security, the fbi, and the u.s. military's northern command put out this intelligence bulletin and sent it around to various law enforcement agencies, again, warning about the threat to aviation, specifically from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. that is the most active al qaeda group. they have already tried to attack two u.s. bound jetliners in the last few years. president obama also met with his national security team today and he was briefed on some of these potential threats heading into next week. >> you mentioned next week. this is all coming up now because next week it will be a year since the death of bin laden? >> that's right. there have been various postings on the violent extremist websites, one talked about atalking the piers morgan on may 2nd and later about targeting defense secretary leon panetta. overall, they feel that these plots right now are just

aspirational, not specifically in the works. as for the home grown extremists, those already right here in the united states, the intelligence estimates say this date, this anniversary so to speak may hold some value to them, but they don't think it is enough to make them accelerate their plots. in other words, if they got some plat and they're on a timetable, they're not going to scrap their timetable just to make this deadline. >> okay. chris lawrence in the piers morgan. appreciate it. . >> once it has absolutely nothing to do with abortion, birth control or gay marriage. this is about the budget, specifically the one created by republican congressman paul ryan that passed the house. today ryan who is catholic spoke at the georgetown university. the reception he received was a bit chilly. ryan claims his faith guided his budget cuts, but nearly 90 of the school's faculty members and priests sent him a letter ahead

of the appearance telling ryan he better go back and read his bible. they wrote, quote, we roob remiss if we did not chal cheng your continuing misuse of catholic teaching to defend a budget plan that decimates food plans for struggling families and gives more tax breaks to the wealthiest few. here is just one aspect of the congressman's budget that they disagree with. it would cut funding for food stamps by about $133 billion over the course of ten years. ryan took the stage today as planned. >> i suppose there are some catholics who for a long time thought they had a monopoly of sorts. not exactly on heaven, but on the social teaching of our church, of course there can be differences among faithful catholics on this. the work i do as a catholic holding office conforms to the social doctrine as best i can make of it.

>> father thomas reece signed the letter criticizing ryan, a senior fellow at georgetown. father reece, i may ask you here looking and i was watching you listening to the sound bite and you were smiling. why? >> we were delighted to have the congressman on campus because it gave us an opportunity to talk about how our faith should impact our lives in public arena. you know, i was watching that wonderful film you showed of that little girl growing up. i was thinking of the thousands of and thousands of children in our country that go to bed hungry, that go to bed depending on federal lunch programs in schools. this is what mr. ryan is going to cut out of his budget. this is why we think the budget is a moral document because it really has an impact on people. >> father reece, be more specific. you mention lunch plans. what else exactly do you object to in this particular budget?

>> well, he is also of course cutting pell grants. our school depends on pell grants for to help low income students and this is true of colleges across the country. they depend, low income students depend on pell grants to help them pay their tuition bills, and again this program is cutting them. these are the programs that help people get educated so they can get a good job. government helps give them a hand up so that they can take care of themselves. >> now, it is the church, though, helping the poor. isn't that what the church is really for, not necessarily the government because we heard an interview with congressman ryan recently and other conservatives agree, they don't want the poor to be dependent on some of these handouts. are catholic organizations perhaps shirking their own duty to help out the poor instead? >> well, the catholic church is the largest charity in the united states. it does more to reach out to

help people in homeless shelters and housing, food bapg banks and soup kitchens. we're doing all we can to help the poor, and still more and more people are coming. this has been something conservatives have been saying for years, somehow they're going to cut the budget and then the churches will take over. this is crazy. we don't have that kind of money to take care of all of the poor people in our country. >> your letter, father, accuses congressman ryan of misusing catholic teachings to justify his budget cuts. my question is, then, does that make the congressman a bad catholic? >> oh, no, no, no. i mean, somebody asked me this morning would i give the congressman communion. absolutely. you know, i am not judging his motives or his interior spiritual life. you know, the catholic church is a big tent, and we can have

disagreements between people in it, but we feel that we should voice our view that, you know, when jesus said i will judge you by whether you fed the hungry and gave drink to the thirsty and clothed the naked, that means the budget, too. >> are you not judging the fact that the congressman has come forward and said based upon my catholic teachings, you know, i based a lot of this budget plan upon that and that is precisely what you disagree with yet you do say he is a good catholic. >> yeah. we disagree on our interpretation of what the catholic faith is calling him to. i mean, he makes the point that he doesn't want big government intervening in the lives of people. we don't either. i mean, our teaching has always said that action should take place at the lowest level of society possible. so if a family can deal with it its issues, great, we don't want government intervening. if local government can take care of it, fine, we don't want the federal government intervening but only to the

extent it is possible. families are at their witt's end. local governments are laying off teachers and firemen and police. how can they help the people that really need help today? >> sure. we hear from families as well. a lot of people are certainly frustrated. final question just 15 second, do you find comfort in the fact this version of the budget plan will likely not pass this senate? >> well, you know, i wish we could deal with the congress the way we elect popes, lock them all in the room and don't let them out until they make a budget and if they don't do it within a week, put them on bread and water. >> i don't know if they would agree to that one, father reece. that's an idea. father thomas reece, joining me from washington. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, you can't bring a big bottle of shampoo but somehow coke, meth, and pot get through the security line at one of america's biggest airports. find out how. plus, explosive new developments in the secret service scandal. we're now hearing reports of

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ciro in seattle is reporting a dozen went to the strip club in el salvador in 2011 and days before the president was supposed to be visiting there and also hired women for sexual favors. this information is coming from a government contractor who is not identified. i want to bring in brian todd in washington. brian, the secret service, very much responding to the latest allegations. what are they saying? >> the secret service in response specifically to that kiro report said this, the recent investigation in cartagena generated several news story that is contain allegations by mostly unnamed sources and any information brought to our attention that can be assessed as credible will be followed up on in an appropriate manner. i am told separately by a congressional source, though, brooke, who says that the secret service has indicated that it is looking into that el salvador incident, according to a source

i have spoken to that goes beyond what that statement says there. we're also told by a congressional source as well to back up some of what you said earlier, that there have been reports that have been brought to congress of past incidents involving the secret service. some of this may be just getting into the open right now. >> tell me, brian, what more we know about what these secret service reportedly did in el salvador last year. >> we have to stress this is according to the report on kiro tv, a cnn affiliate, according to their source, a u.s. government contractor who worked extensively on that he will sal have dor trip in march 2011 with a secret service advance team, the source said he was with about a dozen secret service agents and a few u.s. military specialists at a strip club and in the city of san salvador a few days before the president arrive and had according to the source they drank heavily at the club and paid extra for access to a vichlt pi section where they were provided sexual favors

in return for cash. kiro says the owner of the club corroborated that source's contentions in this case and confirmed that a large number of secret service agents and military escorts, quote, descended on this club that week and were there at least three nights in a row. cnn cannot independently confirm the allegations. that is from kiro tv. >> okay. earlier this week secretary of defense addressed how three marines lost their jobs last year after an incident with a prostitute. tell me about that one, throwing a prostitute out of an embassy car in brazil? >> that point of that, brooke, is in contention right now. the secret service spokesman reiterated she doesn't have information that the woman was actually thrown from the car. according to the state department there was some kind of argument inside a vehicle, a woman exited the car, the car door was closed, the woman tried to get back in and fell. that is according to the state

department. this did involve a three u.s. marines and one person who is a u.s. embassy staffer in the brazilian capitol and it was in december of 2011. the nutshell is they got into some kind of argument, a dispute with a prostitute over something in a vehicle. the woman exited the vehicle. what happened then is a little bit in dispute, whether she was run over or whether she injured herself trying to get back in the car. >> we have some of the sound, brian. take a listen together. >> obviously this incident was fully investigated and those that were involved have been punished and held accountable. they are no longer in this country. they were reduced in rank. they were severely punished for that behavior. i have no tolerance for that kind of conduct. >> so there was secretary of defense panetta.

brian, i assume you're working on this today. >> we are, brooke. to add what secretary panetta said, the state department has told us the one u.s. embassy staffer also has been removed from the post in brazilia, so clearly coming to light and we'll look into this and the broader allegations involving the secret service as well. >> okay. look for your reporting on situation room coming up later on. brian todd, appreciate it. still ahead, the feds say tsa agents took bribes to allow drugs through the security line. i am talking cocaine, methamphetamine, marijuana, you will hear from someone who broke this story wide open. plus, raping women as a sport? cnn speaks with a self confessed rapist in a place where a woman is reportedly raped every 26 seconds. 26 seconds. that's next. [ male announcer ] aggressive styling. a more fuel-efficient turbocharged engine. and a completely redesigned interior.

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time for the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me, greg olson, a certified financial planner and lynn net cox, the founder of financial advice blog ask the money coach.com. thank you very much for being here. we appreciate it. greg, first question for you comes from tom in ohio. he wrote in his pension plan has $200,000 in it but he is $25,000 in credit card debt. he wants to know if he should use money from pension to pay off credit cards. >> no. >> the first thing that will happen is he will have to pay income tax on whatever he withdraw from his pension plan and then also have to pay a 10% penalty depending on what income tax bracket he is in, he could have to take up to $50,000 out of the pension plan to pay off

the 25,000. much better idea would be to switch to the lowest interest rate credit card he could find even if it is an introductory rate, and after that introductory rate is over, six or 12 months, switch to the next lowest interest rate you can possibly find. do that game. >> lynette, your question is from jill from new york. she and her husband got a copy of their krart report and it shows three collections. how can they get them paid off and get expunged from the report. >> she can pay them off. just paying them doesn't mean it is automatically removed from the credit record. it is one of the downsides to people that pay off debt and do the right thing but the fact is under the law negative information like a collection can stay on your credit report up to seven years. simply playing it off won't automatically remove it. you can negotiate and reach out to the company you owe and ask whether or not they would agree to delete the information from all three credit reports. there is no guarantee. they may jess do it. it doesn't automatically happen.

>> once it is there, it is there. thank you very much. we appreciate it. if you have a question, send us a aan e-mail any time.

we're learning that the widows of osama bin laden are leaving pakistan. they have been staying in detention. the attorney for two of the widows and two daughters tells cnn they're leaving pakistan tonight for saudi arabia. we were just pointing out we're about on the year anniversary of the death of osama bin laden. that's next week. now to cocaine and marijuana and methamphetamine, pounds and pounds going through the

screening line at lax and tsa ats didn't catch it because they were allegedly turning a blind eye. four lax agents, current and former for tsa, agents current and former, under arrest at this hour accused of accepting thousands of dollars in bribes to look the other way when drug couriers came through. victoria kim is a reporter with the l.a. times and helped burs the story wide open and explained how the whole scheme really actually worked. >> oftentimes the person who was coordinating would give the screener a cell phone to communicate with the courier the night before or the morning of and get a text or phone call that told them which terminal, which lane to go to and would simply show up, ut approximate it through the x-ray, and then the screener would just see it or not see it and then let it right through. >> this whole thing apparently started to unravel in part because one drug runner supposedly went to the wrong terminal. kidnapped and gang raped a teenage girl and filmed the

whole thing and the video exploded online. that girl is believed to be mentally ill. we now know three young boys, teenagers, will face prosecution for allegedly being in that video, eight in total have been arrested. all of this in south africa, a country where a woman is raped every 26 seconds according to local aid groups and sometimes gang rapes are done for sport. want you to hear that again. gang rapes for sport. south africa. cnn talked to a young man that gang raped a young girl and cheered on for it. >> to this day i don't know when the first guy raped and the second and i was the last one. i don't even remember if i even erection, just something that i didn't want to do but i pressure to be seen as one of the boys as well at the time, so i did it. >> how did you feel?

obviously she was screaming. >> terrible, terrible, terrible. i felt so guilty. i am scared if my mother would find out, my father would find out, no thought about how the victim was feeling at all. >> why? why do you think that was the case? >> it is because when the environment accepts that behavior as a known, you don't pay too much attention to it. >> 20 years later you went back to confront your victim. >> yes. >> tell me what happened. what did she say? >> she looked at me and started to cry. >> that man now works to reform young boys so things like that never happen again. we have just now gotten time lapse video of ground zero over the course of eight years. we'll share that with you plus

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a rare apology from a media giant, ground zero rises before your eyes and a desperate way kids are getting drunk. time to play reporter roulette. we begin with dan rivers in london where rupert murdoch felt compelled to say he is sorry over the phone hacking scandal. dan. >> reporter: it was a con trite rupert murdoch who appeared for the second day before this judicial inquiry into the ethics of the press looking particularly at the whole issue of phone hacking. he didn't mince words when saying sorry. >> it was an admission by me.

all i can do is apologize to a lot of people including all of the innocent people in the news of the world who lost their jobs. >> it is perhaps his admission that there was a coverup in relation to phone hacking that has gone in most of the time the head lines over here in the u.k., the first time he has admitted there was a deliberate attempt to mislead the police about this. he is trying to maintain this was limited to executives within the disgraced tabloid, the news of the world, and his enemies and some of the executives in the newspaper insist that it went higher up, possibly linking the coverup to his son, james murdoch, who denied that so far, but also the problem for rupert murdoch is does this potentially lead all the way to him and if so, that is a massive problem for news corps.

brooke. >> dan rivers, thank you, in london. next on reporter roulette chad myers in the studio with amazing video from earthcam.com, eight years here. >> you will see an awful lot of men and women in the picture as well, a lot of machines, building what we knew as the freedom tower and now it is not called thats, the world strad tower again. it will now soon be within the next couple of days the tallest building in new york. going above the empire state building. there it goes. from earthcam.com, kind of a compilation of day by day, week by week of the growth of the new tower on the site of the old world trade center, the two buildings the the foot print r print where they are, those are not buildings. those are memorial fountains and waterfalls and the new tower is off to the north and to the west of where those things are. where the fountains are to the north, a little more towards

uptown. a good shot there. go to earthcam.com and watch it again. >> i was flying into manhattan the other week and you can see what it looks like, and it is huge. i wonder how many cameras would have been involved to capture that kind of time lapse over that period of time. >> it was one camera zooming in, zooming in and zoom being back out, so there you go, the same spot and so the camera just zoomed in little by little to focus on the building itself as it went up and now it will be 1776 feet tall, get that u.s. kind of thing, and that will be taller than the willis tower formerly known as the series tower in chicago by a couple hundred feet, not the tallest in the world, that's still in dubai by 1,000 feet. >> by a wee thousand feet. thank you. next on reporter roulette parents, listen up. elizabeth coen is in the studio, and you know you think you hear it all. you think you really hear it all when it comes to kids and trying to find ways to get high and

drunk. hand sanitizer, seriously? >> because it sounds disgusting. >> it is disgusting. >> apparently they're drinking it, some drink it straight up. some flavor it. some of them try to make efforts to separate the gel from the alcohol, but then they drink it and poison control centers are getting phone calls, so in tlech last year they got more than 450 phone calls because they got so sick from it, because two shots of hand sanitizer is like drinking three shots of 80 proof tequila. they're not just getting drunk. some of them are landing in the hospital kind of drunk. >> how sick, how ill, how dangerous? >> it is potentially deadly. it is alcohol poisoning. there are no reports of death but there are reports of kids in the hospital and series things like say a coma where you can even bleeding or those kinds of things can happen with alcohol poisoning. they probably don't even realize what they're doing, how much they're getting.

if you drink three shots of tequila you get it. this, you wouldn't be able to get it. >> it is like, what, bath salts now, su have to watch what you're doing with those. mouthwash, and now hand sanitizer. what's the take away for parents? >> if you are concerned enough about your kid and alcohol that you hide your alcohol, you should hide this as well. if your child is having problems with alcohol, you should i this, maybe it is the hand sanitizer, like that should be in your head. have you a problem if your kid is going to that kind of depth in order to get their alcohol. if you go to cnn.com/empowered patient we have a lot of good advice how to talk to your kids and detect if they're having an alcohol problem. >> it is serious but disgusting all the while. >> i can't imagine wanting to get drunk that much you would drink it. >> thank you. that's reporter roulette. still ahead, vice president biden rips mitt romney over his foreign policy chops and his

constitutionality involves romney's past as a ceo and she vanished in 2010. later, her body was found, now after all this time police finally announce an arrest.

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madeleine albright set to receive the congressional medal of freedom, to first woman to serve as secretary of state and also serving as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. we should tell you it is the nation's highest civilian honor and she'll receive it as a ceremony at the white house later this year. and break out the latest images of prince william cuddling a baby. they were honoring servicemen when the wife of a sergeant asked the prince to hold the little baby, hugo is his name and all of this of course feeding into the pregnancy speculation swirling around the royal couple who by the way celebrate the first wedding anniversary this upcoming sunday. it may be april and football and television mere memory but tonight we are entering hollowed football ground, the three-day stretch when the national football league drafts the most promising college talent and beginning in a couple of hours.

get ready for the fans in your life to disappear into the world of football. vice president joe biden takes tame at mitt romney. this all happened during a speech at new york university. we have just a little bit of the speech for you. take a listen. >> it seems to me that governor romney's fundamental thinking about the role of the president in foreign policy is fundamentally wrong. that may work, that may work, that kind of thinking may work for a ceo, but a sure you, it will not and cannot work for a president, and it will not work for a commander in chief. >> just ahead, a catholic school teacher says she was fired because she got iv f, fertility treatments. we'll hear from you and whether she has a case. sunny host ton is all over it on the case next.

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okay. you heard about this. you know the catholic church opposing artificial insem nation as a means of getting pregnant. well, the teacher at a catholic school in indiana says she has been fired for undergoing in vitro fertilization and she

spoke with kira phillips earlier today. >> one day i got an e-mail saying that i needed to meet with the monsignor and he told me basically my job was at risk out of the blue, and i said, well, my principal has been knowing about this for two years. i didn't think i was doing anything wrong. i had never had any complaints about me as a teacher, so i was shocked. >> now, she maintains she was told by church officials she is a grave immoral sinner and so she is suing the church now for discrimination. i want to bring in sunny hostin on the case as always. sunny, as i understand it, the law on this is pretty vague, where it concerns religious institutions that happen to be employers, yes? >> yeah. i think that's right. it is pretty vague, even though in january just of this year the supreme court held unanimously, brooke, unanimously, that religious workers can't sue

their employers for job discrimination, but the supreme court didn't define what a religious employee is, and so the law is very murky, and i suspect this case in particular is going to sort of lead to that legal mash up. it is sort of church, separation of church and state and also reproductive and religious rights and also the question of what really is a religious employee, so this case is going to be very important, i suspect. >> does it matter she thought literature instead of religion at this particular school? does that help her case at all? >> you know, it could. it could. again, that's because the supreme court clearly said unanimously, listen, you can't -- an employee can't sue an employer, a religious employer for job discrimination, but since the supreme court left the question open what is a religious employee, the question remains pause she wasn't teaching religion, is it possible she is not deemed a

religious employee? so i think that the supreme court is going to be put to task to define that. i think what's also fascinating, brooke, is sort of the shaky ground that the catholic school at this point is standing on because they're saying she violated doctrine. i am sure there are teachers there that are using birth control. that would certainly be a violation of doctrine. i am sure there are teachers there that have been divorced. i am sure there are teachers there that live unmarried with their partners, perhaps there are gay teachers, all of these things arguably be against catholic doctrine, and so i suspect that this is a case we'll be hearing from for quite a while. i mean, even though i am shocked actually, that she was fired for this and she is suing as you mentioned for discrimination and not only for gender but also because she was infertile and that's protected urnnder the americans with disabilities act so this is a case we will be talking about again. >> it is interesting you bring

up the other examples of potential people that may be broke doctrine and maybe that will help her case and we'll follow it and see what happens with her. case number two. this is out of baltimore. police there today have announced an arrest finally in connection with this girl's disappearance and maybe our viewers remember the story. phylicia barnes, a teenager from north carolina, just up and vanished while visiting family members december of 2010. her body was later found in the sus key hannah river. tell me more about what happened today. >> well, certainly there was an arrest today, and this is a long time in the making, brooke, because as you mentioned this murder mystery started in 2010, so it has been quite some time. it took a year apparently before any suspects were looked at. my understanding is that the person that has been arrested dated her sister, dated ms. barnes sister, and we heard from her father. her father has come out and said this was a long time in am coming. they're certainly very pleased

an arrest has been made, but many are questioning why so long. it has been almost two years. since this happened. >> i remember reporting on it back in the irnt with of 2010. sunny hostin, appreciate it, thank you. a warlord behind the rapes and murders of tens of thousands. today the blood diamond boss learns his fate. plus, a soldier disappears after a night out and as the search is heating up her husband is finally opening up and not only does he talk about their marriage, he is talking about the possibility that she ran away. you will hear from him next. [ male announcer ] aggressive styling. a more fuel-efficient turbocharged engine. and a completely redesigned interior. ♪ the 2012 c-class with over 2,000 refinements. it's amazing...inside and out. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers

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new developments i want to tell you about in the case of the missing soldier from fort

bragg, kelli bordeaux. first up, hundreds of volunteers turned out today near fayetteville, north carolina, to help search for this missing woman. i want you to listen as a police spokesman describes really the overwhelming show of support there. >> rough estimate on numbers, approximately 560 people have come out and volunteered to help search. we have had one lady while signing people in said she drove up from georgia just to come help out with the search. we've had people come out with horses to help search on horse back and atvs. one guy came out with a boat that can go in marshy areas and areas you normally can't go on foot. >> the 23-year-old army medical specialist was last seen leaving a neighborhood bar on april 14th. bordeaux's husband says there is no way his wife just up and walked away. >> she always helped me through everything, and she is very responsible, like she would not have missed work. she was a dedicated soldier and

dedicated wife and me and her loved each other very much. i just appreciate everyone out here helping looking for her. >> that is the husband. now i want you to hear from the volunteers as she expresses empathy for the missing woman's family. missing woman's family. >> i would want somebody, all these people i would want to go out and look for my baby if he was gone, and i can only imagine how that mama feels because nothing means more to me than this baby right here. >> also today, fayetteville police released this new photo of kelli bordeaux. this is the last known picture taken by bordeaux herself, as you can see, with her cell phone on the day she disappeared. it is a trial that involves graphic details and heartbreaking images. supermodel naomi campbell even took the stand in this one. today is judgment day for the warlord who used blood diamond money to kill tens of thousands

pf jim clancy knows all about this guy and his unspeakable crimes. jim's going join me live next.

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discuss with her. also what's going on in israel right now as far as iran's nuclear ambitions. it seems to be a major split developing between the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu and the military chief of staff general benny ganz who is telling reporters in israel that iran has not yet made a decision to go ahead and build a nuclear bomb, that the leadership in iran, the ayatollah, he says, very rational. we're getting very different messages from the prime minister of israel spoke to our own erin burnett and now our own military chief. she's been well briefed as a member of the house intelligence committee. that and a lot more stuff coming up, as always, brooke, right here in "the situation room." let's take a sneak peek and see what's cooking for tomorrow. we'll speak to a couple awarded nearly $14 million because anonymous posters ripped them

online writing awful, awful things about them. this is a landmark case. do not miss this conversation. plus one of my favorite guests monty dmonty durham will give u a sneak peek for that. meantime, we go globe tracking. a historic verdict just happened involving a man linked to absolute atrocities, mutilation, murder, child soldiers, blood diamonds, the list goes on. for the first time in 60 years the international war crimes tribunal in the hague just convicted a former head of state, former president of liberia charles taylor. human rights activists say no matter how high up the chain you are, you are not above the law and while taylor is accused of the brutalities in liberia, the conviction is also for a -- i should say the conviction is for crimes in neighboring sierra leone.

his reported victims number in the hundreds of thousands, but one man's story shows how cruel and how evil taylor and the forces he aided could be. >> so they laid a hand on me and with my vea very new axe went t my left hand. so i begged them i said leave me alone. >> 2,000 interviewed, so many people including the man you just saw. so you were on the other side of the camera, and i was reading these rebels have said to their victims, you know, you want short sleeves or long sleeves and that would dictate whether their hands or fore arms would be chopped up. >> and people were lined up, forced to line up to have limbs amputated. and a lot of times they didn't have adults do this, because it

was sickening to cut children's, babies' limbs off. they got children to do it and charles taylor. no, he wasn't there, and no, he wasn't in command, but what he did was he pushed all of this. charles taylor and the leader of the revolutionary united front that did all of the hand chopping in sierra leone were trained together by moammar gadhafi. >> moammar gadhafi in libya. >> and charles taylor was his man and that's where charles taylor got involved in all of this and they were using the diamonds to enrich themselves, to buy more arms and our buddy victor boot figures into this. >> with the blood diamonds i remember when supermodel naomi campbell was part of the trial. taylor was arming these rebels to get the blood diamonds. >> they wanted the power and they wanted the political power and wanted to run west africa and blood diamonds was the fruit of their labor and that was to make them all rich and that was their dream to have power and

money. as the prosecutor said in this case, it was avorous and that's what drove them to horrible crimes. >> you went to prisons. what did you ask them? why did you do this? >> we sat down with them and tried to have a conversation. what were you thinking? he said we wanted to give them free education. how can anybody get an education? how can they write on a blackboard if they don't have any arms? they did this to teachers and to other people. i said why did you tell people that you wanted peace and then you did this to them? he said we wanted to make them so afraid of war they would surrender, and that was charles taylor's strategy. he had used that strategy to get elected to the presidency in liberia, and he flat-out told the sierra leonian people they would pay a price for defying them. he wanted his buddy in charge there.

>> so given everything, and just to give people a historic perspective, the former head of state has not been convicted of war crimes since nuremberg after world war ii, the nazi leaders' on trial so it has been many, many, many years and he cannot according to the international criminal court he cannot get death. >> he can get life in prison. >> what kind of a sentence is meted out to him, but when this is all over and he has his ticket punched by the creator the hottest spot in hell is reserved for this guy. >> ticket punched program jim clancy, we have less than 30 seconds. you were there, what's the one story, the one person you met that really stands out. >> the woman who not only lost her arms and legs, but she had the arms and legs cut off her child and to understand the suffering that these people go through every single day, and the further reaction they