Skip to main content

tv   Erin Burnett Out Front  CNN  May 21, 2012 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT

4:00 pm
person that you love. all right? have a conversation. a real conversation with the friends who make you think, with the family who make you laugh. don't push a button saying i like something. actually, tell them. what a concept! >> guy who makes his money off the internet telling you every now and then put it down, have a conversation. good advice there, kate. that's all the time we've got tonight. we're live in boston tonight. back here tomorrow. erin burnett out front starts right now. "out front" next. facebook's ipo took a dive today. was it a colossal mistake? steve case out front tonight. president obama criticized by members of his own party for his attacks against mitt romney. and dharun ravi sentenced for spying on his rutgers roommate who later committed suicide. his sentence -- stunning. it was fair?
4:01 pm
let's go "out front." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, facebook face down. here are some of the headlines. drudge report calls it fadebook. the "wall street journal's" headline tonight -- bankers under fire as facebook slips. bloomberg -- zuckerberg's fortune falls $2.2 billion as facebook drops. to put it mildly, one of the most highly anticipated offerings in american market history hasn't lived up to the hype, at least not yet. but look at this. facebook's stock fell as low as $33 at one point today. that's down 11% in one day. the company has lost $40 billion in market capitalization since it opened. now that sounds like a lot of money. it is. i looked it up. here's the context nap amount of money is the equivalent of losing the entire companies of hewlett-packard and tlor rocclo
4:02 pm
day. poof, gone. nasdaq's ceo says he's embarrassed by the technical glitches that delayed the stock's debut on friday. the glitches kept some traders in the dark for more than two hours. one man with a lot of advice fr for mark zuckerberg is steve case, former ceo of aol, the first internet company to go public. had he some great times and not-so-great times. he's out tonight with advice for mark zuckerberg and a plan to get more facebooks in this country. steve, great to see you. i know you've got to say i know how some of this feels wanting to pick on you. what do you think happened to facebook? >> i think it is a great company. it started eight years ago. now as 900 million users in the market cap -- it closed at something like 90 million. i think it was 10% from the offering. now it is about $90 million. it is amazing a company just started eight years ago has had that kind of success. aol went public 20 years ago. i think our market value was $70
4:03 pm
million and we raised $10 million. nobody believed the internet was real. so it is great to see a coming of able. facebook is a terrific brand and mark and i think they've done a terrific job. >> we were using the number from the first opening tick. i think -- i understand what you're saying as well. let me ask you this. you've been in this position where you were the wonder kid and everything was great. then when things weren't great everybody wants to pile on, like i said there is this shad and freud. what should mark zuckerberg do? >> what he is doing, focus on the product. ultimately markets go up and down. we saw that with aol. a decade later it was $150 billion. a couple thousand users to 20 million users. as long as you keep focusing on the product and keep innovating, that's what really matters. you can't pay too much attention to the stock price. >> one of the parts of the facebook story really connects with what you are doing in washington.
4:04 pm
edwardo savron, one of the co-founders of facebook, a billionaire, was born in brazil, came to the united states, became a citizenship and now wants it renounce it and move to singapore. obviously there are some in congress who say this is to avoid taxes. he said it isn't but it's become a big topic of conversation. you want people like him to stay in this country and you're doing something specific about it. what is it? spl it is really broader than that. i'm not doing it. four senators tomorrow morning announce the start-up act 2.0. senator warner, sneert kun, senator rubio and senator moran have worked together in a bipartisan way, two republicans and two democrats to build on the jobs act that passed with overlmg bipartisan support and signed by the president about a month ago. that focuses the start-up act 2.0, focusing particularly on winning the global battle for talent. we got to make sure we attract the best and brighters. those are the folks who start companies like facebook and google and yahoo! and so forth. we want to continue to be the
4:05 pm
lead. we've got to win the battle for talent and make sure we get the best engineers and best entrepreneurs coming here, working here, starting companies here or joining fast growing companies here. >> i looked at some of the numbers. they were pretty stunning. according to the census, 16.5% of people in this country over 25 were not born in this country. but yet about one-third, a little bit more, of the engineering degrees in this country go to people who weren't born here and just about one-third of other science, technology, math degrees also go to people who weren't born here. now obviously a lot of those people are going to go home. i believe as part of bill, would you explain how it works, there wouldn't be quotas anymore for people from china or india who get to stay here once they get their degrees? >> these senators the issue specifically are talking about immigration, the stem visa and an entrepreneur visa. on the stem side -- stands for science, technology, engineering and math. it is really getting people who are coming to this country to get ph.ds and masters degrees
4:06 pm
from some of our great university. often once they get those we kick them out of hour country to start companies there and compete with companies here. stem visa encourages those people to stay. we've given them this great education. why should we kick them out? the equivalent if we get people from china to go to our naval academy and then kick them out to go help the chinese naval academy. obviously immigration is sensitive. there are a lot of facets on it. but making sure the best and brightest entrepreneur and engineers are attracted to come here -- because they are job creators. technology companies typically are started by first and second generation immigrants. i'm grateful these four senators are coming together. it is a tough climate, but they are coming together to focus on entrepreneurs and make sure we remain the world's most entrepreneurial nation. >> i think we all want that.
4:07 pm
this is right in the center of the presidential election as well. i want to play quickly a xlergs the president started running today about mitt romney. get your reaction. here it is. >> bain capital boss, that was a whole different story. armed guards at the doors. did not look at anyone. did not speak to anybody. told us we were all fired. >> steve, you're ane know vater, an entrepreneur, you're also on the president's commission for jobs and competitiveness. what's your reaction to those sorts of ads? on balance, from your view. is private equity good? >> it is what the president calls the silly season of politics. i think we're in that zone. it is going to be a tough contested presidential race. i guess it should be. but i think the focus for us right now should not just be on politics but policy, making sure we get the policies right. that's why i'm focusing on the work of these senators to come together to try to put the entrepreneurs first.
4:08 pm
there is a time for politics and a time for policy. my focus is on policy particularly around entrepreneurship. >> steve case, thank you very much. we'll head "out front," an investigation into the dark side of horse racing. tonight the alarming allegations against the trainer of the triple crown hopeful -- i'll have another. an then, iran. new threats tonight from prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel about iran's nuclear program. and a major accomplishment in the recovery of the young woman battling a flesh eating bacteria. it's claim one of her legs, it's claimed her hands. but there was a break-through tonight. ♪ i can do anything today ♪ i can go anywhere ♪ i can go anywhere today ♪ la la la la la la la [ male announcer ] dow solutions help millions of people by helping to make gluten free bread that doesn't taste gluten free. together, the elements of science and the human element can solve anything. solutionism. the new optimism.
4:09 pm
or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just good for business, it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $6.4 billion in new credit to small businesses across the country last year. because the more we help them, the more we help make opportunity possible. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our customers. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪
4:10 pm
where they grow america's favorite at you do... wpotatoes. idaho,r. everyone knows idaho potatoes taste great. but did you know they're good for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry the heart checkmark from the american heart association for foods low in saturated fat and cholesterol. so they're good for my family, and for yours. heart smart idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal. [ woman on r♪ bum-bum,stinct ] bum-bum, bum-bum ♪ ♪ bum-bum - ♪ ai, ai, ai - ♪ bum-bum - ♪ bum-bum, bum-bum - ♪ [ ice rattles rhythmically ] ♪ bum-bum, bum-bum, bum-bum ♪ ♪ [ imitates guitar noise ] ♪ [ vocalizing up-tempo heavy metal song ] ♪ [ vocalizing continues ] ♪ [ all singing ] the redesigned, 8-passenger pilot. smarter thinking.
4:11 pm
from honda. tonight a record. missouri based movie chain amc is now a chinese company. private equity groups include -- oh, yes -- bain. the biggest ever chinese acquisition in america. buyer is china's wanda entertainment group. price tag -- $2.6 million. amc is big, 346 theaters, more than 5,000 movie screens. thanks to that, wanda is not just china's biggest movie operator but the world's. before you get sad and bemoan the chinese takeover of the
4:12 pm
world, you know, think of it this way -- china wants movie theaters because the world loves to go see american-made movies. which brings me to our number tonight. $1.2 billion. that's how much the "avengers" has made worldwide since its release on april 25th. i remember the old days when american movies got released in london weeks, maybe even a month after the united states. "evita" was the one i waited for months when i lived there and all my friends at home had seen it. but now movies go overseas where all the people are first. i'm betting now that amc's chinese beijing might get "avengers 2" before london or new york. our second story "out front" tonight, the man who's just one race away from winning the triple crown. is something that hasn't happened in 34 years. i have to say, by the way, every year it almost happens, i wait, i watch the belmont and i'm sadly disappointed. i'd love a triple crown winner but this horse is facing serious accusations. the owner is. of using performance enhancing substances on some of his other
4:13 pm
horses. trainer doug o'neill and his champion horse could be barred from the upcoming belmont due to charges of milkshaking. just explaining what this is, this is the term for any illegal blend of baking soda, sugar and electrolytes. it is usually poured down a horse's throat or fed through its nostrils before a race and it is said to make the horses faster. at least from what i could see, faster when they're running sort of over a mile. so that would be the derby and most certainly the belmont. which is obviously significantly longer. o'neill is no stranger to milkshaking charges. his horses have tested positive on four separate occasions. the most recent violation two years ago at del mar in california. ed lavendera has been covering the story for "out front." i've been reading about the milkshaking. if does seem to be shown to be effective on horses going faster on stretches like they race in the triple crown. does it really work? >> that's a good question, erin. i've been trying to figure that
4:14 pm
out throughout most of the day. looking back at some of the cases that were brought against -- violations that were brought against doug o'neill in california, this is a trainer who has roughly about a dozen violations across the country over the last 10, 12 years or so. in looking back at the case history of these california vial lagsz, in cases that were brought against him, a number of horses, one finished last in a race so it is not exactly clear just how consistent milkshaking and effective it is over the long haul. i figure if a horse finishes last, the milkshaking in that particular case didn't have much of an effect, if any at all. >> i know you spent time today speaking to the trainer's brother. what did he say about the aelss that we're hearing now about i'll have another? >> this is kind of a fascinating story. imagine this trainer who has been considered in the horse racing industry a good trainer. probably above average. but this is a kid whose father used to take him to the horse track. his father was a better.
4:15 pm
graduated from high school, went working in the horse racing industry was a groom. as a horse walker. then worked his way up. so he's at the pinnacle of this incredible moment in his career. and now kind of dogged by these questions. and his brother who's worked in tandem with him, and together found this horse i'll have never and bought him for $35,000, they're on this great pinnacle and yet they're kind of dodging these questions or being dogged by these questions and they say, look, we have he never milkshaked a horse in our lives. listen to them here. >> originally the thought was you had to milkshake a horse -- we had to actually google that to find out what that meant. nobody's ever been caught milkshakinge ing ing a horse as know. doug sure hasn't. we wouldn't know how to do it. it's never been done by us or anybody in the barn. >> erin, his brother says that doug o'neill's actually taking much of this very difficultly. it is weighing on him heavily as he gets closer to the belmont.
4:16 pm
>> thank you very much, ed lavendera, i hope it ends happily because it would be great to have a triple crown again. next, democrats slamming the president and his campaign for going after mitt romney's record at bain capital. you just heard steve case's view on that. cory booker seems to agree. president responds to the criticism tonight. and her actions led russia to temporarily block americans from even adopting russian children. but now there are new problems for the tennessee woman who sent her adopted son back to russia her adopted son back to russia on a plane by himself. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
4:17 pm
are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. i think we should see other people. in fact, i'm already seeing your best friend, justin. ♪ i would've appreciated a proactive update on the status of our relationship. who do you think i am, tim? quicken loans? at quicken loans, we provide you with proactive updates on the status of your home loan. and our innovative online tools ensure that you're always in the loop. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze.
4:18 pm
[ male announcer ] aggressive styling. a more fuel-efficient turbocharged engine. and a completely redesigned interior. ♪ the 2012 c-class with over 2,000 refinements. it's amazing...inside and out. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. through mercedes-benz to get people to try on these new depend silhouette briefs, and today we are rocking the red carpet. look it's lisa rinna! lisa hiii,i know you don't need one but will you try on these new depend silhouette briefs for charity and prove just how great the fit is even under a fantastic dress? are you serious? i am serious... sure why not! she's doing it! the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. hey lisa, who ya wearing? she's wearing the new depend silhouette. (growl) we invite you to get a free sample and try one on too.
4:19 pm
4:20 pm
our third story "out front" -- the president. he says attacks on mitt romney or his work at bain capital are fair game. >> mr. romney is responsible for the proposals he's putting forward for how he says he's going to fix the economy, and if the main basis for him suggesting he can do a better job is his track record as the head of a private equity firm, then both the up sides and down sides are worth examining. >> okay. but not all of the president's
4:21 pm
supporters seem to agree with how he has done that investigation so far in his advertising. here's new york mayor cory booker yesterday on "meet the press." >> this kind of stuff is nauseating to me on both sides. it's nauseating to the american public. enough is enough. stop attacking private equity. stop attacking jeremiah wright. this stuff has got to stop. >> he continued to say why is he going to pick on private equity? hours later though, there he is. >> let me be clear. mitt romney has made his business record a centerpiece of his campaign. ep's talked about himself as a job creator and therefore it is reasonable and in fact i encourage it for the obama campaign to examine that record and to discuss it. >> john avlon, jamaal simmons, cory spoke from his heart on "meet the press." i'm sure what he would say in the u youtube in a thoughtful
4:22 pm
and considerate manner this should be discussed. if you're watching, cory, maybe i got it wrong but that's my met. the point is it is rather nauseating. >> yeah. look, the reason there was all this outcry is because he took the risk of breaking from partisan talking points and you're not supposed to do that but that's what people do when they have the courage to sort of say what they really think. >> he went out to actually say why private equity contributes to -- >> guess what? there is a positive and minus. but the point is that the overwhelming tide of negative ads intentionally polarizing people are already being subjected to does discuss people, it is nauseate, it is what people hate about politics. for calling that out all of a sudden he gets slammed by some folks forric disloyal. it is also called telling the truth. >> john, people hate negative politics but they also really, really respond to it. negative politics is as old as politics in this country. first real campaign that we had with tom jefferson and john
4:23 pm
adams, i mean they were questioning each other's manhood. this goes back a long way. people don't like it but they respond to it zprp it goes back to cicero. >> look at the roman analogies. you hear be with you jamaal. i hear you. but here's what everybody says if they're a political consultant and they use it to sort of say, look, i hate being negative but it works and the founding fathers did it. it is a rationalization. it does work but it also degrades the entire process and disgusts people. >> president obama has said he is not attacking the private equity industry as a whole, saying profit maximization is totally okay with him but there is a policy issue here. we are trying to get to the policy question and the policy upshot is this -- president obama wants to dramatically raise capital gains and dividend taxes. that will make it more likely rather than less likely that companies will load up with debt. that is, will is a big debt bias
4:24 pm
built into the tax code. it's not just pe companies incurring a lot of debt. president obama's actually going to make that worse rather than better. >> that's interesting. >> let's talk about that, guys. >> that is relevant and important. and complicated. >> it is. but this ad is not about that policy. ad is about an attempt to characterize his -- >> president obama's attacking this phenomenon wihich a ton of companies did go bankrupt. that's a sad and terrible thing but here's the thing -- he's going to make it worse an romney's policy will make it better. >> jamaal, the day that one of these first ads came out the president was trying to get money from one of the biggest private equity guys in the business. rahm emanuel, private equity guy, that's how he had time to spend time in congress. these are all private equity guys. doesn't it seem a little
4:25 pm
insincere to put out ads saying it is bad when you have so many guys around you that clearly think it is good? >> no. the democrats are argue rg not that private equity itself is bad. private equity is maximizing profits and this has a beneficial use for the economy. the question is about if mitt romney is casting his entire campaign around this notion of his business experience being the primary qualification, then it is a good idea to look at both the ups and downs. the problem with being a financier as a qualification of being president, you can't sell off michigan if it is underperforming asset. you can't outsource the fda if you don't -- if you want to save money. there are things that you cannot do as president that you can do when you are in business and that is why it is important to compare the two. >> finally, before we go, john avlon, bill maher calls mormonism a cult. i'm going to defend him in that he believes all religions are a
4:26 pm
cult. >> bill maher is a political comedian but when you give a million dollars to a super pac it can be said he's acting as a surrogate. he's not a surrogate for the president and his campaign. that's a very loaded word. with mormonism, you've careful. this is a crucial week for iran, it could be the tipping point for military action. and a surprising sentence in the tyler clementi spy cam case. was it fair? [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories.
4:27 pm
a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates.
4:28 pm
uh, nope. just, uh, checking out my ad. nice. but, y'know, with every door direct mail from the postal service, you'll find the customers that matter most: the ones in your neighborhood. print it yourself or find a local partner. and postage is under 15 cents. i wish i would have known that cause i really don't think i chose the best location. it's not so bad... i mean you got a deal... right? [ bird cries ] go online to reach every home, every address, every time with every door direct mail.
4:29 pm
4:30 pm
welcome to the second half of "out front." we start with the stories we care about when we focus on our own reporting from the front lines. and tonight a congressional source has confirmed to cnn that three drug enforcement administration agents are under investigation for hiring prostitutes and -- wow -- strange, coincidence, in colombia. information came trt secret service which is of course investigating itself as to why several of its agents hired prostitutes during a presidential trip. incident with the dea agents
4:31 pm
occurred at the same time as the ones involving the secret service but it was a totally separate incident. they weren't together. agents have been removed from the country. we fant want to give you th latest on the 24-year-old grad student who's been fighting flesh easting bacteria. i told you there was a break-through late today and it's good news. after both of her hands and her remaining foot amputated she's breathing on her own and this is a big break-through. her father put on his post amy's back to cracking jokes an speaking. in a separate but unrelated case, a man named bobby vaughn who was in the same hospital as amy has undergone five surgeries to remove tissue infected by the bacteria. a new mother in greenville, south carolina remains in critical condition after having seven surgeries after being diagnosed just hours after going home after the birth of her twins. the twins though are healthy. french investigators are widened their investigation into dominique strauss-khan's alleged participation in a prons tugs
4:32 pm
ring. they have upped the terms today rather significantly. they say there is suspicion that he participated in a gang rape at a hotel in washington. in a statement to cnn, strauss-khan's attorneys say the investigation will establish that dominique strauss-khan has never committed acts of violence or had any relationship whatsoever without the consent of his partners. plural. strauss-khan has also been warned by french authorities that he is under investigation for aggravated pimping, though there have been several allegations made against him, he has not been convicted of any crime. chrysler is recalling about 68,000 jeep wranglers due to a potential fire risk. this crossed just a moment ago. recall affects 2010 wranglers with automatic transmissions built before july 2010. the recall involves about 86,000 vehicles. we looked at the national highway safety administration documents and they said debris can get stuck between a plate which protects the transmission
4:33 pm
and catalytic converter that can cause a fire. it's been 291 days since the u.s. lost its credit rating. all three indices today were up more than 1%. now our fourth story. benjamin netanyahu of israel today told iran that time is running out for the country to stop its alleged nuclear weapons program. >> translator: giving these evil attention, the leading powers in the world must show force and clarity and not weakness. they shouldn't make concessions to iran. >> he picked today because inspectors from the international atomic energy agency met with iranian officials in tehran this afternoon. u.s. and other western governments are meeting with iranian negotiators in baghdad this week and this is a crucial week. if there's no deal it could be the tipping point for military action. "out front" tonight, a member of secretary of state clinton's
4:34 pm
international security advisory board, and the council on foreign relations, and also, the author of the eye toe ya's democracy. >> we haven't had sustained negotiations with iran for over two years, so the key here is whether this week's discussion can lead to a process where we move from high-level occasional meetings to an actual operationalization of a compromise plan. will iran give the west what it wants, which is a slowdown in its program. will the west give iran what it wants which is a slowdown in the sanctions. this week will tell. >> i want to ask about the sanctions in a moment. one of the biggest problems is access to one of iran's most secret site. in the recent weeks governments hostile to iran released pictures of devices where they say nuclear tests have been conducted in the past. do you think iran will give full
4:35 pm
unfettered access to the site. >> not nuclear explosions tested but it is possible they were constructing a site to test components of a nuclear device. it is a military site. iae inspectors are there today. they want access to the site. the director general was optimistic about the pobt of getting a deal. we'll know in about 24 hours. is part of what iran has to do to begin to restore some confidence their program is indeed for peaceful uses as they claim toond extend the warninge should they break out of the iae inspection process. >> the question is, if there's nothing to hide, which iran says will is nothing to hide, why not just give full access and shut everybody up about the satellite pictures or the site, what's there and what isn't there? >> i think iran wants to be treated like every other country in the world with certain amount of respect. that's what they say anyway. if they give -- immediately give
4:36 pm
access to whatever inspectors want, even though it is not on the list of things stle to give access to -- because it is not a declared nuclear site so therefore they don't have to give access to it. then they feel like they're being treated differently, as second class citizens in the world. u.s. doesn't give access to its military sites. other countries don't give access to military sites to international inspectors. iran says we have already give them access. they did in 2005, but that's a long time ago. i do think actually they will be allowed to have access to that site but i think iran wants to also see some development in this process that joe was talking about which is like this process of negotiations that's going to lead to something and that's why they -- i think they're holding off on giving that access right away. >> so they have it as a chip. >> i think so, yes. >> prime minister netanyahu said to me in an interview a few weeks ago he will accept zero enrichment from iran. the united states' position seems to be that senator
4:37 pm
feinstein was talking, there's nothing israel will accept and iran has said categorically they'll never go to zero. at one point does one side cave here? by that i am talking about israel and iran. >> i think if we believe all leaked stories about what the u.s. would be willing to accept, then it is true that they would be willing to accept some form of enrichment. even hillary clinton has said that and i believe that to be the case. it is a little odd that a count country that has nuclear weapons is dictating to other countries. i think that's a little strange. i think they're trying to put pressure on the u.s. more than on iran to try to get the u.s. to back them and also not make a deal that the israelis would be uncomfortable with at this point because it does appear there is some space between israel an iran on what they feel is
4:38 pm
acceptable for iran to have. >> joe, final question. iran has said they really wan these sanctions rolled back. the toughest sanctions have not yet taken effect. it seems from people i've talked to in washington there is no appetite in the u.s. to roll those back. is that your interpretation or would the u.s. consider softening those sanctions this summer which obviously could result in israel making a choice but that the u.s. doesn't want them to make? sflur's right, erin. the u.s. senate just passed another sanction bill today increasing the proposed sanctions so you're iran and you want relief from what is becoming a crushing sanction regime that's really killing the iranian economy and the price of oil has dropped so they're not getting as many revenues, you want something from the west, from the partners there, what can they give? they can give a delay in future sanctions. you might be able to see the european union to lay the old embargo which has not yet gone into effect.
4:39 pm
you could see the president relax some sections for humanitarian reasons on some banks. that's what iran will be looking for, that's the most politically sensitive part of these negotiations. >> i don't even know what that would do in tel aviv. okay, thanks to both of you. okay. now something almost no one expected. today daryn harun ravi was venty the judge for bullying his gay roommate. he could have don't ten years. he got 30 days. his roommate tyler clementi committed suicide by jumping off the george washington bridge after discovering ravi secretly spied on him with a webcam while he was with another man. in court today both clementi and ravi's mothered made emotional pleas to the judge there. >> tyler and i had been very connected. so much so that i feel like a piece of me died in september of 2010. that connection became very real to me again during the trial as most of the time i was listening an watching as if through
4:40 pm
tyler's ears, eyes and mind. >> but my son is sitting here physically alive in front of everyone's eyes. i make sure that he knows i love him. >> that was hair raising from both of the mothers. obviously very influential on the judge as well. were you shock? he could have gotten ten years. i know that a lot of people felt that was too much for someone who made a horrific mistake. but 30 days? >> it was an unbelievably emotional scene in that courtroom and yes, i was shocked by the sentence. i'll tell you why. first, the judge started out talking tough. he said i never saw an apology from ravi to one of the victims in the case, m.b. who was the boyfriend, acknowledged boyfriend of tyler clementi. he said ravi didn't even bother
4:41 pm
to stand up at his sentencing. he said that this was a crime that had inflicted this horrible penalty on the clementi family. so everybody was holding their breath waiting for a serious sentence, and 30 days came down along with probation and a fine. now you have to understand under new jersey crime, this crime, a second degree crime, five to ten years normally. it's robbery, kidnapping, sexual assault. those are the kinds of crimes that this attaches to. this was a shoplifting sentence. a disorderly conduct sentence in -- for a crime that is punishable by a much greater sentence. >> we just heard from the mothers. do you think that their statements had an impact or the judge already made the decision. >> i don't know. i think it had to have had an impact. this courtroom was awash in tears of these mothers. i mean both of them. it was tyler clementi's mother
4:42 pm
and the father an brother. they all spoke. then ravi's mother spoke and they were all in tears. i mean there was so much emotion, the judge had to be moved by it. i think ultimately he looked at the case and said, this is the first time this law has been applied to a college student. i can throw the book at him or will i give him a break? and as a warning to other students not to do this. >> think about cruelty and bullying. it seemed like he had. his father did also speak at court today. here is a little piece of that. >> my family and i understand that there are many people worldwide watching this case. we also understand there are important broader issues of protection of privacy and protection of people against criminal acts that are associated with bias, that while not in this case will be affected by this case. >> obviously privacy's something you've talked about. this could be a huge precedent in that case.
4:43 pm
given that do you think there will be an appeal? prosecutors will appeal? sl it's interesting, usually prosecutors don't appeal cases. usually they can't. new jersey has this weird law that says if the sentence is idiosyncratic, the prosecution can appeal. meaning, bizarre, odd or freakish. and strange word for lawyers to apply. so if the appellate division in new jersey says this was a bizarre, freakish sentence, then they can order a new sentence and order a more harsh sentence. a lot of lawyers say they have almost never seen a case where a second degree felony got such a light sentence. so idiosyncratic is the word of the evening. >> so they'd have to see if that actually applied. >> that's right. and if it does, then the prosecution can appeal and they have a shot at a harsher sentence. >> any case in america that comes near the definition of privacy ends up being confusing. >> very. but this is the -- but this is
4:44 pm
the precedent setting case. it is a watershed case. it sends a message to everybody be careful if you're using one of those webcams to humiliate and cyber bully because you are going to prison. >> certainly incredibly moving from both of those mothers. "out front" next, she made international headlines when she sent the son she adopted on a one-way flight back to russia. but now the tennessee woman could be forced to hand over hundreds of thousands of dollars to him. has helped fund economic and environmental recovery. long-term, bp's made a five hundred million dollar commitment to support scientists studying the environment. and the gulf is open for business - the beaches are beautiful, the seafood is delicious. last year, many areas even reported record tourism seasons. the progress continues... but that doesn't mean our job is done. we're still committed to seeing this through. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers
4:45 pm
how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our customers. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ the key is to have a good strategy. the same goes for my retirement. with the plan my financial advisor and i put together, a quick check and i know my retirement is on course. [ male announcer ] with wells fargo advisor's envision plan, you always know where you stand. in fact, 93 percent of envision plan holders say they will retire on their own terms. get started on the plan you need today -- wells fargo advisors. together we'll go far. why you fell in love with her in the first place. and why you still feel the same. but your erectile dysfunction -- that could be a question of blood flow.
4:46 pm
cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use with these new depend real fit briefs,untry and today we are surprising pro football all stars. there's wes, clay and demarcus.what's up guys.
4:47 pm
now i know you don't need one, but would you try these on for charity and prove just how great the fit is? seriously? no way for charity? let's do it! yup... they're doin it. the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. let's go drive, use the legs... nice teamwork! they tried on the new depend real fit. get a free sample so you can too.
4:48 pm
we're back with tonight's outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. we start in yemen. a suicide bomber dressed in a uniform struck a military parade rehearsal today killing at least 100 soldiers. mohammed janjoom is following this story. >> reporter: al qaeda in the iranian peninsula, the group that most analysts consider the most dangerous wing of the al qaeda terrorist network, uses yemen as its hub. what's really, really concerning about today's attack isn't just the fact that the military was targeted but it is the fact that it took place in one of the most heavily fortified seconds not just of the capital of yemen but of also all of yemen. this is one of the most secured
4:49 pm
sites in the country. it's very close to the presidential palace in the capital and it is very close to the headquarters of the central security forces. a lot of people that i'm speaking with in yemen today say, hey, if this can happen there, it can happen anywhere in yemen. erin. now to mexico where authorities captured one of the main suspects in the kill of 49 people whose bodies were discovered dismembered gruesomely last week. ramirez daniel elezando known as "the madman" will be detained for 40 days as prosecutors build their case against them. the asked rafael romo what mexican authorities know about the suspect and the reason for the murders. >> reporter: erin, he was the leader of the drug cartel in that part of northern mexico near the border where the bodies were found. "the madman" was described as one of the suspect responsible for last week's killings, the massacre of 49 people whose bodied were beheaded and mutilated. officials say this was part after strategy to blame the
4:50 pm
actions on opposing criminal organizations to cause confusion among authorities and public opinion. he is an extremely dangerous individual, erin. officials say as mexican soldiers were closing in on him, the madman hurled the grenade and fired the troops with a rifle. >> all right. thanks very much to rafael. let's check in with anderson. what's coming up? >> coming up on "ac 360"? >> testing guidelines for prostate cancer. one of the deadliest forms of cancer among men. we're going to speak with an oncologist and author who needs screening. and hate-fill speech of a preacher who advocated for gays and lesbians to be in electrified pens. those stoirs, a lot of about politics tonight and the ridiculist tonight. >> thanks very much.
4:51 pm
now our fifth story. a hefty fine for a tennessee woman who adopted a boy from russia and sent him back on a one-way flight. he was just seven years old when he was adopted. after six months she put him on a plane alone to go back to russia with a letter that said she didn't want him anymore. she said she was unable to handle caring for him. this caused a shutdown of adoptions for americans. ordered to pay $150,000 in back support and fees plus $1,000 a month until the boy turns 18. that's going to quarter almost a quarter million dollars. he just turned ten. he's living with a family in russia. good to see you, sir. explain exactly how this happened. how did you choose the amount? >> this was a difficult case.
4:52 pm
there was no legal precedent for it. simply what remedies could be invoked on behalf of the minor child who was a u.s. citizen when he stepped on the soil in 2009 became a u.s. citizen with all the rights and privileges that apply. so this case, we had to find a legal theory that had validity to unvoek this child's legal remedie remedies. this was a two-year-long battle where she hired no fewer than three law firm who is threw every technical legal defense in our path that could be thrown. but the case went to trial last thursday. and the issue had to do with whether or not this mother had breached a placement contract where she agreed if this child were ever taken from her home for any reason she'd remain responsible for his support. so the case -- >> let me just ask a question about that. her side of the story at the
4:53 pm
time was i know that this looks awful what i did, but i met the child once. i brought him here and it turned out that he was severely disturbed and had all sorts of issues and i was unable to care for him. so how should she have handled this differently so it wouldn't have ended this way? >> there's a proper legal process for her to follow as every parent. a biological parent can't decide one day they're not going to parent their child. she could have surrendered this child and found another home for justin. and the records did not bear out the fact this child had any violent tendencies or propensities. the medical evidence is to the contrary. while he had been institutionalized, she was briefed and given information about his medical background. so we just do not see where that was a justification for a parent to surrender the child -- rather to return the child to his home
4:54 pm
of origin. in the manner that she did. >> well, he's with a large family. we showed a picture of him with his foster family where he's in russia now. by all the accounts that we've heard or seen, he seems to be doing well. it's a happy family. so why do this public push for child support? >> the public push for child support had to do with the fact but for this case, tori hanson would have escaped without any legal consequence for her actions. and for a mother to pin a note to a child and send him back. she hired a driver over the internet whom she knew nothing about. this gentleman picked him up at the airport, dropped him off at the ministry of education. and there was no action being taken by the local authorities here in tennessee or the criminal authorities to do anything about this. >> thank you very much.
4:55 pm
we appreciate it. a story that cap captivated a lot of people when we first heard about him going back to russia. i was in boston this morning. it's been a rather long day, but i got a sneak preview of something totally, totally amazing. a band. and we'll explain next. if you are one of the millions of men
4:56 pm
who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products differ. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or, signs in a woman which may include changes in body hair or a large increase in acne, possibly due to accidental exposure. men with breast cancer or who have or might have prostate cancer, and women who are, or may become pregnant or are breast feeding should not use androgel. serious side effects include worsening of an enlarged prostate,
4:57 pm
possible increased risk of prostate cancer, lower sperm count, swelling of ankles, feet, or body, enlarged or painful breasts, problems breathing during sleep, and blood clots in the legs. tell your doctor about your medical conditions and medications, especially insulin, corticosteroids, or medicines to decrease blood clotting. talk to your doctor today about androgel 1.62% so you can use less gel. log on now to androgeloffer.com and you could pay as little as ten dollars a month for androgel 1.62%. what are you waiting for? this is big news.
4:58 pm
4:59 pm
so today i was in boston and there was a big cable show going on there. in fact, it's the cable industry's biggest annual convention. it was jammed. i was amazed. it was standing room only. by the way, because those of you who watch the show know i love to talk about beautiful infrastructure, it was the most convention center i've seen. it's what the show kicked off with that i was so excited. it was one of those moments when technology takes your breath away. it was iband, a rock group from the atlanta area performing the u2 song where the streets have no name. but they have a different sort of instrument. ♪