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the fbi and federal prosecutors say there was never any real threat to the public and they say the suspects were closely monitored and their would-be explosives were duds controlled by an undercover fbi employee. the feds say three of the five men are self-proclaimed anarchists and that's why they were busted. >> the fbi and department of justice are not conducting an investigation of any group and have not, will not conduct an investigation of any group. today's charges should not indicate anything different. this was an investigation of specific, five specific individuals based upon specific actions and predication. they're now charged with a specific crimes as alleged in the complaint. the fbi and the department of justice are not and do not investigate movements. we investigate crimes. >> all right, so, the five were arrested last night and are due in federal court some time today. we're following that.

we're also hearing of new and urgent precautions against so-called body bombs on airplanes. these are the explosives that are implanted inside people and, thus, at least theoretically, hard to detect positive cnn susan candiotti is on that story for us. i've got her on the phone. susan, what exactly do we know right now? >> good morning, kyra. we're learning about a new threat involving body bombs planted inside passengers that would be on flight that originate overseas and heading towards the united states. this is according to an official who asked not to be identified, given the sensitivity of this. however, the official tells cnn that this information arageinated within the last two weeks and was shared among american and other intelligence as well as other entities in europe and the middle east.

now, this is not a brand-new threat in terms of a problem that authorities have been aware of in the past. this has come up back in 2009, for example. there was an attack on the saudi prince. however, the body bomb was planted inside the brother of the bombmaker. and the bomb went off inside the person that was carrying the bomb. he was killed instantly, however, target the saudi prince only received minor injuries. this, of course, you have to consider the timing here and this is a new threat that has come up surrounding the one-year anniversary of the assassination of osama bin laden, kyra. >> you mention 2009, too. remember, wasn't that christmas day. the underwear bomber was caught. is there any link to this guy? >> well, the bombmaker, who originated that bomb that was meant to target the saudi prince also is the bombmaker who is

believed to be behind this latest threat or could be behind this latest threat, as well. he did create the bomb involving mu talla, that was involved in that christmas day attack that you're talking about. >> keep us updated. susan candiotti. we'll continue to talk throughout the morning. now, a remarkable view of al qaeda from the inside. cnn has actually seen a trove of al qaeda documents from a highly encrypted memory chip that was discovered in the underwear of a terror suspect that was arrested last year in berlin. those files were actually hidden inside a porn video. u.s. intelligence calls them, pure gold. they cover strategy, tactics, lessons learned and future operations. cnn nic robertson joining us now from london on this. pretty intriguing, nic, especially the mode of transportation. these documents suggest that al

qaeda is under tremendous pressure, but determined to adapt, right? >> absolutely. i mean, the documents here, 141 of them, some of them look back and provide, for example, our first inside from al qaeda's perspective, from the guy that handled the attacks in london, the 721 bombing attack that killed 52 people on 7/7. follow-up attack two weeks later. the liquid airlines plot. means today we can only carry 100 milliliters of liquid. what they're trying to do now. what we can see, they're very concerned about western intelligence agencies getting better and they try to do their own kind of countersurveillance to throw off intelligence agencies and they have been successful doing that and concerned and demoralized by a number of people being killed and operatives being killed in the training region and get as many back from europe and the places that they've come from

and they're going to want to try to do simpler attacks like the mumbai gun attack where ten gunmen in india in 2008 attacked people in three hotels. killed 164. but perhaps the most scary of all the tactics they want to put into practice is to take down a cruisesh ship. dress in jump suits and then execute people and upload them to the internet. so, there's a range of plans, but they're all modified based on the fact that they are just not as able to attack in the same big way as they used to, kyra. >> nic, what do we know about this suspect and why he was carrying it on him. was he just some sort of low-level carrier? >> this is really interesting. we really know very, very few details right now from german authorities. probably come to conclusion in june. we may know more then.

but the bottom line is, what we do know. he does appear to be part of this future project's document. this mumbai-style attack. if we remember just under two years ago there was a warning to travel in the hull of europe, unprecedented. this seems to be because there was a threat at that time. arrests in connection with a mumbai gunman-style attack. these people arrested in germany seem to be connected a year later with a similar type of attack and they had with them a list of people to recruit to become suicide attackers in this attack. those are the details we have, kyra. >> nic, thanks so much. appreciate it. before we move on, i want to share interesting numbers we came across. the pew research center did a poll and found that al qaeda is widely unpopular. look at pakistan where osama bin laden was found and shot dead. only 13% of muslims have a favorable view of al qaeda. the majority, unfavorable.

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while we're on the ground all over the world to bring you the latest. poppy harlow in new york and dan simon out on the west coast there. let's start in new york. ground zero of the "occupy" movement which is playing a big part in today's protest. occupiers determined to show that 1%, what life was like without the 99%. poppy harlow, give us a feel for what it's like in new york. >> they are certainly trying. let's play the video for you so you can get a sense of what is here in bryant park. not a lot of people. it has gotten bigger since we started at 7:00 a.m. people are waiting to march down to union square and later this evening on down to wall street. of course, they're a little more organized. i'll pull this up for you. i never got this covering zu caug zuccotti park. there were protests in front of the big banks. bank of america, big

headquarters, just a few blocks away from where we are in midtown manhattan. you had maybe 25, 50 protesters out there this morning chanting bank of america, bad for america. obviously, the backlash continues against the banks from this group. at the same time, i spoke to a lot of members of "occupy wall street" this morning and asked them are you more organized than you are in october because you don't have that sense of location and, has your message changed at all? our message has not changed. we want to keep people in our home and affordable health care. we want to change laws, not just the conversation. i did speak to one "occupy" member, aaron black and i asked him, are you still sending this message that it's not okay to be wealthy and make money and really achieve that american dream? here's his answer. take a listen. >> it's okay to make money. having money is not a crime. what's immoral is when you use money to hurt people. this thing is not going to get any better until the 99% becomes

100%. >> and that, kyra, is the key i think so far today. the groups aren't that big, we're told they're going to get a lot bigger this afternoon. a group of about 200 marching over from brooklyn into manhattan. but the key is, that they're trying to attract the masses. they didn't do that in zuccotti park. some people frankly in the 99% felt alienated from the movement. they are reaching out and organizing with unions and labor and trying to attract the masses. we just want a sensible middle class existence in this country. we'll head out with the camera with the group, march with them downtown all day and see if this movement gets bigger. i'm told it will, but they need a lot more people if they want to send that message today. >> we'll check in with you, poppy, thanks so much. we'll head over out west now to san francisco where commuters are feeling the impact there. the may day protests have shut down ferry service and bridge and bus workers, rather are

picketing. dan simon is there in san francisco watching all that for us. so, dan, what's the situation for commuters right now? we're looking at, what, 8:13 on the west coast. >> well, in terms of the morning commute, things seem to be moving okay. you can see the traffic, these are folks getting off the golden gate bridge and this is the traffic coming from marine county and you can just imagine what would have happened if protesters made good on their threat to shut the golden gate bridge down. there would have been tremendous grid lock. that's why you're seeing policeorpolice officers here. just in case protesters do, decide to shut the golden gate bridge down. we're not seeing any evidence of that at this point. the only real confrontation we've seen thus far is folks who went to the mission district last night and started vandalizing the local police station there. busted out windows at various businesses and, so, that's

really the only flash point. at this point we mentioned a disruption to the ferry service across the bridge but service is expected to be restored some time this afternoon. kyra? >> so, it looks like there's protests in oakland, as well, is that right? >> well, there actually expect to be protests all throughout the san francisco bay area today. there's going to be a rally in oakland later this afternoon and, of course, we all remember what happened a few months ago when the "occupy" protests first got going in oakland. that violent protest or confrontation with police and we don't want to see a repeat of that tonight. so, i would expect, again, to see a lot of police officers patrolling the streets making sure that we don't see a repeat of what happened. kyra? >> dan simon, all right, we'll talk to you on the west coast and poppy harlow in new york. we have coast-to-coast covered for you. if you have a problem with facebook's newest change.

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that was facebook mark zuckerberg on "good morning america" talking about organ donation. now, you can change your facebook status to show that you're a donor and you can show th that information with anyone wondering what kind of impact that could have because right now in the u.s., there are actually 157 million facebook users and 114,000 people on transplant lists. so, how did zuckerberg come up with the idea? >> recently, you know, when the tornadoes came through in missouri, a lot of people were using facebook to organize and return items that were lost. in japan, people were using

facebook to help locate their friends and family. so we figured, okay, could we do anything that would help people solve other types of issues like all of the people who need organ donation. >> well, that was just one of the inspirations, the others, friend steve jobs who had a liver transplant and a dinner conversation with zuckerberg's girlfriend. >> she's going to be a pediatrician so our dinner conversations are, you know, often about facebook and kids and the kids that she's meeting and she'll see them getting sicker and then all of a sudden, an organ becomes available and she comes home and her, i don't know, it's like her face is all lit up because someone's life is going to be better because of this. >> digital tech expert shellie palmer joining me now. shellie, is there a downside to this? >> i don't think so. i think it's outstanding in every way. there's an interesting question that comes up, if you decide you're going to be an organ donor on facebook and you

haven't elected that on your driver's license, i think in the information age, that will set us up for a great set of questions and dialogue. but on balance, you have to applaud the effort by facebook. what a fantastic thing to do. what a great gift to offer people. >> i know you're not a doctor, but if you look at the number of facebook users and then the number of people who need some kind of transplant, this could save lives. >> it's unquestion bable it cou save lives. it puts it forefront in the national dialogue. we are talking about organ donation and organ transplants and facebook just started that conversation with the 800 million people on facebook that would be enough. i do think it will save lives and i also think it's very, very important for us to now talk about privacy, now talk about how this really affects us because this is one of the very first episodes in our new digital lives. we're going to make an election to do something on facebook that is going to impact our lives in

the real world. it's no longer just our virtual facebook friends. we're talking about having an impact on people's real lives. by the way, 20 years ago i said there is a computer program that will end one in five marriages, you would have laughed at me. that's facebook. >> well, you brought something up about driver's license. you know, we check whether we're a donor or not, i've checked it on my driver's license. my guess is you have, too. facebook, for those who facebook and say they'd be a donor but they don't have it on their driver's license, one take precedence over another? >> that is to be determined. you know, it's interesting. five, ten years ago i decided to become an organ donor, but i didn't want to change my driver's license. last time i had a birthday, i checked the box and my new driver's license said that. my wife said, wow, you're an organ donor when she saw my

license six months later. it's very interesting to see how this will impact us in our daily lives. one, mark zuckerberg and company put this in place because it's a wonderful thing to have put in place. number two, from my perspective as a guy who spends a lot of time in tech, this is a great opportunity for us as a society to start thinking about, which does take precedence? my driver's license, my facebook profile? what is going to be published and what's going to take precedence, what does my living will look like? is that going to be digatized. >> this is just the beginning. >> it is just the beginning. >> they're going to have many more dinner dates and discussions and many more ideas. >> i hope they are this productive, i really do. >> no kidding. shelly palmer, thanks so much. delta airlines is getting into the oil business, looking to cut jet fuel bill by $300 million a year. will they pass the savings on to you? c'mon dad!

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all right. jet fuel price soaring, what is an airline to do? maybe just take matters into its own hands. that's exactly what delta is doing. actually going to buy an oil refinery in trainer, pennsylvania. christine romans went there to learn more about this deal. >> reporter: what happened here will keep these in the air. it's jet fuel. delta airlines have secured 80% of its jet fuel needs cutting out the middle man. buying this idle refinery for $150 million. delta airlines is entering the oil refinery business. >> when we heard about it two months ago, we said no way in the world. >> reporter: what is happening? >> delta is going to try something really interesting. they're looking at it and saying we're tired of paying $10 or more over the price of crude, which is expensive for jet fuel.

>> reporter: reaching throughout the northeast, including its hubs at new york jfk, laguardia airports. >> the refinery might cost $150 million, $200 million, from a perspective from an airline like delta, that is less than they would pay for an aircraft. >> reporter: delta plans to spend an additional $100 million to upgrade this facility to produce as much jet fuel as possible. it's jet fuel delta wants. it will trade the gasoline and diesel that comes out of here with other refiners for more fuel for its planes. christine romans, cnn, trainer, pennsylvania. >> ali will weigh in on this because him and christine wrote the book on all things fuel, airlines and where there's christine, there's ali. what does delta know about running a refinery or does it

not know and this is the time to hire a bunch of experts? >> they have. they have a refinery operator who is going to run it. it was my first question when i talked to delta. is this weird that you're running an airline and now run a refinery. it is their biggest cost. as christine said, they're getting this thing for 150 million bucks and they'll spend $100 million rebuilding. they are getting it at a deep discount and they think they'll save $300 million on fuel a year by doing this. they sell, as xris teen said, the excess that they don't use and jet fuel is the highest margin of all the things you can make in great quantity out of a barrel of oil. i have to tell you, carol, this is quite innovative. i don't know what it will hold for them down the road, but interesting thinking. >> will we see a discount now or will it cost us more? how is it going to impact us overall as a flier? >> so, delta is going to pay less for its fuel, in theory.

if this works out well, delta pays less for its fuel and sells some fuel and this brings down costs for delta versus united continental and american and usair and the other main line carriers. what they do with that savings is still to be seen. do they take it to the shareholders and increase wages, do they pass it on to the consumer? who knows. but one way or another it makes them more competitive. this is not going to cost you more, let's put it that way. some chance it could cost you less, but it somehow is going to make delta a healthier airline. what they do with the money is anybody's guess. >> do you think other airlines will sit on the sidelines and see what happens and if, indeed, this works or do you think other airlines are already thinking, i think i'm going to do that, too. >> this works in certain places. the northeast has some good refineries and the spider web network that goes out to other major cities and this is outside of philadelphia which is not a big city for delta, but new york is. and they've got pipelines. delta is also big and it's got a

lot of cash. it's not the kind of thing that anybody can figure out doing. but i guarantee you all the airlines are sitting around and watching this very closely to see whether it is worth it. a lot of stars came together on this one. an available refinery that was being idled and being sold for very little money in the northeast where delta needs access to fuel. i'm going to follow it very closely and i'll let you know if anyone else is thinking of doing the same thing. >> sounds great. thank you so much, ali. >> good to see you, kyra. stocks are rallying on wall street after closing down yesterday. dow industrials up 96 points. that is good news for us. we'll take a quick break, we'll be right back. a party? [ music plays, record skips ] hi, i'm new ensure clear. clear, huh? my nutritional standards are high. i'm not juice or fancy water, i'm different. i've got nine grams of protein. twist my lid. that's three times more than me!

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>> brought shame on our police force and government and we should all be ashamed when we think how we was before them for so long. british parliamentary panel investigating phone hacking. the committee today found rupert murdoch not to be fit and a proper person to run a major international company. dan rivers standing by in london, he has been monitoring everything that has been happening there for us for days. tell us exactly what that means, dan. >> well, they found that he wasn't a fit person to run an international company. basically, that is implying that

or sort of second guessing really what the tv relulator here has to rule on. at the moment which decides whether you're allowed to have a license is trying to weigh up whether the murdoch empire is a person to have a broadcast license. the selection committee in this report came up saying he was not a fit person to exercise the stewardship of a major international company was their exact wording. if they also agree with this report, it could potentially be disastrous for rupert murdoch. it would mean that he's unable to able to hold his 39% stake in the british broadcast, which is a cash cow for news corp. in terms of their global earnings and also increase pressure on rupert murdoch from shareholders and the board of news corp. to possibly step aside because they would argue perhaps that he and

he alone is the main obstacle to not being able to broadcast in the usa. >> are they saying that mentally he's not all there? >> no they're saying, they used the word fit. they didn't say fit and proper, it is important because that is slightly different. they said he was not a fit person to exercise the studwardship of a major company. all that basically means is that they feel he has presided over a culture in which it is acceptable to lie to parliament and to blackmail people and to cover up wrongdoing and have a company in which it is perfectly acceptable to break the law by hacking into people's phones and pay off policemen and so on. they they're all saying the corporate governance and the

tone that they set at the very top of the company is down to rupert murdoch and he has failed to set the proper tone of corporate governance. >> we'll follow it. that's for sure, dan rivers. thank you so much. if you think drug addicts are the only ones that go through withdrawal, you're wrong. every hour one baby is in prescription drug withdrawal. that's roughly, 13,500 babies a year. nearly triple the number since 2000. the main reason, the number of pregnant women addicted to powerful prescription pain killers. these findings are in the journal of the american medical association. elizabeth cohen is joining us. explain it me. you and i have had kids, you don't take prescription pain killers. it's just a no-no. why are these moms taking it? are they being prescribed these? what's the background? >> these women for the most part are coming into pregnancy

already addicted. they're already addicted to pain killers and they get pregnant and they're addicted, so they keep taking it. this is not, i think we all have this image of an addict of someone in a gutter somewhere or something. some of these are like suburban mommies who you and i know and they are -- >> what, chronic back pain and just always taking them and kept taking them through a pregnancy. >> could be they had a surgery and were legitimate prescribed a pain killer like a vicodin or something like that and they got addicted. you and i heard those stories and reported those stories and then they get pregnant and they are really stuck because they just can't stop taking it when they're pregnant. that could harm the baby. there is not a lot of great options. obstetricians are stuck trying to manage this, you know, addicted woman with a baby and it's hard to know exactly what to do. >> how sick are these babies? >> these babies, when they're born, are pretty sick. they are irritable, they have these piercing screams. you can see them here cnn shot this video in knoxville,

tennessee, recently. they can't be comforted. they have trouble eating. they don't suck well, they vomit a lot, they have seizures and they have to be sort of, it could take months to sort of get them off of this and to withdraw them and sometimes they have to be given small doses of morphine to withdraw them from the prescription drugs. >> that's the solution? that's the most common solution? >> yes. >> there has to be long-term effects? >> this is a relatively new phenomenon, they're not sure about the long-term effects. they see the kids go through withdrawal and then they go on to be fine. we don't want to say these kids are doomed to a terrible life of drug addiction, because that doesn't seem to be the case. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. a story we told you about yesterday. 6-month-old avery has died. she had a rare genetic condition

called spinal muscular atrophy. doctors gave her two years to live, so her parents put together a bucket list for her. things to do before she died. well, it was their way to make every day count for their little girl. and this past weekend, she got to go to her first baseball game. and it was in her father's loving arms as he threw out the first pitch. crossing more things off the list, another thing they can cross off making us all smile. well, conservative, mormon, african-american, if elected, gop sensation mia love will make history. becoming the first black republican congresswoman. she joins me live, next. clear, ? my nutritional standards are high. i'm not juice or fancy water, i'm different. i've got nine grams of protein. twist my lid. that's three times more than me! twenty-one vitamins and minerals and zero fat! hmmm. you'll bring a lot to the party.

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it is an nuls, rare combination. especially in politics. a conservative republican who is morm mormon, african-american in utah. yet mia love is all those things and she is making huge waves in the grand old party. love is the mayor of saratoga springs in utah and she's pulled off a major upset, winning the republican party's nomination for the state's fourth congressional district. if love wins the general election, she could make history as potentially the first black republican woman in congress. mia love joining us now live. mia, great to see you. >> thank you, thank you for having me. >> i tell you what, you fascinate me. conservative, mormon, african-american woman living in utah, you're a daughter of haitian immigrants. anything else that you want to tell me that makes you even more

unbelievably unique? >> well, i don't know if it's unbelievably unique, but i run also and i enjoy running because it just keeps my head straight and keeps my priorities and makes sure my body is healthy. i love running. >> we're going to throw that in, too. the next thing i need to look for is how you're going to win the boston marathon. i'll keep my eye on that. what folks have been saying about you. your win for the fourth congressional district is getting a lot of attention and bigwigs like eric cantor and budget chair paul ryan are endorsing you, giving money to your campaign. what are these gop insiders saying to you, mia? what do they expect from you? what do they want to see from you? why are they supporting you? >> i don't think they came in with an agenda. i came in and talked to them, i talked to them about utah's principles and belief and they were just right there and they said, you know, we'd love to

have your help. we'd love to have you in the u.s. house and they came out early to help with the campaign and i appreciate it. >> you had to have face some challenges. tell me what has been the biggest challenge so far and do you feel conflicted about anything that the gop stands for and how do you deal with that? >> well, challenges. there's always going to be challenges. you know, there are a lot of people who have tried to define me as a person and i don't allow, i'm not a victim, i don't allow myself or myself to put me in a box. so, you know, those are things that people will try and they may be some challenges but utah, i have to tell you, i love this place and i love the people that are here and i represent all their beliefs and those values and, so, i'm really excited to represent them and be the republican nominee? >> let me ask you as republican nominee, you're mormon, do you think mitt romney should talk more about his religion and talking more about being a

mormon? >> those aren't the issues that americans really care about. americans care about jobs and they care about themy and they care about the debt and deficit spending and those are the things that he's rrb focused on and i think he should just stay on message. in terms of being who he is, it is part of who he is as being a person and i don't think it should deter as the issue. >> you are not this atypical cookie cutter republican. you're so diverse in many ways. santorum was up and then down and then mitt romney was up and down and mitt romney in there and definitely the party is divided. what do they need to do, mia, the gop? >> i think they need to get their messaging correct. i think what we need to do is find a cause and really get the people to rally behind that cause. they really need to take their messaging to the people. we need to remember who we

represent and saratoga springs, being a mayor there. i've worked where the rubber meets the road and i meet where people, i make decisions and they directly affect people and we have to remember, that's who we represent. we represent the people on the ground and that's what we need to do when it comes to the presidential elections, also. they still represent people. >> and you are poised to break a major barrier and i know this is the wrong party, but let me ask you about president barack obama because he did break many barriers. what were your feelings then when he won the presidency and how do you feel about him now? >> oh, well, how do i feel about him now? the greatest honor i can do to the american people is to judge the president based on his policies and his actions. and i believe that his policies haven't been in step with what the american people really want. we've, i mean, we're losing jobs. we've got, we're educating children on a federal level,

we're controlling lands on a federal level. we are regulating each business and government has grown so out of control in terms of what it's supposed to do. and, you know, it's too bad. we really need to start turning the tide so that we can get this country back on its feet. >> mia love, we'll be watching. what do you kids think about all this, by the way? >> oh, they're so excited. this is a family event. everybody is in this and we're really excited to go and really make some differences and be a really good role model and represent utah's values. so, my kids are really excited. my husband is incredibly supportive and we're ready. >> we'll be watching. mia, thanks for talking with me today. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> you bet. osama bin laden campaign warfare. should it be off limits? that's fair game. this at&t 4g network is fast.

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>> it's been one year since navy seals stormed the compound and killed the most wanted man, osama bin laden. it was a big day for america and president barack obama. should have the ended there?

how do you feel about hyping this as a campaign pitch? cnn contributors, maria, fair game? >> absolutely it's fair game. because look. at the very beginning of the bush administration right after 9/11 when they went in and did not find bin laden it was the beginning of de-emphasizing the focus on bin laden and going into the ill-conceived war in iraq. it was the bush administration policy, romney agreed with it which is what came from his comment of not wanting to move heaven and earth to go after bin laden. secondly, he also said romney said that he disagreed with obama's policy of wanting to go into pakistan if they had actionable intelligence without the help of the pakistani government. he called those comments ill-conceived and misguided. so right there we have proof that mitt romney would not have, according to his own words, would not have acted under the same circumstances that president obama did.

and gates, robert gates, his defense secretary, and everybody that was part of his defense team has called it the most courageous move they have seen a president make. and biden actually advised against it. it was a 50/50 proposition, not a slam dunk. it was a very courageous move on his part so absolutely it's fair game, one of his greatest accomplishments. >> dana. >> i think maria misunderstands what taking credit for something that happened on your watch and being proud of something that happened on your watch, then opening yourself up to political attack by using it in a political attack ad that is so embarrassing the navy seals themselves come out and say yeah, that was a really bad move. not only that but there was that memo that "time" magazine got from leon panetta that shows it was admiral mcgraven that made a lot of the decisions. i'm not someone saying that barack obama shouldn't get credit at all. i was super happy, i was like every other american the night

that we heard bin laden was captured. i did a victory lap around my house for america i was so happy. but at the same time seeing this a year later come in a political attack ad against mitt romney and disingenuously using a edited quote from plit mitt, this quote from romney they cut it in half. romney wasn't saying they shouldn't have gone after bin laden. that bin laden is the figure head and the war on terror doesn't stop just because bin laden is captured and he went into how he would have a plan to execute this plan to combat global jihad. it's telling that the obama campaign left that full quote out of that campaign ad. >> ladies, see if i can get one more question here. 90 seconds. hey, you know. two ladies go. >> you got it. >> a key adviser said that mitt romney now has around 20 names on his v.p. list. okay. maria, 20 names on a list.

what does that say to you? >> i think that says that right now they are all over the place but i think that's fine. he's got time to make this decision. i think they certainly have not really focused on the kinds of character -- the characteristics or the background or the type of person that they want as the vice president, from everything i read and i know nothing as the insider and dana might, but what i have heard is that mitt romney is probably going to go for somebody who is safe, not a game changer, not somebody who is flashy, he can't afford anybody -- >> dana, you agree? do you agree and what's interesting is chris christie is not necessarily saying no. >> i know. >> i do kind of agree with maria. i don't think they know what they are going to do. i don't think chris christie would be a good choice because you lose regional diversity with chris christie on the ticket. there is the chance that romney

would be completely overshadowed with chris christie because he has such a big personality. this man is a sound bite factory. he is not afraid of a camera, abds he'll tell people what he thinks and i think that would scare the romney campaign. please condoleezza rice consider. >> dana, maria, thank you. appreciate it. >> disgusted, that's how the wife of a campaign ad feels about things when she claims she was asked to specifically deal with money donated from a 101-year-old woman. we've got more on that. people with a machine.

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>> john edwards' legal team can't wait to grill sherry young. she's the wife of edwards' former aide andrew young, the man who hid the mistress. she could be cross-examined today. joe johns is in greensboro, north carolina. >> reporter: sherry young expected back on the stand in greensboro for another day of testimony in the john edwards campaign finance trial. she was excused early on monday because she said she wasn't feeling well. sherry young controlled the bank accounts where she deposited hundreds of thousands of dollars from a wealthy john edwards donor, she's important to the prosecution's case because she says edwards told her this was all legal and instructed her to, quote, get the money in the bank. she also explained why she agreed to allow her husband and

the father of her three children to take credit for fathering a child with edwards' mistress. she said she went along with it because her husband said it was the only way to cover up the truth and she said she did not want to be responsible for exploding the presidential campaign of john edwards. in greensboro, i'm joe johns. >> she also testified she melt disgusted after being asked to endorse and deposit checks from a 101-year-old heiress. she knew the funds were intended to pay hunter's expenses. thanks for watching. continue the conversation with me on twitter or on facebook. "cnn newsroom" continues with suzanne malveaux. live from washington where it's 12 noon, i'm suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed

for tuesday, may 1. up first this hour, we're covering developments on two major stories, first on the anniversary of the raid that killed osama bin laden word of a potential threat, body bombs. a source confirms new concerns about bombs being implanted in passengers on flights bound for the u.s. we're going to talk with fran townsend. our other big story, mayday protests across the country and around the world, the occupy movement is behind the demonstrations. in other countries crowds taken to the streets to mark international workers day. live reports from here and overseas. >> one year ago, an elite team of navy seals raided a compound in pakistan and killed the most wanted man in the world, osama bin laden. now we are learning about new possible threats including the use of bombs implanted inside the bodies of terrorists. i want to bring in our national security contributor fran

townsend. tell us about this new information concern now that you have people implanted with body bombs boarding flights headed to the country. >> reporter: we heard about this threat a year ago, and there was some concern. now i think we're learning more from the raid, from the documents found in the raid, and we see that there's on the eve of the anniversary there were warnings issued that there was continued concern about targeting western aviation. this obviously pose as particular challenge to screeners. there are things that they do, you know, screeners now get the behavior training to look for anomalies, you have the back scatter x-ray that identify some, not necessarily internal. but when you put them all together, including the hand swipes that most of us have been through at the airport, all of that taken together helps identify explosive residue that would be present if someone tried to insert a bomb in their

body. >> fran, do we think this is a serious threat t the fact they are now using these kinds of bombs and it is so invasive here? i mean, are there weaknesses in our own security systems to deal with this kind of thing? >> reporter: you know, while there are concerns about this, we haven't seen evidence that they have tried to do this. the closest thing that we know of is an attempt against mohammed binai the head of the saudi security service that was reported as having been an internal bomb. it was not. and so we haven't seen them use this, often they think about it, they try it, but we haven't seen them deploy it yet and it's giving security officials the opportunity to put together this matrix of counter measures that allows them to try to identify such a thing before somebody could get through screening. >> let's talk about something else, new information from the fbi today about an alleged plot, a foiled plot in ohio, agents have arrested at least five people accused of plotting to blow up a bridge near cleveland.

how was that attack thwarted and what do we know about these individuals? >> reporter: over the last year we've seen an increasing use by law enforcement of these undercover officers who basically go through a sting operation. they identify those involved in the plot, here five individuals who wanted to blow up anarchists, identified as an irkists who wanted to blow up this bridge. they had -- they controlled -- the fbi controlled the explosive so they were inert. they put things in it so it was never a real explosive device. the individuals actually constructed what they believed to be a c-4 explosive bomb, they placed them at the base of the bridge, they planned to detonate them and went to the trouble of making sure they were going to remotely detonate them from a place where they would have an alibi so they could deny their involvement. so this went pretty far. as the fbi makes the point because it was an undercover sting operation there was never a real threat to the public. >> do they think this is a small group or are they working with

other individuals? does this represent a bigger threat or bigger organization that's going after folks? >> you know, we don't really know that, suzanne. typically in the course of an investigation you let that investigation run until you identify all those you believe pose a threat, then you wrap them up all at the same time f. there is a continuing and ongoing investigation to see if this goes further obviously the fbi hasn't said anything. >> and finally, fran, tell us about this is a rather bizarre case here, recent discovery of a disc that was in the underwear of an al qaeda operative, this disc that was discovered contain add pornographic video but inside there was more than 100 al qaeda documents outlining future possible attacks. what are the details? what do we know? >> the use of pornographic material by al qaeda is not new. interesting, in the 2006 liquid plot using plain planes out of heathrow airport we understood

after the investigation that the plan was to put pornography magazines through the screeners to distract them from bomb components so the use of pornography is not new. we know that in the bin laden raid there was a tremendous amount of pornography captured there. not clear whether he was watching it or going to be used as a ruse. this sort of pulls it together, this makes more sense that they would try to embed this sort of material and in pornography that might distract investigators. they may not realize it was even there. >> all right. fran, thank you very much. >> to may day protests. international workers day. >> who did you foreclose today. >> you got demonstrations under way across the country, around the world. you're looking here, this one at new york. we are also seeing san francisco, istanbul, havana,

moscow and hong kong. protests in american cities part of the occupy movement against economic inequality. spread nationwide as you recall. organizers today trying to rejuvenate this movement. joining these global demonstrations. we've got reporters on the front line in several cities. i want to go to poppy harlow in new york. give us a sense what if the turnout is like there. >> reporter: it's a lot more than it was an hour ago. we've been here since 7:00 a.m. when there were 20 people. i would say in the range of 250 to 400 people here. you've got a lot of tourists, onlookers et cetera. suzanne, the big -- and this protester is telling me 500 to 700 people. so you pick the number but the group is getting bigger, getting ready to march. i'll show you what they are doing. they are getting ready to march down to union square. then they are going to march on to wall street. the message here is mixed but

what it has been often is economic disparity, inequality. i've seen a lot of signs that say pay the 1%. still seeing that. i talked this morning to a number of occupy members and they told me what we're fighting for is a middle class. we're fighting for economic justice, and what they said to me that stood out to me is that we will not succeed until we are the 100%. the fact that they are gathering with workers, with union workers et cetera, they are trying to bring more people into this movement, more than in zukate park. i'm seeing dancing. trying to make it not just on about what we saw in the fall. >> thank you, poppy. cross country now, dan, it's supposed to be a test of occupy staying power. how does it look? >> reporter: right now things look okay in san francisco. we're at the entrance of the golden gate bridge.

the traffic is moving but there is a heavy police presence today because there was concern that occupy protesters would try to shut down the golden gate bridge. we haven't seen evidence of that. but you do have police on hand. meanwhile, there are some problems for people who live in marin county. specifically in the communities of larksberg and sausalito. workers are on strike. some need another way to get to work or they stay home. we also saw problems last night in the mission district in san francisco, there was sam vandalism. protesters got an early start, about 9:00 at night. usually they do things after midnight. but 9:00. they started busting windows, they also went to the local police station, there is some graffiti. right now things looking okay but we'll keep an eye on it. >> thank you, dan. los angeles now, casey is

joining us live from the airport at l.a.x., what's the situation where you are? >> reporter: you can see behind me a group of workers gathered here to begin pickets, part of a group called a one-day strike here at los angeles international airport. what they are upset about today in the short-term is the fact that some of the airlines here, los angeles international airport, are using non-union subcontracted lab tear do things like clean airplanes inside the airplanes and they want those jobs to go to union workers and they want higher wages. right now it's a very small group, in a couple of hours we expect a much larger group. they say they are going to try to disrupt airport operations. los angeles police officials have been aware for a couple of weeks and preparing for that. they believe they can stop that from happening. we do know that 18 of these protesters have agreed to engage in some unspecified sort of civil disobedience which means they will likely be arrested.

we saw a group of police officers arriving a few minutes ago with plastic ties, definitely preparing to arrest people if things get out of hand. later this afternoon these workers are going to dwoun town los angeles where they are going to join a much larger groom. suzanne. >> all right, casey, thanks. oversea as big turnout in turkey. ivan watts season joining us live from istanbul. this is a diverse of demonstrators. what are the messages they are trying to send? >> reporter: pretty diverse mix, suzanne. hard to believe a few hours ago there were tens of thousands of people behind me. the square in central istanbul shut down with an eclectic group of leftists, labor unions, environmentalists, women's rights activists, kurdish nationalists, transgender activists, even a new islamist group that was protesting against capitalism. basically anybody who had a

voice, wanted to have their voice expressed was out here and that's a big change from this country. may day demonstrations were banned in this square for 30 years, suzanne, up until a couple years ago when the government started to allow to the take place. i have seen running battles with tear gas and police and demonstrators in years gone by. today mostly peaceful. and a stark difference from european capitals, countries like france and greece and portugal, which have been hit hard by a financial crisis and economic recession, turkey's economy has grown by 8.5% the last year so the people here, they are criticizing their government, calling for their own array of agendas but not worried about the austerity programs that are hitting western european countries right now. >> ivan watson, thank you. obviously you're looking at may day as well as occupy protests around the country and around

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explosives and agents say the explosive material was not operational, that the public was never in danger. the one-year anniversary of the raid that killed osama bin laden word of another potential threat, body bombs, a source confirms his concern about bombs being implanted in passengers on flights bound for the u.s. the government official says steps are being taken to guard against this, increasing security on flights headed to the u.s. from the middle east, the uk and other parts of europe. so, if you need to update your facebook status you can choose organ donor as an option. it's going to appear with other personal information in a section called health and wellness. mark zuckerberg made the announcement. >> recently when the tornados came through in missouri, a lot of people were using facebook to organize and return items lost in japan people were using

facebook to locate friends and family. we figured could we do anything that would help people solve other issues, like all of the people who need organ donation. >> pretty cool. so, would you want to see a plane crash from inside the cabin as it happens? a tv crew did and they intentionally crashed a passenger jet. no one was hurt of course. the pilot ejected and the crash dummies were belted in as passengers. the series will explore questions about how to make plane crashes more survivable. the episode is set to air later this year on t"the discovery channe channel". gas prices getting you down? try making your own fuel. delta airlines solution for cutting costs. what it could mean for the price at the pump.

next time you're standing at the gas pump filling up realizing it's going to cost you an arm and leg you might start thinking wow, wouldn't it be great to have your own refinery. you might not be able to afford one. delta can. it's going to make its own fuel. tell us a little about this. delta spends what, more th $11 billion last year, buying fuel. and so now they are purchasing what today? how do they hope to save money? >> reporter: they are pretty much buying the cow, right, to supply the milk. delta is buying an oil refinery for $150 million. this is an important part. they are buying this refinery in trainor, pennsylvania, it gives delta this pipeline access to new york's airport so the oil can be delivered to the big hubs

like jfk and laguardia. what this is going to do it's going to use oil that delta purchases from bp and refine it at its own refinery into jet fuel. for delta this is a big deal. it will save them $300 million a year. this is important because jet fuel is delta's biggest cost. before it bought this, delta bought fuel like it bought peanuts, from somebody else so it was at the mercy of speculation in the oil market. if delta didn't buy the fuel they couldn't fly. they need so it they have no choice but to pay the going price that they were quoted. now delta is trying to control that by taking the oil traders right out of the equation. >> so alison, we're getting our peanuts now on delta, that's a good thing. everybody wants to know whether or not is this going to make any difference in the cost of the ticket? does this mean our ticket prices are going to go down or is this more profits for delta?

>> that's what everybody wants to know. to be honest i think it's too soon to say. in theory if delta cuttings its costs it could wind up passing those along. but i got to tell you that's a big if because the airline industry is very, very volatile and it's kinds of at the mercy of the economy. how the economy is doing. you think about what happened to the industry after 9/11, after the recession, you saw airlines went bankrupt, they merged, cut flights, so what you may see delta doing is stock piling cash and if delta does wind up giving a little back by cutting prices it probably won't be for a while. delta isn't going to start refining this fuel until the end of summer. >> do we think any of the other airlines are going to follow suit? >> reporter: that's a good question. they often follow each other. we see ticket price goes up even with union negotiations but this is going to depend on how successful delta is. think about it. it's a huge investment and other carriers may not be able to afford so it they may sit back

and see how delta, how this works for delta, then maybe decide. of course they have to check their own bank accounts to see if they have enough to buy their own refineries. >> check your bank account first. thank you. good to see you. so will americans vote for a candidate with a swiss bank account? that is obama campaign's latest strategy to attack mitt romney. is it going to backfire? we'll throw to the our political panel. in here, great food demans a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our customers. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪

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here is a rundown of some of the stories we're working on. silver spoons, swiss bank accounts, allegations of class warfare. both sides ramping up the attacks in the fight for the white house. you don't have to be tall to be tough. how a tiny hero saved a child trapped in a storm drain. and later, heads are rolling in the british hacking scandal and the ruler after media empire may have been knocked off his throne. on the anniversary of the

raid that killed osama bin laden debate over politicizing this. it's a red hot topic. republicans criticized president obama over an ad. mitt romney is firing back. i want to bring in our political team to talk about that and much more. democratic simon rosenberg founder of president of ndn, it's a think tank in washington. and republican chris metsler, professor at georgetown. so i want both of you to listen in. this is mitt romney talking about this whole bin laden issue and this was on cbs morning news earlier today. >> you begin with this romney wouldn't have gone after osama bin laden. these silly kinds of attacks like what has that got to do with getting our economy growing. of course i would have taken out osama bin laden but what's the right course for the economy? >> simon, do we think that this is going to resonate? do people care about this hypothetical scenario over what

romney would have done or are they focused on what is affecting their lives? >> this is absolutely, in the last presidential election there was a big debate what to do about osama bin laden. barack obama made it clear that heaswilling to go into pakistan and upset the pakistanis if he had actionable intelligence. he did it as president. mitt romney during that same period criticized prent obama, said that was the wrong action, he would never go into pakistan without pakistan's approval. on this barack obama was right, mitt romney was wrong. this is a core national security issue and something that is completely fair game in the presidential debate. i'm shocked the romney campaign is crying foul in something this central to the national security of the country. >> simon is shocked here. what do you make of simon's shock? >> shock. shock and awe. i think there are a couple of things here. first of all, the issue is not the fact that romney called this

out. the issue is certainly the president deserves credit for what he did relative to osama bin laden. that's not the issue. the issue is going back and saying we're not sure that in fact romney would have done the same. that's the political aspect of it. but i do think that in fact romney is right. look, we are concerned about jobs. we are concerned about the economy. here's the problem. the problem is, the more the president runs away from his record, and that's the issue, the issue here is the president has a record to run on this time, and he's running away from this. >> chris, can you blame the president for using the national security issue to his advantage here because he has had numerous successes and the latest of which was the bin laden capture and kill here. doesn't it make sense that he would highlight that? >> highlight it yes. but i think here's the thing. highlight it yes. but to question what in fact a president romney would have done? that for me is the problem. so, absolutely you should highlight it. i'm not suggesting that he

shouldn't. but in fact, to politicize it by questioning, keep in mind this is the same president who was concerned that hillary called him out with the 3:00 a.m. ad. we didn't know what he would do as president. just like we don't know what romney would do as president. that's the issue. >> we do, suzanne -- >> let's turn the corner for a moment and talk about a potential running mate for romney. we saw that the new jersey governor chris christie, he says okay, i'm not interested but he might be -- romney might be able to persuade him. listen to this. >> what i said before i have no interest in being vice president, but if governor romney called and asked me to talk to him about it i'd listen. you owe the nominee of your party that level of respect and who know what is he's going to say. he might be able to convince me. he's a convincing guy. >> simon, he might be able to convince him. what would a chris christie running mate do for romney? >> we're going to go through this, submit auditioning his

various future vice presidential picks. we've seen him in new hampshire, we saw marco rubio. he's got time to make his decision. my view the is that rob portman seems to have the inside track, makes the most sense. the midwest is a problem area for the republicans right now. much more so than they thought. i don't think christie brings a lot to the ticket, my own view but i'm sure my colleague's got his own take on this. >> actually, we agree. >> do you really? you agree on this one? why? >> here's the thing. i think in terms of chris christie, in a campaign you have to have surrogates. i think christie would make an excellent surrogate. very energetic, got to love the guy. he is who he is. but in terms of putting him on the ticket not so much. i don't think that works. i think he is probably 18 better place as a surrogate than vp, i think portman is an excellent choice, portman, mitch daniels, those are the kind of people you need. i don't think that chris

christie is it. >> so chris christie, you know, he should stick with the original line, no thank you instead of well, maybe. >> that's the best way to get the job is to say you don't want it. >> exactly. real quick. let's look at the latest obama ad targeting romney and this swiss bank account. >> what about mitt romney? as a corporate ceo he shipped american jobs to mexico and china. as governor he outsourced state jobs to a call center in india. he's still pushing tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. just what you expect from a guy that had a swiss bank account. >> i got to wrap this up real quick. simon, is he overplaying his hand? >> no. this is a big problem for mitt romney. two reasons. one is that they are -- looks like mitt romney spent years evading paying u.s. taxes why he won't release his returns. the reason why when you apply for a government job you have to

give your tax returns to the government, is to make sure there are no things that compromise national security. mitt romney has to release his returns. it's a question of when. >> good to have you both. a little boy falls 20 feet down a storm drain and only one firefighter is small enough to squeeze in and pull him out. we'll show you the rescue. >> time for the health desk. joining me is greg olsen a certified financial planner. lynette is the founder of the financial advice blog. thanks for being here. greg, first to you. i purchase mid home 20 months ago and have a 30-year fixed loan at 4.475%. should i consider refinancing? >> you should consider it, recent drop in interest rates might make that be a smart idea. the first thing you should do is

look to maybe do a modification with your bank because that would be the least expensive option. should that not be available look to do a refinance but cal dlat refinancing costs. and see how long the savings on a monthly basis will take to you recoup the refining. >> you have to think about the cost. thank you. lynette, your question is from phil in colorado. i'm 69 and have a large portion of my savings in mutual funds. how should i allocate my assets? >> tough to give specific advice without knowing his full financial picture. two things for somebody who is 69 thinking about their investment strategy. too often i think older people retirees or preretirees go too conservative. they want to preserve their principle. we're living longer than ever so you could live potentially decades in retirement. you want to be broadly diversified. you want to have growth to power your portfolio so don't just

think it has to be cds or money market accounts. make sure you do have a mix of stocks in there as well. stocks, bonds, cash, obviously you've got to get the right asset allocation. you need a professional to sit down and review your situation. >> absolutely. thank you both. if you've got questions you want answered send us an e-mail to the cnn help desk. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money ?

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todayis may 1, it's may day known around the world as international workers day commemorating the historic struggle of working people. here in the united states may

day is typically not even recognized though it began in chicago, the 1880s the fight for an eight-hour work day. this year occupy wall street movement has called for may day protests. demonstrations in new york, occupy organizers have joined the immigrant rights movement, the labor movement and student movement across the country to demand economic justice. former white house adviser van jones, a supporter of the occupy movement, he is also president and founder of rebuild the dream, it's a platform for folks the to restore good jobs and economic opportunity. so, van, good to see you. i understand you have a book out as well entitled "rebuild the dream." you are watching this? >> bestseller. >> a shameless plug there, van. let's talk about what's happening. you've got these protests across the country. what happened to this movement,

the occupy movement? it almost seems like it spurted, grew, then it dropped off the map. now we see them again. what's the point of today? >> well, you wonder why these people are out protesting. it's pretty simple. the occupation of wall street by the protesters did come to an end in the fall. but the occupation by wall street and other big money interests of the nation's capital is on going. you have thousands of lobbyists in washington, d.c. keeping the people's business from going forward and as long as you have the job problem that we've got, education being unaffordable, the housing crisis on going there is still this pent up desire for change and people cannot figure out how to be heard so this is -- they said in the spring they are going to come back. now the movement's back. >> van, what do you do with that, what do you do with this pent up desire to change the system or change what's happening on wall street here? some folks would look at it and say where is the change? how do you make things happen?

>> well, i'm with an organization called rebuild the dream.com, a lot of organizations, new bottom line out there, the domestic workers alliance and occupy, one of the things we're looking at the three main spring boards -- look at housing, the job numbers are getting better but the jobs are getting worse. the jobs are these crappy service sector jobs, the student loans now look at these young people protesting. every kid graduating this spring is looking down the barrel of 6.8% interest rate on student loans. it's a doubling of the student loan dent. the president said it's wrong. even romney says it's wrong. the republicans say they won't give the kids tuition relief or scholarship support or any loans unless they can raid the mammogram fund and take women's health away. d.c. is totally kind of crashed

into itself. and the problems keep getting worse. that's why people are protesting. they don't see any action on the problems they care about. >> so here's my question here. they don't see action. we're looking at these pictures. it's very impressive to see these groups, the numbers, the kind of passion that people have. this is across the country, across the worldment but is it about bringing attention to the issues today? how do you move it beyond today, beyond the protests aspect of this? >> well, i can only speak for my organization at rebuild a dream we have a campaign at rebuild a dream.com to do something about the student loan rate that might double. there are campaigns up about that. new bottom line and rebuild the dream are working to get fannie and freddie to cut the principle on some of the underwater mortgages. when you pay your mortgage now you're draining wealth. a quarter of homes are under water. 11 million families are paying money into a house they will never get out. so there are real solutions

throughout that are not being push ped forward. that's why people are protesting. >> so far they have been peaceful. is there any fear, concern, that we might see the same kind of pictures where you have these clashes between these protesters and police and things got ugly the last go round? >> well, listen. you never know in these situations. you could have protesters that take things too far. you could have law enforcement overreact, take things too far. there are some report there is have been some preemptive actions. we won't know all of the details until tomorrow or the next day. what we do know is tomorrow or the next day we still will have job numbers going up and job quality going down, student interest rates about to go up and homeowners' wealth going down and not doing anything. until you see the occupation by wall street of washington, d.c. change, and the lobbyists get met with real people's power we will continue to have protests. >> all right.

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big headline out of evening land. rupert murdoch is not fight run his company, the assessment from british lawmakers investigating phone hacking at murdoch's news of the world tabloid.

michael, this report is really damming here. referring to murdoch, investigators say i'm quoting here, he turned a blind eye and exhibited willful blindness to what was going on in his companies and publications. this culture we consider permeated from the top and speaks volumes about the lack of effective corporate governance at news corporation and news international. what does this mean for murdoch now? >> after 50 years in the business a bit of a slap in the face. it was far more damming than a lot of people expected from this committee. interesting, the line about not a fit and proper person to run a major company. that did come from the labor side of this committee. there was a little bit of along party lines when it came to that one line. but the general report itself is damming enough. one of the big questions now being asked is whether --

remember, british sky broadcasting that rupert murdoch has 39% of going for the entire company recently, he backed off doing that because of the hacking scandal. now the question is asked whether regulatory authorities will decide whether the company should keep its license. if that were to happen the company goes belly up. that would be sky b. >> that's a huge development. news corp. says they acknowledge wrong doing and apologize for invading folks privacy. that's not the last of this. >> this has a long way to run. this is just one committee. there is another committee, inquiry under way t the lev an son inquiry looking into another aspect of the hacking and the ethics at news corporation. it's a long and bumpy road. you have three separate police inquiries going on at the moment. some 40 people have been

arrested, not charged yet. including a number of senior executives. you've got the looking into whether he is going to be a fit and proper person to hold the license, more hacking victims filing suit and even some rumblings among large investors that at the next agm whether they will call for a change at the top. this has a lot of legs. >> and michael, to wrap this up here, when somebody as powerful a figure as murdoch is said not to be fit to run a company, what do you think that means for him, someone who is as powerful and prideful as he is? >> powerful, prideful, some would say arrogant and powerful and somebody who is always, he's australian, i grew up with murdoch publications around me, as a young journalist. this is a man who rules his companies with an iron fist. he took his dad's newspaper and built it into what we see today

as news corporation. this is insulting and demeaning to him. he will be taking this very hard indeed. the criticism is broad. worth remembering that one line about fit and proper person did go along party lines in incommittee. but this would shake him to his core. he has so much self confidence and pride in himself that this has got to hurt. >> michael holmes, thank you very much. >> a little boy fall 20s feet down a storm drain and only one firefighter is small enough to squeeze in and pull him out. we're going to show you the rescue. ok! who gets occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? get ahead of it! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defend against digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. hit me!

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day in atlanta, she was the only one small enough to crawl down a storm drain to save a toddler. carl willis from wsb, he's got the story. >> wow. i am so relieved. >> reporter: that sigh of relief from the grandmother of this lucky guy. 2-year-old dornell brown after he fell down this drain on bryant street in east point sunday night. >> it's a concrete casing about 20 feet deep and a foot around. >> reporter: of all of the big firefighters working to rescue the boy, only one measured up. >> all the equipment we had, our smallest firefighter end up being the one we put in the hole. >> reporter: rosa was the perfect fit. >> it was tight but i'm small. >> reporter: darnel was with his father when slipped and fell. rosa had to put all of her skills to the test. >> it was hard to manipulate him. he was afraid and grabbing so i

couldn't bring him up. i had to push him over my head. >> reporter: back on top, darnel only had a few cuts and bruises. for this secret weapon of the fire department it's a special rescue in more ways than one. >> i have boys so it's kind of personal and it just makes it all worth coming to work and being dropped down a hole to be able to hand him their baby back. >> she is amazing. that was carl willis with cnn affiliate recording. darnel treated at the hospital for cuts and bruises, now released. hunger and desperation in manila lead to extreme measures. kids are now getting their daily food from the garbage. strategy. the same goes for my retirement. with the plan my financial advisor and i put together, a quick check and i know my retirement is on course. [ male announcer ] with wells fargo advisor's envision plan, you always know where you stand.

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so would you eat food from the trash? in the philippines many of the poor are forced to go to that extreme living off what is called old chicken scraps in the garbage. chung law reports. >> reporter: fried chicken a staple of the fast food diet in the philippines. it midisappears into the trash. when night falls the restaurants close. that trash makes its way here. >> what are you doing here? >> sorting the garbage, she

says. pog pot, food from fast garbage trash. >> you think it's good to eat? yes, she says. this one, this is meat. as ferrel cats compete. >> you don't think children will get sick? no? the chicken smells bad she says the next morning. she brought her find back home. how many people will this feed today? >> a lot, she says. i will sell out in minutes. >> her first customer buys it for about 5 u.s. cents, a day's pay for her family. she washes it, readies her pot, prepares the vegetables, and then fries it.

her toddler son nino begs to eat it. >> you know where it comes from? yes, she says. where does it come from? sometimes it comes from the garbage. you may be wondering how can one person eat another person's garbage. in this case the food chain is following the economic chain. these people, these children, are at the bottom. they live in shanltys and their view is of a garbage site. manila's garbage comes here, a 30 minute drive from the wealthy downtown. they live in it and they eat it. >> the poor always have fewer choices. they always have -- the last -- their last resorts are so beyond our imagination. >> like this. >> like this. >> reporter: melissa is with the philippine community fund, a not for profit built the school hoping to lift the children out of the garbage. but the school learned bks weren't enough.