tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN June 1, 2012 10:00pm-11:00pm PDT
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use. see a shrink today. okay. i want to thank piers for giving me the chance to sit in tonight. you can see me on "real time with bill maher." "ac 360" starts right now. we begin with the trayvon martin case in a sharp blow to george zimmerman's freedom h. eis going back to jail. >> at this time, revoke his bond and place him no bond status. i find good cause exists. order him to surrender himself within 48 hours to the sheriff of seminole county. >> he has yet to turn himself in. the judge ruled the way he did after hearing arguments that zimmerman's wife shelly lied at the bond hearing in april about their ability to make bail.
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here she is testifying by phone, first being sworn in and then not telling the truth. >> do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? >> yes, i do. >> do you have any financial means where you can assist in those costs? >> not that i'm aware of. >> well, because the judge believed the zimmermans to be strapped for cash, he was granted a low bail, $150,000 of which he only had to pay $15,000 out of pocket. what mrs. zimmerman did not say is that the couple had more than $150,000 in donations in a paypal account. >> and the defendant through ms. zimmerman lied to this court. about the amount of money they had. now, i would argue to the court that that is an egregious violation in terms of the representations that were made to this court. it was misleading. and i don't know what other words to use other than it was a blatant lie. >> in addition, the court has transcripts of a call, a telephone call that george
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zimmerman and his wife allegedly -- where they were talking in code about money, talking in hundreds when in fact they had -- were actually talking about tens of thousands of dollars. quote, in my quote do i have at least $100 george asked? no, it's more like $155. what they were talking about is $100,000 and $155,000. there's also the question of zimmerman's passport. he handed an expiring one over to the court. and kept a second, more recent one. none of it sat well with judge lester. he had this to say to the defense attorney, mark o'mara. the judge asking does your client get to sit there like a potted palm and let you lead me down the primrose path? moments ago i spoke with mr. o'mara and benjamin crump. have you spoken to george zimmerman since today's hearing? >> yes, i have. >> what was his response? >> you know, frustrated because
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he's -- he now has to come out of the hiding he's in. he understands the court's ruling. i have had a good conversation with him about i. -- it. we're going to have a conversation with the judge to explain it away and hopefully that will be worthwhile and get back out on bond. >> does he admit that he tried to mislead the court or does he say he tried to mislead the court? >> well, there's no question that they knew about the money. actually, in a previous correspondence to the judge we had acknowledged that. the question of whether or not they presented it properly i think it was somewhat misleading to the court. i have gone over that with george. i think he needs to realize we're still talking about a 28-year-old who, you know, is being charged with a crime he does not believe he committed and his whole life has been turned upside down. so i think it needs to be kept in context. >> the prosecutor though is saying that he and his wife had phone conversations that they knew were likely being recorded because he was in prison at the time.
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and that she was actually at the bank where the paypal account was and that they were talking in code. which it seems -- is relatively sophisticated if that's true. >> well, the code that they were using to the extent that they were using a code, if you read the transcripts if they were talking about $180,000, they were talking about $18, or $90 was $9. so i don't think that it was a particularly sophisticated code that they were using. and again, as i have said before, if in fact they were trying to deceive the judge with some intent to hide away the money, i don't believe that they would have turned it over five days late when the first conversation about it actually occurred. >> ben, how important a ruling do you think this is? >> well, i certainly think this is the most important ruling thus far. >> the most important, how so? >> the most important thus far because it makes us focus on the
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credibility of george zimmerman which is the central issue in this case. because everybody looks at the evidence, the only evidence that trayvon -- that george zimmerman issued is his version. and the other evidence, the 911 call, the situation where he says he did not get out of his car, he's pursuing trayvon, he confronts trayvon. those are george zimmerman's words, that trayvon attacked him. i think it's very important, the ruling that the judge gave out today based on the law. >> mark, does this hurt his credibility? i mean, if he was misleading in court and i mean, you down played this code. but it does show -- i mean, if it was an intentional desire to mislead somebody listening in on the phone, that's another example of being misleading. >> everybody's credibility who is going to ab witness in this case and even posthumously, trayvon martin's credibility is
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going to be an issue when we get in front of the jury and the fact that george zimmerman may have allowed a misrepresentation to occur can affect his credibility. i don't think it will get before the jury, but need to keep in mind what is really important in this case is the forensic evidence. the entirety of the evidence, which will include the eyewitness statements, the forensic evidence of the injuries, the forensic evidence regarding the gunshot. all of that is taken into context and one part of that, one facet is the credibility of all the people involved certainly should george decide to testify his credibility as well. >> mark, about the second passport, you say that zimmerman did what he needed to the and the responsibility of the court not knowing about it is your fault. how so? >> on the 26th, when i first talked to george and coincidentally i was talking to him about the money and the check. he told me about a second passport that they had found
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when they left the state. they gathered up all their belonging, left the state and uncovered a second passport. he told me about that. he forwarded it to me in a fedex package the second passport, and the check at one time. as it turns out, we have good documentation that it came to me on the 26th. on the 27th, i did a notice of filing to get that to the court. we were at court and literally it was left in my pleading file until this morning when bernie, the prosecutor, first said to me we found out about this second passport. i said, hold on, i have it. and i have had it since the 27th or 26th of april. my apologies but it's always been here. >> how did trayvon martin's family react to the news today? >> well, they were certainly relieved that zimmerman's bond would be revoked. and i just have to say this, anderson, with respect to mr. o'mara, there is going to be
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testimony that he -- that mr. -- the special prosecutor of the state, lied -- as the court said. that's relevant. nobody is going to say that trayvon martin lied in the court. nobody is going to say he gave out a material falsehood. i think that's important to this case. >> mark o'mara and benjamin crump, thank you both very much. >> thank you, anderson. let's dig deeper on this dramatic day in court. mark geragos and sunny hostin. as a criminal defense attorney, mark, i'm curious to get your take on what happened. has zimmerman done real damage to his case? if you hear benjamin crump he said this is the most important ruling because it totally destroys zimmerman's credibility about the night of the shooting. >> i think -- i don't think that it totally damages his credibility. is it bad? yes. there's no sugarcoating of it. i think you might remember, anderson, we talked about this,
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the night you led off. i think you reported first about the money that was in that account and i said at the time i know a lot of judges that would have remanded him into custody right there and then. so this judge gave him quite a bit of string to play out before remanding him into custody. and i would tend to agree with mr. crump, i think that it will -- if he takes the stand, this is something especially because it dealt with this judge in this courtroom, that's something this judge is going to let in. having said all of that, i don't think that it's going to be the death knell for the defense in this case. i think in at love way -- lot of ways that o'mara said, listen, i had the second passport and i brought it to the attention of the court and to mark's credit he hasn't laid it off to the prior lawyers but i think a lot can be laid off on the two clowns who were representing
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zimmerman before hand. they should have said, when you go into custody, remember something, they're taping everything you say. don't think you're going to outsmart the cops or the prosecutors by talking in code or anything else. it's the first thing you tell a client when they're in custody is don't talk to me, don't talk to anybody when you're on the phone about material facts or anything else that the prosecution is going to have unless you want that broadcast on cnn the next day. >> mark o'maris a good attorney and he's trying to do the best he can. because he was misled, clearly, by george zimmerman because he didn't know about this money, he wouldn't have gone into court making this argument had he known about this money. but he's now arguing, well, you know, it was ant very complicated code they were talking in. whether it was complicated or smart code north, it does seem like he and his wife were trying to mislead the court. >> it certainly seems like that. and the judge found that. you know, i have a copy of the
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motion in front of me. i think it's pretty clear that they not only knew that they were being taped, that they tried to be evasive about that. they were sort of trying to speak in code. and i have got to tell you, anderson. i do think that it's significant, the judge revoking his bond and saying that he had been dishonest and misled the court. should this case have a stand your ground hearing that's a hearing in front of the judge. so it will be the judge's determination as to whether or not george zimmerman is going to immunity from prosecution. and so i think that it is very significant that now this judge has been placed in a position that he believes that george zimmerman can be dishonest. if this case is about self-defense, the only version of events that leads one to believe self-defense is george zimmerman. so credibility is everything. >> exactly. >> if this gets to a jury trial, mark, this could be brought in? this would be brought in? >> well, i think sunny brings up
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a brilliant point. i apologize for having to agree with her. >> thank you, mark. >> but -- i know. it's friday. you know, i'm looking forward to the weekend, sunny. the problem here is is it became a lot more likely now that there will be a jury trial. sunny's right. i have been saying for a long time that i thought he stood a real chance, a significant chance, of getting this case thrown out at the stand your ground hearing. well, what judge is going to want to believe anything that somebody tells him when he's willing to equivocate and that's the euphemism here on the bond hearing? so i think it's a lot more likely that this thing goes to trial and it is likely that a judge lets this in to a trial because the judge is going to say, look, this guy has been in front of me with the same lawyer, the same prosecutor, in front of the same judge on the same fact pattern, and told me stuff that was not true or that i found not to be true. that's -- you know, it's not a good day for the defense. >> well, we'll leave on a happy
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now, that's progressive. call or click today. aarrggh! keeping them honest now on the campaign trail. may unemployment numbers came out. if you haven't heard it already, they're pretty grim. only 69,000 jobs created. the worst in a year. the jobless rate increasing to 8.2%. not good numbers for the country, the white house or the obama campaign. >> the economy's growing again, but it's not growing as fast as we want it to grow. our businesses have created almost 4.3 million new jobs over the last 27 months, but as we learned in today's jobs report, we're still not creating them as fast as we want. and just like at this time last year, our economy is still facing some serious head winds. >> president obama there talking
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about head winds today. mitt romney calling the numbers in his words devastating. >> this is very bad news for the american people, and the president is always quick to find some of the blame. first it was george bush, then it was congress, atm machines, europe. he's always got someone. but the truth is the job of the president is to get america back to work. >> you can argue about who is to blame. it is true the president's job is to get america back to work, one of the jobs of the president. the economy is likely the issue that will decide this election. there's a slim three-point obama lead. mitt romney has been saying something repeatedly that is not factually correct. here he is last night on cbs news. >> of course domestically it's hard to call, what, now, 39, 40 months of unemployment above 8% a success when even he said by now it would be in the 6% range. and by now it is not. it's over 8.
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>> mr. romney has made this something of a theme stating it in a number of different ways. watch. >> he said if we let him borrow $787 billion he'd keep it below 8%. the stimulus, by the way, borrowing $787 billion, the president said that would hold unemployment below 8%. he would keep unemployment below 8%. it has not been below 8% since. he borrowed $787 billion right off the bat for a stimulus. said if he was able to do that, he would hold unemployment below 8%. the so-called stimulus that didn't stimulate, that that would hold unemployment below 8%. >> you can decide for yourself how well or how poorly president obama has been handling the unemployment issue. mitt romney has been claiming barack obama has indicated that namely his policies namely the stimulus, would keep the unemployment rate below 8%.
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that's just not true. when house speaker john boehner made the same statement, they said they could find no one saying that the stimulus would keep the unemployment rate down below 8%. "the washington post" fact checker gave it three pinocchios. they said the romney website refutes their candidate's own claim. they attribute it not to president obama or then candidate obama, but to a projection, not a promise, written about the effects of a possible stimulus by two members of the transition team on january 9th before then mr. obama took office. the two staffers, jared bernstein and christina romer would go on to become top economic advisors in the new administration. back to that very real and troubling unemployment number, politics is all about the trend. after three straight months, the bad economic news, the trend is working against president obama and for governor romney, no doubt about it. joining us now republican strategist, mary madeline, jen
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saki. jen was deputy communications director in the obama white house. jen, the president may not have promised unemployment would be below 8% by now, but you probably thought it would be, didn't you? didn't everybody at the white house? >> look, there are predictions made early on where nobody knew how deep the hole was. since that time 4.3 million jobs have been created. that's strong record to stand on. i think most people in the white house today and people across the country were disappointed to see the numbers today. of course they wanted them to be better. that's why the president has called for more steps and for congress to move forward on more steps to help the economy continue moving forward. >> mary, the obama campaign is focusing on mitt romney's record of job creation as governor of massachusetts. unemployment did drop from 5 something to 4.7% under his term. as every democrat will tell you, particularly your husband mentioned on this show, they were 47th in job creation. is that enough to blunt the bad economic numbers we're seeing?
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>> anderson, you don't need to listen to everything james carville says, particularly when it comes to the economy. i think every american would appreciate, would revere having a 4.7% growth. we have had over 40 months of over 8% unemployment and you can talk about jobs created, but if the labor force participation was today as it was when obama took office, we'd have over 10%, some say as high as 50% unemployment. people are dropping out of the work force. they're going to be looking at this president's record. they'll take into account what he says about romney, but that also undermines a very big positive for this president. he was going to be transformational. he was going to be post partisan. now he's the most partisan. that hurts him with one of his dispositive voters, the independents. they don't like what he has to do to take out romney. >> jen, to mary's point, the
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obama campaign spent the first part of the week focusing on bain. now they're looking at his record of governor of massachusetts. did the bain strategy not work? >> no. they weren't attacking private equity. that's an industry where it's important industry in this country. there are supporters who work in private equity. what the campaign will say is that mitt romney is using his experience at bain as evidence that he's a job creator, yet that role he had there was to make money for investors, not to create jobs. nobody in the private equity industry thinks it was to create jobs. so that's not a fact about his record that means he's a better choice. >> mary, in our cnn poll today, the newest poll, voters split about -- pretty evenly about which candidate could actually manage the economy best. but if you look at the one area there was some real distance between the two. by almost 20 points voters think obama can understand their
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problems more likely than romney. is that a concern? >> it would be a concern that that question made any sense whatsoever. what this poll shows as is consistent with what previous polls and all the other polls if you go to real clear politics show, is that on the number one issue, the economy, two-thirds of the americans say that under obama's watch their personal circumstances either haven't improved or are worse and greater than two-thirds say they expect them to continue being worse into the future. we got a 70% wrong track. that's all on obama. they don't like. it's discordant for them to say, jen has been trying to say, she does a very good job, it was worse than we thought, we had all these head winds, we had this, it was japan. reagan didn't do that. george w. bush didn't do that. jack kennedy didn't do that. that undercuts his leadership. they ought to just do what --
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their only hope, really. they think their only hope is to try to destroy romney. their hope would be, although they would lose this way, this is our keynesian philosophy of government and we're going to put this up against a republican or conservative philosophy of government and let the chips fall where they may. you know who's siding with the republican, the conservative? it's not just bill clinton, it's governors, senators current and former. the president's own advisors. it's like he's the outlier in his own party at this point on economic philosophy. >> appreciate it. thanks. >> thank you, anderson. there's a lot of stuff happening tonight. one congressman is outright calling pakistan an enemy, not an ally of the u.s. for imposing a sanction on the pakistani doctor who helped to track down osama bin laden. he's calling for cutting off all aid. we'll hear from him next.
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enjoy sabra dips. adventure awaits. digging deeper now into the criminal case against the pakistani doctor who helped the united states or tried to help the united states track down and kill osama bin laden. his name is shakeel afridi. his lawyers filed an appeal on the sentence he was given last week in pakistan. officials initially told cnn and others that he was charged with treason for spying for the u.s. he was accused of setting up a phony vaccination program to help the u.s. try to figure out if bin laden was in fact hideling in that compound. he was arrested shortly after bin laden was killed. after he was sentenced court papers reported that he was convicted for ties to an islamic militant group in pakistan or i
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should say alleged ties, not for helping the cia. the militant group denies any link to him. they call the conviction a sham. congressman dana rohrabacher says there's no question he's being punished for assisting the u.s. >> congressman, you said the fact that pakistan has sentenced the dock for or the 33 years in prison, you said it's decisive evidence that pakistan sees itself at war with the u.s.? >> that's correct. pakistan would not be charging one of its citizens for treason for helping us bring to justice the man who murdered 3,000 of our citizens unless pakistan was on the side of the man who murdered 3,000 of our citizens, and that speaks for itself. >> this was a so-called tribal court which is a different
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system than the official national court in pakistan. it was a local tribal council that said he had this link to this terrorist group. do you read anything into that, that maybe that's a sign that there is some wiggle room for negotiation? >> no. i think we should quit looking for signs of some minuscule message being sent by somebody in the government of pakistan to us and take a look at what is right in front of our face, and that is that the pakistani government has been using the billions of dollars that they have received from us in aid to do us harm. let's quit trying to bend over backwards to give the benefit of the doubt to people who have proven time and again that they don't like us. they are our enemy and they're doing things to kill our people. >> so you believe the pakistani government knew that osama bin laden was in abadabad? >> i think anybody who has any
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real serious doubts that the pakistani government wasn't giving safe haven to osama bin laden all of these years, that that person is living in never never land. that government is acting like our enemy and we shouldn't give them any more money or any more support. >> the u.s. has given pakistan around $20 billion in economic aid since 9/11. you've been calling to cut off all of that aid. whether we are happy with the relationship with pakistan or not, don't we need that relationship? based on what's happening in afghanistan. pakistan right now is preventing us from resupplying troops in afghanistan through pakistan. don't we need some sort of leverage over pakistan? >> pakistan is the main instigator of the problems we're trying to solve in afghanistan. they've been arming the terrorist groups.
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they were the country that created the taliban. no, we should not be trying to find reasons of how we could work with pakistan. we should find out how we can cut off our relationship. with that hateful country, that country that shows how much -- how much they despise western civilization, especially the united states, and let's try to find a new strategic relationship perhaps with india that would give us the type of leverage in south asia to play a positive force. >> so you're not concerned about losing any kind of leverage over pakistan over their nuclear weapons, over what goes on, over support of the troops in afghanistan through pakistan? >> i don't think that we have any leverage on pakistan. i think they've been playing a game and a wicked and evil game at that that has cost american lives. >> and as for this doctor, do you think the u.s. should make some sort of deal to get him out? >> i think we should try our
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very best to free dr. afridi. he risked his life. he put himself in harm's way and we are abandoning him. we can't even get a resolution on the floor of congress. we can't get our president to lay down the law to pakistan that you're not going to treat this person who is a hero to the united states in such a manner. because if you do this to dr. afridi, you're doing it to the people of the united states. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you. well, we're getting new insight into how john edwards avoided a felony conviction. he left court a happy man after jurors deadlocked. they deliberated for more than 50 hours. we now know what went on in the jury room and why the jurors, we're going to talk to three jurors, all of whom say they think he's guilty of something. the prosecution didn't make its case. i'm going to ask them if they think john edwards was a good liar. hear what they have to say next. this man is about to be the millionth customer.
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360 follow the jurors in the john edwards trial are now free to talk. we saw them for the first time as they left the courthouse. we'll hear from three of them in a moment. they deliberated more than 50 hours, over nine days. they could only agree on one count. they cleared edwards on it. they deadlocked on the rest. the judge declared a mistrial on the five charges. the judge declared a mistrial. it was a big victory for john edwards who was facing a possible 30-year prison sentence. the former presidential candidate denied it but he wasn't humble. >> while i do not believe i did anything illegal or ever thought i was doing anything illegal, i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong and there is no one else responsible for my sins. i don't think god's through with me.
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i really believe he thinks there's still some good things i can do. >> any plans he has for his immediate future will hinge on whether the justice department decides to retry him on the five deadlocked counts. a lot of legal experts believe the government's case is weak and they won't bring it back to court. he was accused of violating campaign finance laws by using money from two wealthy donors to hide his affair with rielle hunter while he was running for president in 2008. the daughter they conceived is now four years old. the trial testimony was filled with intimate, embarrassing details. edwards was about as unsympathetic a defendant as they come. his defense team argued the money was a they argued the money was a gift, not a campaign contribution. he used the money to hide it from his dying wife. enough of the jurors bought the argument. joining me are three jurors. jury foreman, david rashan, ladonna foster and cindy acquaro. all three of you believe he was guilty on some of the charges. what did you think he was guilty of, do you know?
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>> as it related to him being guilty, the charges were very clearly defined by the prosecution and the instructions were defined by the judge. so we applied the rule of law based on the judge, judge eagles, and also the evidence that was able to support at least my opinion in some of the cases where there was guilt. >> so you think he did do something wrong but they just couldn't prove it? they didn't have the evidence to prove it, is that accurate? >> that would be my assessment. >> we actually wish that there had been more evidence and that we were able to follow the money to john edwards, but that wasn't the case. >> how significant was it that you didn't hear from rielle hunter, you didn't hear from bunny mellon, some of the other ones that passed away? >> that was one of the ones i wish we could have heard from, bunny mellon to see. i think we would have been able to follow the money more if we heard from bunny mellon.
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>> do you think though he was trying to use money -- campaign money to pay for rielle hunter? bottom line. >> i thought he was. we just -- it could not be proved. the evidence was not there to prove it, but i felt that's what he was doing. >> how weak was the prosecution's argument, their main witness was andrew young, and a lot of people watching his testimony sort of felt he was not all that credible of a witness. >> all throughout the process our responsibility was to, as we looked at the evidence, also assess the credibility of all the witnesses. so the government had a tough job to do with a witness that wasn't as credible that was needed to be in order to prove guilt. >> did you want to see john edwards on the stand as a juror? >> i personally did, but i don't think that it would have helped it. i don't know about y'all.
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>> somewhat, yeah. i would have liked to have heard his voice. those questions that i felt could have been asked and we would have gotten some good and honest answers, as honest as we would have gotten. >> there's an infamous interview he did with abc news, with bob woodruff. it was his confessional interview. he continued to lie about the paternity of the child. and we talked to our legal expert last night, jeff toobin, he said they would have played that interview and you would have seen him how he looked when he lied and it would have hurt his credibility. do you think seeing him lying on camera would have affected you guys. >> it did. >> it did? having seen that already? >> having seen that. we watched it in the courtroom and we actually watched it during deliberations. >> right. >> that was the first time that i had seen it so when i saw that interview, it definitely demonstrated that he had lied and said some things that were untrue. >> when i saw that interview i thought, wow, that's pretty effective. because he's sort of -- he said, that's from a tabloid.
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you've got to think about the source. he kind of made the interviewer feel bad for even asking the question. >> yes. i definitely did. i don't know about the others. >> yeah. i definitely thought that he was a good liar. >> at the time of the interview, yes. >> do you think he should be retried? you don't want to be serving on the jury again. >> i'd rather not do that again. what i would like -- i mean, i think justice has to prevail and in this case justice to me was he had a fair trial to be innocent before proven guilty. i think that part is really good. i do like, however -- i would like to see some change made so that future candidates understand that these activities aren't acceptable. >> changing -- you want to see changing campaign finance laws because under the current
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guidelines it's a difficult case to make? >> it is. >> a great point, yes. >> so you all kind of think that if there were some sort of change in campaign finance laws, then your job would have been easier to figure out, to follow the money? >> yes. >> i think so. >> based on the current definition, yes. >> well, you all did a remarkable job. it's not an easy thing. our entire system, as i'm sure the judge has said to you, depends on y'all doing your job. i think it's great you were able to separate preconceived notions about him from what the actual evidence shows. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> do you mind if i add one comment? >> sure. >> yeah. >> i just wanted to say it was really an honor. the jury, the 12 members and the four alternates, they were an amazing group. it was a tremendous honor to serve with them. it definitely highlights the value of our judicial system, but it also demonstrated some weaknesses as it relates to -- >> how tough was it in that deliberation room?
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how -- >> got really intense at times. >> did it really? >> oh, yeah. oh, yeah. >> screaming, yelling? >> yes. yes. >> really? wow. like a movie. >> your skin became very tough. >> is that -- really? >> uh-huh. >> but it was interesting though because i had a responsibility as foreman to help facilitate the discussion, and it seemed like that was the hardest facilitation job i had ever had. >> is that right? >> mediator now. >> is that right? >> we all took roles and responsibility in facilitating and i was really comfortable with the way that everybody interacted, but every time there was some high intensity and emotion, we all kind of had our own moments to step out and say, enough is enough. let's bring this back down to the facts. >> again, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> our pleasure. >> thank you. coming up, a week after the massacre in houla, and a day after the absurd report on what happened from syria, u.n. is launching an investigation into
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you had to know this was coming. >> i actually didn't. i actually didn't. i totally did not know. >> no the ridiculist tonight because it's your birthday. >> good lord. i didn't even think this was going to happen. i really had no idea this was going to happen. >> honestly, how do you not know that every year we're going to set out to get you? come on now. you see, the music's playing. you've got the confetti and you're already giggling. >> bob is just running around. all right. >> last year, as you know, mr. cooper, we gave you a dog and pony show literally. >> yes. yes, there was a dog and pony show. >> don't worry about the confetti. you look great. so i come bearing cake and look what else. >> oh, this was the dog and pony show. yes, i do remember this. >> you see the things we do for you. >> yes. yes. i appreciate that.
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thank you. >> it's not over yet. >> are we done? >> no. >> we have an extra special guest for you. let's see if you know who it is. >> really? >> waaahhhoooo. wild action! >> are you kidding me? turtle man? oh, my god. >> yeah, buddy, what's up? >> yes, indeed. >> turtle -- i can't believe, turtle man, you're here. and, geez, that's a big turtle. >> watch out, buddy. that's live action. >> that's live what? >> live action there. don't grab any. >> live what? >> live action end. >> live action end. i don't understand -- >> this thing will snap it off. >> it will snap your hand plum off, dude. >> i've followed you for years. >> that's why i came here tonight. >> this was in new york's park. i caught it out of the pond. i almost got in trouble, man. the cops got after me. i run in here. luckily we got these studio guys that was taking up --
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>> how did you get this through tsa security? >> they knew me. >> they saw turtle man coming. they were like, let him through. just let him through. >> let him through because they knew you was a big fan. they wanted me to see you. live action! anderson cooper just got him some. wahoo! >> wow. >> what do you think about it? >> i am stunned. i am stunned, yeah. the turtle is blocking my key light but that's okay. i'm not too worried about that. how did you start -- how did you become turtle man? how did you start -- how did you know that you had a skill to catch turtles? >> uncle phillip taught me when i was a little kid, seven years old, and i just taught myself some new techniques. >> have you ever been bitten? >> oh, yeah, i've been bit through the hand there. through the hand there. seven stitches. got bit through the pulse there. i nearly bled to death. had it cauterized. it wouldn't quit bleeding. >> you had to cauterize your own wound.
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>> i went to the doctor. >> you went to the doctor. >> before we run out of time, i hate to break up the turtle romance, but we can't have a birthday without a cake. we brought you a turtle. we had the cake boss, the real cake boss -- pay attention, cooper. >> i'm listening. >> we had the actual cake boss put one together. >> wahooo. >> they whipped up a cake. let's bring it out. >> that is crazy. >> birthday cake, man. >> how are you? how's it going? >> the cake man. >> this one don't bite. >> that is crazy. wow. >> ain't that neat? >> let me go stand next -- let me quickly go stand next to this thing. see how it goes. >> let's see. >> see how this looks. there you go. there's turtle. look at that. wow. is this all really edible? >> yeah. >> wow. >> going to eat this here. >
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