>> reporter: when an audience member says he was inspired by dave to wear the same socks, letterman gave him three pairs. no one showed more interest than regis philbin. >> the man wears knee socks all the way up to his knee. $250 a pair and i got myself a pair of them, too. check it out, baby. >> reporter: when letterman and baldwin finally dropped, letter junk. when the credits rolled, it should have read worldwide no pants. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> they were pretty hairy. i'm carol costello. thanks for joining me today. cnn "newsroom" continues right now with ashleigh banfield in for kyra phillips. >> good morning.

here we go. it's the first full day of jury deliberations in the jerry sandusky day. i do mean full. 48 counts that they are considering. and that is not counting the bombshell claim from one of sandusky's own sons. and in philadelphia, the 13th day of deliberations in the 13th week of a sex abuse trial of two people belonging to the catholic church. priests, one an alleged monster, the other an alleged enabler. and we are also in orlando where hispanic voters are about to hear from marco rubio and then later president obama. you're going to hear from them, too, right here in the cnn "newsroom." let's begin this hour with the upside of the downgrade. yes, you heard it. new york markets aren't crying over it too badly in the world's bank and they are suffering. the dow is up after one blistering day when the dow

dropped about 250 points. overseas it's a bit of a different story, though. big selloffs in europe, selloffs in asia. down, down, down. look at all of those arrows. here's the reason why. after the "closing bell" yesterday, the credit rating agency called moody's decided that 15 of the top banks, banks that decide whether you or i are good risks for loans, they may not be good risks themselves. in lowering their ratings, mod dee's cited this, significant exposure to the volatility and the risk of outside losses inherent to market activities. pretty clear, isn't it? alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange to make it even clearer. here's the question right off the bat. i get up real early in the morning. we were predicting that things might not go so well this morning and that's just not the case. >> well, a lot of what you're seeing -- the bounce back is

happening because the bargain hunters are back. the dow fell 250 points. nasdaq down more than 2%. when that happens, a lot of the investors come out of the woodwork and buy these cheap stocks. don't let the board fool you. you are seeing green arrows today but there's a world of worry because they leave a big question. just how much are these big banks exposed to the european debt crisis and slowing economies around the world? this is the latest mood by mod dee's. it's been pretty busy. it's been downgrading banks across europe and it shows the worries are widespread and the big fear at this point is that the banks could be so worried about losses that they would stop lending to each other and to businesses which could cause another global credit crunch. that, of course, is the worst case scenario.

ashleigh? >> there's still a lot of questions for the average guy, like me, who doesn't know everything in my 401(k) at a glance. i'd have to look it up. but what about interest rates and stuff like that? things that the consumer needs to know about. how is all of this affected? >> if you're the customer, it's not going to change your day to day banking but it makes it more expensive for these banks to do business themselves. it's more expensive for them to operate because it raises their borrowing costs. so we could see these higher costs pass on to us. banks are already struggling with less revenue after all of this reform on wall street. they've been trying to make up with a lot of fees, as we know. less than half of those noninterest checking accounts are free these days. that's compared to 65% two years ago. so it wouldn't be so surprising if they find a way to make more fees if their businesses are hurt by the downgrades. there's a chance that the banks will be receipt sent to loan more money. even now they are pretty it's hard to get a loan these days

but this could make it worse. >> you hear the, you don't qualify like we -- >> yes. it's tough. >> do they ever. thanks for being with us. have a good weekend, my friend. >> thank you. let me take you to bellefonte, pennsylvania. wow. a dozen residents have a lot to think about. we know that there is something that they are not thinking about. the jury in the child rape trial of former penn state assistant coach and child advocate, jerry sandusky. jurors got this case yesterday so they have been deliberating since yesterday. late into the night, too. as you've probably heard, it was not long after ward that they disappeared into the jury room and the doors shut and then one of jerry sandusky's adopted children came forward and said that he was also abused at the

hands of jerry sandusky. this is such a bombshell and it is so overwhelming and a lot of people want to know why now would this story come out? why not before those jurors went into that deliberation room where this really could have made a difference in what they are trying to decide. >> reporter: well, what a development. you're not kidding. and this information coming in the form of a statement from matt sandusky, saying that he had been accused by his father. the reason we're answer hearing about this now is because now we have learned that matt sandusky was to be a part of the prosecution's rebuttal case. evidently, according to sandusky, matt sandusky's lawyers, he only came forward to them since the trial began and then they arranged a meeting between matt sandusky and prosecutors. evidently, prosecutors were planning to bring him on as a rebuttal witness if jerry sandusky had taken the stand.

we saw matt sandusky come into court that day but we didn't know at the time that prosecutors had him in their back pocket to bring forward. but because sandusky didn't take the stand, they weren't able to use matt sandusky's newfound allegations. >> so, susan, i know this is probably way too early to ask given that the announcement of this alleged abuse came yesterday. but does anybody have any idea as to whether prosecutors are harnessing this, making a decision on what to do about it, considering a separate indictment, separate from the trial that we're in right now? >> well, certainly one reason why this is surprising is because in public statements matt sandusky had been supportive openly of his father but he did testify before the grand jury and at the time the defense attorney for jerry sandusky said he wasn't worried about what matt sandusky had to say. now apparently he may have to. certainly when anyone comes forward with allegations, they are investigated. will this lead to additional

charges against jerry sandusky? it's too soon to tell. >> well, i tell you what, they have a lot to do with 48 counts to look over and they have to mark their forms on each one of those counts, whether it's guilty or not guilty. who knows if we'll get something today. the trial sure went fast. susan candiotti, thank you very much. later on on cnn, we're going to go to sara ganim. we will talk billion the steps in this case. not to fear, you you can watch cnn anywhere you go. go to cnn.com/tv and find out how to get us on your mobile phone. connected all day long, cnn.

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sulted that some of the data be sensored from this paper but then later reversed its warning. if it fell into the wrong hands, it could certainly turn into a deadly biological weapon. elizabeth cohen jins us live from atlanta. so what is going on here and how is this going to end up? are we going to get the information? is this all academic? what is the story? >> it's out there. it's now in the journal of science, which is a widely disseminated journal. you and i and everyone else can go online and basically read how you can make a super deadly version of the bird flu virus. i mean, it's right there. and that obviously has a lot of people concerned because then it could possibly fall into the wrong hands. >> it's not as though other dangerous information isn't already out there on the web. you theoretically could build your own nuclear bomb at this point. but how did this one get out there and wasn't there any

concern about sensoring before it got out? >> yes. there was some people out there who said, a, don't publish it at all and other people who said, b, leave out some of the vital parts of it. but they decided, go ahead and do the whole thing. there were kind of two reasons behind that. there were several but who were the big ones. one, you want legitimate scientists to see this information because you want good scientists around the world to be on the lookout for this bug and to know what they are looking for. two, you want good scientists to develop a vaccine so if this does happen we'll have a vaccine ready to fight it. the other big reason is, ashleigh, by the time this became an issue, it was out there. hundreds of people have already seen it. i was talking to a bioethicist about this. the cat was out of the bag. >> so how easy is this action? we all know it's tricky to get

your hands on uranium. but what about bird flu? is it something that a science fair student could actually pull off or is it tricky? >> our captain said, don't worry about some crazy high school student doing this. it's too difficult. it takes specialized knowledge. even one lone smart terrorist couldn't do this. you need a very sophisticated lab. now could a rogue nation do this? a nation with big, nice fancy labs? it's not a matter of weeks or months, it really would likely take years to use this information to make this terrible superbug. >> i'm going back in my mind, and that's never a good thing, especially on the fly, as to how dangerous this epidemic was was a few years ago? >> people talk about bird flu and flip out. let's get some numbers behind the actual flipping. when bird flu so far has affected 602 people.

so 602 people got infected. 355 of those died. it doesn't take be a mathematician to figure out, that's more than a 50% mortality rate. that is not good. that's the bad news. the good news is that this virus does not spread easily from person to person and that's what the superbug would do. if you could create a superbug version of this that spreads person to person, you have a survival rate of less than 50 mortality rate. that's the problem. >> that's what makes this so concerning. all right. you can't take the weekend off, then. you have to stay off it. >> that's right. i'll be here watching out for bird flu. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you. if you want to be an empowered patient, i would highly recommend it. read her blog at cnn.com.

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the hispanic vote, crucial. absolutely crucial in the race for the white house this year. and president obama and mitt romney, they know that. and they are vying for that vote. the president came out with a new immigration policy last week and at a gathering of hispanic leaders in florida yesterday, mitt romney outlined his plan as

well. in it he says he would reallocate green cards to keep families together. he would update temporary worker visa programs. he would give green cards to advanced degree holders and legal status in return for military service. listen to that last one. legal status in return for military service. that is not completely new. not entirely any way. but boy would that be a boom for immigrants. this seems to be resurfacing. maybe critical on the political menu. >> well, it actually -- if he's talking about actually giving citizenship to people who are right now undocumented or illegal, that would be a big change and that would greatly increase the recruiting poll that some of the military services have to draw from. right now the way the law is now you've either got to be a legal resident of green card holder or if you've got certain skills you can be a temporary visa holder.

in other words, you've lived in the u.s. for at least two years and you've got a legal temporary visa. but, again, all of those are legal categories, legal immigrants. and there are some real advantages to having the armed forces recruit some of these immigrants. one is the fact that they stay in longer. after about four years u.s. citizens, about 32% of them will get out of the military whereas only about 16%, 18% are noncitizens that get in. that cuts down on your training and are recruiting costs. they also bring language skills that can be very -- you know, expensive to teach. they can, in a lot of ways, bring those with them to the table. the disadvantage is, if you're going to have undocumented people coming into the military, you're going to incur a lot more costs in terms of vetting and doing background checks. >> if you can even do them at

all. how are we supposed to get access to information and records from people from different countries who may not want to supply that information? what exactly is the solution there? are there any details on what to do if this is a reality, if we are about to give citizenship to people who sign up to serve? >> well, right now all of the people who come in with sort of temporary status, after one day of honorable status can apply to be u.s. citizens and you've got to be a u.s. citizen to get a security clearance to do certain jobs in the military. now, if this were to go into effect with undocumented immigrants cominging in, that would be a whole new ball game. right now there have been undocumented immigrants who have served honorably in the united states military. i can think of a woman a couple years ago, she was injured in a suicide bombing in iraq. her commanding officer was killed. she scrambled to help bandage up fellow troops. they later found out that she

was usingi her aunt's name. she was honorably discharged because of her service in the military but she was discharged because, in effect, she did lie when she came in. >> it's amazing. still an honorable discharge but no citizenship, right? she didn't get that? >> right. she was only about five days away from her swearing in ceremony and they called her and said, hey, you're not going to be able to make this. we need you to come in. they said, look, we know who you are and sort of the gig was up. she just felt -- she knew what she was doing. she went in and right after 9/11 she had called and said, i want to join the military. they said, no, you've got a mexican passport. you can't join. she went back to her family and asked her family about using her aunt's identity. she served in the military, deployed to iraq for many, many years. >> that kind of commitment is -- i don't want to say commendable.

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i think what you've seen governor romney trying to do is trying to figure out how to come up with a pro economic growth approach that is both human and compassionate and honor our legacy as immigrants and understand that we have an immigration problem and we can't be the only country in the world that doesn't enforce its immigration laws. >> he's being vetted as mitt romney's running mate. >> i think he's been pretty clear he doesn't support the dream act and i don't support the dream act either. i've talked about that in my book. there is a way to accommodate these kids that is no fault of

their own and there's a way to accommodate then without encouraging or incentivizing illegal immigration in the future. >> in case you are wondering, marco rubio titled it "an american son." the guy in person expected to take center stage, it's referred to as the annual conference happening in florida. it's the national association of latino elected and appointed officials. so hundreds and hundreds of important people in that audience and everybody wants that vote, especially in the swing state in florida. that's in lake buena vista. we will go live with them at about 11:45. keep it live here for that. two towns liberated by warren jeffs are being sued,

folks. the justice department has slapped them with a lawsuit claiming that authority discriminated against citizens in that town who just so didn't happen to belong to the polygamist sect. the suit says that they carried out discrimination, denying houses and services to the unfaithful while allowing members to destroy their property. warren jeffs is serving a life sentence for raping two underage girls. he says he's still in control of those towns even from behind bars. another story we have our eye on as well, a mother arrested for allegedly planting drugs. she wrote a about and it was written under jill easter and her husband planted the drugs in

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karen klein, heard that name before? just last week she was an unassuming bus monitor and now she's becoming a household name. you've probably heard her name because of this video. take a look. >> you're a troll. you're a troll. you're a troll. >> how about i bring my knife

and cut you. if i stabbed you in the stomach, my knife would go through you like butter. >> middle schoolers, middle schoolers bullying their bus monitor, a 68-year-old grandmother. and because of this video, we are now seeing an entirely different side to this story. we're seeing compassion. we're seeing an outpouring of support from strangers around the world and here is the proof. see the number on the right-hand side of your jean? the $491,783? this was a crowd funding website. it was launched to send karen on a nice vacation and instead it was deluged with money. donations came in on oh the fly. in just 24 hours we're talking almost $500,000 from strangers

to karen. and the original goal of this website on the vacation was $5,000. karen for her part is in disbelief about all of this kindness and she had a chance to tell anderson cooper how she felt about it last night. >> i still can't believe it. i can't believe it that there's that much. it's a nice gesture but i just don't know if it's for real or not. it sounds too good to be true. >> well, so far, karen, it is for real. to get a better perspective on all of this, let's bring in a child psychologist. rachel, thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> i'm glad to talk to you of all people because i was reading your bio and you got your ph.d. in school psychology. i've got to ask you, when anderson asked karen last night if -- how she felt about these kids, these 12-year-old middle schools that deluged her with

abuse for ten minutes, she didn't seem to say that they were bad kids but caught up in something really bad. can you explain it? >> sure. you want to believe that children are good at heart and have the best of intentions and oftentimes they get caught up in peer pressure and don't really think clearly and make good choices and we're hoping that this is one of those situations that has gone too far, where peer pressure was instituted by one of the groups of boys and they just egged the other one on and caused this horrible situation to occur. >> so i'm sure you've probably heard this, rachel, but the police in upstate new york are pretty worried right now because there have been death threats against these 12-year-olds. let's remind everybody that they are 12 and they are trying to tamp this all down and just say, that's one more form of bullying for those people to pile on and suggest that these kids need to be threatened like that. what do we need to know about the mind of a 12-year-old and the mind of our own little

12-year-old? >> 12-year-olds don't always make the best of choices and you have to think about how they express their emotions. not all of them know how to express their emotions properly. you have a tendency to be verbally aggressive. who have vur role models been. is that how your caretakers talk when they are angry. bullying is often a result of poor self-esteem and poor self-concept. so you have to wonder that. >> i've been trying to put myself on that bus. i can't see the purview of the other angles. i can only see that one angle, as you could. but i kept wondering if some of those kids were jumping into this frenzy and trying to one up each other, really not regarding where these insults were landing. it was more a contest than attack. is there anythinging to that?

>> well, you have to think about, this is an older woman. she's an adult and you're taught in school that you want to respect your authority. you don't want to defy authority. simply because she's a supervisor intended to create safety and security for the children, these children had a complete lack of regard for this adult and i think that by one upping each other, that's a way of them saying, look, whatever type of adult this is, whether they view them in a high position of authority or not, they seem to think that's acceptable and that's okay. so the cycle got out of control and whether you're disrespecting somebody who you perceive at a lower level of authority or higher level of authority doesn't make it right. >> that's the understatement of the last 24 hours. the cycle got out of control. i just inherently want to believe that a 12-year-old isn't so toxic, you know. i want to believe that there's something good to these kids and that something else took hold and god help us if that's going

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got a live picture up on my right here if you're taking a look at your screen. that is the scene in lake buena vista, senator marco rubio coming at you live. he's following up on a big act yesterday. governor mitt romney speaking to that group about immigration. really walking a fine line on policy there. coming up in about five minutes, marco rubio has been vetted as a

possible running mate. also, president obama will be taking to that podium today at 1:00. i want to tell you this. we're also in a another breaking news situation. from jury selection to witness testimony, to the closing arguments, the trial of jerry sandusky has ripped along at a break-neck pace. now the lawyers and the witnesses and journalists and the judge all are taking a backseat to 12 very important people, the jurors. and they can take as much time as they want with this thing. we're only in day two of the deliberations and really the first full day of deliberations. because they are sequestered, they are supposed to be completely unaware of a bombshell that was dropped yesterday while they were behind closed doors with this case in

tryinging to decide it. sara ganim is with me now. she's a cnn contributor and she has been working this case. she broke the story. let's talk bombshell first, sara. you could have heard a pin drop when you heard that matt announced himself that he was a victim of his father's sexual abuse and most people wanted to know right away how on earth did that not get in this case. >> reporter: well, ashleigh, the first answer is that he was never called to the stand to testify. the long answer, though, is that matt sandusky did testify before grand jurors about a year ago and we don't know exactly what he said but jerry sandusky's attorney was not worried about his testimony at all. he said that it was not something that they were concerned about. so i would assume from that that he did not make any accusations against his adopted father. he also was sitting in the

courtroom with jerry sandusky's supporters when this trial began when opening statements were given. he was called out as a potential witness in support of his adopted father. that all kind of changed some time during the course of this trial. he came back into the courtroom even though he had been sequestered as a witness and listened to testimony as alleged victim number four. he said that during one incident in the shower with jerry sandusky, matt sandusky was present and left right as the assault was beginning, right as the alleged touching and horse hoarsing around was happening in the shower. ten days after he initially sat in support of his adopted father with his adopted family he put out a press release saying that for the first time he was an alleged victim of jerry sandusky. >> here's my question for you. everybody knows what a sequestered jury is. it means that they are closed

off. they can't go home. they can't talk to their families. they can't read the newspaper, watch tv until they are done, until they have finished their job. but it doesn't always work. sometimes they have cell phones. sometimes a newspaper is left around. sometimes a radio is on louder than it should be and sometimes there are tvs. do we have any indication, sarah, that those 12 behind closed doors may have any inkling of what dropped yesterday? >> reporter: all i can tell you, they were in sequestration before deliberations but they are now. right before they went in to deliberate, the judge said, you'll be staying in a hotel, the hotels won't have phones and the television in the hotel room will be shut down so they can't have access -- i mean, i think the court is doing everything it can to keep them from having that kind of access but we

simply don't know the answer to that. >> sara ganim, stay on it for us as we continue this verdict watch in the 48 counts that sandusky is facing. thank you, sara, live in front of the bellefonte courthouse. if he is convicted, he could face 500 years in prison.

nfrmts a little more than an hour the president of the united states, barack obama, will address the gathering of the latino leaders in florida. expected he will talk about the new immigration policy because of that's a hot topic in that group. he's trying to court the hispanic vote as is his rival mitt romney. just four years ago, at the same place promising hope and change to his hispanic voters but it is all about immigration right now. senator marco rubio has taken to the front of the podium and has been speaking in spannish back to english. he's talking immigration.

>> that's why enforcement process are important as part of any reform. i also think we have to reform our legal immigration system. i tell people all the time single greatest contributor to illegal immigration is a burdensome, bureaucrat sxwrik complicated legal immigration process. there are millions of people in this country that would go back home if they thought they could come back next year again to work in their seasonal jobs. i know of no one that wouldn't rather immigrate legally if they could. if they could afford it. there are some people that are out of status through no fault of their own. someone told them they were an immigration lawyer and gave the guy a $5,000 check and the guy vanished. now they are undocumented. it is complicated. if we are able to reform and modernize our legal immigration system if we can win the confidence of the american people back, we are left with the i shall uf millions people

of people still undocumented. what do you about them? i have talked about what do you about the kids. what about everybody else? here is the truth. we are honest with ourselves. we don't know yet. it is not easy. i know we are not going to deport -- round up and deport 12 million people. i know we are not going to grant amnesty on 12 million people. somewhere between those two ideas is the solution that will never be easy but i promise you we will get easier to find if we have a legal immigration system that works. and a confidence of the american people that we are serious about enforcing our laws. some may say that's too much to ask the balanced approach. it is if it continues to be politicized. i was tempted to come here today and rip open the policies of the administration. in a few moments you will hear from the president. i was tempted to come here and tell you he hasn't been here in three years. what a coincidence. it is an election year.

i was tempted to tell you why didn't he make this issue a priority. i guess i just did tell you. but -- it is not the direction i wanted my speech. because if i did, if that's what came here to talk to you about, then i would be doing the exact same thing i just criticized. exact same thing i just criticized. so is it possible for us to reach that point? let into close by telling you why i think we should. and we must. i really rely on a story recently learned of. i-didn't know the story before. i learned of it recently. story of an elderly man, came to the u.s. legally. and then decided to get back to his country because he was a little doiscouraged by the way things were here and decide goad back to his country again. >> let me jump in for a moment as he is talking about this

anecdote about the man that went back to his country. the politics we just talked about, very clever. i was going to criticize for a, b, r, d you about i don't think i will criticize him for a, b, c, d but i just did. one carlos lopez joins me live from florida. here is my question for you, sir. everybody knows by this point that mitt romney has been paint flood a bit of a corner on immigration because president obama came out with his policy on not deporting children of illegals as long as they meet a, b, c, d. this man on the screen, share the screen with us, marco rubio says he does not any longer support the original version of the dream act. so what does he support? what is marco rubio's position now when it comes to immigration? >> he had his own version of the dream act where he says that these kids should have a solution but it shouldn't lead

to citizen shsicitizenship. they should be able to keep going to school, join the military if they want to. it shouldn't lead to citizenship. he was speaking of this elderly man in reference to his own grandfather who came to the united states legally and ended up going back to cuba. then returned and he -- immigration authorities considered he couldn't stay, he had given up his residency and asked him to leave. it was a very sensitive time in the u.s. politics and he was able to stay. many criticized him saying you have a history, your family is an immigrant family. why aren't you supporting those that are here. he said he is and just said tonight his speech and beliefs there must be a solution between those who want to bring amnesty to 11 million undocksmeumented people. where do you find the common ground? >> amen to that. there's incredible statistics when it comes to, you know, unemployment and when it comes to the economy and hispanics' view on economy. it is 50/50 almost. you know.

across the country. most pressing issue face lag tino community today is the economy. only 46% of those who respond said it is immigration. really quickly, wrap it up for me. the president is coming with the same message or something completely different? >> the president is coming to show that he -- he had this new policy that will help kids and at least 800 thousand kids. not immigration reform. he says it is more than what are latinos have been getting from the republicans. here's a, economy number issue for latinos. immigration is an issue that gets people -- involved and gets people upset and we are going to see how they react to the president in this gathering of latino official. >> juan carlos lopez, thanks very much. much appreciated. coming up now, suzanne malveaux is live in florida and will bring you the latest. hey joe. yeah? is this a bad time? no, i can talk. great. it's the 9th inning and your hair still looks amazing.

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welcome. we are taking you around the world in 60 minutes. we are live from florida where it is day two of the largest convention of latino political leaders in the country. president obama will be speaking here in the next hour. we will bring that to you life. he is expected to highlight his new immigration policy that allows some young illegal immigrants to stay here in the united states. mitt romney addressed the group yesterday and the race to the white house is tight. latino voters carry a lot of clout. some crucial battleground states they actually could swing the election one way or the other. we are talking about here in florida as well as north carolina, virginia, colorado, and nevada. much more ahead on the latino vote and its impact. the lawyer for the man who killed 77 people in norway last year says his client is in fact, sane. he says he should be cleared. he admitted to the killings and

claims he carried out the attacks to fight multiculturism. some of the victims were young people attending camp. bre a judge's verdict is weeks away. opposition group describes today's shelling of one northern town as insane and hysteric. no one is denying the violence but there are conflicting reports about who is actually responsible. one opposition group says syrian security forces are to blame. but another opposition group says pro-government militia members carried out that attack. egyptians converged on tahrir square in cairo again. tens of thousands of people are protesting a power fwrab by tgr military leaders. they are demanding presidential results be released and military

rulers are warning against all the chaos. ben, i know you have been walking around and talking to folks and the crowd. give us a sense of how many people have gathered and what they hope to accomplish here. >> reporter: yes. i would say there's probably 20,000 to 30,000 people here. what's interesting is sort of a constant people leaving, people coming and it is rt to stress that this isn't really a spontaneous demonstration just to the north of here along the nile there are dozens of buses that have been -- supporters from the nile delta, outside of cairo, cairo traditionally not a very friendly city to the muslim brotherhood but this is all part of this massive tug of war between the military authorities that took over the country after the overthrow most-mubarak and muslim brotherhood.

authorities, obviously, have sort of the power of the state and the state controlled media behind them but what the muslim brotherhood is trying to show here is that they have the numbers. they organized people to come out in the street and to protest. so we are hearing two different messages. muslim brotherhood, they want those results of the elections to be announced. they want the constitutional courts ruling that this all -- the muslim parliament to be reversed. on the other hand, the government or rather the military is saying that the rule of law and then rulings -- of the courts must be respected. anybody that goes beyond peaceful protests and this is a peaceful protest, will face an iron fist. >> all right. ben, thank you very much forgiving us the latest update. stand-off between military as well as the muslim brotherhood that people there are supporting it, a candidate that they think won the presidency.

greece and germany are going head to head in the political arena. also on the playing field. in just a couple of hours, one of soccer's biggest games in the european championships is going to be played p they call it football over there. it is so important that leaders in europe move the meeting time of financial talks just so they could watch the game. for many fans and players, a match means more than just a place in the semifinals. >> social unrest, economic strife, political uncertainty. has been the backdrop to the greek national team's preparations for and participation at euro 2012. as the side geared up for a crucial quarterfinal clash, their manager explained to me how the crisis back home has affected everyone here in

poland. >> translator: look, the situation affected us the players and families, they have friends. they worry about what is going on. i would say greece is going through more than just a political or economic crisis. there is a social crisis for a lot of unemployment. the plaurs are human beings. they feel that. what i asked them do is try to forget when they play and to focus just on the football to show they are real fighters. >> reporter: so far the greek players done their best to put smiles back on the faces of their compatriots. a dramatic win over russia allowed them to book a place in the quarterfinals. a battle in a country every person in greece wants to beat -- a country many back home blame for their economic and political crisis -- germany. >> we are trying to not get involved in this. we are trying to play football. to win. of course. if we win and qualify we will

make proud the whole nation. >> translator: greek fans will be thinking of that as well as the germans. as far as the players are concerned they can have extra motivation and more passion in this match against germany. they can't lose focus. we need to think during this game. if we are play with our hearts and emotions we will be in trouble. >> emotional team. our history and play for the level -- you know, the people back home. we want to give to them a smile. >> reporter: can they beat the germans and advance to the semifinals of the tournament? most people would say no. but then again, nobody expected greece to win the european championship back in 2004 either. >> we are dreaming about it. sometimes history can repeat itself. i feel that our campaign hasn't ended. if anything, we started a new campaign. it may hold bigger challenges

and obstacles but have to keep dreaming and believing we can do it again. >> sometimes we think that the -- miracles happen once. but we -- nobody can stop us dre dreaming. step by step. >> step by step. frederik pleitgen. he is in berlin what a does this mean, possibility of a victory for germany? >> reporter: oh, the germans are absolutely into this game. as you said, this game, of course, has a lot of sporting i am flip indications but also political implications. not just in greece but, of course, here in germany as well. this is being titled as the debt duel, of the bailout between germany and greece as both sides are very emotional about this. i have a lot of germans telling me there are huge political implications. a lot of them feel misunderstood as the greeks. one of things that very few

people mention in greece, germany put up a considerable amount of money for these greek bailouts. certainly don't feel that they get enough credit for that. german team also believes -- this very interesting. something like a track game for them. everybody knows that the germans signed at least on paper is better and lot of emotions going for the greeks. germans feel as though if they win this game, no one will be surprised. if they lose this game, however, a lot of people in europe are going to be cheering. they know this is a very dangerous game for the germans but the people coming here right now, watching this game in about 2 1/2 hours. certainly believe there team is going to be able to pull it off. >> all right. fred, thank you. good to watch you. here is more of what we are working on for the hour. "newsroom international." fighting for afghanistan's refugees famous for writing the bestselling book "the kite runner." he is taking on a new cause. and also can you think of a more unlikely pop icon a communist dictator? we are going to hear why kids in

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>> reporter: many have been grateful to leave afghanistan but few grateful to come back. here at the boarder with iran we discreetly film how every day afghanistan's fiery neighbor deports dozens of the tens of thousands of illegal afghan immigrants struggling to make whatever they can on its streets. many referred a decade of war across the border to work as illegal immigrants. after a crackdown of being pushed back towards a war that still is continuing. men simply wander back towards the wall. some didn't make it back alive. 22-year-old killed in an accident. but the youngest few return adult in you a pier answer. beginning a slow process of aid workers reuniting them with families that can't care for them and needed the money they were earning in iran o sometimes send them straight back again. they come hungry and soon given new clothes and food and even

age 12 still carrying stories of a yet harder life in iran. >> translator: talking my father was in iran. he took me there. but he made me do hard labor. collecting plastic and trash to sell to factories. the money i earned disappeared. the police found me and sent me back here. >> one high-proceed pile author is helping the u.n. raise awareness the issue. the people that i met who we does placed in -- met them in kabul and elsewhere told me the reason they were move wrestling either because of conflict, because of fear of conflict, because of loss of land or home, shelter, lack of access to basic services or intimidation by local insurgent groups. >> you may remember him from his book, "the kite runner," made

into a movie that focused on an afghan family's immigrant experience. he is also a doctor. she joining us live now. thank you so much for being with us. you were born in afghanistan. you came to the united states when you were just 15 years old. tell just a little bit about your own experience. >> well, i remember live something afghanistan in a really wonderful era. pre-soviet war when they were at peace with its neighbors. coming to the united states after the soviet union invaded afghanistan was aeal shock, i think, to my family. everything that we owned in afghanistan we had to abandon. my parents' identities, they had to establish careers and worked so hard for. everything was abandoned and we had to essentially restart our lives from the ground up. that said, you know, i -- we were extremely lucky we were

found asylum in the united states. so by standards compared to other refugees we were terribly lucky. millions of refugees, afghanistan refugees and otherwise have not been as fortunate as i have been. >> what was the hardest thing, in your experience? >> i think the hardest thing for us to was to understand the life that we had previously is now gone. communities that we had, we had abandoned. property we had was lost. and we would have to re-establish a life, reconnect with a new community, restart our lives, re-establish another identity and in an environment, frankly, quite unfamiliar to us and so the challenge seemed very, very daunting. >> tell us a little bit about what is going on inside of afghanistan now, those who are actually displaced within their own country. >> yeah. we are seeing rising numbers of afghans who are displaced inside of the country, largely because

of conflict and as well as other reasons, having to do with lack of livelihood and basic services. we he en risings. last year we sa 185,000 afr gags be displaced. largely because of conflict. that's almost a 50% raise over the previous year. we now have over 400,000 afghans displaced inside of the country. we are seeing a process of displaced people moving to urban centers like kabul and the population there really exploding out of the of control. kabul'sopulation has tripled which creates the rapid organization. poverty, unemployment, rising crime because of that. >> tell us what can we do here? this is obviously more than a humanitarian crisis. talk about the fact you believe it is a national security issue as well. >> yes. i mean, you have -- it is a national surity at beca you have large numbers of rapiy growing population that's marginalized and poor and

endless. unemployed with very dim prospects for the future. those are, i'm afraid, sort of population that is prone to and vulnerable to the call of the insurgents. it is a nation security . i think -- i'm glad you said that this is more tan humanitarian iss because the humanitarian assistance part of it is really necessary. the conditions inside of afghanistan are very difficu for those millions who have returned. there room, many places in afghanistan where people don't have access to basic services like shelter, water, school, health care. they have no jobs. so although giving humanitarian assistance absolutely necessary, it is not sufficient. we need development in afghanistan. and that is what we haven't seen so far. inf infrastructure development, need to build viable communities at the village level where returning refugees can rebuild their lives. bridge that gap between giving humanitarian assistance and economic development. >> quickly here, do you see that mostlyalling on the responsibility of the afghan people, those inside of their own government and that your own

country, or the united states and the international community? >> well,you kn certainl the afghan state has to play its part in this. and it is going to be an important player in this hopefully -- in this solution strategy for afghan refugees. however, youknow, we have to remember that afghanistan even in its heyday was one of the poorest nations of the world, had an almost 25% rise in population over a span of just a handful of years, which is an enormous it is a to undertake. i think that this strategy to build at the rural level, villages, economic developments so the returning refugees have a chance at restarting their lives is going to have to be a multi-year international effort. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. they bomb churches in nigeria. ths. state department is calling them terrorists. we will tell you what's driving the violence.

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welcome back to "newsroom international." we take you around the world in 60 minutes. would you go to church knowing it could be a death trap? that's what christians across northern nigeria are faced with. their churches are being bombed sunday after sunday. the latest bombings happened just this past weekend. three churches were hit. the nigerian red cross says 50 people were killed in an attack and violence followed.

i want to bring in michael holmes joining from us atlanta. first of all, tell us about this group. who are they? are they an offshoot of al qaeda? how dangerous are they n. >> extremely dangerous. they came to be in 2002 and set up as basically a radical islamist group who wanted to set up islamic state in northern nigeria. very, very dangerous group. they have members from chad as well and what they do is oppose anything western and anything that doesn't fit in with that your own radical view of islam. they have also now expanded beyond that. criminal elements involved. are they linked to al qaeda? well, yes, a lot of observers think yes, they are talking with al qaeda. also with al shabaab which is based in somalia. the answer to that is yes.

>> why are they targeting church. >> well, you know, you have to look -- nigeria is mainly islamic north. muslim north. and a christian, mainly christian south. they are targeting the churches who live in the north, they are an obvious target for them. what's ironic about the group they are so radical they also target muslims in the north who they don't think fits into their radical view of what islam should be. they have been criticized by muss i am clerics and gone on and killed those clerics. in terms of the christians in the north they are being targeted to get them out of the north. then revenge attacks in south by muslims that live in the south. in the north muslims are often targeted as well. >> michael, i have been to nigeria with former president bush. this is a country that's very rich in oil. that's so important to them and to many of the other countries dealing with them in trade. is this about money? is it about oil?

is it about religion? >> you know are mainly about religion. but the economy does play into it. the north is in stark contrast to the south. you are right, they produce -- export i think -- 3% of the world's oil. and the south is quite wealthy, quite well organized. good infrastructure. the north not so much. that's because the oil is in the south. so there is this economic disparity and a lot of people feel you are not going to have that pace in the north until that disparity is made a bit more equitable. it is partly economic. yes. that's at the root of perhaps the solution to getting rid of this grou boko haram. the words sit self boko is in the household language. it used to mean fake. now it means anything anti-western.

haram is forbidden, sinful. >> forbidden western. all right. thank you very much, michael. appreciate your shedding light on this dangerous organization inside of nigeria. we are looking at the fat of the white house. itould rhe hands of the latino voters. we are hear to what president obama is about to say to this critical voting group.

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we are lye from florida for day two of the largest latino political convention in the country. we are about an hour away from a speech from president obama. he is expected to highlight his new immigration policy and the administration will stop deporting some young illegal immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. want on bring in juan carlos lopez. we had a chance to listen to mitt romney yesterday. some of the things he highlighted was obviously the economic situation. 11% unemployment. 2 million hispanics living in poverty. what are they expecting from president obama? >> i think a reply to what governor romney said. he was very critical of the president, of his relationship with hispanic community. you mentioned unemployment, one aspect of immigration. he promised immigration reform. it has not happened. i think they want to see when he's going to say now. this is a nonpartisan organization. but the majority of latino elected officials are democrats.

we will probably have more favorable to the president we had yesterday than governor romney. >> they seemed like it was polite but tepid applause at some point. they were looking fo specifics fr mitt romney. they didn't hear a lot of the specifics when it came to -- yes, republicans as well. immigration policy. is it enough that a president to address this one issue? >> it is not the one issue but it is interesting. look poll after poll, latinos aren't different. those latinos you aren't. they care about the economy, health care, education. immigration is a wedge. moves people. and they want to see something done because someone knows a person who might be affected by immigration reform so the president can bring his message but is coming to a place he hasn't visited the last three years as president and came as a candidate. that's one issue. the other issue is yes, bringing the announcement from last week. it is not immigration reform. it is an election year and we are going to have him -- a majority of democratic crowd. we will probably see a lot of cheering. >> do you think -- senator rubio

said earlier today -- accused the president of being a no-show the last three years and imply thing is all politics here because have you four months left before people go to the polls. do you think most people feel that way? >> the -- election year and we are speaking to viewers. people are smart. they know what lies behind these decisions. they know it is more than they had so you -- they got the choice. do they go with the democrats and with the president and with what he has done? he has done interesting moves r the latino community. do they go with the republicans? have you senator marco rubio looking for middle ground or do you deport 11 million people? do you grant am nest dwrnesty t million people? this is an important election and important moment to see whereoth party -- parties go. >> i want to bring up something that -- diversity of latino community. we have figures. first and foremost here, country. 60% of hispanic eligible voters are mexican origin. 14% puerto rico. 5% cuban. in florida, cube rans 32%.

mexicans 9%. why does this make a difference? >> because of the electoral college. states that will be key in november. you have florida, a puerto rica. republicans who tend to be favored by cuban americans in the south of florida. you have states like arizona and nevada and colorado. new mexico. where those latino votes could swing the state. and could define who goes to the white house. that's why they are so important. that's why you mentioned an important issue. latinos are not a one solid similar group. very diverse. but the electoral colleges makes them very important. >> the fact you have both candidates at this conference just underscores how important this will be. >> it is going to be a key issue and the key now is getting people to come out and vote. their own calculations say that -- there is about -- 20 million la teen whose are -- able to vo-- latinos who are exd to vote. to see it makes a difference to

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back despite some bad news. we have more bad news for the banks. going to take a look at the big board, up about 50 points. moody's downgraded major bank. bringing in richard quest from london. let's talk about this bank downgrade for the first moment here. have you news the spanish banks are going to need help. how much is it going to need? who is going to pay for that? >> spanish banks are now looking at $60 billion of assistance needed -- euro of assistance. and it is going to come that -- that money will come from the europeans via the spanish government. the money they are going to ask for 100 billion. they will ask for more than they need. but that is if you like largely bake to the cake now. the moody's downgrade on 15 major banks, look, there are would distinct views on it. the first is that this is significant because

investment -- certain investment managers can no longer buy them or the banks will have to pay more for their interest. cole rattle. so we will have an effect on morgan stanley, jpmorgan and the like. the other view is it is irrelevant. moody's basically blew a horn and told us something that we already knew, eurozone crisis was a risk and was likely to have an effect. >> what's this mean in terms of the u.s. economy? does it mean anything at all you have all these banks downgraded? >> oh, no. i mean, yeah, i can hear some people will disagree with me and they will say that, of course, it now means this greater risk on the table. but if anybody, suzanne, does not know by now that u.s. banks, european banks, are all reliable and risk, then, frankly, they are probably not interested in the business world. firstly, depositors in the u.s. insured up to a couple hundred

thousand. anybody watching that's worried about all of this, fdic scheme, sleep easy at night. you are okay. secondly, the -- the downgrades were relatively small except for one or two banks. it will cost the banks more money in collateral. yes, it will also mean they have to pay a bit more in interest rates. but please, for goodness sake, citibank or citigroup called the downgrades wrong and unfair. rbs said the same. looking at the banks. some of them call them erroneous. in all most people believe moody's is simply correcting -- overcorrecting, be overcautious because of their mistakes in the past. >> at 12 years old she made an impassioned plea to world leaders. >> in my life, i have dreamt of

seeing the great herds of wild animals, jungles and rain forests full of birds and butterflies. but now i wonder if they will even exist for my children to see. >> 20 years later, we will hear what she thinks about their progress at that time rio summit.

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summits is wrapping up in brazil. rio plus 20 is a global and environmental checkup. held 20 years after the first earth summit in rio, world leaders promised to take action to protect the planet. one speaker stole the show with her impassioned plea to the world. shasta darlington has the story. >> reporter: a quick internet search of the name suzuki brings back more 00,000 hits. all because of the speech the 12-year-old gave to a room full of world leaders at the first united nations earth summit. >> in my life, i have dream of seeing the great herds of wild animals, jungles and rain forests full of birds and butterflies. but now i wonder if they will even exist for my children to see. >> her words had such impact, her name is mentioned at earth summits years later. >> definitely surprised by the notoriety.

i mean, who would imagine that people would still be talking about a six-minimum speech that a 12-year-old girl gave so long ago. >> reporter: we met suzuki at rio plus 20 marking the 20th year of earth summits and taking place in the same city where suzuki first gave that iconic speech. the canyouth activist is a environmentalist and mother of two little boys. still working to keep the movement alive. >> 20 years ago, i went to the world leaders to act as their conscience, remind them of their children. now 20 years later, we still talking about that event. why? i think it is because the world is desperate for this message. children can speak the truth. that is what we need them to say today. >> reporter: to keep that message going, suzuki took part in a contest put on by the global tick, tick, tick campaign. to select someone to follow in her footsteps.

17-year-old new zealander brittney was chosen to speak to more than 130 global leaders. she says she only hopes she can have the same impact as her inspi inspiration. >> the fact she did this amazing speech, placed herself out of her comfort zone and said such power things to powerful people and seriously made a difference. she is still making a difference 20 years later. >> reporter: intermeat searcher her name returns more than 10,000 results. proof she may be on her way to setting an example for the next generation. >> it was communist dictator who ruled china with an iron fist. why are so many chinese teenagers suddenly treating chairman mao like a pop culture hero? ♪

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we heard the lowback young people are bringing outdated styles back to culture. it is hadding in china. young people have a new affinity all things mao. he was the founder of the people's republic of china but so-called cultural revolution resulted in the deaths of millions of people. "the new york times" columnist anan, he saw the trend firsthand in his recent trip to beijing. he report order what he found in

how mao became a hipster icon. great to see and you great article. very provocative. describe for me what you saw in china, new alternative scene that seems to glorify mao. >> it is interesting. when you at first walk down the grand boulevards of today's china, the first thing you see is the opposite. which is just senseless copying of western consumption, rolls royce dealership, nike, adidas. i started to see on the old chinese lanes person lick lar to those big boulevards, equal and opposite trend which is all these vintage shops that were selling the old maoist past to a young generation of chinese that didn't live during that period. don't know its horrors and were kind of attracted to these vintage shoes and vintage watches and vintage skin cream even as a way of lashing out

against the kind of hollow consumerism of their own moment in modern china. >> tell us the significance of this movement here. is the government concerned? are they reacting to the young people? >> i think it is actually a very healthy thing that seems disturbing on the surface. certainly mao is not the kind of historical figure you would want to have a beer with. it must be said that most of the kids who like the shoes and the glasses and the skin creams of his era didn't know much about it from the history books or from firsthand experience. but i think that the deeper thing here's going on here is a generation of people that has so heedlessly rush flood a very western looking future. some of them actually stepping back and saying hey, what's our identity? we are this huge country that's now everybody talking about a superpower. who are we? what's our soul? what's our identity? that's a healthy working out rather than their becoming a cheap copy of another country. >> all right. great to see you. very provocative article.

sorry, we have run out of time here. but a very good read. very universitying what's taking place in beijing. thank you. >> congrats on the show. >> thank you. we are taking a look at news around the world. also photos around the globe as well. we will bring that to you after a quick break. [ male announcer ] this is genco services -- mcallen, texas. in here, heavy rental equipment in the middle of nowhere, is always headed somewhere. to give it a sense of direction, at&t created a mobile asset solution to protect and track everything.

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