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time, same place. "anderson cooper 306 starts now. we begin with allegations the white house is leaking state secrets, slied information for political gain. john mccain is leading the charge and has bipartisan support. mccain claims the white house orchestrated leaks to boost president obama's national security reputation. the reports include classified data on a kmurs virus attack on i ran and cia drone strikes. >> the release of the information in these articles harms our national security and puts in danger the lives of the men and women who are sworn to protect it. the only motive for such damaging and classified leaks of information is that it makes the president look good. >> we'll talk to senator mccain in a moment. the white house are flatly denying the charges.
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jay carney told reporters any suggestion that this administration has authorized intentional leaks of classified information for political gain is grossly irresponsible. all this outrage stems from a wave of news reports of secret operations overseas including an article about u.s. cyberattacks on the computers they ran uses to run the nuclear facilities. the scoop is based on interviews with current and former officials involved in the program. now some of the information came from current officials working on the program. listen to how he refers to the source. he was deep into every step in slowing the program, the diplomacy, the sanctions a senior administration official said. that wasn't the only one. in three other recent stories having to do with national
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security the source or sources cited were administration officials. one of the things that senator mccain is angry about is the white house is ignoring leaks that make the administration look good with taking a hard line with lower level whistle blowers. in the last four years under the obama administration, the justice department prosecuted six cases under the espionage act. that is twice of the number in the last three administrations combined. there are no calls for an investigation to find the source of the leaks. i spoke with senator mccain about the issue. >> the white house now says that any claim that these leaks are for political gain which you and others have said is gloeszly irresponsible to make that claim. >> who benefits? who benefitted from the leaks? that's what you look for. and the portrayal of the
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president as a strong and courageous leader is what is it all about. and the second aspect of course is that this administration has been blatantly political. and so, i think it's very clear that these leaks came from the white house people within the white house itself and these people are very politically oriented. >> do you believe that they are authorized by the president, by his inner circle? do you think this is a plan or individuals taking it upon themselves to leak information for whatever reason? >> i have no idea. but i don't think there's any doubt that this is one of the most egregious breaches of national security in recent memory. the director of national intelligence, general clapper said and he's been in it 30 or 40 years and he said it's the worst he has ever seen.
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this is serious. it seems to me if it's as egraejs and terrible breach as the director of national intelligence says why isn't the president calling for a special prosecutor own this? there should be a special investigator. >> do you think this is something the fbi can look at on their own? >> i do not. i think it requires a special counsel because in the view of the director of national intelligence and mine this is the most egregious breach in memory. >> you don't trust the justice department to police the white house? >> it's not a matter of trust as much as a matter of what will be required. the special counsel zoned his or her own team and have the investigative powers that are necessary. i think it rises to that level of concern. >> is it kind of perplexing
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because on the one hand the obama administration has gone after low-level leakers, whistle blowers who released information that doesn't portray the administration well and there have been a number of high level leaks do. you see a double standard here? >> i think you can draw that conclusion particularly when you have a private manning who was a private in the army who they are going after full-bore as they should for the wikileaks issue and a low-level cia employee and no real reaction from the administration. the president has been silent about this. he has about massacres in syria as well. it seems to me that every member of the administration, the vice president and the president should be saying, this is a terrible breach of the national security and we've got to take every step necessary to find those people who are guilty of it and make sure it doesn't happen again.
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>> so how does -- what is the next step? how does that actually happen? >> it would require the appointment by the president and may require authorization from congress. we're talking about a sense of the senate resolution calling for it. but you know, you can -- it's a matter of some mechanics but you can get it done. >> i want to ask you briefly. reports of a massacre in syria, 78 people killed, many of them women and children. a lot of people said after the massacre in houla, that was a turning point. do you think that was a turning point looking back on it now? or do you think it's -- no one is doing anything about it still? >> to be frank with you, i think you and i and others had hoped it would be a turning point. just yesterday the president's spokesperson mr. carney, said he
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didn't want to militarize the conflict. he didn't want to militarize the conflict with the massacres going and an the president says nothing. the president of the united states says nothing. it's just shameful. i can't tell you how disappointed i am. you and i have been over there. i wish more people could have the same experiences we've had. the rape and torture and murder go on. and it doesn't seem to matter to this administration. >> senator mccain i appreciate your time. does the u.s. have a responsibility to do something about the fighting there? 33% of americans say yesterday up from 25% in february and 61% say no. let us know what you are think. follow me on twitter right now. former president bill clinton is
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clinton gaclinton gave republi in an interview with cnbc. then he said this about the bush tax cuts. >> does that mean extending the tax cuts? >> i think what it means is they will have to extend -- they will probably have to put everything off until early next year. that's the best thing to do right now. but the republicans don't want to do that unless he agrees to extend the tax cuts permanently including for upper income people and i think he will do that. the spending low is still pretty low. but i think they look high because there's a recession. >> the bush tax cuts expire january 1st. the white house said it would not extend them even
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temporarily. he is at odd with president obama's position. >> i'm very sorry about what happened yesterday. what i thought something had to be done on the fiscal cliff before the election. apparently nothing has to be done until the first of the year. he should stick with his position and negotiate with the republicans. >> the timing is awkward for the obama campaign and comes on the heels of him praising mitt romney's career. want to talk about it with airy fleisher and democratic strategist cornell belcher. there are conspiracy theorists saying that this is a way for clinton to get back at president obama? do you think this is deliberate
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or just things that come out in conversation? >> i think the president -- president clinton cleared up what he was saying in the situation room and doubled down on the fact that the wealthy are going to have to contribute to long term bringing down the debt. i know the press loves president clinton and polling has him at 66% which is incredible for any politician these days. i think the democrats are all in on that. less talk about what clinton did. he raised taxes on the wealthy and built the economy from the middle out. all boats raised. the same policies that president obama is trying to put in place right now. we are all in on republicans looking back at president clinton. because that is a conversation we want to have. >> cornell mentioned the poll. he is right.
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two thirds of the country like former president bill clinton more than any other ex-president in the poll. is having him on the stump a good thing? >> i think it is good for president obama. but you know, anderson, all these issues are the notable and enjoyable side shows. i think he said it and meant it but realized he can't mean it and pulled it back. there is not a chance he knows that the tax cuts will expire before the election. points for creative fiction and crawling back. but these things are notable. when rick perry called mitt romney a culture, the media cites it. republicans cite this because it's mitt romney saying it and
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clinton committed the foul of speaking the truth. >> what about that? he had previously said stuff about mitt romney and then walked it back saying on cnn it would be a would be calamitous. i mean, is he off message or do you believe that -- he's not off message. >> the president clinton has been fairly clear. you know, mitt romney has not been a job creator. he has created a lot of wealth for himself but he has not been a job creator. and if republicans want to focus on bill clinton we democrats are all in on it. the same sort of policies of having the wealthy pay their fair share to bring down the debt and growing the economy from the middle out is what we saw bill clinton do in the '90s and now people looking back at it and favorability, 66
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favorability any politician these days would kill for a 66% favorable rating right now. there is a reason people are in love with bill clinton because of the policies that grew income for everyone. >> i want to play the sound bite i referenced. >> the other issue was when you told harvey weinstein that mitt romney had a sterling reputation as head of bain capital and qualified to be president, this coming after the obama campaign ads going after him on his record at bain capital. >> that's two different things. you can be a successful business person and if you're governor of a state and you're 35 years old and you are by definition qualified. >> you suggested his qualifications were good. >> yes. but in the same sentence -- >> that's correct. >> very cleverly in the same
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sentence i said he shouldn't be elected because his policies are not good for america. >> you said it would be calamitous. that is going pretty far. >> if he were elected and implemented the policies he is advocates. >> how does it work if you have someone out, do they get a call after an interview where they said something that the white house doesn't like or mitt romney doesn't like? how does that work? >> it works awkwardly. you bet they get a phone call. i used to make em5th couple of themselves myself. part of the operation is message discipline. you want your surrogates to support the message of the principal. when they go off message account create controversy and when we do have to deal with the tax cuts in november and december, president clinton's words will be remembered fondly by a number
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of republicans and democrats. but people vote on the basis of the president. the surrogates can be helpful and it fills the debate but it comes down to the candidates. that's why i think that president obama is in trouble. popularity is not transferrable. and that is why he is in so much trouble, because of the state of the economy. as soon as the president said it, chicago was on the phone and calling others close to the president maybe called the president himself and president clinton is very clever. he's smart. he knew he had to rein himself back in. >> he will be out again, no doubt, a lot in the next couple months. freshman congressman says that president obama gives, quote, special waivers to muslims to avoid tsa screenings. not true. we're keeping them honest next. [ woman on radio, indistinct ] ♪ bum-bum
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coming up, an amazing story. she is heading to harvard in september but recently she had no home. how graduating proved hard work and the community's help can help overcome the longest odds.
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does the obama administration give waivers to muslims to exempt them from tsa screenings? of course not. so why is a congressman saying it does. the freshman tea party member is running for re-election in november. he is called himself -- calling himself the true conservative in that race. landry appeared on the jay
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succolo live for the american center for law and justice founded by pat robertson. landry was making a cason the obama administration case on contraception. >> i think the problem that americans are having is the hypocrisy of the administration. remember this is an administration who has no problem granting special status or waivers to muslims as they go through tsa screenings. >> say what now? that's not true. we asked congressman landry to come on the program and he declined. so we sent joe johns to capitol hill to catch up with him and keep him honest. you caught up with a congressman after trying to track him down. what did he say? >> congressman landry says he is being taken out of context. he says he was talking about health care, not tsa or muslims
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or airports. he was on the radio talking about how the administration makes religious accommodations at tsa so why not in health care. but if that was the point he was making it got derailed by the example he used. tsa regulations on head coverings specifically apply to people of all faiths not just muslims. here's what he said. >> you said that muslims got waivers. what did you mean by that? do you know something we don't know? >> well, look, you want to take my words out of context. i wrote an op ed on this piece in february. we issued a press release. it has been on our website since february. at the end of the day the administration has made accommodations, okay? for people who are wearing religious -- traditional religious clothings, muslims wearing headpieces or not there, have been accommodations made
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but it's -- and our nation has made accommodations for conscientious dissenters in the military. we could take the same approach to the hhs mandates. >> it drives me nuts when people say you take me out of context. let's say play what he said yet again on the radio. he wasn't saying all religious groups. he was saying muslims and probably maybe for reason or maybe that's all he knew at the time. i want to play this again. let's play what he said. >> i think the biggest problem that a lot of americans are having throughout is the hypocrisy of this administration. newsroom is an administration who has no problem granting special status or waivers to muslims as they go through tsa
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screenings. >> so he is -- he's only talking about muslims here as if there is some reason that the president has a secret affinity for muslims, i guess. >> this is the elephant in the room. we know how politics works the president's critics have found a lot of creative ways, frankly to get the words obama and muslim in the same sentence but landry claims he wasn't doing that. doesn't have anything to do with obama and trying to make him look muslim? >> no. this has to do with rights of conscious and that's the bottom line. >> i love it when people say stuff and refuse to discuss it further and come on the show and answer questions about it and when you do track them down they blame you as if you are taking it out of context. joe, i'm sure it was a long and exhausting day. i appreciate you doing that.
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thank you. we are back with a 306 bulletin. >> anderson, the family of a chinese student murdered in canada is in montreal to take him home. jun lin identified in this photo was mutilated and dismembered. luka rocco magnotta will face first degree murder charges. i rack executed an aide to saddam hussain. he was the secretary and body guard and number four on the u.s. military's list of most-wanted i rookies. spain's debt rating was slashed by three steps putting the bond one step from junk status. they are dealing with a banking crisis that may require a
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eurozone bailout. a toddler slipped through a railing and is dangling from a fourth floor balcony. a neighbor risked his life to help the child get up through the bars. there is no word on where the parents were at the time. a very lucky girl there. >> amazing. >> a new twist in the battle over backpage.com. the website suing the state of washington over a new law that requires backpage to verify the ages of the prostitutes, the escorts, the young adults in their services -- in their adult services ads. backpage claims they don't promote underage prostitution. why are they suing the state of washington? graduation, huh ? crazy, right ? well, with this droid razr by motorola on verizon 4g lte, you guys can stay in touch. ( grunts )
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another keeping them honest report. there are battle lines being
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drawn in court over backpage.com. it is a leading site on adult services ads. for months now we have been reporting on the push to shut down the ads where officials in various states say that underage girls are sold for sex. the numbers are staggering. there 50 cases in 22 states of people trafficking underaged girls for sex on backpage.com. and 19 u.s. senators, 600 religious leaders, 50 ngos in a petition with 230,000 signatures are calling on the company to shut down the ads immediately. backpage's attorney insists they do nothing wrong. look at what happened she was confronted in a recent report that aired on 360."
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>> how would you feel if you saw an ad like this or an ad like this? this girl says she's 19. if you saw your daughter in this -- like this? >> i would be horrified. and i'm horrified for those mothers and my heart goes out to those mothers and their daughters who are victims of exploitation. >> am i wrong? is prostitution simply illegal? >> it is illegal and we do not permit illegal activity on the website. >> what are they settling? >> legal adult entertainment services. >> if you look at the site you know what is being sold on the side. the attorney is talking about shutting down the adult services section. she claims that backpage helps in the fight against child prostitution because it keeps sex traffickers in one place making it easier for law enforcement to find them. she said to me that one of the biggest allies is the national
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center for missing and exploited children. she says they work together. but when we asked that organization if they supported backpage, the answer was an emphatic no. >> they portray themselves as the sheriffs of the internet and they are all about stopping illegal activity. do you buy that? >> i don't. what is happening is that the internet has become the primary resource, the clearinghouse for underage prostitution. >> do you think it would be a step in the right direction to shut down the site? >> i do. >> the state of washington passed a law that would require backpage to verify the ages of the people advertising in the adult services section but it's backpage challenged the law. and there is a 14-day temporary
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restraining order. i spoke to the rashz state attorney general rob mckenna. >> the lawyer says that it violates the first amendment and any rbs that allows users to post content could face charges. it would be a blow to the internet as we know it. what is your response to that? >> this law is narrowly tailored designed to get at ads for adult services as they're called, we're talking about ads for prostitution. it's designed to prevent children in being advertised online with the publisher's participation. since most people don't publish ads for prostitution or prostitution involving minors this is not broad and will not affect most websites. >> backpage claim they are part of the solution and are the sheriffs of the internet and if they shut down their site these people are going to gravitate to
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other sites that don't have any kind of sense of responsibility. what is your take to that? >> of course backpage wants to continue making, you know, 20 to $30 million a year for its owners, village voice media. >> this is what it's about for you? >> it's about -- >> it's money? >> that's clearly motivating them. other websites like craigslist have moved ahead to take down their adult services section and put in policy policies for policing ads. google does the same thing and so do other responsible websites. some of them may slip through but when they are spotted they are taken down. backpage is soliciting ads from pimps and prostitutes and encouraging them to place the ads with them. >> they claim they do enforcement and have letters from local law enforcement agencies who praise them for
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being proactive and being reactive. >> well, as your own investigation revealed recently, law enforcement does not support backpage as an ally but facilitating the transactions. your research confirms what i have found. >> one of the things i don't understand is that if they really wanted to check the age of the people involved who are advertising on their site, regardless of even whether or not they were, you know, having escort sites they could set up a local office in the cities they operate in and have customers come in person and verify the person posting the ad is actually an adult. i talked to the lawyer forback paige.com and i want to play for you and our viewers some of what she said. >> that is something that we
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have been exploring for months and continue to explore. >> what does that mean? you have been in business for a long period of time and plenty of people wanted you to do this before. this is not the first time you have considered this idea. why not just say we are going to do this. >> money is not the issue. the issue is how do you implement there. if you have any knowledge of how the internet works it's a practical impossibility in the internet realm. >> i'm clearly not an internet expert but i'm not an idiot. you can open up a local office. clearly this is an issue of money. >> for that matter they don't have to open an office. they can contract that work out like websites contract out other verification procedures to outside parties who monitor the site for them. they can use local agents to represent them who are reputable who can take the i.d. from someone who wants to place the
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ad. we know from interviewing the girls who are being trafficked they are forced by the traffickers to place the ads themselves and they have been having the girls use gift cards like, like a visa gift card to get around identification requirements. you have to have an in person verification system. but backpage doesn't have such rules now. >> attorney general mckenna thank you for being on the show. a new primetime special on sunday looking at what is wrong with the american immigration system and how to fix it. here is a sneak preview. michael bloomberg weighing in. >> you look at the danger of the current approach we have to immigration as quite substantial economically. >> is it the biggest economic issue facing the country. >> look at the nation's fortune 500 companies.
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here at this point in the show we are usually doing much different -- much more different -- what? -- sorry. we're usually doing much different stories than the one we are about to show you tonight. when we heard about the story we wanted to cover it. today is graduation day in lawndale, north carolina. you can forgive the crowd for saving their applause for one student. it is not a stretch to say that
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dawn loggins worked harder than any of her class. she earned straight a's and conquered more adversity than many will see in our entire lifetimes. warren savage her story. >> reporter: dawn loggins is in the hallways, classrooms, and bathrooms of the high school where she is a student and janitor. >> should be the root and father of many kings. >> reporter: then seven hours of advanced placement classes and honors classes and two more hours of dumping trash and picking up after classmates. >> if you have to wade through trash to get to your desk you're not going to have an environment that encourages learning. >> reporter: finally she tackles homework until 2:00 a.m. school officials knew something
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else about dawn. life at home wasn't exactly perfect. there were the eviction notices. the family moved a lot. burns high was her fourth school since eighth grade. when she asked about candles her boss realized she had no electricity. >> she came to me and said i need something to be able to do my homework by. i said we'll take care of that. >> reporter: there is also no water. >> we get water jugs and fill them up at the park using the bathroom and use that to flush the toilet and cook with. >> reporter: it got worse. last year when dawn tried to call him holm from summer school the phone was disconnected. her foreand stepfather moved again leaving her behind. >> i never expected my parents to just like leave. >> you were homeless? >> yes. >> reporter: dawn would crash on
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a couch here or a night or two on the floor there but still cleaning and still keeping up her grades. >> i think what motivates me is the fact that when i was younger i was able to -- a look at all the bad choices at the neglect and the drug abuse and i was not going to have to ask myself am i going to buy food this month or pay rent? >> reporter: what makes this so amazing is not just dawn loggins. the moment it was realized she was abandoned and homeless she should have been turned over to the state. that didn't happen. that didn't happen on purpose. >> we kind of took it upon ourselves to become her village. >> reporter: teachers and staffers made sure she was clothed and fed and had a place to live. >> the people are nice. we have good people in lawndale. it's a nice community. >> reporter: and it didn't end there. that same village was now to get
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her to college and not just any college, harvard. history teacher larry gardner wrote the letter and told dawn's story. >> she has known hunger. and abuse and neglect and homelessness and filth, yet she has risen above it all. >> reporter: months passed and acceptance letters arrived. then one day, the envelope with the harvard seal arrived. >> i'm delighted to announce that you will be admitted to the class of 2016. >> i didn't jump up and down or cry but i got the largest reaction out of any of my acceptance letters. i sort of did this, like -- >> reporter: her tuition and housing would be paid for. >> kind of teared up. this is a young lady who -- when
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i first met her and had her brother in class, they were living in a home without electricity, without running water. they were showering at a local park. >> she has not let the circumstances hold her back. that is going -- she's going to be that symbol that you are able to achieve and meet your milestones and goals no matter what. >> reporter: and that's how dawn loggins went from homeless to harvard. martin savidge. lawndale, north carolina. >> what an incredible woman. >> what a young lady. and she is so composed at well. >> i love her reaction is just covering her mouth. that is hard work. >> wishing her the best. >> yeah. >> what do you have for us? >> more headlines. let's bring the viewers up to speed. police are gathering evidence against the main suspect in the
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1929 murder. the police removed a hard drive and satchels. he confessed to strangling the boy and throwing the body away in a trash bag. 2,000 former nfl players are suing the league for failing to address the neurological risks associated with playing football. this consolidates 80 cases making their way through the courts. and a wild scene caught on camera in canada. a convenience store owner using a can of bear spray to turn the tales on the knife-wielding robbers. the owner pushed him over the counter and literally gave him a spanking. yeah. >> wow. not something you see every day. yeah. >> who is that lady? some other person just gets
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involved. >> getting a bit of a whooping there. >> yeah. >> one guy was arrested and the other one did a runner. >> is that what you call it in england? >> he did a runner. it's when you leg it. >> i don't understand a word coming out of your mouth. a boy leaving a world of silence, hears his mother's voice for the first time. you got to see this. hi cooper. hi, cooper. >> hi, cooper. >> beautiful. >> hi, cooper. >> hi, baby. >> amazing. >> he's had -- >> it's cochlear implants. his mom says his speech is coming along.
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tonight we are adding folks who are calling enthusiasm haters. there have been two stories about families getting in trouble for cheering at high school graduations. you heard me correctly cheering not at libraries or church but at high school graduations, events that happen to be cheerful. in south carolina the mother of
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a graduate was actually arrested. >> i'm thinking in my mind, you know i'm going to cheer. i went through too much to get her to this point. i can't show my excitement? i can't cheer? i can't applaud and let her know i'm so proud of you? like all the other years when people graduate? the superintendent said that cheering detracts from the dignity of the ceremony. >> there were family members in the audience, and eyewitnesss that when their child graduated in obedience to the instructions that were given they stood up and they did this. they didn't yell. they just did this. >> the superintendent said that is a way to thank the almighty. but is verbal cheering really such a bad thing?
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apparently so. apparently sew in ohio. they are withholding t the diplf this man. he received a letter saying that he would not get a diploma until he performed 20 hours of community service for the cheering at the graduation. the superintendent said that the parents were warned. >> had i not said to the people who were calling names, stop, the succeeding child's name would not have been heard. >> you have a lot of names to read, but you know what, you wait for the cheering to subside. i hate to think that cheering at a graduation should be a roadblock to someone moving ahead with their life. maybe becoming rich and