zone and allows them to note only be funny but to be themselves. so you find out a little bit more about them in a personal way, which is great. >> chaps, a great pleasure. i love the documentary. i recommend everyone to watch it. >> thanks, piers. >> steve carell and dave steinberg. stand by. >> i'm don lemon. wait till you see what we're working on for you tonight. cnn after dark, where most shows dare not go. >> the reason that trayvon martin is dead is not because he was black or because he wore a hoody. he decided to smack somebody in their face and break their nose. >> the case that has just about everyone seeing color. black, white, and every shade in between. when it comes to murder in america, does color really matter? i would just like some jus fis for my husband. >> her husband, shot 28 times by

police. get this -- he's a former cop who survived. now he says he's being railroaded by a blue wall of silence. high paid bounty hunter in fancy nfl uniforms? a cash for hits program encouraged by the coach. what were the new orleans saints thinking? they wanted to win? >> governor mitt romney. >> don't they make a handsome pair? the budding bromance between mitt and paul. is rom-ryan the gop ticket? the delicate dance of courting a vp. first, the news you need to know right now. in tulsa, oklahoma, three people are dead, two seriously wounded but expected to survive after a series of shootings that began friday morning. the killer is expected to be a white male, all the victims are black. but police are not currently

calling this racially vo lly mo. this scene could have been much worse. seven people were injured, but one navy admiral calls this a miracle that no one was killed. he credits the two pilots who waited until the last minute to eject. one of them, a student pilot. a grand jury is expected to convene next week to take up the case of neighborhood watch volunteer george zimmerman. he's admitted to shooting and killing trayvon martin. zimmerman says he shot the teen in self-defense, but a grand jury may not be needed here. special prosecutor angela cory could decide to file charges on her own or delay the process if she needs more time to develop her case. more now on this story and much more. it's been 41 days since trayvon martin was shot and killed. the admitted shooter, a

neighborhood watch volunteer. >> no justice, no peace! >> so all of this has added to more than a month of outrage. protests and weeks of media coverage. we've been bombarded with images of crime scenes, conversations about shootings. gun laws. you would think from all this coverage that we're a nation overrun with crime and lawless people, just waiting to gun each other down any chance we get. and from the wall-to-wall coverage, you might think that racist trigger happy cops and other law enforcement types are just out there looking to kill black men. after all, trayvon martin is just the latest in a string of high profile cases of unarmed black men who went to an early grave at the hands of law enforcement, who eventually got off or got light sentences. 1999, unarmed, shot and killed by four nypd officers who fired 41 shots. they were acquitted. 2006, sean bell, unarmed, shot

several timed while leaving his bachelor party. 2009, oscar grant, unarmed, fatally shot in the back by officers on a subway platform in front of passengers in california. the officer was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, not second degree murder. and then the people who keep asking what about black on black crime, talk about that. what about how off black people kill white people, what about, what about. you get the picture. it is a serious subject, but the best opportunity we've seen to learn comes in the form of humor, from "the daily show." >> lately there's been a new suggestion that we shouldn't be focusing on this at all. >> nobody says a word about almost half of the murders in the united states are of black people and 90% are committed by other black people. >> national media doesn't do

stories about black on black crime. >> where is the outrage about the black on black crime. >> nobody has a march for them. >> we're joined by larry willmore. >> thank you, john. two things. one, no one has marches against black on black violence? hmmm. these are just a few from the last six months. what do you think these people are doing? do you think there's that many tyler perry movie openings? >> i think there might be. >> and number two, the difference between the trayvon martin shooting and black on black crime is that word crime. you know, that thing that people get arrested for? since the court of public opinion is the only court that will take the case, everyone feels the need to jump in and defend zimmerman. to the right, he's a victimized dudley do right. and to the left, he's elmer fudd hunting down black people.

shhh, be very quiet. i'm racially profiling negroes. here are the facts. check them out on fbi.gov. in 2011, preliminary figures show violent crime in the united states down 6.4%. that includes murders. now to doj.gov. the latest report released in 2005 shows most people are murdered by someone of the same race. 94% of black murder victims are murdered by black people. 86% of white murder victims are murdered by white people. so that brings us to the what about chorus? and the media. so the number of black on white and white on black murders are far lower, why so much outrage and focus and criticism about the media's coverage of stories like the trayvon martin case and the color of crime in this country and particularly murders?

i'm going to pose all those questions and many more to the folks who know a lot about the subject. people you see there on your screen. an expert on diversity, a comedian turned social critic, a woman whose husband was shot 28 times by police officers. the color of crime, murder suspects and victims, our subject tonight. and that's not all we're discussing. there are people calling for the head of a new orleans saints assistant coach caught on tape urging players to hurt the other team in the worst way. frank >> and -- ♪ crispy chicken, three cheeses ♪ >> it's catchy, but really, fried chicken? what's next, watermelon? is it racist?

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from the department of justice. figures from 2005. the murder victim rate was six times higher in the black community compared to the white community. in that same year, it was seven times higher for blacks than whites. this is crucial. from 1976 to 2005, 94% of black victims were murdered by black people and as we said, they're usually murdered by people of their own race, including white people. it's 84% for white people. my guests are remarkable people and i'm looking to them for their unique inside. buck davis is a diversity expert. goldie taylor, a cultural critic. she's here as much as i am. and some of the best social commentary has come from comedians, from will rogers to jon stewart to larry willborn. dean obadallah is joining us from columbus, ohio. dean and i sat on a plane a

couple weeks ago right next to each other. you've heard all those discussions, goldy. we talked about this last week. the media is doing all this coverage on the trayvon martin case. but what about black on black crime? what about white on white crime. that's not the trayvon martin story. what do you garner from the numbers and what you saw? >> the numbers are very personal to me. black on black crime hit our house in a very specific way. there isn't a man in our family older than 28 years old. so when you look towards hiv, sickle sell, stroke and murder, those men aren't there by their own choice but because someone or something took them away. my father and brother were both murdered, all of those crimes are unsolved. what i make of the coverage is

all of these are very important stories to cover. you've got so much real estate on a news cast. if you want to find black on black crime, white on white crime, tune in at 5:00, 6:00 and 10:00 every night. it gets covered every day. what isn't getting covered are the number, the sheer multitude of protests of people coming together around this country to talk about what's happening in their communities. it happened in east st. louis. it happened in philadelphia. there are dozens upon dozens of marches that happen in chicago every year. people are fighting to combat these issues in a significant way. >> you were shaking your head, because you watch the news and all you said are the mug shots. it used to be the perp walk. >> i'm really excited about the attention that white people have placed on black on black crime. last week i never heard people bring up black on black crime to this extent. i think it's an important issue. as you said, most murders in

this country occur interracially. black people are killing black foam, white people are killing white people. rich black people aren't killing rich black people. it's people who are struggling. i feel like that white folk have tossed in this black on black notion to divert the true issue of racism in this country. i feel like this conversation is so hard for us to have. it is filled with such poison in this country that we have created, that it makes the conversation almost unbearable. to the point where if i can say you people are harder on your people than our people are harder on your people, it removes me from the equation. >> interesting.

hang on, goldie. i want to bring in dean. dean, we were on the plane. we tweeted, a black man and muslim man walk onto a plane,....and it was a funny moment. but what do you make of this moment we were talking about? it's still the same thing, people are murdered by people of their own race. >> they are, but it's being brought up by conservatives to distract us from the trayvon martin story. that should be the focus right now. the facts of the case, should zimmerman be arrested? i think he should be. this is a distraction by people on the right. who i don't think care about black on black crime whatsoever. it's a distraction. same thing with rush limbaugh. the idea of attacking bill maher, saying rush is bad but

bill is just as bad. i find this despicable and i think it's a distraction by the right. >> listen, i want to say to the entire panel here, when we talk about the case about racism, when we talk about media focus, whatever, it has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of george zimmerman. no one is saying george zimmerman is guilty because we're covering this story. no one is saying he's innocent. but people have saying by the amount of coverage that in some way people are finding george zimmerman guilty. >> sure, sure. at the end of the day, if you look at the department of justice stats and you look at the african-american community, 1% to 2% of the african-american community is committing nearly half of the violent crimes in the country. and to turn around and stereotype an entire race of people, an entire culture of people because of what 1% or 2%

are out doing today, and they're being investigated and convicted, but that's a misnomer. >> stand by to my panel. great discussion. there's another layer to this discussion, though. black and blue. what do cops see first, even when it comes to one of their own, the crime or color of your skin? plus -- >> i would just like some justice for my husband. >> her husband, shot 28 times by police. get this -- he's a former cop who survived. now he says he's being railroaded by a blue wall of silence. ♪ ♪

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comments are really going crazy on twitter. i want to tell you that there is a police shooting case that's garnering a lot of attention on social media, and i'm not talking about the trayvon martin case. it's a curious case of howard morgan, a former chicago police officer, eight years on the force. during a traffic stop in 2005, members of the same department he worked for shot him 28 times after saying he pulled a weapon first. he survived and this week he was sentenced to 40 years for attempted murder and discharging a firearm at a police officer. his wife, roslyn, is here live and we'll talk to her in a moment. but first, his story from julian cruz of wgn. >> reporter: holding a picture of her husband, an emotional roslyn morgan talks to reporters. >> he's a man of god, a beautiful husband, a beautiful grandfather. >> reporter: morgan and a growing number of community leaders say it never added up,

the police account of the fierce gup battle in 2005, where investigators say morgan, a police officer with the railroad and a former chicago police officer himself, fired 17 rounds at his former comrades, wounding three officers. defense lawers pointed to 28 gunshots suffered by morgan. but a jury found him guilty of three counts of attempted murder. >> i think the jury spoke loud and clear. they did not believe this defendant's argument. this is not a conspiracy. >> reporter: morgan was acquitted on lesser charges back in 2007, in the same incident morgan supporters say that they'll appeal on the grounds that the retrial constitutes double jeopardy. >> if double jeopardy is not applied, who can double jeopardy be applied to? i would just like some justice for my husband! all these pastors and leaders

and internationally well known people around the world have been calling us and saying they don't believe it. >> reporter: morgan had been free on bond but he was taken into custody today in a tense cook county courtroom packed with police officers and morgan supporters. >> there she is, right there, howard morgan's wife, roslyn joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. before we talk about guilt or innocence, what about media coverage? why don't you think the national media -- why do you think the national media hasn't paid attention to your husband's case until now? >> i don't know why they have not paid attention to it. i believe it's a high profile case. and it seems like they want to act as though it never took place. however, it did take place. i contacted so many channels and asked them would they please view the story regarding my husband, but i got very little

or no feedback at all. >> mrs. morgan, your husband, in court, they say he pulled a weapon first and shot a police officer and he got 40 years. there are many who say hey, your husband got what he deserved. not to be shot but to be found guilty. >> i don't believe that, because my husband is not guilty. my husband would not pull a weapon. he's been a police officer for over 21 years. he loved being a police officer, to serve and protect the communities and society. now, ask yourself why would my husband, one block from our home, literally around the corner from our home in the lawndale area, pull his weapon after being a policeman for over 21 years in law enforcement? why would he just pull his weapon out and shoot three police officers? and he's a policeman himself?

that's ludicrous. i'll never believe that. and anyone that would know my husband would never believe it themself. >> we reached out to the chicago police department for a statement. we didn't get any specific response from them. you have said there are many discrepancies to this case. what do you mean by that? >> well, if they said my husband pulled his weapon, which he did not, i don't believe that. the second thing is, he was snatched out of his car, pushed down to the ground, feeling hands all over him, they took his weapon from him. so if they took his weapon from him, how could he have fired his weapon? they were surrounding him, i'm told, and 21 times in the back parts of his body, they shot him. that wasn't enough. then seven times in the front parts of his body. they shot him more times.

why would he take his weapon and fire 17 rounds of ammunition at police officers when he was a policeman himself? that's ludicrous. >> mrs. morgan -- >> there was a first trial. >> we're going to be following this particular story here on cnn and on this show, you can better believe it. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn. thank you so much. i can only imagine what you are going through. we're going to move on now. it's been very heavy here. being shot 28 times and surviving. we're going to take a pause from all the crime and violence and race in america and we're going to do it through humor. >> we're going to have a racist time-out. >> what? >> america, for the next five minutes, no matter what is said, nobody is racist. >> so listen, we're going to rip it off. we're going to try that here. cnn's version of a racism free

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okay, let's do it, let's take a racist time-out and listen to jon stewart and his senior black reporter, larry willborn. >> it seems we can't even begin to talk about this actual case because it dissolves into people with charges of racism. >> exactly. that's why we're going to have a racist time-out. >> what? >> america, for the next five minutes, no matter what is said, nobody is racist. >> a racist time-out? >> jon, focus. the point is this, if we remove

accusations of racism, we can talk calmly about the racial elements of this story. >> so there is some racism in this story? >> we have a hispanic guy with a jewish name killing a black guy, it's got to be in there. zimmermgeorge zimmerman sees a guy in a hoody. >> zimmerman follows him even though the police told him not to. that's got to be racish. >> that's just stupid. the one thing we know for sure is zimmerman killed trayvon, so the police let him go. >> so the police were racist. >> not this time. they were following the law. according to stand your ground, as long as zimmerman felt threatened, he had the right to

respond. >> so stand your ground is racist. i get it now. >> no, you don't get it. with this defense, you tell the cops at the scene of the crime you were standing your ground and they'll give you the benefit of the doubt. that's the culprit. >> ah-ha! the benefit of the doubt is racist! >> exactly, jon. >> and he goes on to say that's because black men are rarely given the benefit of the doubt. my panel is back. dean, you're the comedian here. the truth is often spoken in jest. i tweeted out when i saw that, it was brilliant. >> it was. but if you call me a terrorist or a camel jockey, i'll never forgive you. i want you to know that, don. you can call me arab and muslim. i think beall know the difference between playful and

demonizing and hateful and having a good time with each other. that's the standard we need. this war on political correctness where you can't say anything, i think we're adult enough to know the difference between someone being hateful and being playful. >> dean and i have been in this before. we traded some barbs and stereotypes of people that live and work in the south. as a southerner, i took offense. i think it really is about context. it has to be about context. look, i don't know what happened to trayvon. i don't know what happened that night. i don't know why he was stopped. i don't know for sure why the police didn't fully investigate. i don't know. i do know that a really bad thing happened and it ought to go to court. the jury just ought to sort it out. >> many people are saying remember, this is our racist free zone, dean. i can't say the words you said, like you can't say --

>> you can't, i can say anything about white people because you can't offend white people. mock the majority. there's no term that has a stigma. if you call me a sand n, i'm going to be upset with you. >> you can say the camel thing and then you say sand. but as a black person, i can say nigger. i can say that word. but someone else says that word, we can't do that. >> i can't say honky or cracker or any of those other things but i have white friends who can say them and use them in jest or use them, i can say some other words that i choose not to, maybe on air. i just wish that we could have a conversation and come together as we are rather than who we think we are. >> go ahead, dean. >> don, if i said you're a

cracker, would you be upset with that? even if i said that hatefully, would that offend you? >> not at all. because i've not had decades of oppression tossed in my face as a white person. >> but i would be offended by that. >> that's the weird thing. but when someone calls me li like -- we talked about the racist tweets i've been getting. >> i apologize. >> that's the thing. people are apologizing. why, because you're -- >> i sent them to you. >> you're too politically correct. this is racism free, so why not say it. don't feel bad for me, that only motivates me to speak the truth. not everyone is going to agree with you. when i said that word, i'm going to say the n word, i hate saying the n word. i think it takes the value out of what that word ready means. i think someone should say that

person called him a nigger, because it sanitizes. >> i think you confuse white people, because if you're saying if you can use it, why can't we use it? >> i'm not talking about on the street. i hate it in music and i hate when it's rap and all that. but what i'm saying in, in the reporting of a story, you should say the word not to sanitize it. >> white people aren't confused by the word nigger. when they say it towards someone else who is black, they mean it, generally speaking, in a derogatory fashion. >> we're not confused about the word. we're confused because you get to use it and we don't. >> go ahead, dean. >> i cannot say the n word. it would trouble me to no end. and i don't know why. maybe it's the world i grew up in. >> let's say we're making the

white people and black people in the control room uncomfortable. >> that's good. >> don't go anywhere. lots more to talk about, all right? including this. the november election is approaching and mitt romney still doesn't have a date to the dance. who is on his short list for vp? there's talk of a bromance between romney and paul ryan. marko rubio and nikki haley. but they say they're not interested. are they just playing hard to get? i'm just wondering. goldie taylor, dean, they're going to join me once again to talk about that. we're back in a moment. i love that my daughter's part fish.

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>> it's catchy, right? what do you think? they're dancing. >> i'm reenforcing the negative stereotypes around white people that they can't dance. ♪ >> so any way, it is catchy. when we played it in the newsroom, it's like, wow, that is catchy. my thing is, i don't know if you ever heard tosh.0, he has a thing, is it racist. so is it? >> i don't think it's racist, i think it's dumb. i make ads for a living, it's what i do. but whoever the copy righter is, should be fired. whoever did her hair should be fired.

>> mary is getting paid. there are a lot of southern stereotypes about us folk. if burger king was going to pay me $2 million about eating grits or kissing my cousin, i would do it. mary has been fantastic. this is the first error. and just because it was a bad commercial. >> i know. in the open, i felt a little bad, because i said what's next, watermelon. but people love mary. dean, there is some humor. there's got to be a humorous moment here. >> i loved the commercial. that's the problem. i love chicken. i want to buy the chicken. she's a black face, she's singing about chicken. >> she is black. she's natural black face. >> well, i honestly don't know the problem with the ad, because

she's singing about chicken, because black people and white people like chicken. it's my favorite food in the world. she's not dressed like a chicken or something demeaning. i'm serious. >> wendy williams said there are three things she loves you'll never see her do on tv. i'm not going to eat chicken, eat watermelon or drink some fruit punch drink on tv because it reinforces stereotypes. >> i love fried chicken, i love watermelon, i'm going to eat it wherever i like. >> here's the thing, i -- political correctness just user me. is this political correctness run amok? >> the heart of the matter is, it was poorly written and poorly executed. >> i want to move on to the morning show awawars.

katie couric was on abc, sarah palin was on nbc. who won the war? >> sarah palin won the ratings war. many people said they would not watch the "today" show. although she had a rocky airing, it beat katie couric and turned in another winning show. >> what was interesting for me, knowing the behind the scenes talent, to have katie couric come in, promote her that heavily and then robin who has been getting all the ratings, and then sarah palin. i just -- and i love katie. >> i could live another 100 years without hearing sarah palin's voice again, and i would be fine without that. and robin roberts is the most gracious woman i've ever met. >> stick around, we'll talk

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gregg williams asking his players to hurt the other team and you heard fran that was appalled about it. jamal, you played in a different era. is this talk typical in locker rooms? >> i started playing football when i was 7 years old. i never had a coach on any team i played for, i played on both sides of the ball. i played defense until i got into college. but i never had a coach direct me or any team i've been on to specifically hurt certain areas of a player. >> people are going to go, come on, this is how coaches talk, this is what happens in the locker room. >> people are talking about gregg williams never playing and should be banned from the league. i don't believe that. >> you don't think he should be banned? >> no, he's been a good coach for a number of years. he's the face of this scandal and rightfully so. now we have the audio recording. the saints were told to stop and they continued. that doesn't mean you throw away

the whole guy's career. the type of coach he is and the way he got the saints to play with aggression, by the way, the saints won the ring. right, wrong, people are trying to kill all that right now. it's a terrible situation. it should have stopped. >> all right, listen, i am from louisiana. i love the saints. my mom is in love with drew brees. she calls him breesy my baby. love it. but wrong is wrong, and to think that this happened to a city that needed it so much, a team that needed to become america's team. >> it's terrible, don, it's terrible that this is now the end cap for what the saints have done. it's been a fantastic story. they won a super bowl, but to say he should be banned forever is wrong. >> i hear players saying, okay,

this is trouble, you know, either he should be -- even fran says he should be prosecuted. i hear players speaking out strongly about this. but the people who play the fantasy football and all this, i see it online, everybody does this. >> listen, defensive players, they need to be aggressive. you want your defense to tackle. you want people to hit hard. those are the defenders i want on my team today. we were talking about some of the toughest guys in football. you want your guys to -- you hear all these different cliches. punch him in the mouth, hit him hard. but to tell your team to go right after somebody's knee or head over and ever. telling the saints to specifically go after a player that was injured the week before to get him out, this is a physical, tough sport. you want your guys to attack. look at me getting hot about this. i want to play football. >> goldie, he's sweating.

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highest good until we stop seeing one another for our attributes instead of our actions. judge people for who they are, not who you think they are. >> well? >> football is a tough sport, it's a physical sport. but what gregg williams did is not what most football coaches do. it is still the ultimate team sport, a fantastic sport. you got to be tough and physical. but this guy is not the example of how most coaches are. it's still the great sport you know and love. keep watching us. >> the bounty is a horrible thing, but goldie offered me $25 if i'll trip jamal on the way out of the studio. and take that chicken sandwich out of your pocket. >> you said a lot, as a white man -- in all seriousness, what is your come to jesus moment?

>> my hope is that you have listened to this conversation with your best self tonight. that you have suspended any of those small voices that might be doubting perspectives at the table in hopes that you're walking away, seeing things a little differently than you had at the beginning of the hour. >> yeah. i would like to read them. go ahead and put them in the prompter. my little come to jesus moment is being able to say the n word on the air. you can take those tweets off the screen. thank you. so say the n word on the air and for dean to say sand n word and all that. that's how we should be talking. this is cable news, late at night. it's what we all need to have. and by the way, because we're having this conversation doesn't mean that we're racist or race-baiting or that we're presuming guilt.