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welcome back. we hope your heard it right here. the president taking executive action, kout consuling congress he will seek to stop deportation of 800,000 young people who are here illegally. jessica yellin, our senior chief white house correspondent. >> reporter: it affects, you said the number of people. here are the categories of people. it's young people that came to this country because their parents were illegal immigrants and brought them with them. it applies to people who were
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under 30 years old, who came to the u.s. before they were 16. they had to have arrived younger than 16. they must have no criminal record and must have a high diploma. they can apply to stay here for two years and after the two years time assuming this policy is still in place apply for another two years and so on into this future assuming the policy remains in place. >> i think we have some sound from the president. >> it makes no sense to expel talented young people who for all intents and purposes are americans and have been raised as americans and understand themselves to be part of this country. to expel the people who want to start new businesses or defend our country because of the actions of their parents.
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>> that's the president. on the flip side here, we've been getting paper statements from a lot of republicans. i want to read something that steve king said out of new york. he said americans should be outraged that president obama is planning to u surp and grant amnesty. we suspect he will not be the only republican who uses the word amnesty. >> reporter: they are emphatic this is no way amnesty. they are only allowed to stay for two years and have to re-apply. there's an ongoing process the the administration says it's using resources differently. they are focusing resources on deporting people who come over the border repeatedly. adults who come over and over and keep getting sent back.
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people who are threats to society. janet napolitano said this is not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to individuals in each case. bro brooke, there's going to be a lot of disagreement. there always has. they are emphatic this is no permanent path to citizenship. fp a person applies for this program. in two years time say if president obama isn't policy, they have declared them illegal. who knows what would happen to them in the future. >> i want to throw one more at you because i've been getting all these tweets because of this change in policy. this one person brings up this point. ask what would happen to us who already moved back, presumably home moved back to do it legally. what kind of message does that
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send to the youngsters who said let me go back home and file the proper paper work and do it the right way? >> reporter: the administration's response to that and obviously it's not in any way fair for everybody, and there are many people who think this immigration system is just broken. i don't think you're going to str a lot of people that will dispute that. they say that's why we need comprehensive immigration reform. that's whooi the president said that's what we should push for it will be something you see both candidates talk about a lot between now and the election. they will be campaigning in states where this is a hot button issue. >> i think that's precisely the adjective the president used. the president was interrupted by a reporter from the daily caller. you don't see this often. a reporter starting an argument
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with the president during the middle of a major announcement. >> it's the right thing to do. excuse me, sir. it's not time for questions, sir. not while i'm speaking. >> there you go. that is the person who was shouting. a reporter took exception to the president's announcement. he was heard to say to other reporters he had to ask questions they wouldn't. we're looking into this guy. now to quite the talker today, this controversial story. a michigan democrat said the word vagina in an abortion debate and republicans barred her from speaking on the state house floor. here is the exact remark from lisa brown. >> i have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. why are you asking me to adopt yours? finally, i'm flattered that
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you're all so interested in my vagina but no means no. >> lisa brown. my next guest. this message. back from the worst economic depression. almost 4.3 million new jobs we're still not creating them president's jobs plan firefighters, police officers, work. right now. wealthiest americans congress refuses to act.
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fair warning. i'm about to say a word that some you have will find offensive. here is the warning. vagina. does that make you uncomfortable? it's a good thing i'm not on the floor of the state house. republicans barred lisa brown from speaking yesterday after she said this in a debate that would put all new ri strixs on abortion. here she was. >> i have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. why are you asking me to adopt yours? >> finally, mr. speaker, i'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but no means no. >> so, that made some republicans practically cover their ears. state representative mike caltin said it was so offensive, i don't want to say it in front of women. i wouldn't say that in mixed company. the voice news quotes a spokesman saying it was thought
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that reference crossed the line and he gavelled her. it has nothing to do with their religion. it had nothing to do with the topic itself. the fact they said vagina on the house floor isn't a problem. let me bring in the woman who uttered the words, lisa brown. i probably wouldn't agree with the quotes. good to see you. >> thank you. >> here is really my first question. what is it about the word vagina that made the republicans so squeamish, you think? >> i wish i could answer that. it's really baffled me the reaction ta people have had. it's an anatomically correct name for a body part. i wonder if i said elbow would everybody be squeamish about that. it's the same thing. the word vagina exists in three different places in michigan law. >> so, now that we've said the word, and i feel a feeling had you said elbow, we wouldn't be
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talking. i preem you heard from many a constituent. what kind of response have you been getting? >> overwhelming response from my constituents and people all over the country cheering me on. thanks me for being a voice for them. it's really been overwhelming. it's been incredible. >> let me point this out to our viewers. you said this is about your religion. you said it on the house floor wednesday before you were barred. let's listen. >> pregnancy does not matter where ever there's a question of the life of mother of the unborn child. jewish law representing the mother. >> do you think you were silenced because of your jewish faith? >> i was told by my leadership that i was banned from speaking on the floor on thursday.
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when i asked why, she said they wouldn't tell her. that left me to guess as to why. i had no idea. i don't think i did anything wrong. i only said a few comments. one of them was about my religious beliefs and the other one was saying the word vagina. >> you don't know definitively if it was because of your religion or not? do you think it was? >> i hope not. that's all i said is i hope not. still to this day, to this moment, no one has told me what i so called did wrong. i don't think i did anything wrong. like i said, i was left to guess a as to what was so offensive to someone. there's only really two choices. it's my religious beliefs or using the word vagina. nothing wrong with either one. >> it's true that the jewish religion beliefs abortion is
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acceptable. is it fair to accuse republicans of hushing you on the floor, again, you said this is a guess because of your faith when there are so many others who do believe the same thing? >> yeah. i was just speaking for myself and my beliefs. i have tried to educate my colleagues to understand that different religions have different views on things. in my first term we took up a bill regarding body parts of deceased people and the disposing of them if there's been an autopsy. i brought to everyone's attention the religious belief for burial. you're supposed to have all your body parts and they shouldn't be retained after an autopsy. it came to light that other religions had similar views. this legislation was modified afterwards to accommodate those
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beliefs. i just try to educate people that not everybody has the same view. when you're talking about abortion, which is what this bill was about. that's why i used the word vagina because that's where abortions happen. it really is whattive found is a religious belief in how people view choice. that's why i was expressing my religious beliefs. >> taking that conversation beyond religious beliefs and back to the word you used. what if a male representative same spot on the floor talking about his penis. can you see how some people would be offended by that? >> if it's pertinent to the bill. if we're talking about viagra, it's absolutely appropriate. you are supposed to speak to the bill. >> nothing wrong with it? >> my words were germane to the legislation before us.
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>> speaking of vasectomies barb was banned. >> question for the house on the adoption of amendment 2i. members may vote at their desk. the amendment is adopted. >> you saw her there. hand in the air. trying to introduce this amendment to ban men from getting a vasectomy unless it was necessary. >> i didn't have to vote for that. >> if you did? >> i think we're trying to make a point. that's really what it's about. representative byrom was not recognized. there was no reason for that. we should have been allowed to speak. >> was it a point or a stunt that so often you have democrats accusing republicans of doing that? >> no.
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i don't want to speak for my colleague but my colleague has said that she believes that if we are truly concerned about a pregnancy, it takes two to make a baby. that's her perspective. >> michigan state representative lisa brown. thank you. you ever heard of pandora radio. it's been changing how we listen to music by predicting what we want to listen to. we'll talk to the man behind it. . like a cheerleader on espresso. toss these little scent boosters in before you wash. and the fresh scent will last until you're ready to wash again. [ buzzer ] [ laughs ] [ both sniff ] and this fresh scent will last? it's like you shoved a rainbow up your nose. i should go. downy unstopables. the fresh too feisty to quit. my son and i never missed opening day.
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how you and i listen to music has been evolving and evolving. woe have our favorite tunes cued up. how about songs that are predicted? pandora is that service. it take a song or even a genre and streams music that you will love. it's also free. here with me is the man behind pandora. welcome. >> thank you. >> you came up with this. how?
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>> well, i was a muse sigs for many years before the company. i was a film composer for a while. i spent a lot of time thinking about music taste and why people like what they like and sort of dissecting music and mapping tastes onto musical attributes. >> how do you stay competitive? pandora has been around since 2000. >> 2005. >> it will say runnings mix or a dance club mix. it's taking it to another level. to you feel the heat from all these other apps? >> the funny thing that surprises people is radio is the primary mode for music. 80% is listened to radio as oppose to on tdemand. people still like ease of use, discovery. that's where pandora lives.
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>> i enjoy it and other people enjoy it because someone pops up that they never heard of before. obviously, the ads are annoying but you have to be paid. if you plug in elton john. you hear rocket man and piano man too much. can you to stop that? >> some people like repetition. it's an evolving process. we have been working on personalization for years. different strokes for different folks. >> tell me about your partnerships with different car companies and how is it replacing the radio? >> when the smart phone came along that transformed our company. people began taking smart phones and plugging them into things. the car dash being one of them. that led to this avalanche of
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car companies realizing i can connect and bring this into the dashboard. every major car companies is leasing new models with pandora into the dash bed. in the long run that's an important space to be in. >> i know you have a lot of people working for you. you got to give me something. what's next? >> we don't preannounce stuff. we can't do that. really right now the big new development for us is we have become by virtue of our skill, we have become the biggest radio station in atlanta. we are hiring local sales people all over the country. it's really changing the
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who had the meltdown. releft the cockpit screaming about al qaeda about the plane going down. today, a judge ruled that he is competent to stand trial. his attorney plans to use an insanity defense. an amazing rescue video. this is the chicago river. watch this. a man here in the kayak is holding man's head out of the water. witnesses say the man was reading a book on the river bank when he suffered a seizure. he fell. he fell into the water. a police boat arrives. officer jumps in the water. medics rushing him to the hospital where he is in critical condition. firefighters are making progress in controlling a raging wildfire in colorado. it's now burned 52,000 acres and is now considered about 15% contained. last night flames crossed a highway forcing about 80 more
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people to evacuate their homes. hundreds of families anxiously awaiting to hear if their homes have been lost or not. a preschool graduation ceremony gets a little more than out of hand. the whole thing caught on camera. take a look. these are mothers. the fight broke out among this group of moms in a school in los angeles. there weren't enough caps and gowns. kids had to take turns as parents took pictures. look at this. i think things got more than heated between the moms. two moms started fighting. one woman suffered a cut lip. no charges were filed. mitt romney kicks off a major swing. we'll take you to one of those stops and see if he said anything about the big changes in immigration policy. that's next.
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the banks mainly do supplemental loans. these loans especially the stafford loans allow for the interest to not be accrued while in school. it allows for a lower cost oerve time for the students. i'd recommend starting with that and those programs. >> there has been a lot of talk that student loan debt as it piles up in this country will be the next shoe to drop especially when they have a harder time finding jobs. when you look overall at student loan debt, how much is too much? what are we seeing on average? >> i think we're clearing at the tipping point. as a nation we have way too much student loan debt. we have about a trillion dollars, more than credit card debt. the average college grad comes out with more than $25,000 in student loan debt.
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security and president obama spoke about today. we're going to talk to jim there. paul, i know you are smack dab in the middle of this rally. what were some of those youngsters telling you? paul, can you hear me? >> reporter: yes. i can hear you now. thank you. >> talk to me about this rally. what were the kids saying? >> reporter: well, what they were saying is they were ecstatic over the change in the obama administration. they were concerned this this would not come about. today you had true emotion and many of the young people here shedding tears because of the positive news out of washington, d.c. >> sorry. had someone in my ear. do we have sound from some of the folks you talked to?
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an immediate affect on people like jessica. she came illegally with her parents when she was ten years old. in 2010, a routine traffic stop changed her life and a threat of deportation to mexico has been hanging over her head until today. we talked over the phone a couple of years ago when you were in that deportation center. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you have a valid work permit. because of these immigration changes when that does expire, you can now reup that permit. that's your case, right? >> correct. >> what is your visceral reaction to what you heard from the president? >> i was very thrilled about it when i first heard about it. i think it's positive and something the obama administration should have done a long time ago. >> let's go back and tell the viewers your story. it was two years ago when you
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were driving. you were working on getting your degree here in georgia. what happened with your car and police? >> an incident that led me to immediate deportation proceedings. >> before you got to the proceedings, you were in a jail? >> yes. i was in three different detention centers for a total of 37 days. >> during that time when you were that detention center i went to your mother's house. she spoke to me in spanish from tears and i spoke to you. listen to this. >> i'm here in place where i'm being treated like a criminal. i'm leaving my family behind. basically, my life has been destroyed because of this minor
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incident. >> my life has been destroyed because of a minor incident. do you remember that conversation? >> absolutely. absolutely. every time i think about it, it makes me sad because i know that it was one of the worst experiences of my life. >> describe it. >> it was the first time when i really doubted the american dream. at some point i thought it was a myth. every single person that once told me that your education will get you somewhere, i really thought that they were all lying to me at some point. >> because of the changes that the president and the department of homeland security secretary outlined today, obviously, there's a lot of criticism. we're hearing from republicans. i want to read something. he said many illegal immigrants
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will falsely claim they came here as children and the federal government has no way to check whether their claims are true. it goes on. won't it be hard to know who is who? what do you think? >> i guess have to respect his point of view. when you enter a process like this, there's so much evidence that you have to submit to the immigration officers. it's not going to be just a piece of paper saying or a written statement saying i've been here for such amount of time therefore i qualify for this. it's a lot of evidence that you have to submit and based on that, you could be eligible for this kind of relief. >> how old were you when you came over? >> i was 11 years old. >> what do you consider home? >> the u.s. just because i
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learned to respect american values. every time i think about it, i ask myself how can i not be an american when i pledge allegiance to the flag every single day in middle and high school. >> there are some americans that say that's well and good that you pledge your allegianallegia your parents didn't. you shouldn't get this sudden status, that it's fine you're here. what do you say that? >> i believe that everyone deserves a chance. that's what i'm asking for is a chance. ultimately, i want to contribute back to this country that i've called home for so many years. >> what do you want too? what's the future? >> i still want to go to law school and practice immigration law. >> thank you. nice to see you again. >> nice to see you too. >> best of luck. coming up, van halen vans
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it is father's day this upcoming sunday. a woman is giving her brother the ultimate gift this year, giving him fatherhood. this is a medical story for the modern high-tech age. what a story. i've never haurd something like this before. >> you're talking about two families, a brother and a sister who decided to share a child. take a quick look at this graphic here. in the striped shirt you see james. james is married to natalie. together they have one son. after that delivery she had to lose her uterus. her dreams of having a big family were shattered.
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that's where tiffany stepped in. tiffany is his sister. tiffany and sean have two kids. this is how it came together. >> let's take look. >> october 30th, 2010, ifgs brought into the hospital because i was two weeks late. i had to be induced. after he came out, i got to see him. he got to be put on my chest. i basically just started to not feel good. >> the bleeding slowly over 45 minutes. it started to get worse and worse. basically they had to take your uterus out >> we chose sur ga si as our first option because i still had my eggs left. we were able to have our own child. it would be james and my child. >> after a couple of days in the hospital my sister felt compelled to tell us fa she would be more than happy to
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carry a baby for us. it just really brought tears to our eyes that my sister was that willing to do this for us. >> we have good news for you today. you are pregnant. >> yay! we're having a baby. >> one of the questions i have is, obviously, it's a special father's day for him this coming sunday, but also the fact when you think of a surrogate, you think of someone that walks away. is out of couple's life. >> that's a really good point. it's tough, i think. they talked a bit about this. we'll follow them throughout the entire pregnancy and the way you are as a mom when you're pregnant. little things that you do. now the other mom is watching. she's a relative. besides medical examines that you go through, results of psychological testing.
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both sets of parents. >> as in counselling? >> making sure they are prepared. probably addressing the issues you just raised. also is this an adoption. they have to sign adoptive paper work before the baby is born. >> even though it's a sister? >> even though it's sister. it's a remarkable story, but it has to be treated like family b has to be treated like a sur ga si. >> so you will follow this through. >> yeah. after meeting them like that, there's no way you can't help you want to see that. we know she's pregnant now and we know they're going to get a baby. and some of the questions and concerns people have raised including yourself, we'll talk about that. i think people will learn a lot about that. >> thank you, sanjay gupta. you can follow this pregnancy along with the good doctor. it airs this saturday at 4:30 p.m. eastern and again on sunday morning at 7:30 eastern time. we are minutes away from mr. blitzer in "the situation room." what a day when it comes to
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really historic immigration policy changing. wolf, who are you talking about -- who are you talking with about it later? >> janet napolitano, the secretary of homeland security, former governor of arizona. she's the one who made the initial announcement. the president later followed as you know in the rose garden. so i've interviewed her. and we go through some of the sensitive points including the accusation this is all about politics, the president trying to consolidate his support in the latino community looking ahead to november, november 6th specifically. so we get into that. also, what about the parents of these young kids who are now going to have some legal status at least for two years? not necessarily a full pathway to citizenship or amnesty or immunity or whatever, but they will have legal status. they won't be deported. what about their parents? how nervous should they be? we get into all of that as well. we'll have a full discussion of the substantiative policy of this announcement by the administration today as well as the political fallout including getting a lot of angry reaction
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from republicans out there not to be surprised. >> wolf, we'll see you at the top of the hour. thank you, sir. meantime, they have been on hi atis for a couple weeks. it's back. our behind the scenes looks at the show. we're going to call it, as always, the week winddown. >> by the way, this is your first week wind down. this is the good doctor. we're just making you play in the fun video we do behind the scenes. cool? >> i love it. >> i mean, obviously this is the priority right now. >> hello, yes. >> okay. no. the priority's talking to you about -- yes, thank you very much. >> and we will air the whole thing of course on the brooke blog. go to cnn.com/brooke. rock fans, get ready to rock. up close and personal here interviews with famed guitarist eddie van halen, rumors and the future of his music. don't miss this.
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we the lenld dare rock band tours, rumors follow. when the band decides to take a break, the rumor mill goes into overdrive. so we went straight to the source to get the skinny on the tour postponement, david lee roth and the band's future plans. and we also got a bonus, an inside look at the special bond this upcoming father's day between father and son. when van halen recently postponed 31 tour dates without an explanation, there was fear that guitarist eddie van halen might be experiencing issues with his health. >> no cancer. whole dimpt question -- i'm kidding. >> we bit off a little more than we can chew. dad's perfectly fine. >> on june 27th, van halen will be taking a break from touring after 50 shows supporting their new album "a different kind of
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truth." they insist it has nothing to do with any tensions between themselves and off-again-on-again front man david lee roth. >> he's hilarious. watch him on stage. he makes us crack up all the time. >> in los angeles for a two-day layover, we caught up with eddie at his home studio. >> this is the infamous '50s recording studio. we were standing in the drum room. that's storage and piano room and this is guitar room and obviously that's the console on the other side of the glass. >> his son spent a lot of time in this studio as a child. at age 16 he joined van halen as its base player. his first gig was the band's reunion tour with roth in 2007. >> dad taught me like how to do some power chords when i was like 13. >> yeah. simple. move your hand around. that's all -- >> taught me the early stuff and i kind of took it in my own
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direction. >> wolf was just a toddler when eddie noticed his son's passion for music. >> we were in the kitchen and the commercial "i feel like chicken tonight" and i saw him boogy and he had rhythm. >> the two share another common trait. >> we both get so nervous. >> oakland. >> oakland, before we went on, i hurled. blew lunch before we went out. that's how nervous i get. still. >> they say van halen may return to the road by the end of the year. >> i know that there's been talk of australia and japan in october and november. don't quote me on that because that's management that takes care of that and call us and say you're going here now. but i heard talk about that. >> despite releasing their new album in february, they are planning to work on some new music. and maybe listen to some old tunes in their tape vault for
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inspiration. >> this is actually where we drew a lot of demos out. >> a lot of music up there. one of these days -- you know, you have to bake them to make the adhesive go back into the tape. i always thought it was easier to write a new song -- >> than dig through the old ones. >> there's a lot of music up there waiting to be heard. >> there's a lot of muse nick here. >> and here. >> i'm just the luckiest father on the planet. i mean, for what he's grown up in. he doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs. >> you're not so bad either. >> anymore. >> van halen will be on tour this weekend. business as usual despite a special holiday on sunday. >> happy father's day. >> when are you going to be a father? >> stop already. >> let's wait for that. >> no pressure. no pressure. our thanks of course to them for
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