education. this is not a joke. this is not a relic. now, my friend's daughter said she didn't want to go back to that school. she wanted to quit all together. that was powerful. the kids know it's wrong and are willing to stand up for it. what's at stake in the egyptian elections and across the arab world right now is freedom for religion, for women, for entrepreneurs. this election matters for all of us, and this textbook i certainly will never forget. thanks so much for watching. here's piers morgan tonight. tonight, fear and greed. who's got the real answer to fixing the economy? >> president obama has decided to attack success. >> if your real argument i knew how to make a lot of money for investors then you're missing what this job is about. >> i asked a man who knows how to succeed in business, jack walsh and why he said that greed is to blame for the facebook disaster.

her recipe to keeping american food great. >> welcome to the jungle. a legendary slash from his wild days and nights of guns n' roses to the hall of fame. slash tells all, no holds bars primetime exclusive. this is piers morgan tonight. good evening. our big story, the bane of politics, mitt romney blasting obama for stunts on private equity. >> it's no wonder so many of his own supporters are calling on him to stop the war on job creators. make no mistake, when i'm president, you won't wake up every day and wonder if the president is on your side. [ applause ]

>> no surprise, but there was an applause line. and he spoke out, telling "time" that his policies would bring unemployment down to 6% in four years. joining me now, a man who can tell me if that is achievable, facebook, jpmorgan and all of the raging stories in business and politics. jack walsh, how are you? i'm very excited you're here. i have heard from lots of people who are, let's say, less qualified, pontifficating on these issues. let's start with the bain capital issue. the clear dividing line, it was never going to be about gay marriage, this election. it was going to be about the economy, and now you have the dividing line. president obama says that mitt romney' record at bain was destructive. it cost jobs, it was profit earring. he said no, i created jobs.

i turned businesses around. i'm proud of it. i can do the same with america. you have a connection. let's establish that. your wife worked at bain. you're a romney supporter, you said that on this show. tell me about the argument over private equity. >> i worked in private equity for 12 years, also. let me say this, if i were romney, i would say bring it on, mr. president. i have three things i want to talk to you about regarding private equity. one is private equity companies don't buy jewels. they buy broken businesses or orphaned businesses that big companies don't want. what do they have to do? they have to deal with the balance sheet, which is often a mess, and they have to deal with the strategy of a broken business. that's number one. they have to go in and deal with those tough problems. what does america have a problem with right now, a strategy and a wla balance sheet. great experience. she's done it with hundreds of

companies. >> has he always done the right thing with the companies? >> maybe not. maybe 20% that they say haven't worked out. but you're taking broken companies. take the steel company they like to advertise. that steel company went have gone ten years without an investment to keep it going. this was a dead business. >> what about joe biden's claimant that just because you can run a company like bain doesn't make you any more fit that aplumber to run the country. it doesn't mean he doesn't like plum plumbers. >> let's go to challenge. when you take over a broken company, you have to put challenge in. what does the president have to do in office? put talent in. he won't have a secretary of energy like we have now. that doesn't have any idea about

business or how to drill and get things. all he wants to do is raise the price of gasoline. he'll put talent in these jobs. he'll staff better. >> what about this. i hear what you say. >> i want you to hear. >> i hear you loud and clear. here's part of the problem that many republicans have. many blame the policies that were conducted by republicans for the financial crisis that engulfed america and the world. how does mitt romney distance himself fraught whaum happened before. you can't blame obama for all that. >> he talks about his qualifications. i talk about strategy, talent, balance sheet. what does a company do, it globalizes them. he's been dealing with governments, with nuts and bolts of running companies globally. he ought to be talking about these characteristics that make him a great leader. we want a leader, we want a leader to take over the country.

>> what about the problems they have in terms of perception with the fact that many americans blame wall street for a lot of the greed and naked capitalism at its worst, which brought america to its knees? >> he doesn't have any association with that. that's ridiculous. he ought to talk about his qualifications, and private equity gives him incredible breadth of qualifications along with being governor of a state and other things. without question, the idea of being embarrassed because you're in private equity is the silliest argument in the world. >> be honest on this? >> when am i not honest? >> on this particular question i'm about to ask you, a proper answer. people who criticize mitt romney over the position he takes, when he uses bain as an example of job creation, they say that's a load of food. that's not why any private equity company buys a company. they don't buy it to create jobs. they buy it to turn it around

and make a profit. >> i agree with that. >> is he wrong to say it was about job creation? >> i think making the job creation argument was not the smartest case to make. creating jobs that last, durable jobs in a forward growth economy, that's what private equity does. i have been involved over ten years now, 12 years, we have not had a busted company. we take broken companies and take them forward and they're now flourishing. so you don't create scads of jobs, but you create good paying jobs in a continuing industry. >> do you think this will be the key battle ground, the idealogical dispute? >> if it is, romney should wipe it out. the qualifications, compare it to someone handing out leaflets as a community organizer, the global experience of doing all this, it's not even close. >> i come back to the problem

with mitt romney and perception, for whatever reason, the public look at him in america and see a very wealthy guy. they see him as a kind of corporate fat cat, for want of a better phrase, and that may or may not be fair to him, but that's how a lot of americans see. and when i look at this in totality. they'll say it's all very well, but he's a very rich guy who made himself very rich through this company. that's not what we want from the president. what we want is for him to help us get jobs. not for him to make himself even richer. >> that's what private equity does. it creates jobs in companies that would have gone under yorb you don't get a great jewel and invest in it. you get a broken company. you invest in it and make it alive. you take a dead carcass and put oxygen into it and keep it alive. is it a big job creator?

no, but does it keep jobs inyes. >> let's play something from an interview i did with howard schultz from starbucks. >> i don't believe you can build a sustainable enterprise with a singular goal just on profit. it's a shallow goal. i don't think you can endure. i don't think you can attract great, great people. and i think the best part of business right now is trying to create the balance between profitability and a social kaunlsance. >> i found that fascinating. he called it moral capitalism. he said we're bringing a factory, for example, he's opening in georgia. people say, there's no comparison between him and apple because he does coffee and they do -- what about the cups? he must produce more cups, i would imagine, than anybody in the world. the argument applies equally to a lot of american companies. when he talks about moral capitalism, what is your instinctive reaction to that? >> i like what he says.

guess what he starts with? he starts with starbucks, a highly successful, profitable company. you can't do the right thing, the moral thing, from a broken wagon. you can't do it. so the idea of not having successful, highly profitable companies who can give back, when i retired from ge, we had 50 tho 50,000 of our employees managing students in the inner cities, all of those things, we could do that. do you think general motors could have done that at that time? thoug not that they weren't just as good of people, they were broke. you want your company to be profitable so you can give back. you can't give back from an empty wagon. >> what about the concept which i personally love and some businessman freak out when i say it about companies like apple who outsource a lot of their work to places like china. deliberately bringing it back at a financial cost to them in the

short-term, but for the benefit of america as a company. >> you want apple to be a success as they can be. then apple can take those resources that it gets and give it out as it sees fit. it can pay taxes, it can donate to great charities. when i ran united ways for years, when i went around to busted companies and knocked on their door for money, the ceo would say i'm sorry i can't help you out this year, come back next year when i went to companies that were winning, that's why winning is good. >> facebook launched to huge hysteria and has taken huge fall since it opened. mark zuckerberg in a preranged deal made a billion dollars. there are issues with morgan stanley and about their role in all this. what is your opinion of the whole ipo launch of facebook this week? >> ugly. turned out that greed overtook rational behavior.

and they had it priced right, it looks like, and they had the right amount of stock being put out, looks like, where the stock has leveled out today. it looks like that was right. and what happened was at the last minute, they jumped in and went for too much stock at too high a price. and as a result of that, it's a black eye all over the place. >> is that just pure naked greed? >> one from a distance might think so. >> when leads me to the situation at jpmorgan. massive losses there. we know well in excess of $2 billion. we don't know quite how big. you talked about leadership. the leader of jpmorgan, jamie dimon is renowned as one of the best leaders in america. what has gone wrong there? how could a company make that kind of loss without apparently some of the top people having an idea? >> some people made a mistake. how did the gsa guys go to

hawaii and have a party? why didn't barack obama stop that right away? he dealt with it once he learned of it. >> has jamie dimon dealt with this? >> right up to now, absolutely right. now he has to shift the emphasis from taking care of the people out there and all of the people trying to capitalize on regulati regulations to the column this week in reuters. this challenge now is to galvanize the internal people. >> doesn't there have to be regulation? >> of course. >> he's always railed against it. >> not against all regulation. >> but vocal against the regulation that ironically would have stopped what happened. >> most people would say no. that argument is not -- >> if you're an average american watching this and saying how could a company lose over $2 billion, maybe $3 billion. >> of its own company. >> put down as a mistake, bad day at the office. >> of its own money. of its own money.

they're going to make several billion dollars this quarter. mistakes occur all over the world every day. >> does it help the american financial system? jpmorgan to take a huge hit like that. >> it would have been better if it never happens, ov. >> a smaller bank, they could have gone under with a hit like that. they were lucky the balance sheet was so heavy in profit. >> they're a strong company. >> but they still made this catastrophic mistake. >> catastrophic would mean it was over. they made a large mistake which they're handling. they handled it well until now. >> one way for confidence to be restored to the american -- >> to do everything perfectly. >> not to make such massive mistakes, an attempt to make a quick buck. >> we don't know that? >> do you suspect that? >> no. >> what do you suspect? >> i don't actually know enough to comment obthat, but i know they came clean right away.

they have been very forth right about it. and they are going to make mistakes. the challenge for jamie dimon is, you are knocked off the horse. how do you get back on again? >> is he the right guy to do that? >> absolutely. >> finally, what is the state of the american economy. should people be feeling more confident? >> pretty good. it's not great, nowhere where we need, we're going to grow in the 2 to 2 1/2% range, add over 150,000 plus or minus jobs. >> a lot better than it was say three years ago? >> a lot better. >> so obama has done a good job? >> done a good job bringing it back in the cycle. >> do you give him credit for that? >> i don't like what he has done. this is the weakest recovery we have had. >> what do you give him credit for in terms of the economy? >> that's a tough one for me.

that's a tough one. >> i tell you what, come back another time when you have thought of an answer. >> i will. >> jack, as always, great to have you. jack welsch the former ceo of ge. a man with an appetite for destruction. he was onstage last night and now my primetime interview with slash, talking music, mayhem, axl rose, and 12 hours of drunken marauding. you want to hang around for this? ♪

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rosen is now in the music hall of fame. he joins me for a primetime exclusive. welcome, slash. >> hi. >> people want to know this, but copenhagen, the early '90s, guns n' roses at the height of their powers, we conducted our first interview, and at the end, you said, would you like jack daniels, which i have never experienced before. 12 hours later we were in a piano bar, still drinking jack daniels, and you walked off into the sunset with my favorite jacket, which i never got back. it was a price worth paying. >> i would love to be able to find that jacket and give it back to you. >> it was everything i wanted in a jacket. you took it. you had about 1,000 jackets. it was -- i have said this many times on the show, it was the single greatest rock performance i have ever seen. by anybody. it was just incredible.

secondly, it was one of the most outrageous spectacles the whole 24 hours i have been party to. fighting at press conferences, drunken rampaging. it was everything i imagined and hoped rock 'n' roll could be about. thirdly, the interview, when i then played it back was one of the most lucid, smart, intelligent interviews i had done with someone for long time, and it wasn't supposed to be that way. >> probably not. all things considered, as much partying and stuff that went on in those days, i tried to be somewhat intelligent when it came to having a discussion with somebody or an interview. i had my moment, but there were times -- >> talking about out to lunch, i interviewed gregg allman. he had a lot of problems with drugs. when i reinterviewed you recently for gq, you had come

through the whole process, the whole rock 'n' roll destructive process, and you come out the other end, apparently with no damage. do you feel lucky? >> i was very fortunate, because the kind of addiction that i had was something that was a long-term kind of thing. and getting outf that is really a struggle for a lot of people, and some people don't make it out of that, so i was very fortunate i could finally get it together and prioritize and come out the other end in one piece, so to speak. >> we're going to discuss the new album, the new slash album, but i can't not discuss guns n' roses. you sort of hate all this, because although it was fantastic and you sold millions of records and it was so iconic, but the way it ended, you don't want to sit here banging on about axl rose the rest of your life, do you? >> no. it's a lot of attention put on a

lot of negative stuff. and granted, the negative stuff existed and might still exist or whatever, but dwelling on that stuff, all things considered, i left the band in 1996, so we're talking, you know, a pretty long amount of time that i haven't really been focused on that. >> do you remember the last words? are they repeatable? >> no, no. it wasn't like that. i think the -- you know, basically, it was just that i'm done. i think that was it. >> who said that? >> i did. >> i'm done. >> yeah, and it wasn't really me necessarily leaving the band. it was not continuing on with the new band that he put together that he was now at the helm of which was the new guns n' roses and i was given a contract to basically join his new band. and it took about 24 hours before i decided, you know, i think this is the end of the

line. >> what is the single biggest offer you had to put it all behind you and get on the stage together? >> i have heard a lot of numbers thrown around. i have never been handed a specific offer. but you know, it's in the -- >> seven figures, 8 figures? >> i would say it starts off with seven figures. and then sometimes it starts to get, you know, even more granddiose thon that. >> is there any check that would tempt you? >> i don't think it's a matter of that. you have a situation where nobody involved wants to revisit. it's not just me. it's the whole band. and so i don't think there's a price tag that anybody is going to put in front of us that is going to make that work. >> i want to come back and i was talking to you about what has been the greatest moment for you on a stage. you once hinted that it was a night in argentina. with 250,000 people, thunderstorm, steam, november

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♪ back now with my friend, rock legend slash with his newest album, apocalyptic love. what was the moment for you? >> you were talking about a concert that was in, i think it was argentina in the '90s. i mentioned in an interview we did before, which was when it was pouring, really thick rain. and there was steam coming off the audience, and we were playing "november rain" and the timing was such as soon as we went into chords for november rain, the rain storm started. and just seeing the crowd sort of bouncing and the rhythm of the song. >> huge outdoor crowd, 250,000

people. >> that was a big one. >> for someone like me who is never going to come close to that, what is the physical experience? >> um, the physical experience is there's the energy of the band playing a very heartfelt song, and then you have that interaction with an audience that is reacting to that, and it's a huge amount of energy, and it's really -- it's the kind of moment that makes everything that you go through in your career worth while because that chemistry, that, you know, that feeling that is communicated between the audience and yourself is something that is overwhelming. >> there are people watching this who would be thinking slash and piers could be brother, and that's because you were born in the north of england. your correct name is sal hudson.

do you feel english? >> i feel very connected to my british roots. i have extended family, and my dad is british, and i go there all the time. when i'm there, i'm visiting with family. i feel very connected. i think it's something in the blood where having been born there, you feel, you know, permanently connected. you know? it's weird. >> talk about the new album. you had a very successful career since leaving guns n' roses. this is by common consent at the moment, probably your best work. what is it like making an album as slash when you can hook in anyone you like? anyone will play with you. >> that's not really -- i mean, that's a nice thing for you to say, but i mean, as a musician, i'm just out there trying to put together relationships, musical relationships that are really effective. and it's not as easy as calling up anybody and making it happen. i have built up a lot of really great relationships over the

years. i played with a lot of really great people. >> you played with everyone. >> not everyone. >> if you were creating a supergroup, all of the talent you have seen, played with, whatever, who would be in there? >> some of those people, okay, if you're talking about people who are living that i have played with before, iggy pop is great. a great artist to work with. maybe iggy pop, maybe lenny kravitz, that's a tough question. i would have to think about it. >> who would be your drummer? >> that's what i'm trying to figure out. probably questlove from the roots. he's an amazing drummer. >> no one wants to do this, but who would play the other guit guitarist to you? >> it would be cool to jam with jack white. i have never jammed with him. i think he's amazing. >> i have a clip of lenny kravitz on my show. you look quite similar. >> yeah, we could be family. >> you could be brother.

you do. he has the same sort of nose rings and the same kind of stubble. and he's cool, too. >> he's a beautiful person. you know, what you see is what you get. he's honest. he's loving. >> wow. >> you two really could be brothers. you take the hair and the hat off and the shades, there you are. twins. >> that's very nice of you. >> what did you think of what he said 1234. >> that was really sweet. he's a really great guy. we got to be friends years ago. funny enough, we went to the same high school together, and i remember him from then because we were two of the -- i mean, the only two mixed kids i knew of in that school. and i was in what you call continuation, and he was in the regular school for kids who have potential to graduate. i was where the kids who smoke cigarettes and don't have much time left at that school. i remember him from then. then we hooked up when he had his "let love rule" album out,

which i thought was great. we got to be good friends and worked together and wrote a song together. he's a great guy. >> let's take another break. i want to talk to you about rock 'n' roll excess. i can't think of a finer expert to analyze all of the variest parts that it takes to be a rock 'n' roll legend, which you are. i want to know who, where, when, and why. >> all right. [ game announcer ] popped up towards the stands. hey joe. yeah? is this a bad time? no, i can talk. great. it's the 9th inning and your hair still looks amazing. well it starts with a healthy scalp. that's why i use head & shoulders for men. there are four shampoos for game-winning scalp protection and great looking hair... go on, please. with seven benefits in every bottle, head & shoulders for men washes out flakes, itch and dryness. and washes in... confidence. yeah, it does. [ crowd cheering ] [ male announcer ] head & shoulders for men.

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♪ back with my special guest, slash. you have basically -- you are a rock star. and i have discussed it with you before, for the benefit of this interview, you have been clean for six years now? >> almost seven. >> before that moment came and you were leading this crazy life, was it fun? so many people come out of it and go, oh, it was terrible. i wish i had never done it. >> no, i don't have any regrets about any of it. and it was a lot of fun. i think a lot of that whole sort

of lifestyle, that freedom of being able to do whatever you want to do and have a good time however you want to do is great, but it catches up to you at some point. you don't see it coming, but there's an invisible line you cross where it becomes the massive addiction thing. physical and emotional, and you become a slave to that. >> what was the thing that got you out of it, personally? >> being able to look at it from both sides, not being so out of it that i couldn't get some sort of a perspective on it. you know, it was like enduring the detox thing was something that i didn't want to have to deal with. but you know, towards the end of it, you know, sort of being very conscious of where i was standing with my music at that point, taking -- because i didn't have the sort of umbrella of guns n' roses at that point. sort of taking my -- the initiative to get my career

under control. >> at the height of your womanizing -- >> mm-hmm. >> an addiction unto itself. >> it used to end up with you hiring a number of hotel rooms in the same hotel for various women. none of whom knew about each other. >> that was fun, at the time, it was fun. >> excessive, wasn't it? >> a little excessive. >> oddly, you are now with the same woman you have been with for quite some time. >> she's a remarkably tenacious woman. >> do you feel like you met your match? >> definitely. when we first met, i knew i was -- i was hooked when we first met. i tried to keep my distance from her for a long time because i knew once that relationship was seriously established, things were going to change. >> how many times would you say in your life you have been properly in love? >> i would say properly, that was the first time.

>> are you a good dad? >> i really try. i think i'm a great dad, but i'm not a conventional dad, either. i'm sort of learning just as most new dads are, how to do the right thing, but i think that i'm a pretty responsible parent. i think i'm morally sound. i'm instilling the right things in my kids. >> what's the future, the unachieved ambition, the dream that's left? do you have one? >> i don't have like an unachieved dream. i think that i'm still sort of chasing the original dream, which was to make music and go out and make good records and do concerts and tour. i have done a lot of different things over the years, but you know, what i'm doing right now, it's definitely the most fun that i have had in a really long team. >> was it for you a great honor to be inducted into the hall of fame? >> yeah, of course, it was a great honor. it was -- it was something that

once i was there and we were accepting the acknowledgment, that i started to see things a little bit differently. going into it, it was, you know, i had a lot of mixed feelings about the whole thing. >> did you understand where axl was coming from with his protest about it all? >> i didn't even really read it. i knew what it was about. i didn't bother to really try and read into his feelings on the whole thing. i was just like, at that point, i was just confronted with a decision to make. are we going to go up and play anyway or not go or whatever? and we opted for going. and it was a good experience. >> slash, it's been a great experience for me. it's a great album. slash featuring miles kennedy and the conspireteres. apocalyptic love. a perfect title. good to see you again. >> good tauking to you. >> coming um, from a guitar god

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>> oh, muslim? >> muslim. >> oh. >> the name albiniak is associated with an ethnic group named the tartars and the group has been inhabited by the tartars for centuries and centuries. they were part of genghis khan's empire. >> my dog's name is genghis khan. >> bizarre scenes of martha stewart getting a closer look at the tv show "finding your own roots." her new cookbook centered on the roots of america, a celebration of our nation's most treasured dishes from coast to coast. her 77th book. >> yes. >> my god. that's unbelievable. you have written 77 books? >> well, i and some of my editors have worked on a lot of these books, too. but they're very, very good books. this is a wonderful book because not only has great recipes in it, piers, but it also has the back stories to lots of the recipes. >> it is a great book, actually.

but i can't get past genghis khan. >> i know. >> you're related to him? >> well, who knows? i mean, genghis -- you know, he covered a lot of territory. >> you coincidentally have a dog called genghis khan. >> well, i have always liked the idea of genghis khan, and he is a chinese chow chow, so he's a dog that he may have had back then, a little convoluted. but the chow chows are named after chinese emperors. >> this whole premise of the book martha -- >> i am 100% -- >> chinese martha. >> i am 100% american. i was born in america. >> are any americans 100% american? is want that the point, that none of you are? >> we are all american who are born here. once you move here and you get your citizenship, you're american. >> it's an amazing place. but i never understood why so

few americans travel out of america. when you're actually here and you travel around, you see it's so different. one of the great things about the book is that you go to all parts of america. and you find all the local recipes. >> right. >> most relevant to the area that you go to. >> right. well, i think because we're the melting pot. i mean, we are more melting pot i think than most countries. europe gets very melting also, but america has so many different nationalities living here. so many people imposing their traditions and their family -- family ways on the american culture. and then, they had such great indigenous ingredients to start with. because look what we had here. the bounty. we had corn. we had tomatoes. we had potatoes, blueberries, cranberries, all ingredients. squash. all indigenous to the americas. >> i mean, if i pinned you down and said, right, you have an hour to live, i don't want to be the bearer of bad news, this is a metaphorical scenario.

if i did, what's the meal you would have? what's the last thing you'd want to eat? >> well, if i were thinking about food, at that point -- >> it would be unlikely. >> i was very hungry and i only had an hour. >> yes. >> i probably wouldn't be thinking of eating, but -- >> what would you start with? >> good, fresh eggs. delicious salad from the garden. >> boiled eggs? >> boiled, scrambled. just -- a good farm butter. >> the main course what would you have? >> that's my main course. >> your main course? you can't have that as your main course. >> oh, yes. >> you know what i'd have in your book? pike place fish and chips. what turns out to be my favorite american fish place. >> again, where do you think that came from, fish and chips? >> britain. >> yeah. >> it's national dish. >> yeah. >> but you don't have mushy peas here. >> no, but a good recipe. >> a pint of beer. >> yes. >> where are the mushy peas? >> they're somewhere in the book.

>> do you like mushy peys? >> yeah. right out of the can, right? >> no. you make them with a pea puree. mush them up. >> i know. but i think -- >> like gravy. >> i think they were famous because there were canned. >> a terrible indictment of my national dish. >> i like canned peas. one of the few cans i might open. >> you seriously would have eggs as your last meal? >> sure. sure. a really good glass of white wine. >> yes. >> or maybe a couple of bottles if i knew i was going -- >> you wouldn't have american wine? >> depends. there are some good white wines. >> do you like burgundy? >> i love burgundy. >> i'll let you off the eggs. of all these dishes in here, which are the ones you were most excited about, would you say? >> the pies. >> why pies? >> i think pies are so typically american. the great apple pie. the great cherry pie. the lemon meringue pie. the shaker lemon pie. all those pies are so utterly delicious.

of course, the cobblers. cobblers. the cobblers, the crisps, the pandouties. they're all the same thing. >> cobblers mean something different where i come from. >> shoes? >> they can be, or they can be a derogatory term. which i have been called a few times. >> well, a cobbler is a crustless pie, fruit baked in a shallow dish with a top of something, either a biscuit or a crumble or something like that. a crumble, a crisp, they're all the same kind of thing, and they're all fun to eat. >> i never ate a cobbler pie. >> i'll make you one some time. i'll send it over to you. apple, cherry, plum, what do you like? >> i love lemon meringue. >> that's not a cobbler. that's a pie. that's a pie or a tart. i'll make you one of those. >> you still enjoy cooking? >> oh, yeah. >> what's the most exciting new gadget you've got your hands on recently? in the cooking world.

>> martha wrap. >> what's that? >> something i sort of created. >> no. >> i'm going to plug it. can i plug it? >> tell me what it is. >> okay. well, it is -- i have always, always felt that we should not be cooking in aluminum foil. so i always line my foil with parchment paper which is kind of a paper that things don't stick to and you don't get the aluminum on to your food. so i finally found a way to fuse the parchment to the aluminum so now, to the foil, so now you have crimpable parchment. you can enclose it, and it's called martha wrap. >> i'm told this weekend is the weekend that every american gets their barbie out and starts grilling. >> oh, yes. >> are you a big griller? >> i'm a careful griller. >> what's the secret to a good barbecue? >> well, a lot of secrets.

>> for a neanderthal cook like me. a bit of advice. >> hot, hot fire. no flames. you don't want to char your food. no blackened food. you know, you know what i mean. >> i like blackened food. >> real black, burned? >> not completely black coated, but a dash of black. >> maybe you're a lost cause. >> well, i'm depressing. >> do you press your hamburgers on the grill? >> yes. >> you do, you compact them? >> yes. compact, blackened. it may go back to the day when brits were neanderthals. >> well, you are a neanderthal. that's what you said. >> martha's american foods, a celebration of the nation's most treasured dishes from coast to coast. >> the neanderthals, they didn't have fire. >> you called me all sorts of things. been a tissue of insults flying my way. >> it's been a lot of fun. >> good fun. martha, loverly to see you.

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