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children to be there. but what it did say is that nadya suleman needs some help. >> and one toilet. >> yeah, she needs some help. >> interesting stuff. thank you. pleasure meeting you. first time working together. good info. hope to see you around a lot more. appreciate it. >> thanks so much. >> all right. >> all right, this story defies understanding. a 5-year-old boy is abducted -- okay, that's bad. but not so out of the ordinary. but in this case, the boy was abducted from a hospital where he was op a waiting list for a heart transplant no less. police say his abductors were his dad and his grandmother. the boy has been found and he is safe. but his dad and graham have plenty to answer for now. the boy is from kansas city. he's in the hospital in st. louis and he's found outside chicago. help us understand this.
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why was he in st. louis? and how did he get grabbed from what should be a secure area? >> those are all good questions. he was in st. louis because he's on a transplant list for a heart defect. he suffers from a hardening and thickening of heart muscles. we're told by family members that he's got a leaky valve, too. he was admitted into the hospital in st. louis on friday because he had fluid in his lungs, hence his presence at barnes hot. his father then visited several days later, i believe it was on monday when he made a visit to the hospital. that is not confirmed, but it was several days after his mom and 35-year-old porter got admitted to the hospital that his father got there. and yesterday, his father went there to take him and go to the pharmacy to get prescriptions. when his father made a call to tiffany stone, which is porter's mom and said i'm leaving with
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him. so a scary situation given the fact that he should have never, according to family members been able to leave that hospital. >> so then what now? does porter stone lose his place on the transplant list? where do things stand there? >> that was the question i had all this morning. what i understood from not only the family but what little i have been able to get from the hospital is that he will not be taken off that transplant list nor will he lose his place. just found out about an hour ago that tiffany stone, porter's mom is due to fly to chicago from st. louis at 7:30 this evening. she is at the st. louis airport right now awaiting a flight, hoping to get an earlier flight out, potentially flying stand-by to hopefully be reunited with her son. the good news here is that he has been cleared by doctors at barnes hospital as well as
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physicians here in kansas city to fly straight home to kansas city and make his way just north of kansas city to his home in st. joseph, missouri. >> so that was my question. so porter is doing okay now? >> he is. you know, i spoke with family earlier this morning and i just spoke with his soon-to-be aunt when she had gotten off his phone with his mother earlier this morning. his mother a bit nervous because porter being 5 years old so saw the arrest of his father at the hotel where have the authorities from the illinois state police department as well as police officers from the village just southwest of the chicago suburbs, or chicago town, if you will, had to take him into custody. they had to break down the door of the motel. 5-year-old porter stone seeing this go down. he's nervous. they're stick him with needles in the hospital. as you can imagine. no family members are around, so he was telling his mom that they were abusing him.
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in reality, they were trying to help him out. >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. i've got a question for you. if the federal government fails to carry out one oof its constitutional duties, can states step in? that's a question before the supreme court of the united states versus arizona. lots of folks gathered outside the high court as it heard the case this morning. arizona and now a number of other states contend they've had to act on their own on illegal immigration because the feds have failed. here's a come from mississippi outside the supreme court. >> we have got people that are hungry and starving that are u.s. citizens. we do nothing about it. absolutely nothing. if they want to be here, go through the process. go through the process. i have no problem if they go through the process. but jumping borders, i have a problem.
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>> kate baldwin with us now from washington. you heard the arguments before the high court. how did that go? >> it was a very interesting day in the courtroom. as you know, don, but just to make sure, we have this arizona law meant to crack down on illegal immigration. the obama administration is fighting that law, challenging that. and the question of who shub ensforsing illegal immigration laws, it was the big question here today before the supreme court. i'll tell you from being in the courtroom, it did appear the federal government faced quite a bit of an uphill battle and faced some trouble specifically from the conservative majority as it appeared they were at least somewhat sympathetic. i would say, they seemed surprisingly sympathetic towards arizona ease argument which could indicate they were leaning towards upholding at least part of that law. most of the -- some of the toughest questions, don, really focused on one of the more controversial provisions in that law, the provision that requires
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that law enforcement, that they dhek people's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion they're in the country illegally, if ear doing it in the course of enforcing other laws, if this person had already been stopped. so it seemed that the justices did have some sympathy and did think the state, arizona's argument that where the federal government has failed, they need to step in. >> elena kagan has refuse accused herself from the case. you've got eight justices here, an even number. that means there could be a tie. what if there is a tie? >> it is unusual. it's not unheard of, but it is unusual. they're not talking nine justices hearing the kats, they're talking eight justices hearing the case. elen that kagan was involved in the early stages of this challenge when she was at the justice department just before taking to the supreme court bench. if there is a 4-4 split, the
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lower court ruling would stand and that means practically speaking the four controversial provisions that are in question before the court, including the one i just deskricribe earlier, they would not, would not be implemented. but on the flip side, that also means there wouldn't be a press dent here in the case. other states considering similar legislation could move forward with their legislation. >> see that man on the screen, his name is russell pearce. i'm going to be speaking to one of the authors of the law. and still ahead, new revelations about al qaeda's plans to attack here in america. is turns out september 11 was only the beginning. but one terrorist says he chickened out. plus, a bombshell in the mystery over the mystery of madeline mccann's days peerns. oh!
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>> al qaeda was planning to crash the u.s. economy with more attacks in the weeks after. this is all straight from the mouth of convicted kwul operative. he was testifying by video at a trial for one of the men accused of plotting to bomb the new york subway system in 2009. who is this guy? >> he's a british al qaeda terrorist operative who was convict pptd and weeks after 9/11, he was tasked by al qaeda to blow up a u.s. pound padgett with a shoe bomb.
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you'll recall in 2001 there was an attempted attack from richard reed to blow up a padgett. badat revealed in court that he was conspiring with reed, he was conspireing with al qaeda and al qaeda's plan just a few weeks after 9/11 was to blow up two u.s.-bound padgetts simultaneously. now, badat actually backed down away from the operation and he was subsequently arrested. don? >> he says he came face to face with bin laden. what did he say bin laden said to him? >> he met just the two of them in a room and bin laden said he wanted to launch another attack by the united states. by attacking u.s. aviation, bringing down u.s. aviation, he believed that you could bring down the whole u.s. economy, don? >> what is badat's testimony tell us about al qaeda's trat
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strath ji following 9/11, paul? >> it shows that in the weeks after 9/11, al qaeda was an emboldened organization. they felt they could lunch a knockout blow against the united states. reed the shoe bomber became pretty close to being successful. he got on to the airplane. it was only when passengers saw he was trying to light a fuse that he was able to avert that attack. al qaeda tried to launch attacks in padgetts. and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has twice tried to attack u.s. aviation. they remain fixated on this. >> he gave details about a number of other rop rations. where were these attacks supposed to happen? >> he did reveal more operations that al qaeda was trying to put
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into operation. for example an attack against airliners in southeast asia, another hijacking. he actually traveled out of afghanistan with a group of militants and they were going to go launch that strike. eventually, that plot did not materialize. he also described a plot against jewish targets in south africa, which they were hoping to put to place after 9/1 1 and a plot against a u.s. nay co base in belgium, don. >> all right, interesting information there. >> more news unfolding right now. rapid fire, roll it. >> all right, moving to congressional hearings on the sex stannal that's already cost nine agents their jobs. here's janet thnapolitano testifying before a senate hearing explaining what she expects of the agency's director. >> one was to make sure the president's security was never at risk.
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>> two was to make sure that we instituted a prompt and thorough investigation into the actual allegations in colombia. and three, what other steps we need to take for the future to make sure which behavior is not repe repeated. >> watch for newt gingrich to end his white house bid soon. >> pay your fair share! >> protesters get noisy at the gm annual shareholders meeting. it stems from reports that ge pays no corporate taxes and hasn't for year. a ge spokesman says the corporation complies with tax laws and paid $2.6 billion.
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>> british police say they have information that lead them to believe madeline mccann may still be alive. she eefs the 3-year-old girl that disappeared in portugal in 2007. her ninth birthday is next month. actor russell brand testifies about drugs. you've got to hear him. plus a texas couple smeared online. their business ruined. they have to leave their home of 20 years. now justice is served to the tune of $13 million this case impacts you and what you say online. stay tuned. cuban cajun raw seafood pizza parlor french fondue tex-mex fro-yo tapas puck chinese takeout taco truck free range chicken pancake stack baked alaska 5% cash back. right now, get 5% cash back at restaurants.
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>> we got answers to your financial questions. thank you both for coming in. carmen, your question today comes from susan in california. sus susan in, we have a mortgage at 5.9% and have been paying for ten years. should we refinance or continue with the mortgage they now have. >> if they want to stay there if for five or ten years, that's great. don't forget, when you refie there are koss involved. you need to be able to stay there long enough to recoup all of those lost costs. but 5.9, very exfencive. >> in this environment. >> at the worst case, she would
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probably qualify for 4.5. but make sure, you already put ten years in, make it a 20 year. don't give up those years. >> your question comes from jim in texas. i want to pay off my credit cards and build my emergency fund. what percent of my income should i devote to each? >> paying down credit card dret in the current investment environment is preebl the best investment anyone can make. if nevada a high interest credit card which most people have, they'll be able to lend you more at anytime. i'll be most towards your credit cards. sho should be the major focus. you can't get that interest rate anywhere else. if it's a high interest rate, there will be a lot of people lining up to lend you again. >> bravo to him for wanting to pay down liz cards if you have questions you want answered, go to cnn.com.
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>> this is fair warning to all your on line. 14 million suing for linebacker bell. they were acquitted in 2009 of raping a woman pu before they were cleared, anonymous online users claimed them as sexual dooef yents. they submitted 800 libellous online posts after tracking down the i.p. addresses. they won in court and the star kel graph reports it turns out one of those ordered to pay is a woman who accused them of rape.
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this should freak out anyone who thinks they could hide behind the internet. >> they should be freaked out. i think people do things and say things, type things on the internet they wouldn't say to a person face to face, that they certainly wouldn't send a letter to a person. they think they're shrouded by anonymity. we should know by now in this digital age that nothing goes away. what happened in this case is it didn't go away. the addresses were linked to folks making these statements and they were pulled to task on it. bottom line, though, no one is protected from saying things that are harmful. so many people say it's freedom of speech.
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your ip address in order to make the comment, it's not anonymous. >> but let's face it, if you want to sue someone, you've got to go to court, get an attorney, subpoena those ip addresses. that's why people are so cavalier. but again, slander, libel, you can be held responsible for things that are not factual, things that are lies. and things certainly that are harmful. >> do you hear that? i hear that. this one is very complicated. a dap mat released after blowing a 0.126 on a breathalyzer. police in an atlanta suburb say the vice counselor of the mexican consulate general there was clocked, 91 miles an hour, doing 91 miles an hour in a 65-mile-an-hour zone.
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the police said he could not be arrested but issued as citations. we have only heard about diplomatic immunity on crimes like "crimes and punishment." >> diplomatic immunity has been around forever. there are some things that can be done. i've done some research on this. i've gotten so many e-mails about this particular case. perhaps mexico can waive his diplomatic immunity and charge
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him in mexico. the united states can say you know what, you need to be recalled by mexico back to mexico. and so there are some things that can happen, but will he be charged? will we see him in a courtroom facing a dui charge? that's not going to happen. >> this makes me think of dominique strauss-kahn. we were didn't talking about diplomatic immunity. >> it didn't apply to him. he wasn't necessarily a diplomatic. diplomatic immunity is alive and well. >> we weren't able to get a response from the diplomat or the consular general in atlanta. but he could be charged in mexico. >> perhaps. unlikely, but -- >> he would have been arrested. >> we would have been. yes. >> thank you very much. good to see you in person. >> good to see you. >> i always see you through the teleprompter. >> see ya. okay, still ahead, homeland security director janet napolitano reveals whether the
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obam that cabinet member in the hot seat over a secret service scandal. a media mogul trying to distance himself from shady practices at his newspapers and the federal reserve is looking into its crystal ball. janet napolitano testifying. >> she was clear right out of the gate that she finds this conduct inappropriate and unacceptable. she used a combination of those
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words half a dozen times. >> let me be clear. we will not allow the actions of a few to tarnish the proud legacy of the secret service. an agency that has served numerous presence and whose men and women execute their mission with great professionalism, honor and integrity every single day. >> her ajs was no, the president was never in dang. and the second question, is this cultural? is this systemic? her answer was we're not sure yet, but they're investigating to see if that was the case. >> in london, rue better murdoch
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faced a hacking scandal within his media empire. rupert murdoch, arguably the rerl's most powerful media mogul was back in london to be grilled about hacking and media eting es. he was asked about his influence over successive prime ministers over the past 30 years or so. he denied being the power behind the throne for margaret thatcher but did admit to meeting her in secret in 1961 while he was negotiating a controversial deal to buy two more british newspapers. he also described phone hacking as a lazy way for reporters to do their job. that's something he'll be quizzed on again tomorrow when he's back before lord justice leverson, heading this inquiry into press ethics. he also consistently denied pushing news corp.'s commercial interests in his newspaper. >> i take particularly strong pride in the fact that we've never pushed our commercial interests in our newspapers. >> that was really the thrust of
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most of the questioning during the five-plus hours that he was seated before lord justice, insisting he never swapped favorable press coverage for politicians in return for commercial pen benefits. >> all right, dan river, thank you very much. next, alison kosik, there she is in new york. the federal reserve, putting out a forecast now for the economy. i hope there's some optimism here. >> there's a little more optimism, don. the fed does believe the economy is improving. it's not changing its game plan until it sees the economy make a divisive move one way or another. they're optimisting about unemployment, predicting the rate could fall between 7.8% and 8% by the end of this year. remember, unemployment is at 8.2% now. also, the picture is a bit brighter for economic growth. the fed expecting growth to pick up gradually with growth this year expected to come in between
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2.4% and 2.9%. it would be an improvement over 1.7% last year. another thing the fed did is they kept interest rates at historic lows near 0. bhu ben bernanke did say there is a bit of a wild card. that is europe and sort of the blow ball financial markets and what kind of impact. that is really a wild card in all of these predictions. >> the vice chairman of the walmart reooined but not of walmart? >> right, he resigned from a 3w0rd that he sits at on met life. but apparently he doesn't have day to day responsen'ts. he's retiring on july first as planned. walmart is moving forward with
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its own internal investigation. walmart shares continue to fall. investors are not sure about what the deal and financials are. it's all about damage control after these allegations to cut through all the red tape and make it easier to get the walmarts built in mexico, but you're seeing in some sort of way that heads are beginning to roll. >> that's today's "reporter roulet roulette." a dad can't understand bhie his autistic son is misbehaving in school until he puts a wireless mike on the child. you won't believe what the dad hears when the child comes home. it's all recorded. we're going to play it for you next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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a 10-year-old with autism, tough for the kid and the parents in the best of time. but miss teacher became baffled after teachers told him the boy was lashing out, even throwing chairs. he said he was baffled because while his son haed anxiety from the autism, he never acted viole violent. and to figure out what was going on, he fut a recording device on his son. the language isn't always nice in this story. this is just a bit of what that dad heard.
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>> a teacher calling a 10-year-old kid with autism that name. the father took the recording to school officials in cherry hill new jersey. and just to make sure it didn't get ignored, he made a 17-minute youtube video that he called teacher bully, how my son was humiliated and tormented by his teacher and aide. this is one mad dad. that's the horror of it. it was his aid and his teacher to protect him and they destroyed him. >> the individuals heard on those recordings no longer work for the district. >> a georgia teenager was going to a party and ended upbeaten to death. the injuries were so bad his heart was punctured by a rib. well, today one of the four people accused of killing tillman cut a deal. duffy dixon from our atlanta
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affiliate has the teenagers for you. >> it just hurts. >> mo nique rivard saying even now two years later, she cannot make sense of his death. >> i lay awakened. it's another day i face without bobby. >> he pleaded guilty to the murder of tillman, admitting that he led a group offage stated young men outside a house party into the street. looking for someone, anyone to beat up. bobby tillman just happen ed to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. >> he received life in prison for the possibility of parole. i saw shame and guilt and remorse. a lot of people are remorseful and sorry after they commit a crime. i just he would have had those
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the justices seem sympathetic to arizona's argument that the federal government has failed to control illegal immigration and thus, arizona has had to act on its own. among its controversial provisions struck down by a lower court are the mandate to police to check people's papers if they suspect they may be in the u.s. illegally. as we mentioned, justice elen that kagan has recused herself from the case because as solicitor general, she took a side on it. that means you've got eight justices, an even number. so theoretically, there might be a 4-4 tie. should that be the case, four of the law's most controversial provisions would be invalidated because the lower court has struck them down. joining me now from washington is one of tauthors of the arizo law, russell pearce. thank you for joining us. we know you're very busy and understand right now you're in an airport.
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how did it go for your side? >> i'm having a hard time hearing you. >> how do you think things went before the justices for your side? >> the police powers, arizona's right to protect jobs. we fought the justice very hard for inventing fiction about preemption. i thought we did really well. it was pretty clear to me. section 2 and section 3, 5 and 6 were the sections under -- you don't hear in the media. but 60% of the sb-1070 is in effect. they only adjoined four sections and those were pretty clear that
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i think all of it would be -- the 5-3 decision on all of them. even sotamayor made it very clear. she said move on, you're not making your case. if it ends'7" before the supreme court, any provision of the law that you with wrote, did it feel risky for you in terms of its constitutionality? >> absolutely i anticipated. we went all that battle. their arguments were about
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preemption and arizona turning into the federal government's arena. the states have never been preempted. the courts ruled on that for 40 years. so i'm very confident and i would grateful to hear the justices speak out the way they did on the fact that the d.o.j. was reaching to try to defend their position. >> pearce, i understand you're optimistic, you said it over and over during this interview. but i have to ask you here, what happens if the law is struck down?
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the government is preempted from preempting the states in terms of the limiting law. so we don't really need it. but unfortunately, shouldn't need it. but unfortunately you do need it because the facilitates continue that policy to restrict these laws that are unconstitutional all by itself. i don't anticipate that, but certainly that's an option if we think we need to go back. >> you have time to go back and strategize? >> this is a state's right more than anything else. arizona's right to enforce this law. arizona's right to protect itself citizen and jobs. and i think the court will uphold the law. i'm very confident, like i said repeatedly. if something else surprises us,
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we'll have to deal with that. i look forward to a win. we'll have all the parts even greater than on section 2. >> you're having a tough time hearing us, you're traveling in an airport. >> i'm sorry. >> that's okay. we appreciate you joining us. thank you very much. a bounty hunter bases bail hunters in new orleans and warns, if he comes after you, game over. my conversation next. then in british parliament, russell brand is invited to testify about drugs and things get awkward. t what's with you?
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about. you're about to meet the man and he's labeled the all-around bounty man in the big ease, new orleans. and here's what gene, tattoo is, you'll figure out who it is, just watch for the arms. >> i've got him! >> i'm taking him on foot. ♪ ♪ get down on the ground! get down on the [ bleep ] ground! >> he's over there. he's running. don't move! get down on the ground! don't move, dude. >> don't move, dude. he told me he averages about five bail jumpers a day. >> it's definitely worse since katrina. basically since katrina hit basically everybody was displaced. when everybody was put back, the good with the bad, the neighborhoods were put together and everybody was combined and so then you took the neighborhoods that had the most
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crime and put it in the neighborhood that had no crime and so now every neighborhood had crime more so than it did before. >> what's your -- i'm sure you've had pretty scary experiences. what's the scariest for you? >> i mean, we've been shot at. i've had my head split open. there have been several things that have happened since we've been doing it, but i leave it all if god's hands. whatever happens happens. >> bounty hunters, they have to do a lot of talking, too. sometimes you're almost like therapists. let's watch another clip and then we'll talk about it. >> this drinking and driving he's doing is basically attempted murder. you have 18 different -- do you realize they can throw you under the jail right now for 18 traffic charges? i'll help you out so you don't lose your job, but you've got to promise me you're going to try, because if not, i'm going to fight with everything i have to get you put into rehab. >> you're like a counselor. >> yea. sometimes we have to be.
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that clip was there was a guy that i actually went to high school with and now he actually has two jobs and quit drinking. >> thacker says he's nabbed 12,000 fugitives in his 12 years bounty hunting. "the situation room" with mr. wolf blitzer coming up on cnn. wolf has a preview, big night for mitt romney and newt gingrich. newt gingrich about to call it quits after a tough campaign for him. we have full analysis of what's going on on the political front. also, i have an interview with madeleinal brooit, the former secretary. she speaks about part of the life that was hidden from her during and after world war ii. until she reached the age of 59 she was about to become secretary of state of the united states she did not know that her parents were jewish, that she lost jewish relatives in the holocaust. she's now written a new book about that, and a whole lot
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more. that interview coming up in the next hour. and in our 5:00 p.m. eastern hour a story that has shocked me. it's a stunning development. imagine this, don, a country that receives billions and billions of dollars in u.s. assistance. we're talking about afghanistan. hamid karzai tells the secretary of state of the united states that an american congressman is not welcome to visit that country. dana rohrabacher, he's here, congressman of california, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. he was barred from going to afghanistan by karzai and the u.s. at the highest levels went along with it. what's going on here? it's a pretty shocking story and we'll have details in our 5:00 p.m. eastern hour. >> wow! can't wait to see that. thank you, wolf. appreciate it. now this. >> you were a heroin addict. >> yea. >> briefly, can you tell us how you got on to drugs and how you managed to come off it and how many years you were on hard
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drugs. >> i see you've incorporated the word briefly now into the question. as you know it's my propensity for -- >> that's russell brand and he testifies about drugs, but things got a little bit bizarre as you'd expect. we will see the reaction and hear what the actor revealed. it's very entertaining. you don't want to miss it. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb
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in your breakfast cereal, what is? now, in every box of general mills big g cereal, there's more whole grain than any other ingredient. that's why it's listed first. get more whole grain than any other ingredient... just look for the white check. comedian russell brand getting serious or as serious as he can be. brand testified at a parliament committee hearing on britain's
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drug laws. the committee wasn't sure what to make of brand who says he beat heroin addiction and has been clean for nine years, but it made for some of the most fascinating testimony in front of parliament since rupert murdoch was hit with a pie. watch this. >> hello. >> hello. >> good morning, mr. brand. >> good morning. >> please have a seat. mr. brand, with the evidence to the committee's inquiry into drugs. mr. russell brand, you gave evidence, which members of the committee have read. you were a full heroin addict? >> yea. >> briefly, could you tell us how you knot on to drugs and how you managed to come off it and how many years you were on hard drugs? >> i see you've incorporated the word briefly now into the question. as you already know it's my prop
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pencity of briefs onity. i was on drugs for difficulties and perhaps a spiritual maldee upon. for me, taking drugs and excessive drinks were a result of psychological, spiritual momentum condition, and it was symptomatic. i was s.a.t. sad, lonely, unhappy, detached and drugs and alcohol to me seemed like this illusion. >> you were arrested roughly 12 times -- >> it was rough, yes. >> by the police. >> and the justice system. do you think that when with you were arrested that you had the kind of support that you needed? >> there's some confusion and ignorance around addiction. it's quite understandable because a lot of drug addicts, speaking personally, are anti-social. they are estranged to society. they necessarily engage in criminal activity. they're a public nuisance in many ways. i felt when i was arrested the police would do the necessary job of rc
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