skeptical. >> it is ridiculous. >> how are the kovs beicovers b pulled up? >> it makes sense. >> it does? >> and one person posted, yeah, i can see myself getting up in the middle of the night to go to the batroom and come back to my bed made. you can take it out of to automatic sensor mode, and put it on manual. somebody has already put the smart bed to music. it is down right majestic. but also a little creepy to arise from slumber and see your bedding slither. jeanne moos, cnn. >> i am afraid this thing is going to jump out at me. >> reporter: new york. thanks for watching. i'm randi kaye. state of the union with candy crowley starts right now. 142 days until voters decide who gets the next four years. today, 2013 through 2017 -- >> i ask you the stand with me

for a second term as president. >> what would obama phase two look like with senior white house adviser david plouffe. and then -- >> he has been president for 3 1/2 years, and talk is cheap. >> sizing up mitt romney with former republican presidential hopeful rick santorum. plus, days away from a supreme court decision which could gut the health care law. is there a plan b? doctor and senator john barrasso and congressman chris van hollen join us. and the cnn chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and matt bayh will join us. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." >> there was a showdown this week with mitt romney and president obama giving speeches in ohio. an economic growth amid tightening polls, white house

advisers said that the president would use the speech to reframe his economic argument. he tied mitt romney tightly to george w. bush and outlined his goals. >> that is my vision for america. education, energy, innovation, infrastructure. >> flashback, almost four years ago to the day, candidate barack obama. >> it is time for a competitiveness agenda built around education and energy and innovation and infrastructure. >> joining me now is white house senior adviser david plouffe. david, thank you for being here. let me start with the first big question which is, is the fact that the president is saying virtually the same thing that he said four years ago when he was campaigning a recognition that he is has not been able to achieve his goals? >> no, the president laid out this week a very important speech in ohio about the choices facing the country about the right things to do to grow the economy and strengthen the middle-class and we have a lot

more work the do. we have to rebuild -- >> is that the -- is that the economic message? we have a lot more work to do? >> well, no, candy. the point is what direction is the country going the take? i think that we would all admit that the economy has to stre strengthen and we have to e crate -- create more jobs and what is the best way to do it? let's balance the deficit, and give everybody a fair shot. and as we have the ability to invest in new energy future and continue to lead the world in innovation, but the important thing is that there is a choice here. governor romney and the allies in congress want to go back to the same policies that created the recession, and we know that won't work. and so really the american people have to decide which direction they want to go. >> so, those are goals. >> yes. >> that he is setting out, but it is not a plan. what does the next four years look like? what is the big idea that people are going to vote on in november? >> well, it is a plan. it is about what is the right way to get $4 trillion in deficit reduction. >> but you have had four years to do that -- >> wefirst, we have ak

come plished a lot. education reform, and health care reform and cut the taxes for the average middle-class income tkocome $ 3,600 and we n continue to do that and we need to double down on the clean energy future and make sure that we have a education system to produce the workers and the innovators and entrepreneurs that we need. >> i take it that there is no big idea that is different from what you are doing now, and it is stay the course, and this is a stay the course message. >> these are all big ideas and the direction that the country needs to go. >> and this is the big yideas that he has tried to do -- >> well, we have accomplished some of them and some of them we still have work. >> and what have you been able to accomplish in the next four years that you have not been able to do to this point. >> well, some of these are predating the resession. and this is is going to take a long time. >> and how do you do that? i guess people say, what is the plan here? well, how you do it is to focus

on education for instance. we have engaged in a lot of reforms and a lot of republican support. we need to make college costs come down. and energy, we should come together in a bipartisan way and doubling down on a clean energy future as we make progress and continue the lead the world in natural gas -- >> but you haven't been able to do that so the question is what is different in the next -- >> well, that is not right, candy. this president has led resurgence in the clean energy future, education reforms, health care reform, cut the taxes for the middle-class and cut taxes for small business, and we got a lot more done, and it is amazing that there was a story that republicans in congress basically said that we are going to take the rest of the year off and not do anything to help the economy, because we want to help mitt romney and it is remarkable to see at a time of great need in the economy where we can make a huge difference and the president's job proposals and every independent economists say they would create a million jobs and the congressmen are sitting on their hands, and we need to get a lot more done, and congress is sitting on their hands.

and by the way john boehner -- >> well, there is nothing that lo looks in the cards to me as though somehow there is going to be a big change in the mix of congress, and in fact, a republican senate, and why do you believe that what the president has been proposing since last september has a better chance in february and why some need to step back and say, look, here's plan b and let's go with this in the second term. >> well, start with mitt romney's plan a. the american people have to make a choice. he will rubber stamp the congressional republican agenda to take us back to the policies of the great recession, and shortchange our future, and by the way, we have gotten a lot done with congress. we have cut taxes and done good things for the entrepreneurs like patent reform and doing good work here, but the president said that the american people need to break the stalemate, and if we can win the election in the tough economy, that sends a message and you are seeing a potential compromise, and more republicans in the senate talking about, well sh,

maybe open to higher revenues through tax reform. well, i do think that how we reduce the deficit -- listen, you have republicans and democrats in both parties in both chambers now, and more democrats saying they are open to the entitlement reform we need to do and more republicans open to more revenue, so we have a great deal of confidence and the american people will render a verdict on the direction and we have a great deal of confidence they will choose the president's direction and make progress building on what we have already done. >> let me ask you about the immigration decision made friday and read you something from george washington university law professor jonathan turley who said that the president is using executive power to do things that congress has refused to do, and that does fit a disturbing pattern of expansion of executive power under president obama in many ways, he has fu fulfilled the dream of an imperial presidency that richard nixon strived for. this is a president who is now functioning as a super legislator, and why did you, a, wait this long to do this, and

b, isn't the appropriate place to make these decisions congress which passes the laws, immigration law in particular? >> well, first, this is a decision that the department of homeland security made. this is so that they have the discretion in enforcement so that we focus on criminals and those that cause or could endanger our communities and that is where the focus of the immigration enforcement efforts need to be. these kids who want to serve in the military and going to college and working in the businesses, they now can apply and this is not a permanent fix by the way. >> but you went around congress is the point. i understand the policy, and the reasons for it. >> well, we would be happy to sign the dream act tomorrow. >> but there are three branches of government, and you know how this works. >> well, it is fully within our able, and again, this is an enforcement decision, and this is not some permanent, and this is not amnesty, and this is not sit citizenship, but giving these kids who are in our

universities and staffing our labs and working in the military to stay. and we agree for congress to pass the dream act and sadly governor romney has said he will veto the dream act. if you are looking for progress, he will veto it. >> as it currently stands and he is looking at a different one that marco rubio is looking at. lit let me move you on, and as some of the friends said, this is a political move that you all wanted to infuse some enthusiasm into the latino voting base. >> this is not a political move and builds on a lot of steps -- >> well, you could have done it the year before or the year before that, an executive decision. >> we have been trying to get the dream act done and passing immigration reform, and this builds on a series of steps that the department of homeland security has already done, and this gives the law enforcement personnel more discretion to focus where they need to focus which is criminals and the

deportation of criminals is by the way up 80%. >> you cannot say it is not done with some political consideration. >> it was not, candy. >> five months before the election? >> well, listen, who knows how the politics will turn out, but this decision was the right decision -- >> and how can you say that? >> well, le see. i have ceased making predictions on things, and we will see how they turn out. >> let me ask you questions on other issues, are you confident right now that no one in the white house leaked any information about the so-called kill list, the cyber space attack on iranian nuclear facilities or the presence of an al qaeda mole. >> yeah. well, listen, i won't speak specifically about classified information and i think that the author of that book has said that, you know, any of this information didn't come from the white house. there is going to be an investigation. >> do you know that for sure? >> well, there is going to be two united states attorneys who have been appointed by the

attorney general and will look at this thoroughly, as they should. and the president said he has zero tolerance for any leaks in this area, and he has to have the ability to make sure it is secure and make the decision, and this investigation will be thorough and people will be held accountable if they did something wrong. >> david plouffe, thank you for dropping by. happy father's day. >> thank you, candy. >> rick santorum seems to have warmed up to mitt romney. >> the concern i had, and i was obvious and frank about it was that governor romney would track to the middle. >> but this immigration reform issue might complicate things.

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>> well, marco rubio said it best that we have to find a solution to kids who came here through no fault of their own, but at the same time people are looking for a long -term solution, and not something temporary through a executive order. >> a big tonal difference here between the two of you, and are you happy with his answer? >> well, let me say this, that the big concern and what governor romney was addressing more of the substance than he was the actions of the president. >> the process. >> yeah, the process, and to me, the most outrageous thing is the process he did it. the president said i will selectively enforce the law in this country. >> i want to get back the mitt romney, but the laws are always selectively enforced. there are lots of time when the police overlook a violation of the law because they are looking to do something, something else. immigration has a huge, you know, number of things on its plate, so why is this any

different? >> well, there is a difference of somebody who is out there on the street making a call as to whether to charge someone with a crime or not than having a policy at the top saying that we are going to carte blanche order people not to enforce the law. >> back to mr. romney, do you wish he hads f forceful on that note? >> he is trying to walk a line. >> and saying that -- >> well leshgs is trying to walk a line. and i understand that. my father is a immigrant to this country and i'm pro immigration, and i don't like the rhetoric and the tone i hear from some on our side with respect to immigrants and even the issue of illegal immigration. having said that, it is illegal. >> what line is mitt romney walking? >>is trying to walk a line to sound like he is not hostile to the latinos. >> swing voters. >> and very important states. but at the same time, i think that you need to, you need to hammer the president on this now habitual abuse of power saying that he is not going to defend

the defense of marriage act and not even going to go to the supreme court to try to stand up for the law that, you know, i'm charged as the chief executive to do. so you are seeing a pattern where the president has said, i will pick and choose what laws to enforce and what laws i'm going to stand up and fight for in court. that is not the job of the president. >> now, i think that people would say to you that george bush and other presidents used signing ceremonies to sometimes say i object to the law -- >> and he did it, but he enforced the law. there is a difference of saying i don't like the law and i wish that the law were different, but i'm the president and my job is to faithfully execute, and he is not faithfully executing. >> and let me turn you to the senate race randomly in utah where senator hatch is running against ann lilly quienquist wha tea party support, and here is orrin hatch that you served with

him in the senate and didn't raise any objections to him at the time, and why would you sort of walk into this race and side with someone trying to unseat a sitting republican and sort of create quote trouble in the race. >> well, i don't know -- it is a primary. you know, it is not trouble. i mean, it is not orrin hatch's seat, and not my seat when i was in the united states senate and you don't own it, and your name is not inscribed on that seat. you know, the people of utah just like the people of every other state have the opportunity and every other time to assess who is the right person at the time. and orrin has served this country well. he is a good man. i have nothing personally against orrin at all. >> but he has compromised too much as far as you are concerned about the conservative principles. >> well, we need a different kind of actor in washington, d.c. we have reached the point where we need people to say no and have the backbone to say i am not going to do less of a bad thing anymore. we are going to start doing good things instead of compromising doing less bad. >> h and the legislative process

we saw play out in indiana dick lugar and he had conservative principles and willing to work with other side -- >> hold on. what does that mean, willing to work with the other side, and this is the key of the tea party folks and the conservatives in general have had enough of. and willing to work with the other side means doing what the other side wants, but doing it slower instead of doing what is necessary for the country which is scaling back government and instead of growing it less fast, we want it smaller, and we are willing to compromise on how we do it, but the idea that we need people to slow down the eventual growth and that is the answer is wrong. we need people who say that is the wrong direction, and we need a fundamentally new way of looking at things in washington. and i think that while orrin did good in slowing down bad, he has never been able to really turn

it back the other way, and that is not in his constitution in my mind. >> no room for moderates. and jeb bush complained this week saying, look, i don't think that there is any room for my father or ronald reagan. >> what is moderate mean? >> that perhaps you would reach across the aisle and say, i get where you are coming from, and this is -- >> you see, moderate in this town and moderate means doing more government, and we are going to grow government, but grow itless. we need to stop that. >> let me ask you two quick questions before we leave, and the first is, is there any position in a romney administration that you would like? is attorney general? i know you have been asked the veep question, but as you look forward in your life, can you see yourself serving in a romney administration? >> i want to help mitt romney get elected president, and i eeld 'll be happy to help and advise him if he wants my advice as president, but my objective right now is to servef my family and provide for them. i have two kids in college -- >> flat no. >> yeah, it is pretty much a

flat no. it is not because i don't want to help governor romney. i don't want to be part of being him having a successful presidency, but it is just for me, a maert of my priorities and time of being a husband and father, and i sort of have to take care of them. >> finally, a lot of of things were said in this campaign that have been played back to them, and you know things that you have said about governor romney and others in the race. >> he doesn't have the convictions, the authenticity nor the record that is necessary to twhin -- to win this election. >> we might as well stay with what we have rather than the etch a sketch candidate of the future. >> we already have someone in office who is not being truthful with the american public on a variety of dif trent things. >> when you talk about this race to the your children and grandchildren and you say, i went too far here and i wish i had not done that? >> well, not really.

a couple of comments, if you will, where i, you know, i have said publicly already when i called the president a snob, and my wife really gave it to me that day. and you know, you get carried away and maybe say things that you wouldn't -- but the point i was making i don't back away from, the point that we need to focus more on people who don't go to college and make sure they have career opportunities, too, and that college is not the only answer, but sometimes the rhetoric might have gone over the line. >> and the authenticity and compared him to president obama. >> well, i have no problem questioning authenticity, and those are all things that i thought were legitimate differences between us as candidates, and the same thing with president obama. i mean, there are differences between us. i don't back away from any of those things, but at the same time, clearly the difference between president obama and mitt romney is a chasm, and i have a great degree of comfort supporting governor romney as the choice between the two. >> former presidential candidate

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supreme court is whether forcing every american to buy insurance is constitutional, and if not, whether to strike down the entire law which contains health care reforms or just throw out the mandate. a group representing the health care insurance industry has warned ominously that severing the individual mandate from market reforms could have a negative impact on individuals and families. just suppose for a moment that the court strikes down the mandate, then what? republicans john barrasso and democratic leader john van holland next. f! meineke's personal pricing on brakes.

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senator and dr. john barrasso of wyoming and democratic congressman chris van hollen of maryland, and thank you both for being here especially on father's day. i want to put up on the screen for viewers what is currently in effect for health care. children up to the age of 26 may stay on their parents' insurance. children with pre-existing conditions and some adults have to have a coverage. it bans insurance companies from dropping sick people from their rolls, and it eliminates lifetime limits on coverage for the critically ill, and it has drug rebates in it. what happens to those particular very popular elements if the supreme court should say, you can't have mandates, you can't force people to buy health insurance, what happens? >> well, let's take for example the current prohibition on denying kids who have pre-existing condition like asthma or diabetes, health care. if the supreme court were to knock down the individual

mandate, that whole piece is in jeopardy just like some of the other pieces. now, we don't know exactly what the scope of the supreme court decision will be or of course what it will be, but the reality is that those very important protections are at risk if the supreme court knocks it down. and of course, the irony here is that people like mitt romney knew that, which is why romney care in massachusetts requires everybody being in the pool, because then you pool the risks and then you don't have discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions whether they are kids or adults with cancer or other diseases. that is is the whole idea of getting everybody into the pool. >> and also the idea is that it is hard to afford to have these sorts of provisions if you don't have healthy people in the pool. if all you are insuring is sick people, you can't afford to continually to not have lifetime caps and that kind of thing. senator, the question here is certainly we can say that the obama administration frontloaded

the great things about this, at least as far as patients are concerned, but what do republicans propose to do if the mandate is dropped and insurance companies say, sure, we will keep it, but it will cost you double or triple or what happens? >> well, first of all, candy, i believe that this is unconstitutional and i believe there is a stinging rebuke of this president's centerpiece legislation when the supreme court rules later this month, and they should rule this is unconstitutional and if not, the republicans want to repeal everything that is left standing, but you raise the interesting point, because several times you said affordable. the whole goal of health care reform was to get patients to get the care they need from a doctor they choose at lower costs. this health care law did nothing to deal with the fundamental problem which is the cost of care. >> sure, but now we have people that are getting benefits that i think that you would sign on to. that you don't throw sick people

off of health insurance, that even if you have a pre-existing condition, you should be provided some sort of health insurance, so we have these sets of rules already in place, and the supreme court decision, if it throws tout m s out the mand jeopardizeslar provisions, and doesn't it roll back on the republicans who have fought so hard to throw it out. >> well, the supreme court may rule that the mandate falls or the supreme court may rule that the whole health care law fals.s >> then what have you got? >> you won't see coming from the republicans a 2700-page bill that is james madison said -- >> what you will see? >> a step by step common sense solutions, but you won't see -- >> when? >> you won't see a law so voluminous that it cannot be read or so incoherent that it cannot be understood, and -- >> when this is. >> we will have people able to buy across state lines -- >> and we are looking at a

possible of it thrown out. >> well, if you go to the town hall meeting in wyoming, candy, and ask for a show of hands you ask under this health care law, are you paying higher and lower available and lower care, and that is why the care is so unpopular today. >> i want to get to you to answer what comes after this -- >> well, there is no answer. the republicans want to repeal it. in the house they said they will get to work with the replacement. well, we haven't seen any replacement because while they say they want to make sure that the kids are not deny care because of pre-existing conditions, and the way you do that is to get everybody in the pool. everybody understands that. with respect to the cost of the health care, john knows very well, that the main provisions to bring down those costs and put people in the exchanges don't even kick in until 2014. at that time the congressional budget office, our nonpartisan

referee has said for a given set of benefits the costs in the individual market could go down by as much as 20%, so those parts of the law have not even gone into effect yet. >> the painful parts have not gone into effect yet, the taxes and that kind of thing. >> well, the parts that also will allow millions of americans who were uninsured or underinsured to get affordable health care. >> let me ask you as i asked the sen or the. let's say that the mandate goes out, and what is plan b for democrat democrats? >> well, the reality is that this was our plan. i mean, this is the plan that the president put together -- >> you don't have a contingency plan. >> well, the republicans were for this plan before they were against this plan and before president obama was for this plan and modeled after mitt romney. and look, this plan allows for kids with pre-existing conditions to be covered and kids up to age 26 to be on their parents' plans, and if they

strike that down, there is no easy answer which is why the republicans from newt gingrich to mitt romney were in favor of the approach. this is the alternative to medicare for all. and this the republican idea. >> what i am hearing from the two of you in response to direct questions is neither the democrats nor the republicans have a contingency plan for if the supreme court strikes down really what is the funding part of this health care law. >> well, it is an approach to let people buy across state lines and deal with the junk lawsuits that drive up the health care because of the unnecessary testing that is being done. >> when? when do krou d that? are you ready for it? are you ready to throw it on the floor? >> well, the court of public opinion is going to be there the next day and this is part of the campaign debates going into the election -- >> after the election though. >> big part of it. and you continue to use and chris talks about medicare for all, no it is medicaid for all which is the program that right now half of the doctors in the country won't see people on medicaid, because the reimbursement is so low, but

that is the answer to the health care law, and throw 17 million people on medicaid which is why 26 states have sued the federal government saying don't make us do this, we can't afford it. it takes money away from the education and a lot of things. >> well, candy -- >> in the minute that i have left, i need to know if there is any thought inside of the democratic party of saying, whoa, we have to figure out a way to save at least these benefits already in existence? have you talked to the white house? is there a plan b? >> we don't know what the supreme court is going to do -- >> well, i know, but -- >> here is the plan, candy. the republicans are against it and they have said that if the court strikes down part of it they want to repeal the remainder. the part of what the republicans will propose is what we saw between 2000 and 2006 and the premiums from the major insurance companies doubled and the status quo and unacceptable and the american people rejected it. they want to go back to the status quo. we have the plan. >> and the president promised if you pass this health care insurance rates would drop

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well, this is one way to spend father's day. mitt romney, father of five boys is in brunswick, ohio, and part of a six-day five-day bus tour making stops in ohio like we all know is the state this year getting all of the attention. he is with congressman, sorry, senator rob portman and often thought to be on the top of the list for number two's for mitt romney. rainy day. happy father's day. all of those folks out there working. and to you, as well. matt, thank you for joining us this morning. new york time's magazine reporter, and jessica -- i

started to say jessica simpson and jessica yellin -- >> i am flattered. i like it. >> correspondent, thank you. my brain was someplace else. okay. can we start with the who won the week? i i'm confused about this week. they both gave the dualing ohio political speeches and everybody panned both of them. i thought, well, this is loser week for both. >> i think that president obama had a more worse week if you will. >> worse. >> worser, up until thursday night of the immigration announcement, because he set the expectations for thursday speech, and he said i am going to frame my message and on that thursday economic speech, and then he gave this meandering speech where this is a man known for sharp messages and it just didn't cut through. it was a loss for him. and then the immigration story really turned things and i know we will get to that, so i will put it on pause, and maybe a

different take, but i thought that the speech for the president was not the finest moment. >> allot of people felt that way, but mitt romney also got some flack, because basically what i took away from both of the speeches was, please don't elect the other guy. >> that is it, candy. right now you want a pretty decent framing up, and one side is going to say too much government has throttled free enterprise and the other is going to say it is run amok. >> it is a classic republican/democratic argument. >> and most american voters will tell you and if they don't tell you, believe that both institutions, public and private have basically filled and ill served the society and failed to keep pace with change, and barack obama understood that and embodied that in 2008 and to this point, neither kacandidate seems to be, you know, seems to be on that more future-oriented plane. >> neither candidate is also saying, look, we could be in for a long slog, and this is, you

know, a re-election or election of this guy might not change that. >> right. one of the things that earlier in the week, there was some discussion certainly at cnn, i know and elsewhere certainly, but what would either one of these guys there's a couple rea here. presidents can't change the economy. i think it was taft or somebody who said everybody thinks presidents can make the grass greener and the sky bluer, and it just doesn't happen. there's that. and b, neither one of them seems to be saying my plan to make the middle class stronger is the following. it's all just these kind of basic overarching issues. >> yeah. i think it becomes quite difficult because i think mitt romney's running a classic referendum campaign. he doesn't want to get boxed in between his base and independent voters. he wants this to be all about as the president, are you better off than you were four years ago. the president's found a lot of what he wants to do is politically unpalatable in the first four years. look at the budget in terms of strucking a grand bargain, dealing with his base and republican voters, taxes.

i think they like all first-term presidents tell themselves that in a second term it will be much easier to do all that kind of stuff. >> in fact, what makes you think you can pass in february what you haven't been able to pass since last september. he said, well, the republicans are showing signs of coming around, and they may go for some tax increases. >> well, the president at a fundraiser last week, i think it was -- the time moefr so morph it was last week, he said the fever will break. he police chiefs if he's elected the republican -- >> the light will go on. >> the republican fever will break because they won't be fighting to keep him a one-term president anymore, to paraphrase what mitch mcconnell said. and then he'll have a chance to work with them, and maybe bipartisanship at last will happen. >> the problem is you get about eight months to solidify your legacy before the midterms kick in. past the midterms you're a lame duck and nobody -- >> pays attention to you. >> this is shangra la, the idea that over the horizon is the moment are you can do tough

things and pay the price and people will follow you to the abyss. >> and the debt ceiling to deal with and the fiscal cliff -- >> the social security, taxes, all that kind of stuff. >> there's no easy time to make tough decisions. never materializes. >> right. >> like a candidate. >> that's right. let me show you a gallup poll recently. it was asking folks who do you blame a great deal or a moderate amount for the economy? 52% said barack obama. 68% said george w. bush. and i want to play you something that newt gingrich had to say when he was talking at the faith and freedom conference in washington. >> campaigned on the slogan, yes, we can. this fall, joining the slogan why we couldn't. >> i think actually newt gingrich who has a way of framing things pretty accurately is, in fact, on to something

with the obama re-elect campaign, and that is i don't think they're trying to blame george bush. i think they're blaming mitt romney by osmosis, right? it's, well, if you want to go back to george bush, then go ahead and vote for mitt romney. aren't they trying to use those figures in some way, shape, or form? there's such a lingering blame that has s placed on him by most americans. >> they are. and i have to believe that that is a starting point in the debate for them. they have to know that that's not -- that's not a sum political winner in summary. in other words, you can't -- it's not -- it may not be fair, it may be that the last ten years of governance led to what obama inherited and that he's had to deal with a difficult set of circumstances. it's not that the american people blame him for the economic mess, but you are the president, you've been the president for three-plus years, you're not going to be able to win a re-election campaign, i think, based on the notion that you didn't create the mess and then can't be held accountable. >> you've got about 15 seconds here.

52% do blame president obama somewhat or a lot. that can't be good news at re-election. >> nay knthey know that, but th feel that they can make a case that the other guy is worse. that's what they're doing with this. george bush equivalents and trying to tie mitt romney to republicans in congress. >> jessica, matt, thank you, come back again. >> any time. thanks. next, how a 40-year-old white house scandal changed our lexicon. recently, students from 31 countries took part in a science test. the top academic performers surprised some people.

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finally, today is the 40th anniversary of the arrest of five burglars for breaking into the headquarters of the democratic national committee. sound familiar? well, try this -- it is the 40th anniversary of watergate. that day watergate of the name of a building complex housing the dnc offices. in the history books, it's the name of a scandal that brought down richard nixon. so great was the impact that the oxford english dictionary devotes considerable space to the word including the modern use of just the suffix, gate. the continued success of -gate shows how the english speakers have welcomed the means to describe any sort of scandalous event with a snappy suffix.

over the decades, there's been travel-gate, billy-gate, monica-gate, and -- >> obviously somebody got access to my account they sent a picture that makes fun of the name wiener. i get it, touche. >> wiener-gait. >> today i'm announcing my rangz from congress. >> pervert. >> there's been chinagate, koreagate, naftagate, and -- >> for one, any of us would be angry, two, that the cambridge police acted stupidly. >> henry lewis gates -gate, the one about the harborvieward profess professor, and cop and resident to stepped around it. beers and an awkward photo op closed the books on that. an initial search turns up more than 120 gates, contragate, memo great, nannygate. ranging beyond the confines of politics. there's