and you have a candidate on the republican side who for religious reasons can't drink beer. what's that doing there, i wonder. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and ask you about keeping america great. i can't think of a better guy to ask what america needs to do not just to recover but to keep great. what are the great virtues that should be maintained from the past. if you're looking for a bumper sticker to sum up how president obama has handled what we inherited, it's prets eat simple. osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. son ] mom, computer's broke!

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there's a feeling here that something is out of joint, that people are not getting their fair share, whether they're on the right or the left. the most important thing about america, cliche though it is, is freedom. and that includes the freedom to have an equal chance at a livelihood, at a career, at being creative, and that's sort of been lost over the last 40 years in an equitable system and everyone knows it and we have to address it.

problems with china, issues -- our status in the world, i think that's a lot of bluster. we were going to be defeated by japan, what, 15 or 20 years ago. i think that gets out of control. the down mood is excessive, i think. >> i've been talking to people like howard schultz at starbucks, who have been talking about a new sense of moral capitalism. now, not everyone is prepared to practice this. you look at what apple is doing. apple is the biggest company in the world but is very china centric in terms of its workforce and sales. you can see staggering sales in china that came out this week. how much should american companies like apple be following the starbucks lead and bringing jobs back to america, opening factories here, even if it costs them more money to do that? >> i don't think you can have a one size fits all policy, but i do think it's something that corporations have to take into consideration more, and it's going to require real building, because it also means that

corporations have to get in the whole issue -- involved in the issue of education, local communities. it means having a political presence and a benign one, but one that's helpful. so it can't just be decreed. but, yes, a company like apple and any company should have a way of bringing some of it back to america with an understanding we live in a globalized world and not everything can be here. >> it seems to me ultimately short sighted for a company making so much money by their own admission, they're not quite sure how to spend it. they're not looking at the 8% or so unemployed in america and thinking how can we give back a bit here. america is so patriotic as a company i'm sure they would be rewarded for that. if they made a big deal of saying we're bringing jobs back to america, americans would go i love apple even more than i did yesterday. >> i think that's true. i think the brand, as they say, would be rewarded by that. of course they would be very effective at publicizing such

gestures and initiatives. so you're right, it doesn't make sense that they don't. particularly all these companies sitting around on a tremendous amount of cash. why aren't they spending it here? they may blame the president, they may blame federal regulations, but i feel that's just an alibi, an excuse, and they have to step up as corporate citizens and be a part of the real fabric of america, particularly at a time when it's suffered so much. >> final question, frank. come november the 5th, who's going to be sitting pretty as the president? >> you! >> that can't happen. >> i'm not good -- i don't believe in making predictions. i really think anything can happen. it's going to be a close race. you know, some structural things are favoring obama, some things like the money and the sugar daddies are not favoring him. >> what do you sense the key battleground will be? obviously the economy probably collectively. but is there one thing? could it be as simple as gas prices? >> no.

i don't think it's going to be one thing. and i do think a key part of the battleground is going to be women, which has already become a battleground. if romney can't win over women, he's not going to be president. i also think another key demographic is going to be hispanics, which were very important in certain swing states and that's going to be a big, big battleground. the youth vote obama will get, he just has to motivate it to go to the polls. but i think it's going to be classic, sort of meat and potatoes of american politics with the economy as an x factor, because we don't know how much the recovery is going to stall or not. >> frank, as always, fascinating to talk to you. please come back again soon. >> i'd love to, thank you. >> good to see you. next my primetime exclusive with a man's speech that made him an overnight sensation. >> my name is zack walls. i'm a sixth generation iowan and i was raised by two women. whwhatat m makakeses t thep nunumbmberer s stotorere d ?

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over the next two hours i'm sure we're going to hear plenty of testimony about how damaging having gay parents is on kids. but in my 19 years, not once have i efr been confronted by an individual who realized independently that i was raised by a gay couple. you know why? because the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character. >> zach wahls speaking to the

iowa house of representatives in impassioned defense of two mothers got 18 million hits on youtube and made him an instant celebrity. he's written a book "my two moms" and zach joins me now. welcome. >> thank you very much for having me. >> i replayed your speech this morning to remind myself because i remembered at the time just exploding on the internet. what i was struck by is a comment somebody put underneath. >> okay. >> on the youtube version that i saw and it just said there. wow, he didn't have devil horns coming out of his head. the world didn't implode. satan never rose up from hell. and damn our souls forever. in fact he seems like a normal, nice guy. i blame the parents. which i thought was a great comment to make. >> yeah. >> it kind of said it all. it was the most shocking thing about you was your nor mality and that was what was so disarming as well. you had to be staggered by the

response. >> totally overwhelmed. >> when you walked in to make that speech, what was your real intention? what did you hope to achieve? >> you know, when i walked in, i was kind of overwhelmed too. it's a really big room. at hand was house resolution 6, this proposed amendment to reverse a supreme court decision that legalized marriage avenpor

down into the abyss or anything like that. people are getting married and there's a little bit more love in the world. >> what is interesting to see is i interviewed a guy called kirk cameron and you said who's he. i never heard of him either. i never watched "growing pains" as a kid. he had done a book that was very religious in its feeling. he came out with some interesting comments. let's watch some of this. you can find out what he said.

>> i believe that marriage was defined by god a long time ago. marriage is almost as old as dirt and it was defined in the garden between adam and eve, one man, one woman, for life till death do you part. so i would never attempt to try to redefine marriage and i don't think anyone else should either. so do i support the idea of gay marriage? no, i don't. >> he went on to say that being gay was sort of destructive to civilization. some extraordinary comments, which i think he was taken aback by the reaction. now, he comes -- you will be familiar with this from this religious stand point that if you are a committed christian, certainly a catholic, for example, you may be brought up to believe that homosexuality is a sin. what do you say to people that say that kind of view? >> there are certainly a number of things anybody might choose to say to that person but first and foremost it's important for everybody to remember to be respectful and courteous in these kinds of conversations

because if you're not, you're going to alienate the people we need to have having these conversations with. i think most people who fall back on this kind of religious pretext or opposing marriage equality and other rights are forgetting that this country is not iran or saudi arabia, this is the united states of america. in the bill of lights, it's explicitly clear, the very first amendment to the united states constitution protects the freedom of religion. i would hope that kirk cameron would be willing to protect our religion just as much as he wants his own protected. >> if we get a republican president and it's mitt romney, for example, it looks like he's the nominee, he has already been outspoken against gay marriage. how do you feel about having a president that would at the moment outlaw your parents? >> it's a very full circle moment. i talk about in the book watching in 2004 at the republican national convention from our home in iowa, and actually mitt romney himself speaking against same-sex marriage. it was actually watching that convention speech that i

realized for the first time that there are politicians in this country who don't want my family to exist and support legislation to try and remove their relationship from its legal standing in iowa. so that was a very troubling moment to experience when you're in the eighth grade. i think living in a country where mitt romney is president, we'd probably be moving backwards when it comes to this issue. he supported doma publicly, he's also donated $10,000 for the national organization for marriage. so i think under a romney administration, we would be looking at a different world for lbgt people and certainly not one that's better. >> you make a brilliant point. you said britney spears marriage after 55 hours, kim kardashian 72, both uphold the sanctity of marriage. your mothers have been together 16 years of married commitment, and yet many people refuse to recognize them. >> that's right. >> as a married couple. it is an absurd disparity in the way many people view those two situations.

>> yeah, definitely. you know in fact my moms had thafr first commitment ceremony in 1996, three months to the day after the defense of marriage act was signed into law. the defense of marriage act is what singled out same-sex couples in the eyes of the federal government and was supposed toe to protect the sanctity of marriage. it was propelled by speaker gingrich and president clinton and we found out later that newt gingrich is in the middle of his second affair with the woman who would become his third wife and president clinton was in -- not sure what number that affair was but he was in the middle of an affair with monica lewinsky. and it's not to degrade either of those men at all but to point out when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, there's certainly more bigger threats to be worried about than my moms. >> there was some most amusing moments in the book where there are some practical difficulties of having two mothers and no dad. one was you had to learn how to shave from your best friend's father. you had to learn how to tie a tie from "playboy" magazine

which is the best excuse i've ever heard from a young man for reading "playboy" magazine. you're a smart guy, aren't you? >> i do what i can. i realized after we wrote that how unbelievable it sounded but that's all right. there are some other challenges i had to get used to. obviously putting the seat down was not something that was required in our household. and people often ask what's the biggest difference. so far, it's my ease with putting the seat down that seems to be the biggest difference that i can identify so far. >> how are you doing with your new celebrity? >> i travel a lot. and that's -- it's hard. it's stressful. i don't get to see my moms as much, which, you know, is a little bit of a bummer. >> or your sister. she is sitting there. >> that's true. the last time i was home, we weapons inspector and saw "the hunger games" together so that was fantastic. looking forward to spending more time at home. >> fair to say, ladies, you must be pretty proud of him. and why shouldn't you be. he did an amazing thing that day.

and i think all the people went, wow, that guy, he must have been brought up really well. the reality is that you were, but by two women who are very happily married and very proud of their boy. so nice to meet you. >> piers, thank you very much. >> keep up the good work. >> i'll do my best. coming up, marilu henner, you remember from "taxi" but she can remember just about everything else that happened to her. it's an amazing thing you're about to watch. [ gnome ] enjoying your holiday? ooo no. the hotel lost our reservation. nonsense! you book at travelocity, your reservation's guaranteed. well, i did not book with travelocity, okay?!? [ female announcer ] get the travelocity guarantee anywhere when you book with our new app. you'll never roam alone.

i believe that we look at these things, can i fault marilu for leadership, no. but the team lost. >> but you can fault her on one thing. >> yeah. >> i thought that she was very, like, talkative. you were so opposite trace. he was so solid. >> different energies. >> you have a different energy. your energy is just as good, it's just a different kind of thing. >> yeah, it's just a different kind of thing. but you were overdoing your energy. i know your energy, i understand your energy. you were overdoing your energy. >> that was me desperately trying to save the life of marilu henner in the first season of the "celebrity apprentice" on nbc. i failed. i failed to save you. >> i failed to bring the right person back to the board room, because my big flaw that day was i had been on qvc many times, but i didn't know about easy pay because i was always on for my books and they were under $25. >> the thing was to do a qvc promotion.

>> that was the first time we got to be on the same team. do you remember the day we did this? >> let's just explain why -- mainly why you're here, apart from the fact i really wanted to see you again. >> i know. >> because you and i had a special bond on that show. >> yes. >> you brought this book out called "total memory makeover." it's a "new york times" best seller. you are a freak. you have a freakish, weird, genius memory. you're one of only 12 people -- >> documented. they have found a few more but the paper that they're writing for the -- >> you have what they call an auto by graphical memory. >> but yours is ridiculous. i can barely remember what i did an hour ago. >> that picture, i know when it was taken. >> when? >> may the 4th, 2009. it was a monday. yeah, i know exactly what i was doing that day. >> what were you doing? >> well, i didn't even see that. i was at the paley center for a

friend of mine was having like a premiere there. and i also went that night to a theater and saw a reading on "after birth" and it was all on the same day. >> but that's three years ago. >> that's easy. three years ago, many years ago. that's fun too. >> let's focus on what i can have a broad memory of, which is "celebrity apprentice." when did you last see me? >> at the finale of "celebrity apprentice." it was march the 27th of 2008, thursday night. we shot at the snl studios. and i had seth myers dressing room. >> i had no idea. and i spent nearly a month with you. i had no idea -- >> well, it was 13 tasks in 20 days with two days off, a marathon. >> i'm beginning to see why you've had three husbands. this must get really annoying. >> no, no, no. it's my way of flirting with you, piers. >> it's mesmerizing. >> oh. well, thank you.

>> when did you first know you could do this? >> well, even as a typy little girl people were saying what's with this kid and her memory. they called me miss memory. i was one of six kids. any time you can find something to distinguish you from your brothers and sisters, you're happy. i had this unusual memory for dates and details and stuff. they called me univac, i was the family historian. then i was 18 years old before my girl friend said when are you going to realize that no one else has this crazy memory so i started paying attention to it. anybody who was a close friend of mine knew it. people would call me up and say when did we do this and when did we do that? lesley stahl was a friend of mine. there was a woman named jill price who had gone through testing at uc irvine because she felt she had this unusual memory and they finally said, wow, we've never seen anything like this. the scientists, the doctors, they documented it, they tested it and they offered the story to both primetime live and lesley stahl. she said hate to burst your bubble but marilu henner has the

same memory. so she didn't take the story. in fact she had one of her producers go to lunch with me to prove that i had it and why she didn't think it was that rare. >> you've now met some of the other people that have this ability. >> yes. i met them december the 7th of 2009. >> what i remember about you most vividly from the apprentice was the unbelievable energy that you used to radiate. >> well, donald trump thought it was too much. >> you look about 30. >> thank you. >> but i know you're double that age. >> i'm double that. >> just for people watching, she is 60 years old. >> i turned 60 april 6th. >> that's unbelievable. >> thank you. are you still going to flirt with you? >> of course i'm going to flirt with you. let's take a short break. when we come back, i want to put you to the test. >> okay. >> because i am riveted by the new side of marilu henner that i didn't know exists. >> okay. >> the brain that goes with the beauty and the energy. >> thank you. >> almost a perfect woman, aren't you? >> good thing i'm breeding. i bred.

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>> elaine, we're trying to play cards here. >> that was marilu henner in the classic comedy, "taxi." i loved "taxi." >> i loved it so much. >> at the time you were like my pin-up. >> i know, you said that. i was so excited. i went home and practiced poses. i got to use them in the show. >> how do you look so amazing? >> oh. well, you know, i lost my

parents really young. my father died of a heart attack at 52 when i was 17. my mom died of arthritis at 58. she was so crippled up with arthritis, she was a dancing teacher, she ended up losing her leg. they had horrible, horrible deaths. i made a vow that i would learn everything i could about the human body after they died so if i've been dealt this genetic hand i better work with it. i changed my life. i changed the eating habits of most of my family. i turned 60 almost three weeks ago and i've outlived both of my parents, so i think living as a vegan, no dairy, no meat, my children have never had a cheeseburger or a glass of milk. >> never had a cheeseburger? >> no. they're healthy and strong. >> does any part of you feel guilty they have never had a disgustingly good cheeseburger. >> people say what's going to happen if your children have a cheeseburger? >> i say i'm just hope they're writhing in pain. they can't even stand the smell of it. >> you have two boys? >> 16 and 17, almost 18. >> what do they make of your strange memory? >> they have grown up with it and they have very good memories, both of them. >> they can't play you at scrabble. >> my husband is the best person at scrabble. >> but you can remember almost every word that's ever existed. >> i don't know about that. that's more about photographic memory. i can more remember the last scrabble game we had. >> let's put this to the test because i find this gripping. >> okay.

>> so if i was to say to you what did you do on august the 16th, 1977. >> oh, okay. august the 16th, of 1977, i was just flying back from las vegas. my boyfriend at the time, lloyd allen, was performing there in vegas at the aladdin hotel. i was flying back and i was driving from the airport and i found out -- and that was -- that was a -- '77, that was a tuesday and i heard on the radio that elvis presley had died. >> my god! >> isn't that the truth? yes. >> it's shocking to me that you can remember that elvis died that day. even though i vaguely knew it was in the '70s, the fact that you remember your day is even more extraordinary. >> i remember where i ate the night before, i remember what i did that weekend. at one point he was in the show "grease" and the little -- the car during greased lightning went off and into somebody's table. it's like all of a sudden

everything starts flooding back for me. >> july the 29th, 1981. >> july 29th, 1981. okay. now you're getting me nervous, you know. july 29th, 1981. that was a wednesday. do you have that? >> it was a wednesday. >> july 29th, 1981. oh, gosh, i don't know if i know the historical thing that happened. >> it doesn't matter. i guess it would only come back to you if it meant something on that particular day. i know what i was doing. i was shooting in soho the movie "dream house" with john schneider. and we were shooting like my apartment there. that was -- you're not going to believe this -- that's the first time i ever listened to a walkman. and i heard that sting song. and we ate at spring street natural. but something probably historical happened. we got up super early in the morning. that would have come back. i was at the hotel. we got up super early to watch charles and diane get married. then i went down to a shoot in

soho dream house. >> that's incredible. i love the way your brain began to map out. >> well, i would have come up with that. >> i was a journalist at the time covering all this stuff. i wouldn't have a clue. what month, what day. to me it seems perfectly normal. >> it is normal. >> it was. it was the first day. so the way it works for me because people for years have been asking me how my memory works. when i was a little girl i would say you know how you go to the library and you pull out a card catalog but you have to be on this side of it because it's chronological like this. but the best way i could describe it is when i saw a scene selection on a dvd. for me. you say 1981, a and the whole year lines itself up.

and i see simultaneous videos of each day of that year. >> if i say to you two mo mentous things happened on march 30th in your lifetime. >> i know one of them for sure. in 1981. that's when reagan was shot. it was supposed to be academy awards. but they postponed it until the next night. >> that's true. 1965. march 30th. >> that's early for me. i was not 14. >> does your memory go back? >> it does. but maybe it wasn't something -- >> it's arguably one of the most important moments of the 20th century. march 30th of 1965. winston churchill died a few months before, and this was almost like a natural succession. another heroic brit who is going to dominate the world. i'm sorry. >> it's my birthday. >> march 30th, 1965.

now you'll never forget it. >> now i will never forget. which was a tuesday. >> chast entirely true. doesn't that mean if i interviewed you in five years time -- i. >> i won't forget your birthday. i won't forget we did it on this day. now it's part of your life. >> and i adore you. i never looked up your birthday before or anything else like that. i babysat for you. >> she had. the book is fascinating. i can't stress that highly enough. >> it's really for other people. >> can you be trained to have anything like this? >> you may not but i can bring back people's memories in ways they never imagined before. i've been working in the memory world for long time now. way before 60 minutes. i've been working with people, individuals, couples. there's never been anybody i prompted or has done my

exercises without being able to g back. it's really like taking what happens for me naturally and turning it into exercises for other people. >> i think i know why you've been married three times. i couldn't understand why any man would let you go. it's because you must never forget any bad thing they ever do. >> but -- >> they can never had a bad drunken nights in the pub. >> you remember the time, the date. >> so what. what wives don't remember? my husband -- what man ever wins an argument against his wife. at least i have an excuse for it. >> it's been so nice to see you again. >> you mean it's over? >> it's over. >> one thing is for sure, we will never forget it. it's a best selling. go out and buy it. it's amazing. lovely to see you. >> great to see you, too. >> next, "only in america." show me the money. the nfl billion dollar draft.

the nfl draft an amusing spectacle. but any sports lover like me will put it mildly tonight. a pageant of brawness and beauty is under way where strapping

young men are marched into an arena, judged and bid over by hideously wealthy owners. these are the prized. it's not just the rich old guys wheeling and dealing, parents, agents, handlers, you name it everyone wants a piece of the action. they have little option but to sit, look pretty and wait, often for a call that never comes. it's often a completely humiliating way of doing business. once a player is selected, the owners trade them straight off to the other team. the clear message being we love you, but not as much as the other guy. so you run along now to wherever we tell you. of course, a few of these young men will become famous and fabulously wealthy and have a long career in the nfl. others won't be so successful. some won't play a single game in the pros, which is why the draft critics call the whole process a