good citizens, i beseech you, do not fear the kucougar, the prou mascot of many schools. >> you can vote for your favorite at ac360.com. we'll see you again at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. of course i'll see you tomorrow morning on "starting point." we start at 7:00 a.m. eastern. thanks for watching. "piers morgan tonight" starts right now. tonight, my exclusive with conan o'brien. a late night legend. >> there's nothing more comical than the sight of me without my clothes on. >> his comedy, his life, his loves. conan tells all. >> is any of this going to get in the papers do you think? this won't get out. >> conan o'brien as you've never seen him before. >> we often go to the spa together. >> not now. come on. >> it was your idea. >> conan o'brien and he doesn't hold back. >> that's the dumbest thing

anybody's ever said to me, piers. >> the question i had to ask. how many times has he been in love? >> i'm just giving you the answers that are going to make it all okay. don't screw with this, okay? >> this is "piers morgan tonight. ." conan o'brien is very tall. he's very talented. he's very irish. he's also perhaps the funniest man with red hair on the entire planet. he's also an ordained minister and arthur of what's been voted the fourth funniest simpsons episode of all time. >> thank you so much. you didn't even scratch the surface. i have a high fall setto. i sing like an angel. i'm hairless. there's many things. i'm aerodynamic. there's nothing i can't do. >> what is the genuinely weirdest thing about you that nobody knows? >> wow, that's a good one.

the weirdest thing about me that nobody knows. i can be amusing at times. seems to have escaped people's notice. >> you don't do many interviews. >> i don't do a lot. >> i've been trying to lure you for like 18 months. i've appear on your show endlessly in a desperate attempt to lure you in. >> i don't do a lot because, think about it, i'm on television constantly. since 1993, i'm on tv for a chunk of time every day. i'm not looking for more way, to be on television. and no one in america seems to want me to be on more. so i -- if anything, pull it back. but i couldn't resist this. you have this beautiful lucite desk. it's very nice. it's like a classy airport lounge. it's beautiful. but i'm thrilled to be here. >> i'm thrilled you're here. i'm a huge fan, as you know. take me back to the first moment you made somebody laugh. do you remember it? >> yes, it was about four years

ago. i remember it very well. it was my wife. we'd been married at that point for seven years. let's see. i don't remember the exact moment. my mother claims as an infant i had mashed up some food in my high chair and was throwing it around and laughing and it was making my mother laugh and that her brother, my uncle, said, don't laugh, it's going to make him think he's a comedian or something. and that it caught on there. i think it always starts with the family. starts with the family. i'm from a large irish catholic family. and trying to -- the benchmark for me is trying to make my dad laugh or trying to make my brothers laugh at the table when we were having meals togethering. >> where do you come in the pecking order of the kids? >> we're not sure. we're always finding new ones. i walk into the bathroom and -- i'm liam. oh, we don't think we met. there are six of us. i'm third from the top, fourth from the bottom. so i have two older brothers.

two younger sisters and a younger brother. >> what do they make of being related so closely to the coco phenomenon? >> i think it's -- my brother, luke, looks a lot like me. luke and i look very similar. and we're only about a year apart. he lives in boston. he said many times he'll just be walking -- he told me once he was walking to a store to, you know, to buy, you know, some embarrassing product that he probably doesn't want me to mention on the air. he has a rash on his ass that's chronic. luke, i'm sorry. and, piers, i think you asked me specifically what was his ailment. anyway, he said he was walking people will follow him and follow him into a store and he has to turn and say no, i'm not him. he is actually. luke's a genius. >> your family, very close family. >> we're still close.

intalk to someone in my family at least every day. what's great about my family is they don't care that i'm on television. they don't care. they -- they -- we all make fun of each other. and they're very happy. i don't know. in your country, i think it's take the piss out of someone. they love to do that. they love to do that. >> which is not -- it's not a very common thing in american psyche to take the piss as we call it. sarcasm isn't a massively advanced part of the american humor. >> it is in different parts. it depends where you're from. in boston, it's a very strong thing. in boston, they love to take you down a peg the second you show up back in town. it's what i love about boston. this is a true story. i showed up in boston once a couple months ago. and i landed at logan airport. and i get out and there's a cab line. 'cause i'm gonna take a cab to my parent's house. so i'm headed towards the cab line. long before i even get a chance to get to the back the cab line,

this guy sees me coming. and he just -- he's the guy that runs the cab line. he goes, hey, back of the line, tv star. and i said, i was headed to the back -- yeah, you're like the rest us now, pal, you know. that's where i was headed. but they don't even give you the chance. it's they need to take you down a notch right away. >> when you were young, apparently in the third grade -- >> when i was younger. >> younger, my apologies. >> i'm 26. >> even in third grade, you did charlie chaplin impressions. >> yeah, yeah. >> you said to your parents as a kid, mom and dad, i'm going to be in show business, i need to learn who tap dance. >> yeah, true story. >> i love that line. >> television in those days very different from tv now. in the 1970s, they -- there's only a couple of channels. and the uhf stations, channel 3 and channel 56, all their programming is showing old movies. that's what i watched.

i grew up on old movies. my parents wouldn't let me go see -- >> what was it, gene kelly, fred astaire? >> yeah, i was watchingl ining gangster movies. humphrey bogart films. the movie "that's entertainment" came out. showing you what entertainment is. i thought like an idiot in the 1970s thought that was what entertainers needed to have to know. gene kelly. you have to know how to sing, dance, move. know how to do it all. i marched up to my parents and i said, i need to know how to tap dance. they thought all kinds of things. but they said okay. let's call him on his bluff. and they found me this really old african-american gentlemen who was a fantastic -- named stanley brown who said -- who had been the protegee of bill bo jengles robinson. he lives in this -- worked out of this delap talted studio. and taught all these, you know,

people how to dance. i was the only white kid there. not only that, i was tiny and i had bright orange hair. so all these beautiful black women are learning jazz, tap, and all this kind of stuff. then i would march in with my box of shiny shoes. like, hi, everybody, let's get started. come on, let's do it, see. then he would work with me. so my parents, god bless them, they were great that way. my dad's a my crow biologist and a scientist. my dad's a lawyer. they said this is what he wants to do. >> thhave they ever regretted helping you get into show business? >> i think no. i'm sure they have since. >> your mom in particular. my mother when it's going great, it's fantastic. when things aren't going well. it's so high profile and you get hammered. they feel it personally. >> mothers don't like it. but my parents the second i was paying my own rent they didn't care what i did anymore.

that's just true. the minute -- i think if i had, you know, when i paid that first rent check of my own right after i got out of college and i moved out. i said, by the way, you should know, i'm a hired assassin. we don't care. kill who you need to kill. >> show business was part of the allure of it being famous if you're honest, when you look back to that time? >> i have to say -- this is true of a lot of comedians. i've talked to other comedians and heard them say the same thing and i defy anyone to deny this. for most of us, it's getting girls to notice us. it really is. and, and it's -- it's still probably on some level. i'm very happily married. two kids. there is something initially especially in those early days. you notice -- you go through the check list of your mind of what do i have that might interest a girl. and i didn't have much. inwould go through the list. i'm not a good athlete.

my skin's not -- go down the list. the hair's a little silly. the name is weird. and then i got to -- they laugh. when i start joking around, they laugh and they hang around a little bit. so probably that's the initial -- if i'm going to be brutally honest, it was just to get -- >> just to get girls? >> not even -- not just get them. to get them to look in my direction, piers. i'm taking it down to a much more basic level. you know. >> you moved to l.a. after harvard. come to your harvard commencement speeches in 2000. one of the classic commencement speeches. >> have they ranked the commencement speeches? i'm very competitive. >> you've got to be number one. you're fourth on the list of simpsons episodes. >> that i can accept. >> when you went through harvard, everything much have seemed like it was all going swimmingly. you've got no agony, no torment, no pain. your father wasn't stubbing

cigarettes in your face. >> that's the dumbe esest thing anyone's ever said to me, piers. yes, tons of agony. it's very hard to look at someone's life in the abstra abstract -- >> where was your agony? >> insecurity. a feeling that i don't deserve to be where i am. for example, i think when i went to -- i worked very hard in high school. that's the dirty little secret about me. i was not -- i was always a very hard working student. and wanted to go to a good school and worked really hard to go to a good school. and then when i got there, immediately had the fear that a lot of people had which is i don't belong here. these are the people that know a lot more than i do. they're smarter. i'm the fake. i'm the phony. i think that is the common denominator you see with a lot of people. artists or performers. they don't think they belong. >> you still feel it? >> yes, i feel it today. i, i wasn't sure they'd let me in here. there's a constant --

>> is there pressure to be funny? that must be very particular -- >> it's funny, the -- it's odd or ironic, whatever you want to call it. my desire -- getting into comedy was a very beautiful accident. because i worked very hard at everything. i tried really hard. comedy was something i stumbled into when i was in college. i wanted to be a performer. and then thought, this isn't going to happen. i'm from brookline, massachusetts. may parents said, we don't know anybody in show business. so i kind of gave up on it and became a really good student. and then accidentally stumbled into the college humor magazine. and it was like falling off a log. and discovering what it is i was meant to do. i loved it. i absolutely loved it. i thought -- i had never valued being funny that much. i just thought, oh, that's something i do with my friends. and then suddenly i saw it has

some cachet in the real world. and these older students really seem to like the stuff i'm writing. and they seem to think i'm funny. they want to put me in charge of this place. so a lot of that changed my outlook on what i could do for a living. >> so harvard. >> yeah. >> making people laugh. everything's going great. let's take a short break because after the break it all goes horribly wrong. >> sex change. sex change when we return. >> i didn't want to mention it first. >> i was a girl. i was a boy. stay in the moment sanya

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that appears on your screen. i took a lot of criticism. some of it deserved. i'll be honest with you, it hurt like you would not believe. i'm telling you all this for a reason. i had had a lot of success. i had had a lot of failure. i looked good and i looked bad. i've been praised and i've been criticized. my mistakes have been necessary -- >> you wrote this incredible commencement speech at harvard

year 2000. i want to sort of tell the story of what happened to you after you left harvard through the prism of the speech. it was a wonderful life template i think for anyone who is considering life after college. you said, you see, kids, after graduating in may, i move to los angeles. i got a apartment. i bought a car. you said it was a car -- >> the isuzu. >> they only manufactured for a year because they found out technically it was not a car. >> i don't know what it was. it was a hair brush more than it was a car. >> but you go work on a show for a year. you must be thinking, i'm a harvard graduate, i've got on the show, life is beautiful. >> i'd love to pretend that's what i thought. i never feel that way. anyone who knows me will tell you i never think we're in good shape now. i've never done that. but yes. i -- i got that job and then as i said in the speech my writing

partner at the time lost that job. and then a lot of series of misadventures and highs and lows. >> at one stage, you're sent to the wilsons house of suede and leather and you're sitting there thinking how did a harvard graduate end up here. >> yeah. i had those thoughts many times. los angeles is a very -- when you don't have a job in los angeles, there's something about it that's more profoundly depressing than maybe not having a job other places. >> because all around you are success stories. >> yes. >> billboards and -- the whole machinery of the city is geared to achievement, success. not failure. >> right. >> when it's great, it's the best place to be in the world. when it goes belowrong, it's th most lonely place on earth. >> on this town, when you walk on a sidewalk, you're perceived as a failure. what happens -- >> if you walk you're peer seem perceived as a failure. >> you can walk on three blocks in this town and people will

pass you who know you and say, that's too bad what happened to conan. i guess he's, you know -- it's not like new york or any other city in that way. you just -- so yeah that was a very -- there's lots of intense kind of despair. >> you then get a big break. "saturday night live." >> i believe this gentleman has something to say. >> i just completed your course. i never dreamed i could be this handsome. thanks. >> you're handsome. give that man a round of applause. >> and after a year and a half, they read your sketches, they give you a two-week tryout. the two weeks turns to two seasons. you think, i made it. you get so cocky, you think, i'm going to go and write my own tv show. original sitcom. it's all going good. the tv show is going to be ground breaking. it was going to resurrect the career of tv's batman adam west. >> sounds like a fool-proof fan, doesn't it? >> i'm fearing the worse.

a comedy without a laugh track or a studio audience. it was going to change all the rules. when the pilot aired, it was the second lowest rated television show of all time. it tied with the test pattern they show up in nova scotia. >> yes, true. true. but i've seen the test pattern and it's funny. it's a very funny test pattern. >> what are you thinking now? you have this terrible disaster. then you get a break. then you get a little above yourself. think it's easy. then another disaster. >> i think, you know, i'm irish so we're just -- we always think the worst is ten minutes away or five minutes away. and so there's part of me that was always half expecting that. but yeah, i think you constantly think it's over. i've had that feeling of, well, i guess it's over about 35 times in my career. and one of them was just five minutes ago. >> is it the kindfed care of ca

the kind of career comedy that attracts neurotic insecure people. it's almost like the worst thing they should be going in for. that pressure to make people laugh is like nothing on earth. i've done speaking. when a joke doesn't work and there's a terrible reaction, it feels awful. i can feel the sinew of my body starting to compress. i don't know how you guys do this. >> well, first of all, never experienced what you're talking about. every joke has worked. 35,000 of them. and they've all gone brilliantly. you know, what's interesting is that for me i'm one of those people that -- comedy is the release. comedy is the -- doing comedy, although it can be scary and difficult, i find more agony in other things. you know what i mean? if someone asked me to make them a sandwich, i would have more fear revolving around making that sandwich and insecurity than i would about doing comedy. comedy in a strange way is the

escape from -- >> is there an art to comedy? people who have worked with you tell me you have an incredible instinct for what is going to be funny. what i don't know is whether the instinct is what makes you laugh or your instinct is what you think will make an audience laugh. >> i don't think about -- i just try and think about what i would like. >> what you would personally -- >> what i would personally find funny. i don't know how to do it the other way. you make slight adjustments. you learn this kind of thing. probably wouldn't work for these reasons. to me, there's a very strong comedy and music are very close together. and that's why musicians are very fascinated with comedy and want to be comedians. and comedians want to be musicians. myself included. there's something about having an ear for it it t. the people i really like have a comedy ear. they have a sense. they have a sixth sense about what might work. they go with that rather than trying to extrapolate what's the audience really going to like.

>> a chance to audition for the host of a new late-night show. biggest break of your career. you said, i was really, really happy. i thought i'd seized the moment. this is still the commencement speech. wrote in "the washington post," quote, o'brien is collage of annoying habits. he has dark and beady little eyes like a rabbit. he's one of the whitest white men ever. he's the host who should never have come. and let the late show with conan o'brien became the late, late show and may the host return to where he came. there's more -- you get absolutely buried by the number one critic. >> that was the nice part, yeah. >> when you read that, what did you feel? >> i think a kind of weird elation. no.

i always respond inappropriately. at the time, it's devastating, you know, to -- who can read something like that and not be devastated? i've never thought about my eyes the same way again. they are beady like. >> they are beady like. >> i'm having them completely redone. they're going to be twice the size. it's a very rare operation you can get. i'll talk about it later. but i remembered, you know, at the time there was an intense amount of criticism. you think about it, replacing david letterman at the height of his abilities. i always said i was sort of like one of the greatest baseball players ever, ted williams, departing the field -- >> telling me about replacing tv legends. >> exactly, right. someone like ted williams leaving the field after a brilliant career and everybody going crazy and cheering them saying don't worry, his replacement's here, chip whitley. a guy like me running out. hi, chip whitley here.

don't worry about ted williams. i'm going to catch up real soon. and then, you know, striking out right away. you can imagine what the reaction would be. so i never in my heart had any -- really had any ill will towards people because i think -- if i could have -- if i had not been myself and had watched conan o'brien debut after david letterman, i'd have been horrified as well. >> what you didn't know that day in harvard, 2000, was of course you were going to land the holy grail of comedy, "the tonight show." and then you were going to have another down moment. >> oh, yeah. in a way, i say i'm going to go on to have more, you know, bigger failures. i wrote that thinking "not really." >> let's take a break. i want to hang on the big one. the big moment. whatever you want to call it. >> -- get hit by a softball? >> yeah. >> i don't get softball. it's softball but the ball is not soft at all. and if it hits you --

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that happened. except you losing your job. i -- >> i will tell you -- i will tell you, and this is honest, the only consolation i took during that period was that you were happy. you know, i refer to that period of the golden age of television, really. >> the period when i lost "the tonight show." >> yes. >> that brief week and a half period. for you is the golden age of broadcasting. >> yes, that's right. >> conan o'brien on cbs "late show with david letterman." all laughing around then but it's no secret that -- well, let's go to the moment you got "the tonight show." that moment is the holy grail of comedy in america. did you feel, this is it, i've got my 20 year plan now worked out for me? >> probably on some level you think this is going to be fantastic. then there's another level where

they announced it. you know, it was the strange -- now it's clearly absurd plan that was announced, you know, five years ahead of time. like one of stalin's -- >> yeah, quite extraordinary. >> stalin's grain production plans for the soviet union. like, this will happen and, you know, that's just not how television works. in retrospect now you realize it's a strange thing to have this weird handover -- >> i think that cutoff point. >> right. >> you can see leno's ratings were still pretty good and you're still number one. did you start to think, this is going to be tricky? whatever happens, this is going to be an odd psychological thing. the guy lieaving isn't leaving s a failure. >> right. the thing i'd say there, no "tonight show" host has left. that was not the reason for any of them going. i think the concept was at the network -- no one was expecting

that to change. i certainly wasn't expecting that to change for jay. i don't think that was necessarily the motivation. it was, you know, let's move on to the next generation. >> so was that the greatest moment of your career, landing "the tonight show"? >> no. in retrospect, there was this announcement and then it never, you know, never felt like it really happened. >> it took five years. >> and then was there for a few months. then there was a plan to maybe shift this later and have him come back. it all seemed so silly. honestly happier now, you know, i'm honestly -- this feels to me, now, like a greater achievement for me, anyway, because i'm doing exactly the show i want to do. i'm doing it with people that i love. and we get to do it our way. and we're with these amazing partners at turner. so for me this act feel about u more like an achievement.

>> i guess all the catastrophes you had to endure. you always bounced back to something better. >> right. >> the pattern has always been -- something's gone wrong and then boom. >> i think, you know, someone said to me -- i think it was my dad. said if you read any biography of a great figure. great historical figure. if you cut to the middle of the book, there's a lot of trouble. like churchill. lots of disappointment. not that i'm a great figure. but there should be in a good career there should be a lot of challenges. and so i wouldn't -- i would honestly not really change anything that happened. it's been fascinating. it brought me to where i am now, which i love -- >> what did your parents say to you when it ended? >> they don't follow the news. they think i'm still hosting "the tonight show."

they think i'm doing a lovely job. they're very confused. >> do you feel more free, more liberated? >> yeah, definitely. >> it seems to me -- >> they let me do whatever they want. >> a lot of -- >> yeah, you know, we -- we are partnered with turner on this. and it's a fantastic opportunity to -- first of all, they encourage us to travel the show constantly. we've traveled twice in one year. which is is unheard of for these shows. they've also really -- they've been amazing partners in helping us build what i think is a new kind of talk show. where we have an incredible social network presence. and we're also able to have this show that's very -- i think a very funny show. but also a show that is having a dialogue with our audience. we're actually talking to our audience. they can talk back to us through the social network. they can sometimes affect what happens on the show. in that way, i think it's been

really thrilling creatively for the last two years. >> i want to come back and talk about some your greatest hits as a talk show host. it's going to be an unrelentingly positive segment. no pour humiliations. no more rising from the ashes. pure glory. >> wow, let's get to that. that will be nice. [ male announcer ] research suggests the health of our cells plays a key role throughout our entire lives. ♪ one a day men's 50+ is a complete multi-vitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. ♪ it has more of seven antioxidants to support cell health. that's one a day men's 50+ healthy advantage. [ engine turns over ] [ male announcer ] we created the luxury crossover and kept turning the page,

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♪ i pity the fool this is the instrumental part. my skills are really amazing. you snuck into the room? >> i sneaked into the room. snuck isn't a word, conan. you went to harvard and you should know that. >> snuck. past and past part of sneak. >> i'm on conan o'brien. with my feet up on the desk. and i got a couple words for you. you better get your act together! >> so from "the late show." you've done thousands of interviews now. thousands of monologs.

you got five minutes left to live. you can relive any moment from any of those shows. >> so this is the positive part of the interview? five minutes left to live. fantastic. >> what would you go for? >> which guest would i go for? >> or a moment or something where you thought it defined you or for whatever reason particularly memorable. >> wow. okay. i did a -- i did a very silly remote once where i -- we found a group of baseball players that play baseball in late 19th century rules. and they do it in the costume with the mustachmustaches. i went out and put on the mustache and spoke in that sort of turn of century baseball. it was so me. i've always said whenever i go, don't even give a eulogy, just show that piece. it's me with the big mustache and acting like a complete ass. that's my favorite thing to do. it was right in my wheelhouse so

to speak. had these great magical moments in it. i would say roll that. ♪ if that was any lower, i'd have to dig to hades itself to find the apple. why not dig a trench, then the ball would be as low as you seem to wish it to be. that was no strike. ♪ one more of those and you'll regret it, see. what is that demonry? everyone's free.

>> in terms of guests, who are the ones when you see they're coming back your eyes light up because you think, okay, this is going to be great? >> tom hanks is one of the great guests of all time. he's just the whole package. he is a massive superstar who also is as funny as any comedy writer or comedian that i've ever known. and also knows how to tell a story. he's a recan tour. they didn't exist anymore, people like that. >> what is the nightmare guest for you? >> i would say you're awful, dreadful. >> why do you keep having me back? >> you always find your way in. we don't even invite you. half the time, they just pull out to a two shot and piers is sitting there. >> funny one recently with the romney sons. >> a large family to me but this is just the tip of the iceberg. we have a photo here of a family gathering of the romneys. absolutely incredible.

when you guys get together, there's a global khaki shortage. there's a panic worldwide. >> how commeedically rich has this campaign been for you? >> it's funny because our show doesn't focus on politics as some of the other shows. we touch on it when it works for us. sometimes my show can be shockingly irrelevant to the news. we also do that. i find sometimes people tune in to us when they want to escape what's happening in the news because we have the ability sometimes to just create our own comedic world and live off of it. but obviously it's something that is a source of humor and, you know, so you figure it out and it -- it got much better for us once it was decided it was obama versus romney.

for a while sorting it out it gets so complicated that you've got so many different comedic angles going. once it settled into obama versus romney. to me, that's the only hope, that's the common ground. if we can together come together and mock "jersey shore" then we've really, we've brought this country together. >> of course you met your wife on a comedy show. >> yes. yes, i -- well, i met her when i was working on "the late night show" and i went out in the field to shoot a remote. i went to an ad agency and she was one of the ad executives. >> we're going to talk about your wife. want to know who makes who laugh most. >> interesting. >> whether you laugh in bed. whether she laughs at you in bed. >> doing very badly. >> 3, 2, 1. go! [ male announcer ] this is rudy.

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♪ what's it called ♪ once again ♪ sorry mom the mob has spoken >> the classic simpson's episode. voted fourth best of all-time. are you pleased? >> enraged. no. i'm just, you know, the simpsons for me is a gift that keeps giving because i'm always very clear with people. i didn't create that show. i did nothing -- that show was up and running and a massive success when they let me step on board for a few seasons. just before i took over the late night show. and so i loved it. i absolutely loved it. what's nice is those episodes are out. i can be anywhere in the world

and people will occasionally in any other country bring up one of the episodes i worked on. in that way, it's this beautiful gift that keeps giving, yeah. >> let's talk love,love, romanc marriage. how many times -- >> well, which one? >> let's start with love. how many times have you been properly in love in your life? >> as you know i'm married so there is one answer to that. >> is that the diplomatic answer? >> properly in love, yes, my wife liza. >> you've never had your heart broken before that? >> it wasn't a woman, it was a cat that betrayed me. we don't want to talk about the animals. i -- i'm going to go with my answer, my wife. my beautiful wife. >> when did you realize she was the one? >> instantly. >> was it instantly? >> i'm just giving you the

answers that are going to make it all okay for me. don't screw with this, okay? instantly, i knew right away. yeah, actually i did know very quickly. we were -- it was being shot for television, so somewhere in the vault at nbc there's footage of me literally falling for my wife on camera. it's -- >> what was it about her? >> she -- well, to be crass, she's incredibly beautiful. that was the first attention getter. and i'll admit that does work occasionally on a guy. ladies, little trick for you. when you're really beautiful, that can work sometimes. and then, what was nice, is that we just talked on the phone for a while. that was our relationship, because i'm impotent. is any of this going to get in the papers, do you think?

this won't get out. we did talk on the phone for a while, and she's very intelligent and funny, and a really good person. so the nice thing is that that was the basis of the relationship. so i just knew. >> are you a romantic man? >> i'm going to say deep, deep down under layers and layers of repression and ham, and layers of carbohydrates there's a romantic guy down there, yes. but man is that covered up. it's a slim jim of romance with with massive insulation layers of insecurity and self-loathing wrapped around it. >> how would you like to be remembered? >> that guy was well endowed. massive. just -- he was a freak show. i saw him in a men's room. it was scary. that's the kind of. no, honestly i would -- if

anyone remembers me at all for any amount of time, would i like to be thought of as someone who -- i do try, i think, sincerely to be nice to people and try to make them laugh. and i think mostly it comes from a good place, so that would be with nice. if not that the hair, i'd like to be known for. and then the endowed thing would be great, if we could just swlip that in. >> so you make people laugh, you're well endowed and you have ginger hair. >> yes. that's not bad. >> i think in a way, those three are all true, and you would know, you've seen me -- we with often go to the spa together. >> come on. >> it was your idea. >> had is really ugly.

it is uncomfortable. >> go to the spa. turns out it's not even a spa. it's a creepy room he has. >> you're not going to get your plug if this goes on. >> oh, yeah. >> you want to read it? >> watch conan week nights at 11:00, 10:00 p.m. central on tbs. miss it and you're a fool. when we come back, madeleine albright is going to be here, she's going to make cookies with us. also, angela merkel coming up next. you talk to real people who have done real things, what was this. >> conan o'brien. when we come back, only in america. talk about a photo finish. why this race may come down to a toss of a coin.

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for tonight's only in america, a real photo finish, take a look at this. crossing the finish line in the women's 100 meters in the u.s. olympic track and field trials on sunday. jen is wearing number one, alison wearing number two. they finish in a dead heat. and for the coveted spot on the women's 100 meter olympic team. listen to what alison felix told

me when we sat down recently? >> i've got to win. this is the one missing thing, it's the thing i really want. i need everything to come together at the right time. >> it came together all right. unfortunately, just as jennifer came together as well. they were both given the exact same time, down to 1/1000 of a second. after all that grueling training, running their hearts out in a race to get that last spot on the team, alison and jennifer now have two choices, a runoff or a coin toss. not just any old coin toss, there are some serious lly pedantic rules, and they are as follows. the usatf representative shall bend his or her index finger at a 90 degree angle to his or her thumb, allowing the coin to