and work for them and you have them with their -- they have been established all over the united states of america.

i would like to bring a panel in and the great experts on what's happening on the boarder and let them tell you. >> it will be a problem with the debate. anybody that argues in the way you are gets labeled racist and so on. it's a different debate. >> in maricopa county, if somebody commits a crime, you get the high warrant risk for murder and we go after the people, when you arrest somebody, we don't care if they are chinese, japanese, korean, mexican, french or italian. if you submit a crime, they arrest you. >> your new project is true justice and starts on march 30th on the reelz channel. >> i wanted a situation where i could do a show based on things that i have seen and my friends

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>> brides maids and that's hold on. wilson phillips at the end of the film. 620% increase in sales and 20 years later, wilson phillips are reunited with a new album and joining me now is connie wilson. welcome, ladies. >> thank you. >> it is 19 years since i last intrude you for a british newspaper and you don't look a

day older. i however do. are you all still friends or is it for show? do you beat each other up? >> nothing could ever come between our friendship. >> is it a rocky path? >> the friendship? >> there have been times where the three of us have been -- we disbanded for a while and there were times where everyone is speaking and there have been rough patches and three of us learned a lost lessons. >> communication, communication. >> and acceptance that we are all different people and have different personalities. >> we are feisty. >> we can be. >> and respect for each other. >> and our differences. >> we fight when we are tired and when we are stressed. it's like if you are home. when do you fight? >> when you are tired and stressed.

>> the touring and records and all that thing and the press and demands and the pressure, it is mentally and physically exhausting. >> i can imagine you reach a point where you don't want to be in the same room. >> you want to stick needles in your eyes. >> you are so done and baked and can't imagine doing one more interview and one more day. >> you cannot hold on for one more day. >> when i saw you in the early 90s, i can see it in your eyes, you were done. if we have to do one more, i spoke with many artists. it's relentless when you have a big hit and you celebrate. everyone thinks it's glamorous. >> your management and your record company is managing you. that's a conflict of interest and drove us into the ground. nobody was looking out for us. >> we are in our early 40s and

we have nine children between us. we come from a gratitude of space. we feel like we are lucky to be here doing this. why fight about different things. celebrate it. they are fantastic. it's the sort of thing you dream of. hundreds of millions of people watching you perform. >> it's exciting. >> a huge blessing for us. we had no idea about the story line and we took a chance and did a cameo and what a great result we got. >> amazing. it gave you a new lease on life. >> i feel like it has in a way. >> for opened a ton of doors and put us back on the map. we definitely feel like we have our road cut out for us and making more records and writing songs and touring.

just because you were in a hit movie is not going to guarantee that success. >> the point is the kind of role model element, did you have anything like whoa, for your kids maybe. >> i did not want my kids seeing that. that was not going to happen. >> the first scene when she was on top of him, out you go. that was it. they didn't see the rest. we walked out on stage. it's not for children i don't think. >> i think two of my sons found it and i found it disturbing that this was the destruction to the female form. >> it's edgy "saturday night live." edgy anything goes to women who do what they want and have that edge. i don't know. >> the second time around when you have all this success again, people said to me it's a lot sweeter. when you stop it and it all good

away and you enjoy all the highs, you miss it even as being painful a lot of time, a part of you misses it. is it night to recapture it. >> recapturing it has been a lot of fun and we never even dreamed it could be this good the second time around. i never thought we would sing this good again. we are back together, i'm surprised. >> how did it feel? >> what would that be like? >> the first couple shows. we would look at each other and we couldn't. we would start tearing up. >> really? >> yeah. >> we sound the same. the same in our sleep.

>> everybody knows the background it hasn't been an easy path. we will have a short break and explore this album. you dedicated this to our mamas and papas who are with us and not with us and we want you to know how much these hongs mean to us. we are retracing the magic of our parents. it has been a tough journey and let's come back and talk about that. this seems redemptive. c'mon dad! i'm here to unleash my inner cowboy. instead i got heartburn. [ horse neighs ] hold up partner. prilosec isn't for fast relief. try alka-seltzer. it kills heartburn fast. yeehaw!

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obviously it's disappointing, but it is what it is and you are letting a lot of people down. >> we will just reschedule. of course you are not going to be upset. if carney can't do new orleans, there is nothing i can do. >> a battle with wilson phillips and still holding on. a new health show on the guide network. you are holding on in many ways. you are wasting away.

you are disappearing before my eyes. >> she said you lost weight from the beginning to the end of the day. >> you have been up and down like a yo-yo. >> for about two years, i let go of my focus on my health. >> i wasn't feeling good and i was getting scared of what it said on the scale and how it felt. i needed more intervention and never ashamed to talk about it and admit that i need help. i had a lap band put on and it helps me feel full and these two can tell you how i made these

changes and my choices and habits are getting so much better. i am eating no sugar and no white flour and planning my meals and going for the long haul. i am working on the inside and the outside. it has been 13 years and i had children and a lot of spiritual growth they think will help me to maintain this forever. that's the goal. >> you said this great quote. i can't smoke and have a glass of wine. i struggled since i have been sober. that is an honest thing to say. >> the way i can be obsessive with things. for a few years, i got into a bad rut. if i want to have children and a family and live a long life, i better make changes.

that's what comes down to mental health. i don't feel good when i'm stuffing it down with something. we all try to have something and that's a challenge that has to come from inside of me. >> we eat for a reason. people do those types of things and it's for a reason. there is an unconscious reason for that behavior. you have nine kids between you now. famously you come from famous parents. we know that. your kids will be the product of that. how will deal with that scenario and that issue? how will you avoid the traps?

>> we will have to put them into the press and make sure. >> i honestly think -- we need to keep them ground and down to earth. not let them have an inflated sense of self because of their family history. embrace their talents and if that is going to the music industry, great. i will support that. >> how is your relationship with your father? >> strain at the moment. there is peace there. >> is there a relationship? >> somewhat of a relationship. i wish it was more of a relationship. >> how would you describe it? >> shattered? >> no. god. sensitive. there is a connection always.

compare it to years ago. we heardly ever saw him and his life has changed so much. he is always traveling. the times we do connect is during the holidays. our music we are playing for him and he is playing his music and he said i love you so much. you know how beautiful you are. that's all a girl wants it hear. >> do you feel like he's your dat or is he a disjointed friend you have got. >> he's not a father figure, but he is our dad. of course he's our dad. he's our blood.

>> when i see the pride in his eyes and i see how proud he is and he has been able to express that to us, that's good enough. he's never been the hands on father and he knows that and we know that. that's part of the growth and acceptance of who we are as people. they have given a gift to wendy and me and that's a healthy way of looking at it. people are not going to change. >> this is pertinent. ♪ >> it's perfect timing. it makes me feel emotional. we just had a little baby girl ask and when you read the

lyrics, it's heart breaking stuff. >> a girl wants her father's attention and approval. >> we're wrote that song when he was involved with a doctor that had control of his life. they had them under the reigns and we didn't get to spend time with them at all. it wasn't our way of reaching out to them and the classic was his response to that. how do you like that song? >> you either really love me or i'm just a piece of meat. he's so funny. >> is he a grandfather? >> i want him to spend more time with his grandchildren. he has five children at home and

dogs and when we are together, he is with them and he kisses them. that's all we have got and i want it to be more. >> better than it was, but a work in progress. >> china, you are part of the seen. what is it like being with all those? >> they are hot. >> hysterical. >> she quite funny. >> try going to dinner with alex and billy and steven and daniel, you will be doubled over in pain. >> i can believe that. is he is leader of the pack? >> he's the oldest and he thinks

he knows what's right and the best thing to do. sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong. he's a fantastic guy and generous and loving. a great brother. a good guy. >> this is a really heart warming testimony to the baldwin clan. now downsides? >> several. they have a temper and their egos can be inflated. >> no! >> a little bit. that's human. we are all a little bit inflated from time to time. i am not pointing fingers. >> given that you guys had to spend your lives surrounded by fame, what is your view? it changes your perspective on life. what have you learned about fame? you can be construct about fame.

>> it's really basically like the enemy. the minute you start to believe you are fame us is when you have real trouble and big problems emotionally. suddenly you can start to feel entitled and start to feel like this is what life is all about. this is as good as your last. it's evil and feeds itself. it's just a bad word. i would rather have that. >> maybe you have to learn. >> maybe when it first happened. >> i think it's an illusion and it's real and people want to believe it's real. it makes them feel better and want to connect to something. >> it's a terrific album. i love the fact that you can celebrate the great songs in the history of america. you can do it now without the

pain you would have to do a few years ago. >> thank you so much. >> i'm still holding on airs sundays and it's out now. here it is. chynna phillips shlgs wendy. >> jessica alba is next. [ male announcer ] that. right there -- reminds you why you fell in love with her in the first place. and why you still feel the same. but your erectile dysfunction -- that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, seek immediate medical help

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i thought there is a huge social injustice that you have to make a certain amount of money to give your family a healthier and safer. >> i know absolutely nothing about it. what i like about it is you do everything online and you are in there mixing it up with the staff and on occasion taking calls from customers, is that right? >> i have a desk and i have certainly taken a few customer service calls. >> this is the biggest i have ever heard. what are the chances they are going to go straight to the new jessica alba? >> i'm there. >> this is a brilliant tool. >> something i create and i am passionate about. as a parent, if you have a question or a concern, it's something i can be helpful or useful on.

i'm absolutely there for them. >> how has being a mother changed you? you went through the early 2000s being a goddess and win every poll. i know that inside you, there was a -- an ongoing dilemma you were wrestling with. it was great business and great for the old brand, but what you wanted to be was a bright actress and a great mother. how have you been dealing with this as you moved into child number two? i feel fortunate that i am able to do this for a living and afforded a platform where i can create this company and get amazing partners and surround myself with the experts that i

wouldn't be able to do if i didn't have the exposure the way i did early in my career. i am very grateful for that. i'm more mature now and it would be nice. i have actually since i had my kids, i have taken a different approach to my career. i am not always going after the big paycheck like i used to. it was more about commerce and being relevant and all of that. now it's just about working with them who are exciting and i want tube pushed creatively. whether it's a big or small movie, i don't care. it's a different thing. >> let's take a break and talk about the new jessica alba. i like the sound about this.

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>> those were the days. sin city. you have done 20 films and grossed over a billion dollars. pretty incredible. a billion dollars. >> it's nuts. i have been very lucky. very fortunate. >> where do you put this down. it can't just be luck. you are hardworking and how much do you get from your parents. >> my parents. they always instilled -- an incredible sense of -- like a go get em, go for it, anything is

possible attitude. giving 200% was mandatory. you always finished everything you start and so i think just the work ethic. always staying very humble and respecting your elders. >> you have been in the business which was fickle and it creates paranoia and insecurity. it can be corrupting. you enjoy it. how do you keep on the straight and narrow. >> after my kids get a college education, i will support them whatever they want to do for sure. the more life experience you have, the better you are going to be in any art that you choose to do. acting being one of them, if you can imagine yourself doing

anything else, it's tough. it's tough on your spirit and physically the days are very long. and people only see the glamorous side of it, it's like 1%. most of the time, it's a real job. it's a dream. it's amazing. it's creative. but it -- >> it's hard work. >> it is hard work, actually. yeah. >> what do you think of what's happening in america now, particularly economically and politically. a big election coming. you have 8.8% of americans unemployed. a lot of people suffering. what do you make of what's happening to america? >> i mean, the fact that our

middle class is kind of going away completely and you're either like very rich or very poor. that's a huge problem. i think that so many things just need to change. um, i believe in capitalism for sure. that's what we are in this country. that's what we're founded on. but i also believe that social services gets such a bad rap in this country and we need to take care of our people. and so if there's a way to kind of combine those two ideas that would be great. i feel like most people are kind of living in the middle now. they're, you know -- they're not completely conservative and they're not completely liberal. >> the problem is anyone that takes part in social caring is branded a socialist. >> yeah. >> they're different things. >> it is different. >> you can care about people in

a social way. >> and you can also -- >> without being a socialist. >> and you can invest in health care and you can invest in education which at the end of the day how can any society thrive if they're not healthy and if they're not educated? they won't be able to compete in the world. and we now live in really a global -- it's a global economy. it's not just, you know, our country and we're, you know, isolated from the rest of the world. and so -- >> would you be voting for obama? >> um, i -- i'd rather keep that private for right now. >> i don't have you down as a romney or santorum? >> i'm definitely not one of those -- one of those girls. definitely not. without a doubt. hands down, definitely not. >> so it's either nothing or obama? >> no, i'm going to vote. i think it's actually irresponsible to not exercise your right to vote. so yes, i probably most definitely will be voting.

on that side. but then again, you know, it's not like i completely and totally agree with everything that goes on. i think you know, there is a lot of room for improvement and i think that the more that we as citizens get behind issues that we care about and we vote on them and we put pressure on our politicians then -- >> you have been up there to d.c. >> i have. >> the view from outside of washington they don't get it, they don't get. >> you know what they get? they get votes. that if you care about something and if that means they'll get re-elected, and by voting on the side of the people, they'll definitely listen up. and so that's something that i feel like a lot of americans don't know that they actually do have that power. and it is very, very powerful. i went -- i have gone to d.c. a few times advocating for

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