two plus two makes four. >> ain't got to be -- >> dick clark, that does it for us -- he sbrent plentied more than 10,000 musical -- >> i got to go. i got to be there because it's part of american tradition. >> from teenaged disk jockey, to

multimillion dollar media mogul. dick clark, literally. tonight the stars pay tribute. donny osmond, gloria estefan, paul anka, boys to men, debbie gibson and more. only in america, the legacy of dick clark, through the generations of superstars he helped create. this is piers morgan tonight. good evening, you're looking live at times square where dick clark separated music with america for 47 glorious years. our big story is of course the death of dick clark, the music icon who died of a massive heart attack at the santa monica hospital. dick clark was much more than that, he was a genius behind

"american bandstand." listen to his great friend ryan seacrest paying tribute on tonight's "american idol". >> we are sar to announce the passing of my dear friend, dick clark. without dick, a show like this would not exist. he will be missed greatly. our thoughts and our prayers go out to his family. i know that he's in a better place, saying, hey, let's get on with the show, okay? you've got it, boss. now for our big story, i want to bring in other all-stars, people who knew dick clark better than most. connie frances at her home in

california, donny osmond and paul anka. you knew dick clark for 40, 50 years, an absolute lgds of the business, put it in historical context, how important was dick clark, do you think? >> he was a pioneer, in the early days of television, with "american bandstand" he revolutionized music. he had blacks and whites dance together, unheard of, a lot of young people watching were saying, what? that's crazy. that was crazy then to put that on. risk taking. then he was involved in so many programs that the public didn't even know. >> i knew that you were responsibility for this show alone before i came along. 7,000 shows. dick clark apparently was responsible in all these guises for 75,000 shows on television.

there's so many things he touched as a producer, as a businessman, he owned a radio network, quiz shows, television talk shows, he produced donnie and marie. you're going to have donnie on. >> if you could bottle the dick clark magic, what would you would have? >> he could do anything, he was very, very good. you wouldn't go around quoting dick clark, there was no memorable great moments, but he was kind of every man. he was there, he entered the room well. the camera liked him. he was gentle, he was kind, he was smart, he was revolutionary in music. for example, even as he aged, most people get older, you and i, i'm not saying you're old, we could not name is billboard top ten.

>> but he could? >> he could name it. i'm sure he could have named it yet. >> let me bring in connie frances, you knew dick clark since you were 19 years old. what was dick's importance to you, your career and your life? >> well, there would have been no career without dick clark. so he impacted my life greatly. i would have probably been a doctor. it would have been a far different life. but the interesting thing, piers, they did not discuss with the woman i discussed the show with this afternoon, was the last two weeks of dick's life and where his head was during that period of time. how little the acquisition of money had become to him. because he was worth well over a billion. it really was how my desire to help veterans, wanted it to

become his desire too. and finally, he was going to join with me in that effort. starting january 17th in california. when i was being honored by somebody else. >> do you think, connie, in the last few days of his life, he began to realize that actually money, that he had made intention of wanting to seek lots of money and success, he was quite unashamed about that, and he was very successful, he made tens of millions of dollars in his time. do you think in the end he realized that wasn't what was fomp important in his life. >> it was up until, i think i saw him a year and a half ago, i went to visit carey and dick in their home. it was so magnificent, i can't even call it an estate. it's like a lot of different estates, i think it has to be in

different zip codes, it's so g magnificent and i looked about this magnificent place, and he still had a great brilliant mind. he said this is worth $75 million, the acquisition of money was always very important to dick. but the last couple of weeks it didn't mean a thing to him and i wanted something else to become important to him. and i remember i was with my hairdresser carol, and she was listening because i had the phone down and she was doing my hair and finally, i sa lfinally want to be there january 7, but for some reason medically i couldn't be there. but he was committed to helping veterans in the last few months of his life. >> connie, let me just bring in -- yeah, it's a very touching

story. let me bring in donny osmond, dw donny you knew dick clark for 40 years. what was the importance of "american bandstand". >> it was the show that everybody wanted fob on because they could be stars, they could become legends thanks to dick clark. he was such a great personality, a great businessman. but when you talk to him and i have known ever since i was about 12, 15 years old, i had my first number one record, i was on bandstand, he always had the ability to treat you as a friend. we can come up with words and larry even said it, ryan seacrest said it, he was a wonderful pioneer. he was that, but i like to look at it a little differently. who is the next dick clark? i mean when you think about it,

there's a lot of influential people in the world, you being one, there's a lot of influential television shows that represent talent out there. but i think you would be hard pressed to find someone to fill dick clark's shoes, what he was able to accomplish and how he did and the legacy that he lived. when you look at it from that peck speckive, when you say the word legend, y. dick clark was a legend. >> irreplaceable is the word that springs to mind with dick clark. the importance that he had on american popular culture for its time and for the generations that followed, really he is irreplaceable. >> or as many things he did, i think sea crest has come close, he has television shows, the

enetwork, but he has come closest to touching, but there will never be a r another dick clark. >> like many people in the business today, great sadness at the passing of dick claire, how d did you feel when you heard? >> we were all sad, our family because he was very close to us. he actually had one of my grand dogs, one of my dalmatians, he had come after my accident to visit me here in florida and he had met my daal magszs and he wanted one of them. what i think was most amazing about dick clark was that he was a human being. he was one of the top people that you wanted to get your music to and you knew if he put you on his show, you were a success. and yes, he produced a lot of things but he produced it because he loved it. and you could tell that what he was doing was because it was in his heart and soul and he was real.

you meet so many people out in the industry that when you meet them, they kind oflet you down a little bit. you realize that there's something there that lost its humanity a little bit, and dick clark was quite the opposite, he was such an amazing human being, warm, loving, caring, always humble and talking to everything and just trying to solve problems, he wasn't problematic in the least he just tried to do the best for all the artists that he believed in and he also loved people that were real, and that set him apart. >> great statement from the president barack obama, he said i was sadden to hear about the passing of dick clark with "american bandstand" he reshaped the television landscape forever in 40 years we welcomed him into our homes to celebrate the new year, but more poimportant has s

ground breaking -- our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends, which number far more than he knew. larry a very -- >> dick clark with all the fame and all the money, wasn't a limousine guy. dick clark was a regular guy. he was a regular guy. >> there was a lovely quote, he never lost touch of his love for hot dogs, of going to the ball game, going to the mall. he stayed in touch with the average american and you could say he had an average american's taste. >> let's take a break, everybody stand by, we'll come back with more reminiscence of dick clark after the break.

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15 years ago, larry, i gave a speech. i don't know why i got on a soapbox, but i said there is a day that music will come into our homes via a box, we'll never see a record. and lo and behold it's here. >> exactly what made dick clark an all american jean justice. larry's back with me. glorious estefan and paul anka will join us as well. >> the guy knew, he stayed in touch with the times. but he knew about the way he could communicate, you and i couldn't say what it's going to

be like in five years. dick knew. >> of all the people you ever interviewed had that distinctive adult feel for the majority of what americans need to feel and hear. >> steve jobs, interviewed him early on, he had it. not many. >> there are many. >> that know about tomorrow. i tell you one thing, if you do know, you're going to be very rich. >> paul anka, let me come to you here, you appeared on "american bandstand" you new dick very well. put dick's legacy into perspective for me. >> i knew dick for 42 years. his legacy i think everyone has really -- first of all as a human being, as someone said earlier, has to be accounted for. he was an incredible friend and i knew him through, even adversity.

you know, he had to restore his integrity. i think it it almost destroyed him, it cost him a mill yop dollars. he got back only his feet again and built this empire. that's the kind of man that we're talking about here. when you knew him as a friend, the humility that was a lot of continuity in his life. the last time i had lunch with him. it was always amazing, he was the brother, he was like the father, the guy that never changed. those kind of people that are indigenous to our -- >> you had a show with your sister marie in 1998 to 2000. and it was a dick clark

production show. so you knew him in many different guises, what is everyone saying about him, was he as nice offscreen that he appeared to be on screen? >> it makes me laugh every time i think about it. he was our producer and he was able to create peace out of chaos and you know showbiz can be nothing but kay yot. and marie and i were interviews this person, but we both were on each other's nerves, i was on marie's nerves, she was on mine, we come to a commercial break, i look at dick clark and i said stop tape. i take marie behind the wall, now everybody in the studio can hear this conversation. and we proceed to rip each other's heads off. and we're just yelling at each other because we were just on each other's nerves. around the corner comes dick clark, he comes walking towards us and this man, he knew how to diffuse any situation. he walks up to us, puts one hand

on marie's shoulder, one happened on mine and he looks at us and says these two words, now children. and we all realized how childish we were. but dick had the most unbelievable way of bringing everybody back together and making everybody friends. and creating peace out of chaos. >> i love that. gloria estefan, let me bring you back because you and i remember this, i interviewed you at the time after you recovered from the horrific back injury that you sustained in a bus accident. and it was dick clark that got you back performing. tell me about his powers of persuasion. what did he do, how was he in that persuasive mode? >> i tell you, only dick clark could have talked me into doing that, because twice in my life my knees have knocked, and that

was one of them. i thought that was just an expression but it actually happened. right after coming back from my accident, people thought that i couldn't walk. he was such a supportive human being. he had us on bandstand and he really loved us and supported everything we did. and when he came to me and said i want you to come on this show, i was still pretty much recuperating because i had had the accident in march of 1990 and this was january of 1991. i was starting to feel like i was getting back to normality. i kept saying, dick, i don't know if i'm ready, he just gave me such peace in saying, we're going to take care of you, people are really dying to have you come back and i would love it for it to be on our show. because we had won the american

music award for best new group a couple of years before that. he was an amazing person. and we're very sad we're going to miss him, but he had such a well lived life. i think that everyone can be very happy that he had that kind of life that he did and that he made such a huge impact on so many lives, both performers and of people that watched all the great stuff he did on television and radio and thing he did. >> connie frances, you went through some pretty tough times in your life and there's a story you told where dick clark actually flew across the country to help you on one occasion, tell me about that? >> yes, i had during the '80s, actually 17 involuntary commitments to mental institutions and the first time dick heard about it, he flew on a private plane and dick didn't

like to spend a lot of money, he knew in a private plane cross country to the hospital. and he begged on his knees for me to take lithium because i was diagnosed, actually misdiagnosed as bipolar, and he pleaded with me to take lithium. and another time he came to my home in bel air and had me committed because he thought that's what i needed to be, to be committed. he has been there for every crisis of my life. and when i was a victim of rape in 1974, i did not appear publicly for seven years. and in 1977, he pleaded with me to play his westchester theater

and there was no way i was going to do that. and in 1977, i lost my voice completely due to some nasal surgery and dick wasn't buying that, he said it's all in your ahead, connie, it's in your ahehead and i said, it's not, i'll show you the doctor's report, it's not, h said, yes, it is. he said fly into l.a. and we'll go to the studio and you do one line at a time and i don't care if you do 100 takes and then we'll put it all together and you can lip sync on the show. and i said that's cheating, i'm not lip syncing, you know how much the public is dying to see you? you got to do the show, connie, you got to do the show. it had to be 200 takes. we put this thing together, it was a reasonable fact simmly of

my voice. >> he gave you that confidence. >> yeah, he did, but it was dick's reaction, it was a moment in tv history, his reaction to that. that was what was important. >> yeah. thank you, connie, just touch on that, larry, he clearly had great persuasive powers, he was a great showman but he also had had -- the confidence to perform, we saw that with gloria said, with what connie said, what was it about him that enabled him to persuade people to have the confidence to -- >> he was your kid brother, he was your older brother. that great line to donny, that's a dick clark line. he could be very persuasive, i almost left the radio network i

was in to join his and i couldn't do it. it was a contractual thing and he just looked at me and said, you're not coming? he was sweet, he was genuine. >> what do you think america has lost today? >> they have lost an institution, when these people leave us, they leave a hole that doesn't get filled. he's just -- he's going to be remembered a long, long, long time. this business owes him a debt. >> i think it's very true. larry king, thank you very much. thank you also to connie frances, donny osmond and allan can. . >> dick clark was a great friend of mine, he lived in one of my buildings for many years in new york. he was just a real icon.

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♪ just see that i need you near and away from me at all times ♪ ♪ my feelings are there ♪ that i won't let go >> boyz 2 men on -- the commodores, a supergroup with lionel ritchie also had some memorable performances on bandstand. you said you sounded uncouth. is this an unusual event? >> it happens more than people think, the offkey thing. >> what does it mean to you to see dick clark introducing you as a group? how big a moment is that for any musical act? >> think i appreciate it now more than i did then. because back then, we were still very much kids and everything at that time, our success came from

fast. so everything just came at our heads, so it was one of those things where, yes, dick clark is awesome, we know who he is, we know how important he is, but it was just more about just going out there and singing, but now looking back and seeing all of the things that mr. clark has done for us and so many other people, i realize how great those moments, watching them really are. >> william king, i mean one of the key things that i felt that dick clark did, which has probably been underplayed today, amid all the tributes, was the incredible gamble he took in bringing racial integration to american television sets. he really did go out on a limb, you know, he had the first interracial audiences dancie ii together. he interviewed young black teenagers on his show, all this stuff at the time something that may cause advertisers in the south to run a mile. could be damaging, maybe career

damaging. tell me about that side of dick clark. >> i'll tell you this, we won one year the pop award on the ama, american music awards. and i believe the bee gees won the r&b award that year. that shows you right there that -- that was -- it was something that i think he felt really good about that he was probably the pioneer of pop music as we know it today and that he -- it was all diverse to him. you know, he just brought all the music to everybody all the time. and i think he got a great joy out of that. >> actually just had a statement from your commodores colleague, lionel ritchie. he says dick clark was one of my ment mentors, he understood artist try as well as the dna of artists and gave me the

confidence to execute my career goals and for that i will always be thankful. i will miss him dearly. that says it all, there, lionel, doesn't it? >> i remember the time he first met and he kept saying gentlemen, gentlemen, dick clark would say to me us. every time we did his show, i think we did his show about six timeses and he would always come back and see us before we went on the show, and he would always say gentlemen. i said you always make sure gentlemen, why are you always -- every show he never did, from the bloopers to everything he did, was always fun, it was more child like, i would say, than anything else, and that it reached the the side of us that we all even joyed and where we all wanted to be. i think that's why he's so

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five for four, three, two, money, happy new year. >> it's hard to imagine munew r year's eve without dick clark courting it down. debbie you were just 19 years old when you first appeared on bandstand with dick clark. did you realize at the time what a big deal it was? >> i know that a lot of young artists now don't hold that musical history in high regard. i grew up with music in my house and saying oh, my god, i used to come home every day and dance with dick clark in american band stand. at that moment, i felt like i

had arrived in the music big. i remember thinking, oh, my god, dick clark just said my name. >> that says it all, doesn't it? you said when you first appeared, you didn't realize the significant of it. but hearing dick clark say your name was a huge deal. >> it seems absurd now in 2012 we could even talk about integrated audiences as a big deal. but what i said in the last segment, it was a huge deal. it was a ground breaking, risk taking thing. he was known as a pioneer for block groups. >> it started way back in '57 when the show started and when we took on the helm of actually

being a host, he was actually a replacement host for someone else. but he understood very clearly a long time ago, that to put it plainly, white kids listen to black music. an he was very much in tune with that, and even today, the correlation between dick and boys 2 men is pretty much the same. we kind of fought the same fight, his was a lot more profound because of the times he was living in. but being as though we were black kids, young black teenagers singing r&b music, to main stream america we may have seemed a little like the stigma. but people realized that once people got to know us and understood who we were, not to mention bow ties and, you know, shorts and chucks didn't luhurt everybody's guard went down. and dick understood the connection that music had. it wasn't about black and it

wasn't about white. same thing with boyz 2 men. you see young, you see old, you see black and you see white. it was really what was going on in america. it wasn't pop loor. >> would you say na dick clark played a valuable and significant role in -- >> i don't think it's a stretch at all. if you think about the shows that were on during that time, that dealt with music, like we had midnight special, which i'm sure all the kids out there today don't remember. then we had soul train. each one of those shows where specifically geared toward music. soul train was the name soul,

r&b, but what dick clark did was straight across the board. so he had such a warm mingling of all of the music, all of the acts, the blacks, the whites, whatever, that it became natural. it wasn't like you saw a black act and all of a sudden that the white act came on. it was a wonderful integration, it was all natural. people grew up thinking and saying, it's all the same, it's all wonderful, so we can like any of the music that we want to. i think that's the thing that dick clark gave the world, he enabled them to understand that they can love all the music, no matter where it comes from. >> it's totally great and i hope that really gets re-enforced over the next few days as we remember him because it was increditly important and brave thing that dick clark pioneered there. debbie let me come back to you, you hosted the -- every

generation seemed to love dick clark, what was it about him that made him so universally popular. >> i think it was what the guys were saying, he didn't put his own opinion, he really represented the music that america loved and wanted to hear. i remember as a very young teenager seeing madonna on the show, it was that he was like a fudy duddy gloss over hope that was just going to put these pristine acts on the show. he dug into what real americans wanted to hear. and i this that's what really made him who he was. he introduced all kinds of music to people and he was just versatile, he loved it all and he was so respectful, i know that like as a teenager, for instance, a lot of people were very quick to kind of -- act condescending towards me if you

will, i actually hosted the american music awards, i remember him acts as a professional and very nurturing and very respectful. >> he was a great man, i think in many ways. z debbie gibson, thank you, we're coming back after the break to talk about dick clark's impact on television and music. ♪ ♪

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hey, thank you very much. welcome to the new $25,000 pyramid. >> the $25,000 pyramid, the game show hosted by dick clark, he was a pioneer of american pop culture, joining me exclusively from the "new york times," gentlemen welcome. let me start with you, bill, put into context for me, dick clark's business brain and his phenomenal tvr output it's afternoon incredible number of productions that he did. but it was american -- he realized that there was a market in teenaged viewers, nobody had ever done that before and it really changed television because it introduced to abc that was struggling at the time the fact that they could go for

a young youth market that nobody had done before and it really invent eed demographics in television. nobody approached it in that way that you could just go after young viewers, so they went more for shows based on the fact that american bandstand network. >> and brian, dick clark said i don't make culture, i sell it. dick clark productions became a multimillion dollar company. he was valued at more than $100 million. he was really as larry king and others said earlier pretty unique and pretty irreplaceable, wasn't he? >> he was sprinkling, you know, this magical dust of sorts across television with award shows and reality shows and game shows. and i think that may have been what was so surprising to younger viewers, people that knew him from new year's eve on abc. to realize that he had his hands in all of these different game shows over the years. game shows like "$25,000

pyramid" versions of which we still have on the air today. >> there's a brilliant secret to the new year's extravaganza. he filmed a lot of it in august. >> that's one of the most amazing things is that because the big stars weren't necessarily going to be available on new year's eve, he made a deal where they would show up at a studio in hollywood in august dressed in their new year's eve gowns and pretend the dance part was actually taking place. it was actually in august and they were in these sweaty, hot outfits. they performed and then that would show up on the show as though it was live. >> quite amazing. brian stelter, people are saying how do you replace dick clark? he's been quite unwell for some time. but people say that ryan seacrest is the nearest to dick clark. would you go along with that? >> i think people say he's the

closest and larry king said that dick clark was a great generalist. that's the word that people use for ryan seacrest as well. he's been on new year's eve for almost a decade now and he's taking more and more of a role every year. he said he'd be a side kick for as long as dick clark wanted to be on the show. it was notable when they did a two-hour retrospective about dick clark's last 40 years of the show. it felt like his show. he would only do e-mails because of the condition his voice. he certainly seemed to suggest that it could be his last show. it doesn't mean to imply that he knew that he may pass away soon, but he certainly may have sensed that he wasn't going to be on new year's eve for much longer. >> yeah. >> i think it's interesting, piers, when you talk about replacing, it's impossible to replace a guy who started when television started. heed at the opportunity -- he had the opportunities that no one else is going to have again.

it's like saying who's the next beatles, because he was able to enter the void. he jumped into every opportunity he could find including inventing the american music awards which really took the place of the grammys for a while because the grammys didn't know how to respond to the youth music. he was very on top of opportunities like that. >> his growth mirrored the growth of television. he understood the importance of live television. live tv is more important than ever. i remember last september, my friend has having a party without a tv set and we hooked it up to watch dick clark. i can't imagine a new years eve without pill. >> yeah. very true. >> and he became the institution you had to see. i can't see another person getting that stature. it's not going to happen again. >> no, i think it's -- the word great is often used often wrongly and so is the word irreplaceable.

but i think we've lost a true great tonight and someone who's going to turn out to be irreplaceable. thank you both very much. is. >> thanks. coming up, only in america, remembering the extraordinary dick clark who got emotional himself when he was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame in 1993. >> you did it. oh. i had a speech. i've got to get ahold of myself. [ gnome ] enjoying your holiday?

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tonight only in america, i want to pay my own personal tribute to the late great dick clark. few people have had a more profound influence than this charming new yorker with a cheeky smile and perennial twinkle in his eye. from "american bandstand" to the specials, he was a constant and welcome fixture for more than a half a century and he became one of the best loved tv presenters in history. he dismissed what he did saying i have been a fluffmeister for a long time.

but he was so much more than that. dick clark spotted and nurtured and inspired more young musical talent than arguably anybody else before or since. his shows became the place to be if you wanted tock -- to be credible or have success. if dick clark wanted you, then everybody else would want you too. he broke down race barriers when many considered that a gamble. he was not only a genius, but a brave and bold genius. at the same time, dick clark remained a man who lived a normal, quint essentially normal life. my greatest asset in my life was i never lost touch with hot dogs, hamburger, going to the fair and hanging out at the mall. this was that common touch that enabled him to know distincti distinctively what many wanted to hear and watch for more than six decades. i can think of no better way to end this tribute show than by showing clips from three iconic performances on dick clark's "american bandstand" starting

jer jerry lee louis and the beach boys and each owes a great debt to dick clark. ♪ you shake my nerves and rattle my brain ♪ ♪ ♪ what is real, crazy, great balls of fire ♪ ♪ ♪ you came along, you can move me honey ♪ ♪ and crazy, great balls of fire ♪ ♪ ♪ and she said, don't worry, baby ♪ ♪ don't worry, baby don't worry baby ♪ ♪ don't worry, baby ♪ walk around this town and