tv Sanjay Gupta MD CNN June 17, 2012 4:30am-5:00am PDT
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join in a special performance of "the vagina monologues" in lansing on the capitol steps. she'll be joined by the award-winning playwright and several female democratic lawmakers. lisa brown was giving an impassioned speech against a bill that could restrict abortion when was she shouted the word. take a listen. >> i have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. why are you asking me to adopt yours? and finally, mr. speaker, i'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but no means no. >> michigan republicans said she wasn't punished for saying "vagina" but for violating decorum rules and acting unprofessionally. i'll be back with more headlines at the top of the hour. sanjay gupta begins right now. hey there, thanks for joining us. got a lot in store today. gymnast dominique moceanu -- remember her from the
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magnificent seven? she'll drop an olympic-sized bombshell. plus, a sister giving her brother and sister-in-law the ultimate gift. a baby. they're called surrogate sisters, the good, the bad, the ugly in a few minutes. first, we're putting mitt romney and your health care under the microscope. the supreme court will decide this month whether the president's health care law will stay or go. now the devil, of course, is in the details. whatever the decision, mitt romney wants the law gone, and he's promoting a different sort of vision. governor romney's top policy health care adviser joins me from washington. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, the number-one legal issue as you know better than anybody, is it constitutional to make people buy health insurance? which under the law you would have to do? if you don't -- if you don't have a onjob or have it through medicaid. governor romney supported the mandate in massachusetts. it's law now. what do you think the supreme court should say?
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>> he said i believe this week that the supreme court should make the right decision on this, that the individual mandate on a federal level is outside the bounds of the commerce clause and not something that the federal government should be allowed to. do so he hopes that the supreme court rules it unconstitutional, as do i. and i think that's the way they're going to go. we don't know for sure. we'll see. either way, the obama health care law is problematic and needs to be repealed. governor romney has promised to do so. >> let me make sure i have this right -- you think the law gives too much power to the federal government, but states should have the right to do what they like even if it means requiring team buy insurance? >> i'm not in favor of that approach necessarily. but i think that we do have a constitutional -- the constitution determines what the federal government is allowed to do. and the question before the supreme court is whether the individual mandate is constitutional across the entire federal system, and i think it's not constitutional. governor romney does. some judges at lower levels do. i think the supreme court is going to find the same thing. >> when you say you're not in favor of what's happened at the
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state level, specifically massachusetts, obviously governor romney was in favor of that. he was in favor of a mandate in massachusetts at the state level. look, i spoke to the governor in 2009. take a listen to what he said specifically. >> the republicans have been very interested in what we did here. but i've got no calls from my democratic friends. and really no analysis done at the federal level to say what can we learn from the massachusetts experience that might be helpful in fashioning a federal plan. >> as you know, the president himself now says massachusetts was basically the model for the affordable care act. i mean, you know, i'm not sure exactly if you can parcel out what governor romney was trying to say there, but is this fundamentally a state's right issue versus a federal issue? i think for the average citizen, they'll say, you know, is that really that big a difference? >> no, it's much more than that, sanjay. and you said it there. president obama said basically the same. well, as you said earlier, the devil's in the details. i mean, they have things that they call similar to the
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massachusetts plan. but there are so many huge differences and so many ways that president romney would not want to go in pursuing a federal approach to health care. and ways that are different from between massachusetts and the obama health care laws. as i said earlier, the obama health care law raises taxes including on innovators and medical devices. the obama health care law cuts medicare by $500 billion. there's a whole bunch of differences. >> let me bring up something else. governor romney again has a standard speech line that he's given a few times now, specifically about the affordable care act. and -- and it's about obama care in specific. listen to this -- >> he's attacked the cornerstone of american prosperity. our economic freedom. today, government at all levels consumes over 37% of the total economy or the gdp. and if obama care's allowed to stand, government will reach over -- almost half of the total economy. >> so i'm sure you've had discussions about that particular comment, the
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"washington post," other fact-checkers that we checked with say it's just not true. that is a false statement that 50% number. do you stand by it? and if so, how do you justify it? >> what i will say is we just spent something like over $2.5 trillion in health care every year. about half of that is government. so government is a huge part of our health care spending. and governor romney doesn't want to keep increasing that. so i think that's a smart way of going about it to say we don't want to have more and more government-sponsored health care. and the more you have government paying for health care, as our economy gets bigger but also as our population ages and as health care costs rise, you will have government being a greater and greater part of the overall economy. >> half -- half do you think? >> not i don't what the exact numbers are. you know, i confess to being an economist. i've not looked at the specific numbers. i've seen the back and forth on this issue -- >> your candidate said that number. that's why i'm asking. >> i've seen this bandied back and forth. i've not dug into the cbo and
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oem tables that would determine this. i know that government is a large part of the economy. getting larger under president obama's vision. too large for my preference, and too large for what i think would be good for the american people. >> well, and again, i don't want to belabor the point, and -- you're not the one who said it. i think when your candidate says something like that, you know, it is our job to ask specifically because it sounds frightening to the average citizen who's saying, look, i'm trying to make a reasonable choice here. i appreciate you joining us. hopefully we can talk about it again. there's going to be a lot to talk certainly after the decision is made. and all the way up until november, as well. thank you very much. >> happy to do it any time. >> appreciate it. we're going to be looking at this from all different sides in the weeks and months ahead. of course, you can read more at any time at cnnhealth.com. up next on "sgmd," how far would you go to have children? why this woman is carrying her brother's baby. we'll explain. stay with us. adjusting to city life was hard for me. and becoming a fulltime indoor cat wasn't easy for atti.
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and it's bringing the future forward. for some families, having children is the end all be all. question is, how far would you go to make that dream a reality? i want to introduce you today to one family that's taken things to what some would call extreme measures. now over here, this is tiffany. and she's married to sean. and together they have two kids. tiffany's brother is james, who's over here, and his wife natalie. they have one son. after the birth of their first child, natalie had to have an emergency hysterectomy. she can no longer carry a child. >> october 30, 2010, i was
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brought into the hospital because i was two weeks late. i had to be induced. after he came out, i got to see him. got to be put on my chest. then i basically just started to not feel good. >> the bleeding slowly -- i think over 45 minutes. it started to get worse and worse as time went on. and basically they had to take your uterus out after trying to save it. >> we chose surrogacy as our first option because i still had eggs left. and we were able to have our own child. it would be james and me child. >> after -- james and my child. >> after a couple days in the hospital, my sister felt compelled to tell us that she would be more than happy to carry a baby for us. it just really brought tears to our eyes that my sister was that willing to do this for us. >> we have good news today. we are pregnant. >> yea!
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[ applause ] >> we'll have a baby! >> it's quite a remarkable story. you know, i think a lot of people are interested in what you guys are going through now. natalie and james, let me start with you. we saw the video of you guys finding out that you were finally pregnant. i mean, i know this has been a long road. how did that feel for you? what was that moment like? natalie, let's start with you. >> it was thrilling. it was like -- it was so exciting. we definitely had waited a long time for this to happen. and to finally get that phone call that we were expecting was incredible. >> what about you, james? obviously this is something that you've thought about for a long time. i mean, this is a -- an interesting relationship obviously between families now as a result of all this. what was it like for you when you got the call? >> just like natalie said, it was just incredible. overflowing with emotions. you know, my sister has given you a second chance here to have
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a big family. and -- a bigger family. and it's just unbelievable. can't even, you know, put words to it. >> i just got a few goose bumps as you were saying that. the opportunity, tiffany, to do this for your brother, tiffany and sean. you've both -- i think it's fair to say you've given up a lot to do this. i think that's fair to say. what compelled you to volunteer to be natalie and james' surrogate? tiffany? >> i guess the word opportunity is perfect here. i want to help in any way i can anyone i can. but i have a great uterus, and sean and i were done with natural children. it just kind of made sense that, well i'm done with it, so you can use it, you know? and i -- except for morning sickness, i enjoy being pregnant and feeling life growing. and so it just kind of seemed like a really good opportunity actually to do something good
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for someone i love. it really worked out. >> sean, did you have any reservations about this? i mean, how did you respond or react when this was all first being discussed? >> well, i told her i wanted to definitely think it it. you know, her health was a big thing, but also the morning sickness is something that really was bad with our first son, holland, and our second son, blake. and it got worse with blake. so i could only imagine what it was going to be like with all the hormones and then, you know, it was just -- it's very difficult. yeah, that was the first thing that came up in my mind. >> yeah. it's -- this is an eye-opening process for a lot of people who are seeing this for the first time. tiffany, you sort of talked about this earlier. what has surprised you the most about carrying someone else's child? >> i don't know -- to say this without sounding insensitive, but feeling different when i see the babies on the ultrasound
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shocked me. i thought -- i was afraid of maybe loving them as much as i love my own children or there's something when you see your own children on the ultrasound. and i love them, you know, i love seeing every ultrasound that we see. but i was more interested in watching my brother and natalie's reaction and how -- seeing their love for the babies. it was kind of a relief, but it shocked me, as well, that, oh, i'm a little desensitized. i'm -- i'm a little removed in a good, healthy way, i hope. so that shocked me. >> natalie and tiffany, i understand that you guys also have a bit of news that you want to share, as well. >> we do. we just found out not too long ago that we are not expecting but one two. two babies. >> and that's exciting stuff. i mean, does -- does it make it more exciting, more complicated, natalie? how are you feel being that?
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>> to me, i couldn't have asked for anything more. i'm still kind of beyond word. it's still sort of sinking in. and the reality that, you know, we're going to be -- we're going to have a 2-year-old and two newborns. it's pretty incredible. it's going to be fun. a little crazy ride. >> we're going to continue to follow the story in the weeks and months ahead right here on "sgmd." next, olympic gymnast dominique moceanu is here with a shocking secret. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ]
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as the youngest member of the 1990s olympic gymnastic team, dominique moceanu fulfi fulfilled a dream of winning gold. she opens up the abuse she suffered while training for the olympics and the surprising discovery of a secret sister. olympic gymnast dominique moceanu hasn't lost the focus and the smile she's known for as a member of the magnificent seven in atlanta. but behind that smile, she's hidden a lot of pain. while she loved the sport, moceanu says her coaches, marta and bella karolyi made her life
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miserable. severely restricting her eating, forcing her to hide sports-related injuries, and constantly chipping away at her self-esteem. >> name-calling like piggy and fat. the karolyis, for example, hit me in karolyis hit me a lot of emotional places and used my father as a medium of abuse. >> reporter: she says that the coaches would call her father about her practice, and he would punish her by hitting her. >> i was silenced by not wanting to say anything. >> and the karolyis would not comment but they said we have known dominique since she was a young gymnast and and we wish the best for her life. she went to court against her romanian parents to reclaim her money. and her sister says she
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witnessed the abuse, but she reconciled with her father before he died of cancer. >> i was able to take the experiences in my life were difficult and adversity to use et for a positive change. >> reporter: she retired from j gymnastics in 2006. >> welcome to the show. it is nice to meet you in person, and what is it like to hear that story recount ed? >> well, it brings back a lot of emotions, and that is what the memoir has done is to allow me to adjust and take it all in, because it has taken me every bit of the seven years to digest everything that has happened in my life and i'm talking about so openly. i never thought i'd be able to sit here without being terrified about talking about these things, because so much of my life i spent in fear, and especially my childhood. >> you wrote the book in part because you wanted to tell the story and people say, she overcame a lot and won olympic
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gold, but it was under a lot of tough circumstances and what would you tell people like that who want to get through these things themselves? >> well, first of all i loved gymnastics and that is why i started it, because i loved the sport. i wanted to bring to light a pattern that we are light years behind defining the abuse, and the abuse in our sport in general. coaches coaches at the elite level take advantage of that, and there are great coaches out there, but i believe i want to use my voice to spark a change. >> and the karolyis didn't have much to say, but they wish dominique the best. j we >> well, if if you look closely, they never deny the treatment. that speaks best. >> and i think that the story serves as inspiration in their own lives to overcome. it is a real pleasure for me to meet you, dominique. and your family and your husband
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who is also a gymnast. thank you much. from the balance beam to the basketball court, we are going to "dunk the junk." stay with us. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. fiber one. uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! [ jack ] yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] half a day's worth of fiber. fiber one.
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all right. we're all too familiar with the numbers. one in three kids is either overweight or obese, and i have said it hundreds of times, but we are about solutions on this program. so when i discovered kevin strong who is a pediatrician who launched "dunk the junk" using the things that he loved as a
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kid, basketball and hip-hop music to help kids learn how to eat healthy, i decided to see for myself. ♪ dunk the junk ♪ throw away the cane, that's what's up ♪ in my community practice i was having kids come in that were 3 years old and they were morbidly obese, and they didn't know what was happening to their bodies. i felt not just their self-esteem, but the internal damage happen ing ing to the bo. so i felt appropriately positioned to do something about it. >> guys, wish me look luck. >> i have a creative side and i wanted to create a cool way to engage kids and excite them so it is their decision to eat healthy. >> so dunk the junk? >> yes. >> you ever think of fighting childhood obesity to fight like this, this is what it takes sometimes. ♪ you are just arrogant, veggies are a lifetime ♪
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♪ eat them all of the way ♪ if you don't want to be fat ♪ throw the junk away >> i want them to use graffiti art in a positive way. >> how big of a deal is an event like this for you? >> being a guy who suffers from diabetes i know the importance of staying healthy. it is the start of something good that parents can particularly take home to teach themselves and their children. >> we are trying to get the sugar aspect out of their diet as well, you know, processed foods and stuff like that. >> i want to introduce killer mike. >> what i have to do is to drink more water, eat less sugar and exercise more. >> what does it mean to rap about healthy food and vegetables? >> well, 20 years ago when i was a kid, rappers rapped about being unhealthy and they are the reason we drank beer and also the reason that we ate fat food, so rap can convey that message. >> killer mike's rap and the
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introduction of why it is important to eat happy shows the kids that the hip-hop community is okay with eating healthy, and they got an opportunity to rap about healthy, and they had to think about what is healthy, and how do i get across to my peers that it is okay to eat healthy. ♪ throw away the candy ♪ that's what's up well, guys, the sad truth, just in time for father's day, on average women live five years longer than us men. why? well, lots of reasons, but partly because men are four times less likely to go to to doctor. and many of the top ten causes of death are preventable if detected early. so guys, don't ignore the aches and pains and most importantly get an annual physical and usually takes an hour of your time and it could have a huge payoff. i personally like to schedule my physical the week of my birthday so i don't forget. you should, too. and make an appointment c
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