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that's it for this "ac360" special report. for more information on this issue and more on what parents and teachers can do to talk to kids about race, check out our website, ac360.com/kidsonrace. thanks for watching. thanks for watching. good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, still holding on after more than 20 years. ♪ hold on for one more day >> carnie wilson, wendy wilson, and china phillips on life, love, and getting the band back together. >> we never even dreamed that it could be this good the second time around. and the man of the moment. my primetime exclusive with masters champion bubba watson. >> what goes through a golfer's mind when you're six inches away? >> well -- >> other than don't get out. >> exactly. i was going to be famous for
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either missing it or making it. >> and only in america. morgan versus watson. game on. >> ah! >> finally. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. this is a very good time to be bubba watson. the masters champion is living the american dream ever since sinking a six-inch putt to clinch an emotional win last sunday. and tonight he tells me what it was really like. >> can you quite believe you're in the green jacket, on cnn, you know, talking to the world about being masters champion? >> talking to my favorite person. >> obviously, yeah. >> obviously. >> but can you believe it? >> no. it's a dream. it's a dream, like i said before, it's a dream that i've never completed. it's a dream that i've never finished. to be here is i guess now it's a dream come true. it's like heaven on earth. i mean, it's just a wild ride. and hopefully, this ride keeps going because it's fun right
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now. >> my primetime exclusive with wilson phillips, the '90s favorite girl group is back and stealing the show on the big screen. ♪ i know this pain ♪ why do you lock yourself up in these chains ♪ ♪ no one can change your life except for you ♪ ♪ don't ever let anyone step all over you ♪ ♪ just open your heart and your mind ♪ ♪ mm ♪ is it really bad to feel this way inside ♪ >> that was "bridesmaids'" huge hit. the surprise performance of "hold on," wilson phillips at the end of the film. 620% increase in sales. and 20 years after their debut the ladies of wilson phillips are reuniting with their new album "dedicated." joining me now for a primetime exclusive is carnie wilson, wendy wilson, and chynna philli
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phillips. welcome, ladies. >> thank you. >> it is 19 years since i last interviewed you for a british newspaper. you don't look a day older. >> thank you. >> i, however, do. >> that's so funny. >> are you all still friends? is this all for show? do you all go and beat each other up the moment these interviews are over? >> we're friends forever. >> yeah, friends for life. >> nothing could ever come between our friendship. >> even if we wanted it to. >> no. >> has it been a rocky path? >> what, the friendship? >> yes. >> well, there have been times where, you know, the three of us have been -- obviously, we disbanded for a while, and obviously there were some times where we weren't speaking. so yeah, there have been some rough patches. and you know, the three of us learned a lot of lessons along the way. >> what are the lessons? >> oh, gosh. communication. communication. communication. >> and acceptance that we all three are different people. we have different personalities. and -- >> because you're all quite feisty, aren't you? >> we can be. >> in our own way. >> and respect for each other and our differences. >> we fight when we're tired. we fight when we're stressed.
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it's like if you're home, your husband -- when do you fight? when you're tired and you're stressed. >> and performing and having hit records and touring and all that kind of thing and all the press and the demands and the pressure, it is actually mentally and physically pretty exhausting, isn't it? i can imagine that you reach a point where you just don't want to be in the same room as each other. >> you just want to stick needles in your eyes. >> yeah. or each other's. >> you're at the end of your rope. you're so done. you're done. you're bakes. you just can't even imagine doing one more show, one more interview, one more day. it's just too much. you cannot hold on for one more day. you cannot. >> when i saw you in the early '90s and you were at the end of a very long press day, and i could see it in your eyes, you were just done with it. you were like if we have to do one more interview -- but i got it. having spoken to many artists, it's so relentless when you have a big hit and you go off and you celebrate it. everyone thinks it's so glamorous. >> it's nonstop. >> and add on top of that that your management is actually -- i mean that your record company is actually managing you.
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that's a real conflict of interest. that definitely drove us into the ground. because nobody was looking out for us. >> but this time, you know, we're in our early 40s. we are -- we have nine children between us. and it's like i think now we come from a gratitude space. we feel we're lucky to be here doing this. why fight will little things? just celebrate what we're so lucky to be doing still. >> when "bridesmaids" popped and became this huge hit, fantastic for you guys, isn't it in this is something you dream of. >> just fell out of the sky. >> hundreds of millions of people around the world watching you perform. >> it was so exciting. >> if was a huge blessing for us. we had no idea about the storyline or anything, and we just took a chance and did a cameo. and wow, what a great result we got. yeah. >> amazing. has it given you a completely new lease on life as a career? >> i feel like it has. in a way. >> yeah. it's opened a ton a doors for us. it kind of put us back on the map, you might say. but we definitely feel like we
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still have our road cut out for us, ahead of us, because we want to continue singing together and make more records and writing songs. >> and touring. >> and just because you were in a hit movie isn't necessarily going to guarantee that success. you know what i'm saying? >> i think the point is the kind of role model element of that film, did you have any slot when you watched it back going, whoa? for your kids maybe. >> yeah, definitely i did not want my kids seeing the movie. that's for sure. that was not going to happen. >> judging by the -- they came to the theater, and with the first scene when she's like on top of him i said, okay, out you go. that was it. and then they didn't see the rest. that was it. until the very end when we walked out on the stage. it's not for children, i don't think. >> no. my kids didn't see it. >> i think two of my sons saw it, and i found it very disturbing that this was going to be their introduction to the female form. >> i just think it's that edgy kind of "saturday night live" like just edgy anything goes, women do what they want and just have that edge. i don't know. you know? >> well, the second time round,
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when you have all this success again now, people always said to me it's a lot sweeter. because when you stop it and it all goes away and you watch other people enjoying all the highs and the good stuff, you kind of miss it. even though it's been painful a lot of the time and horrible and you fall out and everything, actually a part of you really misses it. is it nice to be able to recapture it? >> absolutely. yeah. recapturing it has been a lot of fun. and we never even dreamed that it could be this good the second time around. i mean, wendy used to say to me, "i never in a million years thought we were going to sing together again." >> i thought it was over. >> really? >> we're back together. i'm surprised. >> and that first time you all got together and began to sing, how did that feel? >> so when would that be? like when we -- >> those first couple shows. >> yeah. >> well, we would look at each other on -- we actually couldn't look at each other on stage because we would start tearing up. >> really? >> yeah. >> that emotional? >> it's very mushy but true. >> but the funny thing is that we sounded exactly the same and it felt like the same dynamic.
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ten years later. >> and we could like sing these songs in our sleep. you know what i mean? it's just like forever embedded. you know. >> when we come back, i want to talk about this album because this is like a tribute really to your famous parents. now, everybody knows the background to this. it hasn't exactly been an easy path for any of you. so i was struck by this. i'll take a short break and come back and explore this album dedicating. because you dedicate this album to our mamas and our papas who are with us and not with us. we want you all to know what these songs mean to us. and you're recreating the magic of your parents and their era and stuff. but as i say, it's been a tough journey. so let's come back after the break and talk about that. because this seems like a very redemptive exercise to me. >> it sounds fabulous. >> it does, doesn't it? >> yes, it does. f you believe the mayan calendar, on december 21st polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space. which would render retirement planning unnecessary.
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of course you're not going to be upset. there's three of us in wilson phillips. so if carnie can't do new orleans, there's really nothing i can do. >> i'm back with the women of wilson phillips. how appropriate. "still holding on" is your new reality show on the tv guide network. because you are still holding on in many ways. alg although very glamorously, i have to say. and i have to say, carnie, you are wasting away. >> she's the incredible shrinking woman. >> what is happening here? >> i've made -- >> disappearing before my very eyes. >> thank you. >> you actually lost weight between segments. >> i know. she keeps saying i think you lost weight from the beginning of the day to the end of the day here. it's so funny. yeah. >> you famously talked about this very openly over the years. you've been up, down, like a yo-yo. >> yeah. >> you look great. >> thank you. >> tell me how you got to this happy place. >> well, for about two years i really sort of let go of my focus on my health. really, just plain and simple. and i let a lot of old habits come back into the picture. and it was -- i wasn't feeling good, and i actually really was getting scared about what it
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said on the scale and how i physically felt. so i needed to reach out for help, and i did. and i needed some more intervention. never ashamed to talk about it, admit that i need help. and i had a lap band put on over my gastric bypass. and it's helping me feel full. you know. but these two can like tell you how i've made these changes. i mean, my choices, my habits are getting so much better. i'm eating no sugar and no white flour. i'm planning my meals. i'm going for the long haul. i'm working on my inside as well as the outside. i don't know if i did that last time. it's been 13 years. i've had children. i've had a lot of personal and spiritual growth that i think is going to help me to maintain this forever. that's the goal. >> you said this great quote, great in the sense it's very powerful. "i can't smoke a joint. i can't have a glass of wine. because i want ten joints, ten glasses of wine. that's my obsessive, compulsive, and addictive behavior. i've really struggled since i've become sober."
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and that seemed to me such an honest thing to say. >> i would say that for me personally with my genetics and my experience and the way that i can be obsessive with things i just for a few years got into a really bad rut. and i decided that it's either, you know -- if i want to have children, have a family and live a long life, i've got to make some real, real serious changes. and i'm really glad that i decided to make my health first. that's what it comes down to, is health. and mental health. because you know, i don't feel good when i'm stuffing it all down with something. and i feel like we all try to have something. so that's a challenge now. what is that something? it has to come from inside of me. >> are you two proud of her for the way she's been battling this? >> i was just going to say there's an emotional aspect to it too. because we eat for a reason. people do those types of things and those types of behaviors for a reason. it's not just because oh, you know, i want to stuff myself. there's an underlying subconscious reason for that behavior. so i'm really proud of carnie for -- >> good for you. >> thank you. >> uncovering and discovering.
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>> thank you. >> let's turn to parenting. because you've got nine kids between you now. >> yeah. >> famously, you come from very famous parents. we know all that. and it's never been easy for you. i mean, your kids will also be the product of famous mothers. how are you going to deal with that scenario, that issue? how are you going to avoid the traps your parents fell into? >> we just have to push them into the press. we just have to make sure -- >> that sounds horrific. >> honestly, i think we need to keep them grounded, keep them down to earth, and you know, not let them have inflated sense of self just because of their family history. and just embrace their talents. and if that is going into the music industry, great, i will support that. you know? >> and how is your relationship with your father now? >> well, it's a little strained at the moment. no, i mean there's not -- >> do you guys have one?
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>> there's peace. >> there's peace there. >> is there actually what you would call a relationship? >> yes. >> somewhat of a relationship. and i wish it was more of a relationship. >> how would you describe it? >> hmm. >> a shattered relationship. >> no. god. sensitive. there's a connection always. he's -- i mean, compare it to years ago. we hardly ever saw him. and his life has changed so much. and when we do see him, i try to make him dinner at least a few times a year, come to his house. he's always traveling. that man has been on the road for ten years straight, and he hardly ever takes a break. and i say slow down a little bit. i try to say slow down. and the times we do really connect is during the holidays or when we do see him and we listen to music together. usually, it's our music we're playing for him. he's playing us his music, and we sit together, and he says, "i love you so much. you know how beautiful you are?" and that's all a girl really wants to hear is their father
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saying that to them. >> but do you feel like he's your dad or -- >> of course. >> -- is he like this sort of disjointed friend you've got? >> i wouldn't say that he's like a father figure so much. but i love him as a person, and he is our dad. of course he's our dad. he's our blood. >> i think that, you know, when i see the pride in his eyes and i see how proud he is and that he's been able to express that to us, that that's good enough. he's never been the hands-on type father. he knows that, and we know that. and that's part of the growth and the acceptance of who we are as people. you know, he has given such a gift to the world and a gift to me and a gift to wendy, and that's a mature thing -- to me that's a healthy way of looking at it. because people aren't going to change. >> let me throw you a little clip here because it's pertinent, i think. let's watch this. ♪ how can we be like enemies when we're only flesh and blood ♪ ♪ what does it take to make your
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heart bleed ♪ ♪ daddy, are we enough ♪ you can get through ♪ there's nothing stopping you from getting to us ♪ >> that's pretty -- >> why did you play that? >> well, because it's kind of perfect timing, wasn't it? for -- it's making me feel quite emotional because i've just had a little baby girl. and you know, when you read those lyrics, "how can we be like enemies when we're only flesh and blood. what does it take to make your heart bleed, daddy? aren't we enough?" pretty heartbreaking stuff. >> yeah. >> a girl wants her father's attention and approval. you know? >> we wrote that song when he was involved with a doctor that really controlled his life and had him under the reins, and we didn't get to spend any time with him at all. and we missed him so much. and this was our way of reaching out to him. and the funniest thing ever, the classic, was his response to that song. we said, how do you like that song, daddy? he goes, "well, you either really love me or i'm just a
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piece of meat." that was his reaction. it was so classic. brian. you know, he's so funny. >> is he a good grandfather in any way? is he a better grandfather than father? >> i just think that we need to spend more time with him. i want him to spend more time with his grandchildren. he's got five kids at home, numerous dogs, a life on the road. we just have to spend more time together. when we are together, you see that love in his eyes. they sit on his lap for a minute. he kisses them. and that's what we have. that's all we've got right now. and i want it to be more. >> to better than it was but room for improvement. >> yes. >> work in progress. >> like any relationship probably, if you really think about it. >> no, no, it's true. chynna, you're obviously part of the baldwin dynasty now. what is it like being with all those baldwins? >> they're hot. they're funny. >> some of them are hot. >> they're smart. they are great dads. and you know, they're great people. i love them. >> are they funny to be around? >> hysterical.
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>> stephen's very annoying but he's quite funny. >> try going to dinner with alec and billy and stephen and daniel, and you will be doubled over in pain. >> i can believe that. because they're all funny. >> oh, yeah. >> and alec, i mean, he's -- is he the leader of the pack or not really when they get together? >> well, he's the oldest. so he thinks he knows what's right and what's the best thing to do. and sometimes he's right. and sometimes he's wrong. but he's a fantastic guy and he's super generous, really loving. and you know, a great brother. he's a good guy. >> wow. this is a really -- >> yeah. >> -- heartwarming testimony to the baldwin clan. >> yeah. >> no down sides? >> several. no, no. i mean, come on. they have a temper. you know, they -- mm. let's just say that sometimes their egos can get a tad bit inflated. >> no. stephen? >> a little bit. >> i can't believe that. >> and you know, but that's human. i mean, we're all a little bit
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inflated from time to time. so i'm not pointing any fingers. >> given that you guys have collectively had to spend all your lives surrounded by fame, what is your view -- now you've got nine kids. it changes your perspective on life. what have you learned about fame? because it could be a very corrupting thing. >> well, you know, fame -- it's really basically like the enemy. because the minute you start to believe you're famous and you start to think you're famous is when you start having some real trouble and some big problems emotionally. because suddenly you can start to feel entitled. you can start to feel like this is what life is all about, this is, you know, my purpose in life. then you're only as good as your last project. it's evil, and it just feeds on itself. so for me i think that fame is just a bad word. you know, i'd rather be called an artist, you know, than famous. >> but maybe you have to learn that, right? >> yeah. >> fame can be very intoxicating when it first happens. >> oh, yeah.
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>> i think it's an illusion. i think it's not real. and i think that people want to believe that it's real because it makes them feel better and it makes them want to connect to something. >> the power. >> it's a terrific album. i love the spirit behind it. >> thank you. >> i love the fact you can go back and celebrate what were some of the great songs in the history of america and you can do it now without perhaps the pain you would have had to have done it a few years ago. so thank you, ladies. >> thank you so much. >> and your reality show "still holding on" airs sundays on the tv guide channel. your new album "dedicated" is out now. here it is. chynna phillips, carnie wilson, and wendy wilson. thank you all very much. shh. david copperfield doesn't like it when customers say that... ha, so he's a "magician," huh? can he do this? ♪ or this! or, how about this! wow, that was really impressive. it was... uh, i think we'll go with the $600. yes, we will. [ male announcer ] combine auto and renters with state farm, and save an average of $600.
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bubba watson upgrading his wardrobe with a brand new masters green jacket on sunday. you've seen his emotional win. you've heard he's never had a formal lesson in his life. and right now you're going to hear from himself. i'm proud to say i'm joined by the masters champion himself, bubba watson. >> thanks for having me. >> what a moment. for you, huh? the green jacket. can i touch it? >> yeah, go ahead. >> how does it feel? >> it feels nice. >> how does it really feel to be bubba watson right now? >> it's overwhelming. people like yourself wanting to talk to me. for me to come to new york and do these interviews and meet you for the first time. it's a special time. >> why have you given me the big exclusive interview? because somebody has told me a rather unnerving reason why.
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>> because when you were on this other show "america's got talent" you were a [ bleep ]. so i wanted to come here and make fun of you just like you made fun of everybody else. >> i heard that was the reason. you just love me because i'm a [ bleep ]. >> yeah. >> i don't care how we got you here. i'll take it. i love your story, bubba. i was saying this on the show last night. there's something very american about it. there's something very authentic about you and what you achieved this year. i ended the show by saying you had three great dreams -- to get the car off dukes of hazzard, the general lee, to adopt a child, and to win the masters. and you've done all three in the last three months. it's been quite an extraordinary time for you, hasn't it? >> yeah, it has. it's been crazy. i took a tournament off this year that i normally don't took off. it got me to go to the auction where the general lee was. and somehow i could afford -- the bidding stopped, so i could afford it. >> you paid $110,000 for it. >> 110,000. and my limit was going to be 150,000. so it stopped, and i bought it. i have that baby at my house. >> why did you want that car so
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much? >> the tv show. the tv show was -- >> "dukes of hazzard." >> "the dukes of hazzard" was amazing. i loved it. who doesn't want a car that jumped -- i have the original car that jumped in the opening credits. it's crazy to say i own that. and then going through the adoption process, trying to keep it behind closed doors, trying to keep it while i was trying to play golf and trying to play well on the golf course, a baby fell into our laps. we came home with a baby right after bay hill. had a week off. had to fly to the masters. and a week later i'm here talking to you with masters champs. all three in three or four months. it's been -- >> can you quite believe it in can you quite believe you're in the green jacket on cnn, you know, talking to the world about being masters champion? >> talking to my favorite person. >> obviously, yeah. >> obviously. >> but can you believe it? >> no. it's a dream -- like i said before, it's a dream that i've never completed. it's a dream that i've never finished. to be here is -- i guess now it's a dream come true. it's like heaven on earth.
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it's just a wild ride. and hopefully, this ride keeps going because it's fun right now. >> what i loved about the way you did it was it was like a "tin cup" moment. you're in the trees. the second hole of the playoffs. and it was like what's he going to do? is he going to play safe? you know, which way is bubba going to go? and every natural golf fan was just saying go for it. go on, bubba, go for it. and you played this hole. you're obviously a lefty. you played this hook out. it was probably -- it must have been the best shot of your life. given the pressure. the stakes were so high. the difficulty of the shot and how it played out. was that the moment for you? >> no, i think the six-inch putt to win was the big moment. but you know, the shot was amazing. i mean, it set up perfect for me. i love to hook the ball. i hooked it about 40, 40 yards, i've been telling everybody. so it just worked out perfectly. i didn't even see it. the crowd came rushing in on me. i ran under the ropes. ran onto the fairway. and then i asked my caddie where is it? and he said about 15 feet from the hole.
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and i said, wow, i can't believe it, that i actually pulled it off. >> i mean, it could have gone horribly wrong. it was a massive risk, that shot. many golfers would have just laid out there, they'd have played it safe rather than take a risk that could have blown them the masters. especially as you've never come close to winning it before. what is it inside you that made you look down and say i'm going for this? >> i trust everything -- every -- every ounce of my body i trust it all. i trust my abilities. i trust i can do it. and that was the whole day. i just kept trusting. just trusting i was doing the right thing. if it was meant to be, it was going to happen. somehow it happened. and i never had a doubt that that shot, i could pull that shot off. >> the moment when you had the six-inch putt to win the masters, what goes through a golfer's mind when you're six inches away? >> well -- >> other than don't -- >> right. exactly. i was going to be famous for either making it or missing it. i actually did a motion to tell
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the crowd to quiet down. i wanted to go through my routine. i went behind the ball to look at it, took some time, took some deep breaths, just making sure i did everything i was supposed to do, and it went in. >> were you thinking of anybody in particular? i always wonder, when you reach that kind of epicenter of a sporting career, what is going to be the greatest moment of your life, who do you think of, what goes through your mind, or is it all just focused on the shot? >> i definitely wasn't thinking about this show, if that's what you mean. >> you weren't thinking of me when you won the masters? >> no. you know, i -- like i've always said, this is to honor my parents, to honor my late dad, to honor my grandparents, honor all the people that have gotten me to this point in my life. my friends. some of the golfers that stayed around. some of the family members that were there. all my fans. twitter, facebook. all my fans across the world. you know, it was all for them. i mean, they helped me. they helped me get to where i am. they helped me drive to where i am today. and without their support and their love, their encouragement, who knows where i'd be.
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especially my beautiful wife. it was special. >> it really was. and you were very emotional then. i can see you're emotional now. you're obviously an emotional guy. but it just must have meant so much. i was thinking about your story when you took that shot, about your father, about your mother, about your wife, about your little baby, all of it. it's hard to imagine a more emotional moment for anyone than the one that you went through there. for all sorts of reasons. your wife came through a health scare. you know, your father, who was this great mentor to you, lost his life a couple of years ago. and there you are with your mother standing there and hugging your mother on the 18th at augusta. it just must have been an extraordinary moment. >> it was. you know, growing up, the way we grew up, money's not a big important thing to us. we don't care about money. we didn't care about being famous, showing off, or anything like that. and so that moment, it just overwhelms you. you know, because it is. it's just for my mom, for my
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dad, my late dad, my grandparents, my new baby boy, my wife. just everybody that's influenced me. it just all comes together in one. >> let's take a short break. we'll come back and talk about the early days when you used to practice in this little dirt track, practice all these fancy hooks that win you the masters, and also about your friendship with tiger woods, who is a great hero of yours, i believe. so let's discuss that after the break. man: 1939 -- my parents ran across an ad for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america. they met with the branch manager and they said, "look, we've got this little hot dog cart, and it's on a really good corner. let's see if we can buy the property." and the branch manager said, "all right, i will take a chance with the two of you." and we've been loyal to bank of america for the last 71 years.
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bubba watson, a man not afraid to show his emotions, and who could blame him? the 2012 masters champion is back with me now. talking about your father before we went to the break there, and he served in vietnam. what did he give you, your father, do you think, in terms of values? how much of his son are you, do you think? >> the first thing that stands to mind is he told me i've got two options -- i can be a follower or a leader. and he said you don't want to follow, you want to be a leader. so that always sticks to me. so i play the game of golf my way. i do things my way. i don't let anybody influence me. except my wife sometimes. she influences me. but you know, i do it my way. i don't let people tell me what to do or anything. i'm going to do it my way, do everything in my life my way.
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if it makes me happy and it's something i want to do, that's what i'm going to do. >> they say you've got a.d.d. is that true? >> what? i wasn't paying attention. sorry. >> attention deficit disorder. you're winding me up. but they say you've got this. but what i like was the intensity on your face in those playoff holes was very marked. when i didn't know you, i was like wow, this guy's focused and intense. then i read about the a.d.d. i'm like how can this be the same guy? how did you become so composed at such a pressurized moment? if the rest of the time you're all over the place. >> you know, i recognize that. i've had a couple chances to win where i struggled on sunday. so for me i'm not mad, i'm not angry of anything. i just put my head down in between holes, walking down the fairway, not trying to focus on anybody yelling at me, supporting me, cheering for me. i try to just stay in the moment and talk to myself as i'm walking down the fairway in my
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head, trying to get ready for the next shot, get ready for what i've got facing me. so yeah, it looks like a stern face. it looks like i'm really focused. and that's what i have to do. i find that out, that that's what i have to do that i have to work at that, stay committed to each shot, stay on the golf course until the job was done. >> how important is tiger woods in all? i read that he and you have a good friendship but that he had a serious word with you about this, he said look, you can win big titles. tell me about that. >> you know, a few years ago when we were playing a lot of practice rounds together, before his injuries and stuff, we played practice rounds, and he -- i learned a lot from him. i learned by. i don't learn by listening or doing. i learn by watching. and watching him move shots, being the shot maker that he is, hitting great curves, hitting 3 woods on certain holes, chipping and putting, knowing that chipping and putting's a big deal in the game of golf. talking to him, he just -- he just showed me a lot of things. i learned a lot of things. and i've grown in the game of golf from that.
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and then he said i've got to take it more serious, you know, you've got to take the game of golf more serious if you're going to perform, if you're going to get a w. and then -- so i took that to heart. i hired me a trainer. i have a trainer that goes with me everywhere i go, trying to work out more, trying to stay healthy, to do all the things, to make the right move toward being a better golfer. and it made sense. i understood what he was talking about after i thought about it for a little while. and obviously, i've improved the last few years. i've won a few times. >> and you do outdrive him, of course. >> well, for sure. he's older, though. >> you're obviously now experiencing celebrity probably for the first time in your career probably 37 when you see what happened to tiger -- and obviously, it's great to see him back now. but he went through the up and the down of celebrity. what lessons can you draw from that? >> well, i think you've got to learn from every situation. you know, the thing about tiger, he's in the media more than anybody else. the guy who's number 200 in the world doesn't really see the
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media that much. so he might have problems on and off the course. we just don't know. we all have problems in our lives. we all have situations in our lives. obviously, you don't want to use that as an example, a guy that i look up to, a guy that's changed the game of golf forever, a guy who still can grow the game of golf. you just kind of learn from that, and hopefully you don't fall in those same situations, you can get out of those sishz, and you don't put yourself in situations that can harm you and your family. and also the injuries he's had over the years is just something you can't help, you can't predict. >> is he still the best you've seen, tiger? >> yes. i never got to see jack nicklaus. i think rory mcilroy has talent. i think he's got the head on, the head you that need to play good golf, to compete in every major. watching his golf swing, he could be the next. but you know, tiger has set the bar so high. i mean, phil mickelson's won 40 times, and tiger's almost doubled that. so tiger's set the bar so high that it's almost uncatchable, i guess. >> let's take another break. i want to come back and talk to you about women in golf. the woman who's most important
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and the bogies go ♪ ♪ hey >> that was -- that was pretty good. i feel hot right now. ♪ oh, oh, oh ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh, oh bubba watson. what were you thinking? >> "america's got talent" right there. that's what that is. >> that is not going through to the second round. that was golf boys featuring fellow golfers ben crane, rickie fowler, and hunter mahan. i think i got that right. what were you doing there? >> well -- >> what was the thought process? >> golf is boring. so -- >> that is true. >> yeah. you know, we felt like trying to help charities in a different way. so it got on itunes. we got the song on itunes. we got a ring tone. kind of raise money for charity in different ways, bring a light to it, and just show our character off the course. because on the course it gets boring. it gets long. >> i think you're going to single-handedly revolutionize golf. because you're just not boring. >> well -- >> a lot of them are, i'm afraid. i've interviewed a lot of golfers. some of them are very dull.
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>> i've got to keep winning, though. if i don't win no one cares. >> there's a side to you which is very entertaining. let's talk women in golf because there's a big row this week about the augusta not allowing female members. what is your view? you're the champion. >> this day and age i think that -- i don't see any reason why it could hurt. but again, it's a club that has rules, that can do that. there's places that -- there's rules made up, there's laws made up that we can't do certain things. it took a lot of security codes to get in here, to get in this room. what are y'all protecting? that's the thing. it's something for your own organization to figure out. you know, y'all obviously didn't want bubba to come in here right away. i went through a lot of security. there's a -- >> we couldn't -- >> there's a lot of big men out there watching me. >> tell me about your wife -- >> wait, what was your words on this? let me hear your great speech on it. >> oh, you think it's completely ridiculous. and i think the idea that in the modern age such a prestigious organization that the whole world is focused on for this amazing tournament doesn't allow
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women members is just like something out of the dark ages. i mean, let's just get over themselves. how could it hurt to have a female member? what are they going to do? >> i know who's not going to be a member. >> who? >> you. >> i am banning myself. if you're watching, augusta, i ban myself. you can't ban me. i ban myself. i'll come back when you allow women. let's move on to your wife. >> no, they're not going to have you back. >> they don't care either way. they've never even heard of me. >> they probably don't watch your show. >> watch it. i started off liking you. >> truth hurts sometimes. >> it could easily turn. just be careful, bubba. your wife is 6'4", and she's a basketball champion, played in the olympics, played all over the place, actually. tell me about how you met. >> we were at the university of georgia. she was hurt. she's a year older. so she was hurt. coming back and rehabbing at the university of georgia. i love to play basketball. i was playing on the courts, goofing around with the girl -- the girls' team. i played with a lot of them when they were off-season. so we were running up and down the courts, and she was there
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rehabbing her knee. and so i started talking to her. she blew me off. she could care less who i was. because i looked ridiculous out there trying to play basketball. but i overheard her talking a couple days later at the same place, talking to the women's assistant coach about golf. so i said this is my in, i can talk to her. you know. so i went over, i said hey, you want to play golf one day? and she agreed somehow. and we went there, and i told her who i was, told her what i did. i said i just turned pro but i'm still finishing school. and so i hit a couple good shots, and so i guess i impressed her. and buthd her for the next couple weeks. she still said i don't want to hang out with you. and then i guess i just kept bugging her enough where she said yes, she'd go on a date with me so, we hung out. she said she had to go overseas so, she wanted to be serious. i said going overseas and spending time away is no big deal, we could have a long-distance relationship and work, talk on the phone and meet when you get back over here. so we did that for a while. and somehow it got more serious.
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and we're married with a kid now. >> is she the great love of your life? >> oh, for sure. she's -- she does amazing things to make me the person i am, the golfer that i am. she makes it all -- makes all gel. you know, my craziness, my a.d.d. as you call it, is everywhere, everywhere. and she makes it all work and gel together. she's the one that is serious about everything and i'm the jokester, and she's my best friend. i talk to her about anything. there's not one thing i would hide from her, unless i'm trying to surprise her. >> what did she say when you became master champion? >> she didn't say much. she said i love you and can't wait to see you. she said that it would be amazing for caleb to see these
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videos, how i always talk about my son. >> can you imagine when your little boy is a little older? >> when he's old enough to focus? >> yeah, and you sit him down. this is dad winning the masters. >> he might ask who you are. wait, i did that already. >> what a special moment that will be for you. >> it will be. it will be some good father-son stuff. it will be something i can only dream about. easter sunday, the masters, we've had him for two weeks at that time and he'll see these pictures and videos of him and hopefully he knows what the masters is and realizes that his mom and dad really cared for him and just prove our love to him. >> good for you. from my point of view, i like golf. i think you are a breath of fresh air in a sport that can
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often be quite dull. i think the whole of america, the whole world was roaring you on in the masters. it was fantastic to see you win. having said that, i want to challenge you because we have a little putting green down there. this is going to be an only in america special. it's britain, the america. the rider cup, right here after the break.
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we're going to hit a shot, under the porch, over the roof, into the hot tub. let's see if i can do it. are you watching that! whoa! >> a classic bubba watson trick shot. he's the masters champion. however, this is not augusta, this is cnn, and it's only in america special, my version of the rider cup. bubba, you may be masters champion, but you haven't come up against the morganator. one shot each. >> did you make that up yourself? >> i did, the morganator versus
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the masters champion. how far is that, five feet? >> nine feet. >> could be out of your range. i'm going first. winner takes all. may the best man win, and i will. by the time, you're going right-handed. >> that's fine. what are you doing right now? >> don't you worry about me, mate. this is going in. okay, that didn't go very well. show me how it's done, master. >> no comments for that one. >> no pressure, but 300 million people are watching this worldwide. oh! at least mine stayed on the grass. >> let's have these
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