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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we have a very big immigration decision out of washington to tell you about. homeland security says illegal immigrants who came to this country as babies or toddlers and never known any other homeland, who may not know they are here illegally, won't have to fear deportation.
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it is a major development from an administration that's been under fire for record deportations. straight to brianna keilar at the white house who has been following this. it's not a stunning reversal of any policy or anything from the obama administration, but it certainly did come as a surprise that the announcement was going to be made today. >> reporter: this is certainly a very big deal, don, to protect young illegal immigrants. this is something that democrats and some republicans have been calling for in congress for over ten years now and has had a hard time getting through congress. but basically here is what the announcement says. if someone came to the united states as a child, so 16 years or younger, they don't have a criminal record, they don't pose a national security or public safety risk, in school or a high school graduate or have their ged or honor bli discharged former member of the military and not over 30, they would be
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eligible to defer deportation for a time period of two years which could be renewed and may be eligible for work papers. i just got off from listening to a conference call with janet napolitano and some senior administration officials. one of the questions that was raised was the uncertainty that something like this still creates some reporters were asking the incentive to come forward if, for instance, say president obama doesn't win reelection if there would be a different policy under governor romney. we're waiting to see what his response will be to this. if this is something he'll agree with. if there's no guarantee of a work permit, why people might come forward. but the bottom line, this is a huge play, no way you cut it, in an election year for a key democratic constituency and that is hispanic voters. >> people are saying this is playing politics. in an election year, it's all about politics. the main goals of both si
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candidates is to get elected here. the president is more than 60% of the latino vote already. so this certainly garners a bit more of that. i want to go into a little more detail about this. some people are calling it the dream act like. but in my estimation, this appears to go a little further than the dream act because it's for people who are even younger than college age. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. there are some differences, but it's like if you tweak some of the numbers. the work permit thing might be new, but it's somewhat similar. the idea is the same, if a young person has come to the u.s. because their parents have brought them here and it's not something they have done on their own but have reached a certain age and up for potential deportation back to a country that's not their home. especially in the case of young
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illegal immigrants who are doing fine and doing well in school and are still facing deportation. when you look at this through the political prism. you can see why this is an important signal that president obama is sending. if you look at the states that have growing hispanic populations that are key to his reelection, north carolina, where he just squeaked out a win in 2008, ohio, pennsylvania, virginia, iowa, these are growing hispanic populations. then there are states that are solidly hispanic like colorado and new mexico and nevada. because of the hispanic population, you could argue in the 2010 midterm elections, there were, for instance, senator harry reid was able to hold on to his seat and remain senate majority leader in nevada. that's something he could not have done without the hispanic vote. >> i want to talk about this because people have been saying this election is probably going
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to -- it's going to end up with the fringes with the women vote, the latino vote. that's what's going to decide this election. but i want to hear what republicans are saying now, but what they have said in the past, that they see this as sort of a back-door amnesty policy. certainly mr. romney and lawmakers want to tighten the borders here. they don't believe in what this new announcement and what this new announcement -- they don't believe in this at all. this is an opposition to their thinking about what we should do as far as illegal immigration. >> reporter: certainly, we're waiting at this point to hear from some republicans. i do understand, this is happening very quickly and i'm just hearing through my blackberry here, there are republicans on the hill that
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don't like this. but the other thing you have to consider is that this is something that targets, arguably, children. these are younger americans. that's certainly something that, i think, has the sympathy of many more americans than say some blanket approach where you'd just allow anyone in the country illegally to defer. so at this point, i think we shouldn't draw any blanket conclusions and we'll be waiting to hear what governor romney has to say about this. >> and you're looking at the blackberry and i'm looking at my notes as well. while we want to take a breath here, this is come iing in sort really quickly. standby. i'm going to bring in our senior latin affairs correspondent rafael romo. what i want to talk about, as i'm reading more of this, there have been closed door meetings with the administration that
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latinos have spoke on to the administration and to the president about this policy. record deportations. this is something he's doing months before the election. 61% in the latest polls that he had hispanic-latino vote. this will garner more of that vote and people are calling it politics. but it's not the end. this is not a path to citizenship. >> you mentioned that. obama won with 67% of the latino vote in 2008. you know very well when he was a senator in chicago, this is one of the issues that he would talk about constantly, favoring the dream act all the time. and one of the reasons why he got elected was because he was given that mandate to do something on the dream act. but what i'm hearing from latino leaders in the country, his administration deported 400,000 people every single year. for those expecting the president to do something, he
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has done very little. so now we have an election year. the announcement is being made. this has the potential of benefitting 800,000 kids. many of those kids have been protesting for years. this is an issue that goes back to 2005 or even earlier. so it is a great opportunity for them to have this dream come true. >> but as i said, to have the dream come true, isn't the end game citizenship where you don't have to go back and reapply every couple years for a work permit? the criticism from the right has been and will be that this is a run around them and also that this is a back-door to citizenship. even though it doesn't say that. >> the criticism from the right has been illegal is illegal no matter what. no matter if you came to this country on your own or whether you were brought in as a kid. it doesn't really matter. and the other thing is exactly what you mentioned. what kind of message is this
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going to give to the rest of the world? you come to this country legally, you bring your children, and once your here, your children are going to get this sort of back-door amnesty. that's been the criticism on the right. >> we've been assuming that every, just by the way we're speaking and i'm sure most are speaking, is this is something hispanics are in agreement with, but not every single latino believe in this policy. there are some that believe you have to come here legally. because i came here legally, by you not coming here legally, it makes the way i did it seem small or inconsequential. >> and it is a very good point. the latino vote is not monolith monolithic. you will find a significant amount that say that. most of latino voters, especially this year, and we have more younger voters, are
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going to agree with some sort of dream act. the negative effect on the latino community is not going to be big enough to offset the positive effect. >> we're not done with this subject. we're waiting for the president to speak here at 1:15. we'll carry it here and keep following the story. ou take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. [ male announcer ] ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now, that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health.
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we're following break news here on cnn. we're talking about the new policy on immigration to be announced by the white house shortly. janet napolitano is going to talk about that. then also the president will come out at 1:15 today and make his announcement as well. in the meantime, we're waiting for the republican response. specifically, from mitt romney, who is now in new hampshire. he's on his bus tour. he's been trapsing the country. yesterday raising almost $4 million. the president raising $4.5
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million yet. but he's making his campaign stop. he's in new hampshire. we'll continue to monitor that. this is going to affect the election, this whole announcement coming in an election year. the criticism is going to be that this is political from the republicans and also they are going to say this is in exact opposition to our immigration policy. they will talk about the jobs that it's going to take from americans. you can expect to hear all of that from the candidates and the president will talk about why he is in support of this particular policy. want to talk about greece on the final day of campaigning on sunday's do over elections. greeks have a day and a half to make up their minds. while the rest of us really hold our breath for the economic fall out. we have a report from athens. john, remind us of the
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connection between these greek races and the world economy. >> reporter: yeah, it's not a very big economy. less than $300 billion. it slunk 20%. this is a very deep recession. it's seen as a vote for the euro or against it. if you take a step back, this is a cradle of democracy. they are voting whether or not to veer left and go to communism. if they go left, there's a good potential they may opt out of the euro going forward. they joined the currency just ten years ago. so if greece goes out, it brings into question will there be another two or three countries that will consider doing the same. the italians have been yearning to go back to their old currency. so this could be basically the breaking open if the greeks decide to go to communism.
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if they say this is too much austerity, we want to opt out. it could shake the global markets. >> we just went through this about six weeks ago. >> reporter: yeah. we had the elections on may 6th. i think it shows the desperation of the people right now in greece. basically, i kind of see it almost like the arab spring. this is the greek spring. they are tossing out all the politicians that have ruled in this country for the last four decades. and they are so desperate they are thinking about bringing in someone to potentially go out of the euro because they don't see any hope in sight. unemployment rate of 22%. youth unemployment of 50%. they are going back to the polls. right now, they are neck and neck with new democracy with the far left party. so they are really desperate not
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romney going back to his roots to the town where he kicked off his bid for the republican presidential nomination. there you see him live. he's back for another kickoff, a bus tour that will take him to six states that will likely play a key role in who wins the november election. from new hampshire, romney will travel by both bus and plane to pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, iowa, and finally ending in his home state of michigan. that's on tuesday. jim acosta joins us. any response about this new immigration policy from the romney campaign? >> reporter: you know, don, not as of yet. we are waiting for that response to some of these moves on the the part of the obama white house. i will tell you, though, mitt romney has evolved on this issue of the dream act. a lot of people are comparing
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what the obama administration is doing today with immigration with respect to those young undocumented immigrants in the country and talking about it in the frame work of the dream act, which would give younger illegal immigrants a path to some kind of citizenship. the romney campaign has said earlier that he would veto that act or that legislation if it came to his desk. but i will tell you that back in april at a fund-raiser in florida, mitt romney did say that the republican party needed its own version of the dream act, because he felt that that issue was damaging the party among his panics. there is a lot of polling to demonstrate that. then at an event a week after that fundraiser, he said he's looking at marco rubio's version of that legislation. it's interesting to see how mitt romney responds to all this. this is overshadowing what they thought would be a big day for the bus tour. >> it's interesting you bring up
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marco rubio. i was going to ask you about that. he is one person they are saying possibly on a vice presidential contender for mitt romney. and i'm wondering on this particular issue, if someone like marco rubio helps out the romney campaign even more so. >> reporter: that's right. don, there are a couple of potential vice presidential running mates out on the campaign trail today. kelly ayott was just up on stage with mitt romney a few moments ago. and later today tim pawlenty will be on the campaign trail with governor romney. it will be interesting to watch. but don, this is a very interesting development on the part of the white house. the president had that big speech in cleveland yesterday. a lot of people in his own party did not respond to it very positively. then this development happens today. i would not be surprised if there's people inside the romney
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you're their immigration attorney. >> that's right. it does. it helps tremendously. >> sarah, how does it help your client? >> it helps those who -- it's not the end of the road, but it's great, great news. it helps those who were particularly those who were brought here without the intent to violate the law. so when they were much younger, have live d in the united state, are in school, have obtained a ged, and don't have criminal records to postpone deportation, particularly if they are facing deportation at the time and even if they aren't, they can apply affirmatively for this benefit. so it will allow them to live without the fear living over their head they can be sent back to their ohm country at any moment. >> she says this helps out her clients. thank you. we want to go to sheriff joe.
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sheriff, when you got the news about this announcement, thank you for joining us, by the way. what did you think? >> thank you, don. politics. why now? timing. why not let congress decide next year on this issue and on all of the illegal immigration problems we have. >> sheriff, you have been around long enough. it's all politics. are you surprised that this is politics? is that even a valid argument? it's all politics. >> yeah. we have the 1070 law, the supreme court will be coming down with a ruling very soon. why is he going all public on this? this is the first step towards amnesty any way, that's the main goal of this president. >> do you remember when i spoke to you a couple weeks ago and you said to me, listen, most people in washington have no idea of what we're dealing with on border states. they have no idea.
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they are just ignorant when it comes to what you say are the pressures that illegal immigration put on your state and states like yours and the borders. is this an indication of that? and not just from -- it it happens to be coming from a democratic administration, but i'm sure you still feel that way. i would think it solidifies your argument. >> yeah, in a way. we're going to continue enforcing this illegal immigration laws, including the state laws. we do have state laws that we enforce. but i'm just more concerned about the politics of this, whether you say it doesn't matter, it does matter. and i would like congress to look at this dream act issue next year and do something about it instead of talking all the time and letting the president come up with an executive order. >> sheriff joe, i didn't say it doesn't matter.
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should you be surprised by the politics, it's all politics. i also want to talk about this because there are people who say, and even some republicans, who say on this issue, republicans need to take a different look at it because it's hurting the party, it's hurting your candidates. how do you respond to that? >> well, let them take a look at it. let congress take a look at it. and you know, don't worry about the politics. let's get something done about it. one thing good about this, i hope it generates some interest with the people and with the congress so next year they will do something. very simple. if they want to change a law, that's okay with me. i enforce the laws. if they are not there, i don't have to enforce them. but i am going to continue to enforce all these illegal immigration laws and i'm not too concerned about the 1070, whatever they come out with because we have been doing it any way. >> you said you're going to
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continue to enforce immigration laws. does that mean that you are going to ignore what the president is going to announce today? >> no, i'm not going to ignore it. i'm not going to violate the constitution or the laws. but i'm just saying that congress should look at the situation and not let the president keep coming out with his executive orders at the time that he's running for president. it's all politics. you know, they have gone after me. investigating me, why did they take me to court? this is a political year. >> immediately -- any immediate impact on you and your state? >> no. we just arrested six more last night in the workplace. we still do our job. by the way, all these you say
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breaking news on cnn. a hot button issue, the department of homeland security says it is reprioritizing its deportation of illegal immigrants. if you came to this country as a young child, the government won't try to send you back. candy crowley joins me now to talk about the policy and the politics at work here. candy, i'm sure you saw my interview with sheriff joe. i have not seen him that down ever in an interview. he was not happy about that. and many conservatives aren't. >> well, yes, but it's going to be interesting to see how they play this. a lot of what the president has
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done here is something that senator marco rubio, a republican, had been working on. we haven't seen the details of his version of the dream act. it does go to the heart of the most innocent of those who don't have documentation here in the u.s. i mean, you know, they are brought here as kids. they were under 16. they have to be under 30 now to qualify for this. so we're talking about young people who didn't really have a choice about coming here. so kind of the most innocent of those folks that are here. and we have seen some of the republican party wanting to do something for these students and for these under 30s that came here as children. so while mitt romney first seemed to kind of rule that out awhile back, he clearly does talk to, has listened to, has been with marco rubio. so i will be interested in
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seeing what his take is on this particular issue. >> candy, are you saying people like marco rubio and mitt romney, who jim acosta said is revolving on this issue, are you saying this may line up to marco rubio's thinking? >> i'm saying that there are similarities certainly between marco rubio's plan and what he was talking about. and what the president is doing. we do know that mitt romney said i'm listening. it's an election year. but what we do know is that now both of these candidates are looking at swing voters. yes, this was a base move for the president if you want to look at it politically. this was to stir up the latino vote, which is already fairly democratic. but swing voters also look at
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things like this. and by and large, swing voters sometimes have looked at these in previous polls, have looked at immigration issues and sided more on the democratic side than the republican side. so mitt romney is no longer trying to appeal to the base of his party. we're now moving into swing territory. so i don't know what he's going to do. we'll let it be a surprise. but i wouldn't be surprised if it's not a full on, this is awful. >> okay. politically though, can republicans really oppose this? we're talking about productive young people who didn't knowingly break the law and if they come out strongly against this, does this make them, in some way seem mean or too stern or evil in some way. >> that's the concern. but we have already seen some republican reaction saying, wait a second. the president is sort of doing this by executive order,
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changing policy we have been discussing it up here. we think this is an election year ploy. we have seen at least one congressman say all this does is put more people into the workforce when americans are looking for jobs. so you're going to see most republicans, i suspect, will be against it. it will be interesting to see what mitt romney will do. >> candy crowley, thank you, we appreciate it. >> we're going to go to philadelphia where a jury appears to be struggling with a case of sexual abuse in the catholic abuse. this is the ninth day of deliberations in a trial that could put away a church higher up who knew everything and did nothing. sarah hoey joins me now by phone. jurors asked to rehear days of testimony. what happened with that? >> yes, it was the other day they asked to hear several days of testimony, to which the judge denied. they said you have to rely on
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your recollection. that's your job. we will not be retrying this trial during the deliberation stage. so you have to use your notes. use your brain power and think back to what you heard and who you believe and deliberate on that. >> the defense already pressing for a mistrial, correct? >> yes and no, don. how that works really is it's somewhat procedural, if you will. the jury had asked and actually was read part of the reverend james brennan testimony from a church trial back in 2008 regarding the allegations against him, which are that he attempted to rape a 14-year-old. we had heard testimony from that victim during the trial as well as wanting to compare and contrast these two testimonies. so his attorney was quite upset about that and made a fuss and asked to have a mistrial, which of course, the judge denied.
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so we're now day nine of deliberations. day 46 of this trial. >> sarah, thank you very much. it's interesting. not far away from there, they are dealing with a similar incident. we're talking about jerry sandusky also on trial. sarah, thank you. when and if these verdicts come in, you'll hear them first here on cnn. [ male announcer ] count the number of buttons in your car. now count the number of buttons on your tablet. isn't it time the automobile advanced? introducing cue in the all-new cadillac xts.
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right there he is. the vice president of the united states joe biden speaking live in orlando to give the keynote address at the u.s. conference of mayors. over 200 mayors from around the country are in orlando to discuss budgets, infrastructure, jobs, job creation at that conference. we'll follow. what is the best gift you have ever given your brother? what if i tell you one sister is giving him the gift of
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fatherhood. this is dr. sanjay gupta. we're talking about sur ga si. >> as a stand alone issue, it's complicated to make surg a quit and show you the couples here. if you look at the family tree, and we have a picture of this. there is a brother and a sister sort of at the heart of this. there is james, and his wife is natalie, and she could not have anymore children when jane, natalie's sister-in-law stepped in and said, i will be your surrogate. so sister is surrogate for brother and sister-in-law. take a look at how it happens. >> wow. >> october 30th, 2010, i was brought into the hospital, because i was two weeks late. i had to be induced. after he came out, i got to see
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him, and he got to be put on my chest, and then i basically just to start feel good. >> the bleeding slowly over 45 minutes started to get worse and worse as time went on, and basically they had to take your uterus out after trying to save it. >> we chose surrogacy as our first option, because i still had eggs left, and we were able to have our own child, it would be james and my child. >> after a couple of days in the hospital, my sister felt compelled to tell us that she would be more than happy to carry a baby for us. it just really brought tears to our eyes that my sister was that willing to do this for us. >> how are you today? you are pregnant. >> yay!
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we are having a baby! >> as we say ah, but it is not like the couples can shake hands, because there is a lot involve involved. >> even though they are related which makes it so interesting that you have to go through the medical tests which you would expect and psychological counseling done and this is a big decision to say, i will carry my brother's baby here, and besides this, it is an adoption as well, and even before the baby is born, and related, there is a paperwork that has to be dealt with as well, because in the end, if they change their mind or have second thoughts, it is a legal proceeding. >> i have been wanting to ask you about the next story and you remember the mini darth vader from the super bowl ad and you can show him. and i know that you have been spending a lot of time with him, and he has -- >> he is ridiculously cute kid. >> he is a cute kid. open-heart surgery yesterday?
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>> he was born with a congenital heart defect and he had the eighth open heart operation to replace a valve. he is doing well. we heard from, you know, they have been communicating with us, and we have become quite close. they said a couple of tough days and a lot of pain and doesn't drink water, and disoriented, but this is the reality for the kids they have this operation at birth, but it is a lifetime of operations for someone like him. but signs are looking good. >> that is him and his brother, right? >> yes, that is right. that is max and else, and they are watching, because they watch you all of the time. he is in the hospital right now, but i bet you he is making a good recovery. >> you will speak to the family again, because you spent a lot of time with him, and someone tells me that you hit it off. >> well, he wants to ask out my daughter, and 6 years old, and i said, well, a few years between my friend, max, but we will see. >> okay. have your shotgun with two beautiful daughters. >> three. three shotguns. >> three shotguns. thank you, dr. gupta.
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all right. breaking news here, the obama administration changing the policy on immigration. those who came here illegally as children will no longer be deported. they are going to issue work permits instead of deporting them. homeland security secretary made that announcement and also spoke to wolf blitzer who will be joining fredricka whitfield at the top of the hour, moments away on cnn. stay tuned for that. america's relationship with dogs is the focus of a new hbo documentary looking at the conflict and the passionate relationships that we as americans have when it comes to canines. kareen wynter gives us a preview of the heartwarming and sometimes shocking stories. >> reporter: for so many animals that can't be cared for, the reality can be grim as depicted in the new documentary "one nation under dogs" and stories of fear, loss and betrayal.
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>> it is the emotion that is overwhelming, knowing that you can't take everybody home. >> reporter: the scenes are graphic and uncensored. >> you can only save so many. so they end up in a gas chamber. >> reporter: but also uplifting and inspiring. >> we are seeing a sweet side now. all right. is this who you are? >> reporter: the film's heroes are remarkable, a tennessee-h based shelter that sells art to fund rescues. vol unentears saving hundreds of dogs from the puppy mills and a man with the gift of the ability to rehabilitate any dog. >> i look for dogs who might not have a shot, and i can give them a second chance. >> reporter: seeing a balance of hope and reality was important to the filmmaker helen guzman kent. >> america has a conflicted relationship with dogs. we love them, and yet we leave them. what that adds up is to 2 million dogs killed in animal shelters. >> reporter: she hopes that the message is loud and clear, inspired to adopt and encourage
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sterilization. >> people don't tend to spay and neuter their dogs, for some reasons, cultural and economic. and people don't know that there is a place to get it done inexpensively, and they have to understand it is not bad for the dogs. >> reporter: places like the amanda foundation spay mobil where haley and her uncle otto are leading by example. >> we found her on the street and brought her home. >> what we wanted to do at the amanda foundation is to use a template to be used through the country and show through education, service and goodwill, you can really change things. >> reporter: terry austin is the foundation's president. >> the spay mobile is 30 feet long and the biggest one in the country. >> reporter: austin has no ties to the documentary, but the mission is the same. >> reduce the number of dogs. >> it makes you feel how it is actually to be loved. >> reporter: responsibility is something that the eighth grader
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has grasped not only by setting an example p, b, but saving liv the process. kareen wynter, los angeles. > "one nation under dog" will preview on our sister network, hbo. i'm don lemon, and thank you. fredricka whitfield coming up, and let me guess what you are leading with -- immigration? >> yes, you better believe it. we will be handling that over the next couple of hours at the minimum. see you this weekend, don. >> okay. >> and let's get right to it, the obama administration announcing a major change in the u.s. immigration policy that has major political implications. the u.s. will stop deporting illegal immigrants who meet certain requirements and we will hear from president obama live at 1:15 eastern time. and home laland secretary janet
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napolitano explains. >> should they be deported they can be now identified as illegal immigrants? >> no, we are not going the do that. we have set it up internally so that the parents are not referred for immigration enforcement if the young person come s comes in for deferred action, however, the parents are not qualified. >> all right. that conversation with wolf blitz blitzer, and you will hear more from him and he will be anchoring the 1:00 coverage of the president's going to the rose garden to explain more on the policy. take a look here of the policy that applied to those who came to the u.s. illegally as children before the age of 16. they must have lived in the country for at least five years under this new policy, and they have to be in school, have graduated from high school or have served in the military. only those with felony or
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criminal records or who don't pose a security threat are eligible, and they must be eligible, and they must be younger than the age of 30. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com as we said, this story will impact the presidential race, and wolf blitzer will join us to talk about the political implications. wolf, the homeland secretary telling you that it falls within the existing law, and it is the right thing to do, she says, and how much of this is about policy, and how much of it about politics? >> well, it will immediately have an impact on hundreds of thousands of young people. they have grown up here in the united states, and there for the first time in their lives, they will be able to notify the u.s. government, and alert them to the status, and then they will have a legal status to be able to work and do whatever they need to do to go to school in the united states. and you just heard janet napolitano, the secretary of homeland security, and i taped an interview with her minutes ago saying that the parents don't need to worry that once
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their children go public and alert the u.s. government of their status, the u.s. government is not going to go after them even though they do have still technically an illegal status in the united states. it is a dramatic obvious development for hundreds of thousands of young people and their families for that matter right now. politically speaking, it will help the president solidify the base in the hispanic/latino community and key battleground states in certainly nevada and new mexico and arizona and colorado and florida. he will get increased support. but there are significant latino populations in states like north carolina and virginia and so politically speaking, this will almost certainly be a net-plus for the president, and we will see how mitt romney, the republican challenger either comes up to react to what the president has decided today. >> we do expect to hear from him as he has embarked on the six-state bus tour beginning
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with new hampshire, the state of which he made the first announcement of the candidacy. and wolf, too, this policy that napolitano says falls within the guidelines of existing law, this is also very similar to what the dream act would have done except for the dream act was to create a plan that would offer a plan to citizenship. is that what this would allow -- >> no -- >> -- a path to sit zcitizenshi >> no, she says this does not result in a pathway to citizenship for the 800,000 young people who will still have legal status to work or whatever in the united states, but she says it stops short of what the dream act would have done which is to provide this pathway to citizenship for kids who have grown up in the united states, finished high school and gone off to college in many cases, and served in the u.s. military and they would be eligible under certain conditions to eventually
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receive citizenship, and this by itself, this executive order does not go that far, and the secretary of homeland security suggesting that will have to await comprehensive immigration reform legislation that would be passed by the house and the senate, signed into law by a president. so she is holding off on that. >> and because this is an executive order, that is why the president was able to bypass any congressional support. we did hear from south carolina senator lindsey graham by way of twitter, and he tweeted, mr. president, i don't think that this is a wise way to fix a broken immigration system. this decision avoids dealing with congress and the american people instead of fixing a broken immigration system once and for all, and this is a classic barack obama move of choosing politics over leadership. back to the congressional support, the president didn't need it for this kind of executive order, period. right. >> they have a lengthy memo outlining why this executive order is legal and they don't need congressional action. the downside of doing this via
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ex executive decision or executive order if you will is that a new president is elect and sworn in on january 20th next year, he could issue on day one a new executive order reversing it if he wanted to do so. i am not saying he would, but presidents on significant issues like this, they prefer legislation, because it is much more difficult to reverse a law if you will than it is to reverse an executive order and executive order can be reversed by a new president who comes in, so, those are some of of the issues that i have to balance in moving forward. >> all right. wolf blitzer, thank you so much, and we will see you at 1:00 eastern as you will lead the coverage in the rose garden as the president explains the order. thank you, wolf. we will get more perspective on this, and talk about it with juan carlos joining us. how is this being received in the latino community? >> it is huge. it has been very well receive and everyone is going through the details to see how it will work and what the impact is.
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there is a similar program already in place called the t temporary protection status, tps and eight countries have that, and citizens off eight countries have that. and citizens of el salvador have been using it since 2001 and renewing every two years and it is a concept familiar with the hispanic community, but this is a big message to the latinos and something that a lot of the organizations have been asking for, especially these students, the dreamerers. they have organized themselves as the dreamers and they have been lobbying an lobbying the democrats and the republicans and criticizing both the white house and the republicans and they have been able to go as far as i believe it is a very important day for this group, and important day in the campaign for the hispanic vote. >> while it permits an allowance for the young people to stay in country, it does not as wolf was just spelling out and explaining it does not mean a path toward citizenship, so among the many who have lobbied for the dream act s there any level of disappointment that this is not a path toward citizenship, but
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instead a permit to stay in the country? >> they are optimistically cautious and looking at the details and rheaing throug inret they believe it is an important breakthrough, because many years of limbo, once this is implimented they might be able to get a driver's license and they might be able to do things that they have not legally been able to do like get a job. and many of the kids, you have to remember, were brought to the country when they were very small and under 16 and most of them know english more than their country. not all of them are latino, because you have children all over the world covered by this program, so they are organize and savvy, and they know what they are doing. i'm pretty sure they are going to be taking the next steps necessary to go from having something that they didn't at least this status that gives them the right to mo around and work and not have to hide to work to the next step where they expect that they should come through immigration reform.
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>> juan carlos lopez, thank you so much from washington. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. just a reminder we will hear from president barack obama next hour about the changes in immigration policy that will allow some young illegal immigrants to avoid deportation, and the president is scheduled to speak at 1:15 eastern time and of course we will bring that to you live right here on cnn. here is what we are working on for this hour. you think that the chaos in europe is a world away? think again. what happens in greece could affect everything from the u.s. economy to the race for the white house. and cairo ready to erupt again as promises of the revolution threaten to turn. and he was the 41st president of the united states. but there's more to george h.w. bush than his politics. [ male announcer ] this is genco services --
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journalist and immigrant and he publicly revealed his status in a new york times article and jose is joining me from new y k york. and jose, you and i just spoke yesterday about the article that you have authored in "time" magazine which is not only ousts yourself as you put it, but many other undocumented as you put it. the obama admin stristration ma this policy change this morning and let's listen to what the homeland security secretary janet napolitano had to say. >> there is a group of young people brought here through no fault of their own and they have not returned to their country of origin, and they have been in school or in the military and not been in trouble with the law, and we have to defer action against these individuals. that is what i am announcing today. >> all right. so, jose, you and i spoke yesterday about "time" magazine
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and you had mentioned even in the article that you were wondering since you revealed that you were illegal in that new york times article why immigration had not come after you, and why you had not been deported and so perhaps this was in the pipeline and this is a better explanation as to why perhaps you weren't deported. >> well, because, again, i haven't committed any sort of criminal serious felony. you know, i went to high school, middle school and graduated from college in america. i have contribute ed d to the country and i'm not a threat to this country. this country is my home. i grew up here. that is exactly the message that the obama administration and president obama is sending today. you know, these are americans. and at the end of the day, to give them status to go to school and to live their lives and a work permit is good for all of america, and it is good for all of us. >> and so looking at the criteria of the policy that is now effective immediately, and it seems as though just from
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what you riddled off, you qualify. you are law abiding and went to school and went to college, but you have to be under 30, and you are 31. >> yes. >> actually today, i have to say that today is probably the day that i feel old. i haven't quite had that feeling before but i feel old today. and again, given that i have traveled since coming out in "the new york times" magazine last year and i have been to 20 states and countless meetings and talking and hearing the stories of the dreamers and many of whom we feature on "time" magazine. >> bittersweet for you though? >> well, no. i mean, this is such a big win. it is not -- it is beyond politics. it is not about democrat or republican or about obama's re-election strategy, but at the end of the day, these are everyday people trying to live their lives and live as fully as they can. you know, they don't care about, you know, what is going on in terms of, you know, what the politicians are arguing about,
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they care about trying to make sure they are feeding their families and educated. >> part of the story, you were brought to the u.s. at the age of 12 by your aunt. >> yes. >> you didn't know that you were illegal. you would eventually learn that along the way. when you talk about having the dialogue with so many dreamers and this is everything that they have wanted, also what many of the dreamers so to speak have wanted is a path to immigration, and this policy, this executive order apparently does not do that. so, is it just shy of what you and other dreamers have wanted, orrer is this still a celebration? >> oh, it is a definitely a celebration. this is a definitely a celebration. what it is, too, is a solution. you know, i mean, so often in this conversation, we talk about the immigration debate, and there is a lot of yelling that happens, and people go into the corners, but we rarely ever talk about the solutions, and this is a solution. is it fully what we wanted? no. but at the end of the day, again, i care more about the
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kids that are in high school and in colleges all across america, and every year 65,000 undocumented students graduate from high school, right. they are one of us. and now, because of this directive, they are now going to be able to go to school, go to work and contribute. why not. that is a great thing. that benefits all of us. >> you are a reporter, and you have covered all sorts of things and you say that you were once an objective reporter, but now you don't want to consider yourself an objective one, because of your status, however, as you look at this policy as a reporter, do you see how this might greatly impact november elections? >> absolutely. i mean, the economy is a major factor in this campaign, but i actually would say it is not just the economy. demographics, and you know, it is a big, big factor in this campaign. four years ago at the washington post when i because reporter there, i went to nevada and colorado and new mexico, and the
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president would not have won without the latino vote in those crucial swing states. i mean, i understand looking at it from that perspective, but what i am more curious about frankly is how governor romney is going to respond to this. he has to be really careful. he doesn't, and do you want to alienate not just the largest growing minority group in the country, but a multiethnic america? in america in politics right now, diversity is destiny. it is inevitable. so how is the republican party and governor romney going to embrace that? >> jose antonio vargas, thank you so much for your time, and of course, at some point this mid-day we should be hearing from republican presidential challenger mitt romney, and of course, when we get his sentiment on this new policy change we will be able to bring it to the audience as well. thank you so much, jose. >> thank you so much for having me. >> in fact, let's talk more about what is taking place on the campaign trail from new mexico where jim acosta is and
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he is following candidate mitt romney in the six-state bus tour, and making the first stop at a place where he initially announced e candidacy, so has there been a response from mitt romney on this new immigration policy? >> hi, fredricka. no, not as of yet. reporters did try to ask mitt romney about this change of policy offat the white house. he did not answer those questions or at least, he didn't hear our questions, and they were certainly being shouted at him, but the music is turned up quite loud which is often the case at these campaign events, but i will tell you that i caught up with senator kelly ayotte who is one of the names out there who has been talked about as a potential vice presidential running mate with mitt romney, and she also said that she had not seen the president's proposal and she did not want to talk about it, but i asked her, you know, marco rubio, the senator from florida is drafting an alternative to the dream act and how does she feel about that, and rubio's al te
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terntive will provide some legal status to children of illegal immigrants and children who may be illegal themselves who are in this country, and kelly ayotte said, well, she has not seen the proposal from marco rubio, but she appreciated and said she appreciated marco rubio's efforts to provide greater legal immigration. so it is interesting to hear, fredricka, that the romney campaign, and that republicans are not immediately or at least the leading republicans on this issue are not immediately slamming what is happening at the white house. we are getting indications from the romney campaign that the former massachusetts governor at a stop later on today might have comments on this, and we were told, wait for the next event down in milford, so that is what all of us will be doing in a couple of hours from now. >> i wonder if the romney camp is assessing, because it is a delicate balance and the policy change could create new fissures within the republican party, because there are many republicans including as you mentioned marco rubio who have been working in some capacity on the dream act.
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>> well, yes. i mean, as you know, there are people inside of the republican party who are not going to like what the president did today. obviously. and mitt romney, himself, when he was running for the republican nomination during the primary said he would veto the dream act and now later on at a republican fund-raiser in april he said -- >> and he -- >> well, that is right at a republican fund-raiser in florida in april he said that the republicans need their own version of the dream act as a way to, you know, you know, broaden the appeal among the latino voters, and that was an indication that there is some wiggle room for the gop contender, but we will have to wait to see what he says this afternoon. i would say at this point it does not look like, and if you also, fredricka, i want to call your attention to because we just got this e-mail a few moments ago from marco rubio's office who said in the statement, that this is welcomed and this is going to be welcomed news for a lot of kids and families in this situation, but
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he called it a short term answer to a long term problem. so not necessarily slamming it, but at the same time saying, you know, this is not the right approach. and that might be what we hear from mitt romney later this aft afternoon, but we will have to wait and see. >> jim acosta, thank you so much. what a beautiful backdrop there in strathham, new hampshire. >> it is. >> and we will hear from president president obama in the next hour about the changes of immigration policy to allow some young immigrants to avoid deportation, and the president is expected to speak at 1:00 p.m. eastern time and of course we will bring that to you live right here on cnn. all right. this painiful story out of china. the government there apologizing for forcing a woman to have an abortion. don't forget, you can watch cnn live on the com-- computer are at work. go to cnn.com/tv.
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>> and now to a pivotal point in a major criminal case here in the u.s. jerry sandusky's child molestation trial. after listening to horrific allegations by eight of sandusky's victims this week, we are about to hear from the defense. they are expected to start calling witnesses monday. writer mark brennon is writer on statefight.com, and he has been in bellefonte, pennsylvania, all week long and good to see you, again. the prosecution wrapped up the case yesterday with the witness identified as victim number nine who gave a harrowing account of his en koucounters with sandusk
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and this is now going to give the jury an awful lot to think about over the weekend before the defense presents the case monday. does the prosecution feel like this is to their advantage? >> yeah, i would imagine so. it was obviously some of the most graphic testimony in a trial that is featuring a lot of graphic testimony. people are numb to the descriptions in the grand jury presentmentt and the police reports and this week, we heard a loot of the alleged victims up on the stand, and i think that it put a more of a human spin on it, because you saw the range of the emotions fr from anger to k and amazing to see the people up here going through this, and you got a feel for, you know, how much it hurt them. the other thing that i thought was important yesterday is that they put an act cessano on who connected the dots for the prosecution, and the jury has a lot to think about and sleep about over the weekend. >> and victim nine leaving the lasting impression, and what did
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he testify to specifically? >> well, he has testified to, and i don't want to get into the most graphic of it, but serious sexual, you know, sodomy basically is what it is. >> this is this the home allegedly of sandusky. >> yeah. and you know, screaming in the basement, and nobody helping him, and the whole courtroom was just rapt in staring at him, and you could tell how impactful that was. >> when that witness refused to look at sandusky, what was sandusky's reaction? what was the reaction of the jurors? the courtroom? >> sandusky throughout most of the trial from my view where i could see him kind of from the back and looking that way, he has been kind of not showing a lot of emotion, and sometimes joking with his attorneys, and during down times, but when victim nine or alleged victim nine was up there, he was doing a lot of the holding of the face, and he looked extremely uncomfortable, and the whole courtroom went silent when the
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alleged victim said he did not want to look at him. everybody was like, whoa, you know, you watch -- i think that you watch these things on tv and in movies, and it's almost as if that was a scripted moment. i don't want to say it was, but it was unbelievable how dramatic that was. >> something else that the jurors are going to be thinking about this weekend, one of the investigating agents from pennsylvania's attorney general's office testifying about a photo album found at sandusky's home. what was in that album? >> well, it was not just photos at his home, but also from the on-campus office where a search warrant was executed. they found photos of many of the alleged victims, including one specific victim over and over. they had photos of this person when he was a young man, and in penn state jerseys, bowl gamings, on the sideline and unbelievable. the other key piece of evidence that they found were second mile camp rosters, and that is the charitable organization that
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jerry sandusky ran with names of hundreds of campers and they had little xs or asterisks by the sides of the names of the alleged victims, and it appeared to be in jerry sandusky's handwriting and that really seemed, again, sitting in the courtroom, you get a sense of what the people are zeroed in on, and it is up on a huge screen on the wall, and they would show the whole list and then zoom in straight on into one name with two xs on it or a notation, and really hit home when you saw it with the name of an alleged victim. >> mark brennan, thank you for bringing that to us as the defense is going to be bringing its case monday in the jerry sandusky trial. thank you, mark. i think that what is going on in greece doesn't matter for your family? well, think again. we will tell you why the chaos there could affect everything from our economy to the race for the white house. hi, there, thank you for joining us. we are talking about student loans on help desk today. joining me is a personal finance
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author and founder of the financial blog "ask the coach" and also a financial professor and adjunct professor at nyu, david. and here are some questions we got on the streets of new york. >> is there a particular student loan organization or whatever that would be the best one to take my loans through right now? >> what do you think? >> well, most of the student loans have been taken over by the federal government. it used to be that you could do them through the banks, but the banks mainly do the supplemental loans and you want to start with the federally guaranteed student loans and these loans especially the stafford loan and the subsidized stafford loan allows for the interest not to be accrued while you are in school, and that way, they aare subdizig that interest and allowing a lower cost over time for the student. i recommend starting with that. those programs before looking at other options. >> there has been a lot of talk recently that student loan debt
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as it piles up in this country is the next shoe to drop, especially when the graduates have a harder time finding jobs, et cetera, and when you look overall at student loan debt, how much is too much? what are we seeing on average and what are the kids getting in into? >> we are clearly at the tipping point right now to say as a nation, we have way too much student loan debt. the numbers are staggering and we have $1 trillion in student loan debt and more than credit card debt. the average college grad cominging out of school with more than $25,000 of student loan debt. any time it is unaffordable, and any time you can't repay based on the salary, you have taken on too much debt. people need to think about taking on only as much is commiserate with the income. >> what do you do after you get that degree is critical. thank you both. we appreciate it. if you have a question that you want the financial experts to tackle. upload a 30-second video with your question to ireport.com. people with a machine.
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>> it is a potentially volatile weeke weekendb in parts of europe and northern africa that could have a ripple effect right here in the u.s. important elections in greece, egypt and france, but what may most impact your world and your bank account and your investments is what happens in greece. it is a vote that will decide whether the eurozone stays intact or falls apart, and if you think it is a bureaucratic exercise that only europe should care about, well, you need to think again. tom foreman lays it all out for us. >> reporter: almost 22% unemployment, drastic cuts in
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services and a shrinking national economy. greece is a mess right now, and that is a problem for the rest of the world, because of this, the euro. it is the common currency for many of the 27 countries and 500 million people in the european union, the biggest trading partner of the united states. this is the biggest trading alliance on the planet. so any upheaval is a worry. >> the european banks get into trouble, and that has an effect on the whole world's financial system including the u.s. >> reporter: but even the economic experts like doe min coe lombardi and kemel recognize that greece is tiny, but it has a big effect. >> it is an example of what happens in greece could be a contagi contagion. >> reporter: how would such a contagion work?
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imagine the trade between the eu and america happen? make the united states and greece the mom and dad, and as long as the kids play along, we have no problem, but imagine that greece grows up and goes off to college and buys a new car and a new wardrobe and new briefcase and greece wants to compete in the brand new world, but greece is piling up debt. to a degree, mom and dad can put up with that, but at some point they have to say, what if all of the other kids start to think that they, too, can play fast and loose with their credit, now the whole family is in danger of bankruptcy. if that happens investors won't invest, and businesses can't grow, an consukoand consumers c and many jobs in america that rely on all of the trade in europe could be destroyed. you absolutely believe that what happens to the euro can have a huge effect here? >> yes.
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if it is something that is extreme, no doubt it will have a spillover and repercussions on the u.s. economy. >> do you believe that the euro will survive this? >> i believe that the euro will survive, but i am not sure that every country in the euro will stay in the euro. >> reporter: for now, if the euro can survive the greek crisis and the potential contagion is contained, that may have to be enough. tom foreman, cnn, washington. so it all begins in about 36 hours, and we will go live to athens, greece. cnn's matthew chance is there, and matthew, which ever way the greeks vote, it is a potentially rough road ahead, isn't it? >> it is certainly for greece, because remember, they have faced five years of recession in the country, a nd they are absolutely sick to death of the austerity measures imposed upon them. they have seen the salaries slashed and the unemployment running at well over 20% across the country, and 50% amongst the
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country's youth and having a tough time of it and the truth is that there is no light at the end oof the tunnel if they keep making the austerity cut, and if they vote for that, and the government will do that, there is more pain in the future, but the alternative that we are hearing could be much, much worse for the people here. >> what are the latest polls saying? >> well, it is still very much divided. there haven't been any opinion polls for the last two weeks, because they are banned officially under the election laws here, but there are two camps. on the one hand, the people who are sick to death of the, again, traditional parties who have governed the country for 40 years and they feel they have let them down, and they want to u-turn on the austerity and others are scared of the consequences of what that might be, and we will just have to wait and see. >> thank you, matthew chance in greece. he has been a father and a president, and a father of a president, but there is more to george h.w. bush than politics.
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so we know him as the 41st president of the united states, george herbert walker bush, but a new hbo documentary airing now shares light on the personal side of the former president. i talked to the producer jerry weintraub about what it reveals, like president bush's comedic side. >> reporter: do you feel that he kept that close, and he didn't
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want people to be amicable or funny he was while a sitting president? >> no, he was amicable and a lot of fun. he had a big job. remember, people forget this or maybe some don't know it, he was shot down in the world war ii, and he was in a little fighter plane. he was a young man, and he got shot down, and he should have been dead. luckily, a submarine came along and picked him up and rescued him. so he was very serious about his job as president of the united states. it wasn't cavalier, and when he sent the kids to war, he knew what it was, because he went, himself, and he almost died. so he was a serious man, very, very serious man. there was a great -- and he has a great sense of humor, and he can't punt very well, but other than that, he was a very serious
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gu guy. >> and the bush legacy, was it his intention to groom his sons to become governors and the president? >> no, i don't think so. i have never had that discussion with him. but i don't belief he groomed them to be anything other than to serve the country and serve themselves and be decent people and citizens. his family is a wonderful, wonderful family. barbara bush is a great partner for him. she's an extraordinary woman. his children are terrific. and he's -- i don't think that he ever set out for his son to be president of the united states, and i think that he was extraordinarily, and i know he was extraordinarily proud of the fact that his son was president twice. >> what was it like to see your son elect ed president? >> very emotional for me. very proud father. first time it has happened, i guess, in the history of the country except for the adams, but it was mind boggling and
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enormous. and a source of great pride for the family. >> the documentary 41 is airing on hbo. it e debuts two days after president bush's 88th birthday. what does this new immigration policy really mean for the country's hispanic population? we will take a deeper look. medicated pain relief you store in the freezer. brrr...see ya boys. [ male announcer ] new bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on.
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all right. updating you on a big story this hour. a major change in america's immigration policy. some young people in this country illegally will no longer be deported to the homeland. rafael romo is our senior latin america affairs editor, and so who are the people who make up this 800,000 -- i am getting ahead of myself, 800,000 young people who would qualify for this new executive order, this new policy? >> the majority by far his p hispanics. hispanics have been very much
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involved in this, and you can think of examples for like j jessica, here in georgia who was arrested for not having a driver's license, and that was documented nationally, but some of the criteria of the department of homeland security is outlining today, and all of the kids have to be of a certain age, have an education or be enrolled in a school, and have served in the military, and very specific criteria, and one of the main differences between this and the dream act is that this does not include a path to citizenship. all of the revisions of the dream act included that, and that was a major contentious point. this is only a deferred action which means that these kids who might otherwise be the subject to deportation can stay in the country without any fear for the next two years. >> they could get a work permit or get a driver's license or could continue on with college if they wanted to?
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>> exactly. >> no questions asked. >> the most important thing here is the work permit which didn't exist before. and many of these cases, we have seen kids who are going to college and for whatever reason many of these kids have been arrested while driving, so we are not talking about a felony or major crime, but a traffic violation, and they are picked up, and that when the authorities realize they are in the country illegally, and this decision essentially an executive order is meant to protect those kids. >> in is effective immediately. we know that the president is going to be coming out in the 1:00 eastern hour, and roughly 1:15 eastern time to talk from the rose garden to spell out more about this policy, and his feelings behind it. but this is effective immediately. >> that is exactly right. it is effective immediately, although, you have to keep in mind that it all depends what happens in november. if president obama wins, then he can submit a bill to congress, and then they can go through the process again. >> would he need to?
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not for this act, but to pursue the dream act? in order to get congressional support? >> to get a path to legal citizenship, he would have to do that. if romney wins, he has, and i'm not saying that he would do this, but he has the ability of day one saying, i'm repealing this executive ordorder, and it dead as of now. >> and thank you, rafael romo. we will be hearing from the president of the united states in roughly 20 minutes from now to elaborate more on the policy. and billie jean king, and you know the tennis legend fighting for women in sports for nearly half a century, and you will hear part of her interview with me. ♪ [music plays]
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