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shirt on, i know it's done right. >> you can see the entire getting to know interview with speaker boehner as well as today's other interviews, some analysis, and web exclusives at our website, cmn.com/sotu. thank you so much for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. fareed zakaria "gps" is next for our viewers here in the united states. this is "gps, the global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. on today's terrific show, we'll take you around the world and back again. we'll start in china with the stunning scandal over the rising political star. this is a story filled with allegations of murder and spying and corruption and more. it has beijing on the defensive. i will talk to the "new yorker's" beijing correspondent
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about what it all means. then pakistan which had its own mini-scandal a year ago leading to the ouster of its famous ambassador to washington. we have the first exclusive interview with ambassador haqqani since then. he will tell us what happened to him and what's happening in pakistan. also, why in the world has immigration from mexico to the united states stopped in its tracks? we'll take a look. next up, the american elder statesman brent scowcroft on syria, iran, the middle east, and how he feels today about the republican party which he served for decades. finally, do you procrastinate, waste money, over indulge. what to do with your bad hakts -- habits and how transforming them could help you, your company, your country. first, here's my take. after months of meandering, it seems that president barack obama's re-election campaign has settled on a theme. the problem is it's the wrong one.
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the buffett rule tax on millionaires has become obama's bumper sticker. the proposal is reasonable, but it does not deserve the attention obama is showering on it. it raises a trivial sum of money, $47 billion over the next ten years, during which period the federal government will spend $45 trillion. it adds one more layer to a tax code that is already the most complex and corrupt in the industrialized world. the focus on the buffett rule is also bad politics in the long run for obama. while polls might momentarily show that it works, americans are generally aspirational, not envious. over the years, voters tend to support a government that focuses on creating opportunity rather than one that just tries to reduce inequality. bill clinton and tony blair's great feat was to position themselves as pro-market, pro-growth, pro-opportunity progressives. obama should not fritter away that asset. ironically, obama has been pivoting at the very moment that events in the real world are providing him with the perfect
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campaign issue. we are four years into the financial crisis. in the united states the government acted speedily and massively to stimulate the economy using monetary and fiscal measures. in europe by contrast governments quickly turned towards austerity programs, cutting spending across the board to reduce budget deficits. well, the results are in. the u.s. economy is expected to grow 2% to 3% this year. the euro zone is expected to contract, to shrink by .3% this year. spain and britain have officially entered a double-dip recession, the first time major economies have done so in 40 years. imf projections show that even germany's average growth rate over the next five years will only be 40% of america's. president obama started the year speaking about an economy built to last. he should return to the theme and frame this campaign as a choice between public investments on the one hand versus budget cuts on the other. he has substance behind his rhetoric. obama has proposed several important investment initiatives.
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a $476 billion infrastructure plan. a 5% hike in research and development spending. a job training program to help dislocated workers. incentives for manufacturing, funds to expand the pool of college graduates. also to increase science and engineering students so he should ask americans to choose between these investments to spur long-run growth versus massive budget cuts. in the midst of the economic crisis, warren buffett said his strategy was to invest in america. that's the buffett rule obama should follow. let's get started.
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this is a year of wholesale change in china. most of the country's all-powerful standing committee will be replaced, but these are the planned changes. what beijing did not account for in 2012 was an all-out scandal. until a few months ago, bo shi lee was a name known for few westerners, but in china he was a princeling and the powerful head of the party. his campaign against organized crime had made him a champion of the new left, a throwback to the days of mao in some ways. and then all of a sudden this powerful figure had a stunning fall. every day this fall has been chronicled on newspaper front pages around the world. it turns out he was corrupt. his wife had been detained in connection with the murder of a
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british businessman, and now he is said to have been wiretapping the most powerful man in china, the chinese president. it's not just one man's story, but the inner workings of china, which we rarely see. i'm joined by a journalist who follows these inner workings very closely. evan osnos is "the new yorkers'" china correspondent, but he is here this week in new york. welcome. >> thanks. glad to be here. >> so this sounds like something out of a murder mystery. how do you think most chinese people are reacting? the news of this guy who was really one of the most admired people in china from what we could tell has suddenly been now revealed to be a corrupt hack or is being kind of painted as a corrupt hack by officials. >> this story is unprescedented. we're talking about the world's second largest economy, the most powerful men in charge. bo shi li was going to be perhaps one of the nine people running the country this fall, and now he has been -- he has fallen from grace, and, of
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course, in the course of just a few weeks, and this has really left people's head spinning because in the chinese press, they're being told every day this man was a criminal. this man who had been celebrated just a couple of months ago, and this is very hard for the party to explain to people. this is a problem that's hard to houb is a man accused of wiretapping his peers, it is hard to explain to people how he got so high. >> and what is the -- in the chinese press he has been portrayed as a criminal and kind of awe bad apple, but this is also about a power struggle. >> this is the part that's especially awkward for the leadership because they have a case in which the details themselves are so spectacular. we've got a police chief fleeing to the u.s. consulate in chungdo seeking protection from the americans, saying that his boss's wife has murdered an english businessman, poisoned him in a hotel. we've then got rumors coming up on the internet and then eventually being confirmed by
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western reporters that show that, in fact, the bo shi li family had assembled an enormous fortune, perhaps into the millions -- or hundreds of millions of dollars. they were trying to move out of the country. the party has tried very carefully to say this is a criminal matter. regard this as one bad apple. but what we now know, in fact, is this is just the outward expression of what is a deep and intense political contest going on at the highest ranks of the communist party. >> but what we now have from the "new york times" in this extraordinary piece of reporting that -- i mean, if it doesn't win the pulitzer prize, i will be stunned -- is that bo shi li was actually wiretapping senior chinese officials in beijing, including the president of china. i mean, this tells us of a level of intrigue that literally looks bizantine. >> this moves us from a sort of
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agatha christie case to a watergate style of case. what you have is one part of the government using the full force and tools and apparatus of the state on another part of the government. that to a chinese reader and a chinese listener is alarming because this goes back to the very origins of the factional, very bitter fights that shaped the communist party over the the communist party over the '60s and '70s. the communist party has succeeded in projecting the idea of unity, discipline, competence, professionalism. that's what it stood for three, four years ago. growth of 8%, 10% a year. it's now begun to look as chaotic, frankly, as it did in the late 1980s, and to a chinese citizen, that's distressing, and i think that's a problem for the party because the party has sold itself to people over the last few years by saying we know communism is no longer a part of your life. we know it no longer means anything, but what we can do is we can deliver competence and stability. this begins to pull that into doubt. >> and if you look at the levels of corruption that seem to, again, be surrounding this, we pointed out to me off camera a fascinating report from the chinese central bank that talked about the numbers. tell that.
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>> last year there was a report that went up from the chinese central bank for a few hours on the internet before it was taken down, which suggests they never meant to release it. what it said is there was had 180 billion, billion with a b, u.s. dollars, that had gone from chinese treasury from essentially public money that had been taken overseas by corrupt officials. when that happened at the time -- frankly, a lot of us thought this can't be right. the did hes mat place is off. something is off. what we're now starting to think is that, in fact, it's plausible, that if there were -- if there are enough bo shi lis who have assembled thesis economic empires for themselves in the system, that quantity of money begins to be plausible, and what that means is a certain level of chaos beneath the surface of -- what we see on the surface is the ritual of everybody banding
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together, the system doing well. these are technocrats. what we are seeing is there is a disorderly layer to the chinese political system. >> so the leadership is going to try to present this as one very bad, corrupt, power-hungry guy, and it may well be, from their point of view, that they dodged a bullet here. he was clearly power hungry. he clearly was going to be a very difficult and unruly member of the nine-member standing committee. he seems to have been willing to use power in ways that certainly the chinese have not for 20 years. you know, wiretapping his superiors. they'll try to shut it down and say we got rid of the bad egg. will it work? >> i think for the moment, they are succeeding in containing the damage in the sense that this has not started a campaign of purges. the signal to us that this is going to become a larger political problem and it may, in fact, throw off the transition of leadership this fall, is if we begin to see high level purges of either side of these idealogical debates. so, for instance, if other members of the polit bureau get
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into the crosshairs, if they start to go down, then we really need to be concerned about whether the political system at its highest level is stable. for the moment they have succeeded in saying that bo shi li is a problem. we've rooted him out, and let's go back to business. i'm reasonably confident that they certainly will be making every effort to do it, and, remember, this is a dictatorship that does not have a dictator, and that is an unusual thing. it's something we have not really encountered before, and as a result, it's hard to predict what sort of political animal it is. >> a dictatorship without a dictator and where the leaders transition out every ten years. >> a dictatorship with term limits is something we've never encountered before. the last time we had a political crisis like this in china was 1989. you have to remember, that was a time when china's economy was smaller than spain's. there was no internet. what happened in beijing was interpreted and broadcast to the public around china in whatever way the party wanted it to, and at the time it was still a crisis.
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after all, 1989 was tiennamen square. right now china is stable. the streets are quiet. but this is a hugely volatile moment because you've got the internet, which has a way of interpreting things in all kinds of unpredictable ways. china so far is still growing fast. the economy is still growing. people are reasonably satisfied. it cannot afford, frankly, to have political disarray because it doesn't have that kind of cushion and protection. >> evan osnos, thanks very much. it will be fascinating to see what you write about on all this for "the new yorker." up next, a scandal that's shaken the core of america's relations with pakistan. i'm going to speak to the man at the center of it, the man who lost his job as pakistan's ambassador to washington. the first interview exclusive to us. >> fareed, it's such a liberating feeling not to be the ambassador right now so i can actually say what i feel. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days.
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november pakistan's ambassador to the united states. he was known for deftly navigating the corridors of american power, but his tenure came to an end when the pakistani-american businessman made a stunning public accusation. he claimed that in the days after the navy seal raid on bin laden's compound, haqqani asked him to pass a memo to then chairman of the joint chiefs of staff michael mueller. he just said this memo asked for american help to stop a potential military coup in pakistan. memogate created a huge scandal in pakistan and angered the country's powerful military. haqqani was summoned back to islamabad where he resigned his post, was denounced as a traitor, and has lived in fear for his life. he says he still gets death threats daily. he is back now in washington, and he joined me there to talk about the larger issues arising from his case. >> the whole thing has been basically an example of how a mountain can be created out of a molehill, but primarily, how the
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divisions in pakistan are very strong between those like myself, who have a vision of a pluralist pakistan that is part of the modern world and those that think that pakistan should be an ideological state that should be xenophobic. >> a lot of people regarded the speed and scale of the kind of attack on you as being an example of the military's power in pakistan, where they took the leaking of a memo, even if it existed, and managed to have you arrested. you were immediately charged. your life seemed to be under threat. does the military have that kind of capacity? >> first, let me say that i was not formally arrested. yes, my movement was restricted, but i was never arrested. i was never charged. there is no legal or formal charge against me. what happened was it's not just the military, by the way. it's unfair to just blame the
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military. pakistan society is extremely polarized, and that polarization includes judges, journalists, generals, politicians, all people who have adopted a world view, and i happen to have the different world view. and the president of pakistan and the elected leadership of pakistan embraces that world view, but did not have the strength at that time to assert the world view. then, there was this whole media trial which kept on saying, this is treason, this is treason, you asked the americans to intervene in pakistan's domestic politics. a, there was no threat of going after bin laden and being found in pakistan in may. in fact, the military was very embarrassed by that fact that he was found there. so there was no coup that we needed to avert. the so-called claim that i actually sent or asked somebody to send a memo to admiral mullen has already been set right by general jones who was the intermediary. he says, yes, he sent me an e-mail, and i forwarded it to
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admiral mullen. mullen didn't take it seriously, and jones says but i was never told it was from haqqani or from anybody else, and the individual concerned who was at the heart of all of this , he has changed his story several times, and he has a long history. >> when we look at u.s./pakistani relations, it does not seem that things are on the right track. it feels as if there is deep distrust between the pakistani military and the u.s. military. there is deep distrust at the level of the civilian government in the sense that there's a sense that they cannot actually govern, they don't have any power. and if you look at, like, the drone attacks, for example, the number of drone attacks have dropped dramatically, in part because of very strong objections from the pakistani side, retaliation of various kinds. where is this relationship going? >> fareed, let's be clear. the mistrust is not just between american institutions and pakistani institutions or american government and pakistani government. the mistrust is between the pakistani people and the
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american people. pakistani people have a narrative in which the united states has repeatedly betrayed pakistan, have left it in the lurch. it came to fight the soviets in afghanistan, and then left in a hurry without caring about the fallout for pakistan. it promised assistance and withdrew it. the american narrative is that pakistanis cannot be trusted and that pakistan pursues a nuclear weapons program which they promised at one time that they wouldn't do, that pakistan is involved in supporting militants and terrorists. >> and is that fair? in other words, from what you can see, from what you saw, isn't it true that the pakistani military wants to retain ties with the taliban because it wants to have influence in a post-american afghanistan? >> fareed, it's such a liberating feeling not to be the ambassador right now so i can actually say what i feel, but even then, i will say something that i said on your show once before.
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pakistan does have legitimate security concerns in afghanistan. it would not be appropriate for pakistan to not respond to the reality that afghanistan should not be used as a staging ground for any kind of military or covert operations against pakistan. the u.s. would not have accepted a soviet base in mexico during the cold war. that said, i think that there is a paranoid mindset 234 in pakistan that does not allow rational discourse, and if the matter is discussed in a rational manner in which the paranoia is set aside -- and by the way, the paranoia runs wild in pakistan. i don't know how much to follow the pakistani media, but in everything, there's a conspiracy theory. >> directed by the cia? >> directed by the cia, directed by the american government. there's an conspiracy to take over the world, a term that nobody in america follows. i know there are many people in america who are zionists and many people of indian origin, but i have never heard of the
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indozionist sort of lobby here. there are things that are fed there. you know that even in the most free media environment, people believe what they're told and then their opinions are shaped by that. so in case of afghanistan also, pakistan and the united states can come to terms with an arrangement that can work for both. we are not there yet. we are not there yet. and i think to get there, it's important that those groups that pose a threat to american security, they need to be dealt with by pakistan. >> and that means going into north waziristan and taking on the haqqani faction and other groups like it. >> dealing with all those factions that pose a security threat to the united states. pakistan will have to eventually do that, and at the same time do you think -- >> do you think they will? it's been ten years that we've been asking. >> i understand your frustration that it hasn't happened in ten years. how will it happen?
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at the same time, the americans need to push harder and make the point that we are willing to embrace and understand your legitimate security concern. >> pleasure to have you in the united states. glad to see that you're safe, and we look forward to talking to you again. >> thank you very much. >> that was husain haqqani talking to me in washington. up next what in the world. we've come to believe that millions upon millions of mexicans are entering the u.s. every year. well, the new data shows that net migration is actually zero. how? why? up next. th diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.
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now for our "what in the world segment." this past week, the supreme court deliberated over a controversial arizona immigration law. it comes amidst a climate of hostility. just look at the republican primaries. >> and that means completing construction of a high-tech fence. >> i will build a double-walled fence. >> going to have a fence. it's going to be 20 feet high. it's going to have barbed wire on the top. >> the fence in question guards one-third of america's 2,000-mile-long border with mexico. supporters of harsher laws argue that three out of every five illegal immigrants are from mexico. but just as american hostility is reaching a crescendo, the problem might be disappearing. i was struck by a pew report i
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saw this week. it says an historic pattern of migration has been reversed. comparing two recent five-year blocks, the report finds that not only has the number of mexicans immigrating to the u.s. declined by 50%, from 3 million to about 1.4 million, the number of mexicans going the other way, back home, has doubled. 700,000 mexicans in the u.s. moved back between 1995 and 2000. 1.4 million between 2005 and 2010. the decline in illegal immigrants is no surprise. even president obama has spent more on immigration enforcement than his predecessor. what is surprising, however, is the drop in net legal migration. this has several explanations. the u.s. economy is weaker. on the other hand, mexico's economy is doing better. its gdp per capita now is $15,000, about one-third that of america's.
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some of mexico's competitiveness is due to nafta, the north american free trade agreement. because it avoids u.s. tariffs, its exports work out to be cheaper than china's. last year, mexico did $400 billion worth of business with the u.s. that's more than argentina and brazil combined. but whatever the set of reasons behind the pew findings, immigration is always determined by both pull and push. the need to leave a place is as crucial as the lure of a new destination. so are we losing our lure? if that's the case, that's actually not good news. the u.s. has always benefitted from being demographically dynamic. a major advantage we have over japan, europe, and even china is that our population will continue to expand, and it's been expanding with young people who are hard-working, and full of drive and pay lots of taxes. look at this data.
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the median age in the u.s. was about 37 years in 2010. china's was lower, 34 years. but come 2050, that dynamic is reversed thanks to decades of beijing's one child policy and american immigration. the median age here will be 40, but in china, it will hit nearly 49 years. an aging country creates a deficit of workers and a surplus of retirees who spend. our demographic advantage holds true against a number of countries. look at this chart. in blue, you can see the share of seniors in a number of developed countries right now in 2000. in red, you'll see the percentage of seniors they are projected to have in 2050. again, we have a smaller share than most of the developed world. we're projected to be better off demographically than france, the united kingdom, korea, spain, and, of course, japan.
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this demographic advantage is entirely due to immigration. the united states actually has a fertility rate that is not so different from european countries, so our population gains, and these are gains in young people, come entirely from immigration. the pew study shows how we've clamped down on illegal immigration, but it also shows that mexicans don't want to come here as much legally as they did before, so actually it's a mixed picture. in trying to one-up each other by building bigger and higher fences, demonizing immigrants and hoping that they will self-deport, we seem to have forgotten that it is the spirit of acceptance and hospitality that has made america so attractive to legal immigrants for centuries. let's hope we can stay that way. >> the arab spring has not yet hit the palestinian issue. but it will.
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bush. before that, he served the nation for 29 years in the air force with a final rank of lieutenant general. welcome. >> thank you. >> i want to talk to you about all kinds of things, but let's start with perhaps the most urgent issue that would be on your plate if you were national security advisor right now. what to do about syria. this is a situation in which the united states has publicly said it wants to see the end of the assad regime. assad is being helped by iran. he is slaughtering his own people. what would you do? >> it's not by accident that syria has never really known a democracy. it's a very complicated country ethnically, religiously, culturally. and so my sense is if assad left
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tomorrow, the syrian problems would not end. it is very difficult to know what to do. i think sanctions are, in the long run, probably the most useful thing. and assad can go until one of two things happens. either his military seizes to support him or splits, and the business community deserts him. neither of those has fundamentally happened yet. >> you are a military man. do you think that no-fly zones, arming the rebels, any of these measures that are clearly meant to be military measures short of war, could they work? >> it is not clear to me what work means. they could turn what is now an insurrection kind of activity into a full civil war. but is it enough without the fracturing of the army in the army dish the syrian army is a complicated entity. but short of the fracturing of
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that you can make violence more extreme. but solving the problem is not going to do it, i don't think. >> so you -- you would counsel military intervention of any kind, including no-fly zones? >> i think humanitarian help, i think it would be fine, but i don't think that that kind of intervention can be decisive, and i really think that in the longer run, sanctions are likely to be more heavily influential. >> you were saying earlier that you thought a no-fly zone, for example, could simply expand the civil war, so you would not be in favor of it. >> no. well, well, things like that --
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it would create a full civil war, it would not be enough to transform the situation, i don't think. i think we would have to have troops on the ground. either ours or turkey's or somebody's to do that. >> if you were to advise mitt romney, what would you say of the principal areas where you would have disagreements with the obama administration? >> well, i believe -- well, one of them is the peace process. i believe that -- the arab spring has not yet hit the palestinian issue. but it will. i think timing is essential to move that process before we have another debacle. >> but that's -- in effect, you want the united states to be more forceful and presumably
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press for a settlement. if anything, the republicans nowadays are criticizing president obama for having done what few measures he did take. >> yes. >> and so the republicans are wrong. >> well, republicans are -- i think both sides are wrong because i think those -- the small measures that the administration took at the outset of the administration, like focusing on settlements, was a mistake because i think nothing short of a comprehensive approach in which each side has to give a little here to get a little there. and overall, it's a structure that meets the needs of both sides. i think that is the solution that has not been pressed. >> are you comfortable with the republican party these days? >> well, many parts of the party call me a rino. >> republican in name only. >> republican in name only. i don't think i've changed my views at all.
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>> you think the party has -- >> i think the party has moved. >> do you think -- are there any prospects for a change? it feels as though it's moved a lot since you were in office. >> well, i think -- yes, i think there are prospects for change, because the attitudes go up and down. you know, i still remember -- you wouldn't. 1964 and barry goldwater, who ran a very conservative campaign. and when he was badly defeated, the republican party turned to nelson rockefeller and ronald reagan and other moderates. so, you know, the -- we're continually reinventing ourselves. >> brent scowcroft, always a pleasure to have you on. >> nice to be with you, fareed. >> we will be back. when you go through a major life event, your habits change. even if you're not aware of it. if you get married, the type of coffee you change -- you buy changes. if you get a divorce, the type of beer you buy changes.
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people perform every day, that you perform every day, are not actually decisions you make, but they are the product of habits. we like to think of habits as straits that can't be changed, but it turns out that habits are malleable. and knowing how to change them has profound implications not just at the personal level, but also for companies and governments. my next guest has a new book that explores this theme. the author of "the power of habit." he is a reporter for the "new york times". he joins me today. >> thank you for having me. >> tell the story. paul o'neil, who later becomes treasury of the secretary is ceo of alcoa. when he first comes in, alcoa is not doing well at all, but he focuses on worker safety. >> right, exactly. >> why? >> everybody expected him to focus on productivity and efficiency, but he said worker safety is his number one goal, and it's because he recognized that if you -- that there are these things called keystone habits within organizations and if you can change this one
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habit, you set off a chain reaction. that's exactly what happened within alcoa. by focusing on worker safety, he actually transformed the entire organization, and within two years, they were at the top performer in the dow jones industrial average. >> you look at -- one of the things that goes on here is that people have more ability to change. they have more willpower than they think they have. >> in the last decade, our understanding of the science of habits has been completely transformed by neurological studies, and what we understand now is that every habit has these three components, a cue, a routine, and a reward. if you diagnose these cues and rewards, you can begin changing automatic behaviors in ways that we never really thought were possible previously. >> so give me an example of what one would think of as a bad habit that you can change. >> smoking is a great example, right? in the last decade smoking rates have plummeted in the united states. part of the reason why is because we now understand why people smoke. there's these cues, such as the time of day, that triggers the whatever. more importantly, it's delivering a reward that nicotine actually gives you this energy. so now interventions go in and what they say is they say don't just try and quit smoking.
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replace it with coffee, with exercise, with something that gives you that same reward, and we've seen an incredible decrease in the number of people smoking and their ability to quit. >> and when you look at a company like starbucks, it also tries to produce certain kinds of habits when dealing with, for example, disgruntled customers. >> that's exactly right. one of the interesting things about starbucks is that they have to sell customer service along side that $4 latte. they're dealing with a work force that's often 17 years old, high school graduates. they have to teach them these life skills, and what they do is they design specific habits to use in corporate settings. when an angry customer comes up, that's a cue for what they call a latte method, which is you listen and you thank them and give them a free cup of coffee, and then the reward is that basically you solve this problem.
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they take decision making out of the equation. they make the response automatic, and customer service productivity go up enormously. >> target tried to measure some of these issues. how did it do it? >> target has this really interesting project, as most of corporate america of intensely studying shoppers' habits, and target used this to try to predict which women were pregnant by studying how their shopping habits changed. they got so good that they can essentially assign every woman who comes regularly through their doors a pregnancy comes pregnancy prediction score and estimate their due date within two weeks. >> why is that important to. shog? >> target knows when you go through a major life event, your habits change, even if you're not aware of it. if you get married, the type of coffee you buy changes. if you get a divorce, the type of beer you buy changes. when you have a child, all of your shopping habits up for grabs, even if you're not entirely aware of it. target knows if they can get the right coupon in your hand at the right time, you'll start buying for them. >> i guess the fundamental question is, can you change habits? >> absolutely. absolutely. that's the biggest insight we have. it's not just personal habits, but also habits within companies, organizational habits, habits across societies.
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what we've learned in the last decade, particularly from neurological studies is any habit can be changed, it doesn't matter how ingrained the behavior is or how old the person is. if you can identify the cue and the award and understand what's driving the behavior from a neurological perspective, the craving, you can change that behavior. but you have to be deliberate about it. ceos can't just try to do it on the fly. and good ceos, jack welsh, lew gertsner, when you talk to them, they talk about organizational habits and how important it is to get them right. >> what habit have you changed? >> i've actually lost like 30 pounds since i started writing this book and am training for the new york city marathon now. >> and you attribute it to this -- >> i do. i sound like i'm selling snake oil, but it's actually true. i'm an investigative reporter for the times. i'm not given to fashion trends, but the you figure out how to take apart these habits, you can change your life in these really important ways. >> best of luck on the marathon.
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president charles taylor was found guilty at a war crimes tribunal at the hague. that brings me to my question of the week, which was, who was the last head of state convicted at an international war crimes tribunal? was it, a, pol pot of cambodian, b, slobodan milosevic, c, omar al baa shir, or d, karl donitz. stay tuned and we'll give you the answer. you can follow us on twitter and facebook, and remember, if you miss a show, go to itunes. you can get the audio podcast for free or you can buy the video version. go directly there by typing itunes.co itunes.com/fareed into your browser. this week's book of the week is paul krugman's latest, "end this depression now!" whether you love krugman or hate him, you have to pay attention to him. and this is the fullest
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expression of his economic policy views, the big book or the big target, depending on how you feel, but either way you have to read it. now for the last look, when the movie "borat" premiered in 2006, kazakhstan's government banned the film and threatened to sue its star. six years later, kazakhstan's foreign minister is thanking borat, crediting the film with the large tourism boost. he called it a great victory as the number of applications for tourist visas to kazakhstan has grown tenfold. now travelers can't look to borat as an accurate depiction of the country, so how should they prepare for a trip? el, they could watch this 67-minute promotional film about the glorious country's history and recent achievements, entitled "in the stirrups of time." this one stars a different brit, former british prime minister, tony blair. the film features various carefully selected clips from an
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interview with blair, who applauds the nation's diversity and progress. >> i think, you know, you've got to see the progress is remarkable. >> it proudly talks about pa kazakhstan's recent accomplishments. there were a few statistics that couldn't fit into the 67-minute video. kazakhstan ranks 172nd out of 196 countries in terms of press freedoms. 120 out of 183 in terms of corruption. 137 of 167 in the economist's 2011 democracy index. its president won the election with over 95% of the vote. on second thoughts, maybe there is a lonely planet guide out there somewhere? the correct answer to our gps question was d, admiral karl donitz. his is a name mainly lost to history, but he took over as
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germany's head of state after adolf hitler's death. baa sh thanks for all of you being part of my program this week. ly i will see you next week. hello. i'm alison kosik with a check of our top stories. some breaking news out of new york now. a van packed with people has reportedly careened off an overpass and fell about 60 feet near the bronx zoo. multiple media reports are saying as many as seven people have been killed. "the new york times" is reporting that three of the dead are children. we're going to have a live report from the scene just ahead. fighter jets from sudan attacking military units across the border in south sudan. soldiers and this tv news crew ran for cover during the air strikes. several south sudanese
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