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visit cnn.com/impact. thank you for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley. find us on itunes, search state of the union. fareed zakaria gps is next. >> this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. we'll start today's show with american politics in the wake of the supreme court ruling on health care. what does it mean for the presidential race? for health care? what about economics? i have a star studded panel to discuss all of this. then we go overseas to egypt's election of mohamed morsi. what can we expect from an islamist president? two of the top egypt experts tell us. next up, how do you count and catalog 1.2 billion people? i'll ask the man creating a
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revolutionary biometric id for every one of india's citizens. >> also, the housing bubble caused the crash. will a coming housing boon finally power this anemic recovery? >> first, here's my take. what to do about syria? western military intervention looked fraught with difficulties. but the situation on the ground is a humanitarian nightmare and is creating greater instability by the week. i have been persuaded they might be a path forward. the pressures on bashar al assad's regime are mountding. it's running out of crash and faces a real military threat from turkey. these pressures could be combined with smart diplomacy to push assad out of power, but it would mean trying to work with the russian government rather than attacking it. the u.s. has been bashing russia for shielding assad, coddling an
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ally at the cost of lives, some is true, some false, but all is unhelpful if the goal is to oust assad. unless the united states intends to ask iran for help, russia is the only country with any influence with the syrian regime. now, the first thing to realize is the extent of russia's links with syria are limited. the economic ties are weak. russia is syria's ninth largest trading partner. it's well behind the eu, iraq, china. political ponds are not strong, either. assad's first trip to moscow came place five years after he became president, well after he went to france, turkey, britain. russia's naval base is often described as highly strategic, yet it's rarely used. it's been allowed to scrcrumble. no russian shape is based there.
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it's deliveries to syria are marginal. less than a tenth of what it sends to russia every year. moscow could rush out and make their generals understand they could preserve the military if they assisted in dislogic the regime and moving to a democratic framework. that's what the egyptian military has done and why the revolution is not perfect, it's preferable to a long and bloody civil war. russia might be unmovable. its officials are paranoid about western officials who topple the regime. but they are also concerned about what would come after assad. in a country where 40% are minorities, especially if some long sectearian war would nr
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energize jihadi group. if they could be persuadined th assad is going to fall and the best way to prevent radicalization is to push transition now, they might be willing to help. it's a long shot, but it's not impossible that moscow would shift from being part of the problem to part of the solution. it's certainly worth the effort before we move toward a wider and deeper war. for more on this, you can read my column in this week's "time" magazine on at time.com. let's get started. >> joining me now to discuss this wild week in america and maybe we'll get to europe as well, jeffrey saks who served as kle columbia's earth institute, and peter ran for senate in connecticut.
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peter was president obama's first budget director. he's now a citibank executive. and katrina is an editor and publisher of the nation magazine. welcome to you all. the first thing we have to talk about is the supreme court ruling and none of us are constitutional scholars so politically, katrina, does it help obama because you can see both arguments, does it help obama or does it energize the tea party? >> on balance, it helps obama. it's a victory for obama, a victory for the american people, for forces who have been fighting for a sane health care policy for the country, human, moral. it also helps with legitimacy of leadership of the presidency. that was in question, and it helps in the sense of this renewed priorities because this president, if he gets out there and makes the case, explains provisions that show even republicans when it's broken
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down like this plan, he needs to get out there and make the case. sure, it will energize the tea party, but they're energized anyway. will it help with the independents, i think so if he gets out there as the democratic party needs to, and explains, provisions, pre-existing conditions, your kids can stay on your health cay particular. this is the kind of american many want to live in. >> peter, i take it you didn't like the ruling, but on the politics of it, do you think it will energize the tea party? >> probably, it gives you more of a reason to support romney. now we have to do it legislatively. this is not the kind of america i want to live in and i would disagree. you don't need to be a constitutional scholar to recognize this is a terrible decision. it diminishes individual rights, and the supreme court said that congress doesn't have the power to force us to buy something, but they can tax us if we don't. that's a distinction without a
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difference. i think more importantly, if you want to label this a tax, it's unconstitutional on its face because this is a direct tax on american citizens who don't buy health insurance. the constitution says it must be apportioned. this is unconstitutional. if they're saying the constitution doesn't apply and the federal government has unlimited taxing powers, it's a real sad day in american history. what it means to be an american has been irreparably changed, and it's a disaster for health care, for the economy, health care is going oo be more epensive, not less. it's not good economics, not good policy, and it's clearly unconstitutional. >> peter is one of the authors of the health care plan. what doyou think the net effect will be? >> health care costs in the last three or four years have decelerated and i don't think it's because the economy has been weak. we're moving atowards a
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digitized health care system. the dividing lines between providers and payers are eroding, and that's all good. so -- >> and there are provisions in the health care bill that will accelerate this? >> it will encourage it. we need to continue the progress. if we don't move away from the fee for service system, we will not succeed in slowing health care costs and we'll all be better off if we succeed. >> what do you think, jeff? >> i agree with what peter said and katrina. this is a good decision for the american people. it brings us to a fairer and more normal state and it's also creating a basis for getting our health care costs back under control. we're moving more towards the kinds of systems that other countries have which cover everybody and keep the cost s down. we have a system which is to quote most market ororiented, a
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what do we get? higher prices. and the things peter helped put into legislation make a difference. >> it's expensive because of government. we have to get government out of health care. we have to get individuals buying their health insurance the way they buy auto insurance, life insurance, fire insurance. we don't have problems there. >> all of the other countries have more coverage at lower cost and better outcomes and more government. >> just because other countruni make mistake doesn't mean we should emulate them. >> my take is that their systems are better. >> we did try it and we had a better health care system that was -- >> when? >> before the government stuck its nose in. >> before we had medicare and medicaid. before we had the tax code that -- >> old up, you would rather live with the health care system in
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the 1950s than the one you have access today? >> i don't want the technology of the 1950s but the free market of the 1950s. the would be a vast improvement. >> we have to move on. i want to ask about the economy in general. you have been bloomy about this recovery from the start, and you are unusually for somebody who generally is part of the left of center, you were critical of the stimulus because you thought it was too much fuel and consumption, not enough fuel in investment. >> i thought it was fueling the deficit but not providing much of a lift, and also not a lift when it was going to count, which is the medium term. unfortunately, the administration used the ammunition in the first couple years and here we are in the fourth year, a weak economy, not going anyplace. i would have rather seen a strategy that built out our infrastructure and that improved training and education skills and many other things over a decade perspective rather than putting everything up front, and
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i think we're in this situation right now where we don't have ammunition right now in the economy remains weak and the hend winds are not only internal, the kind that comes from this deleveraging process, they're not only unfortunately coming from europe which is the biggest mess in the world, but now they're coming from slow-downs in the emerging economies as well. we're seeing a kind of synchronization of slowdowns almost everywhere in the world. it's rather danger. >> a lot of the recovery has been fueled by exports and so those exports slow down, you have a problem. >> what strikes me about the election is it's an extraordinarily important election. at the same time, some of the enormous issues of the time aren't fully engaged in it. a global economic crisis in the planet. what's going on in europe, the campaign isn't fully engaged in, but i think at the heart of it, fareed, is that there is a kind of establishment consensus
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around some form of austerity, not growth. and unless this country, whether it's movements or electives, treat joblessness as the biggest threat to the country, not deficits in the shortterm, joblessness will become the new norm. and how do we address that? >> i have to let peter get his view in. >> i disagree that we have a recovery. all we did was borrow more money and spent it. as a result, we're in a deeper hole. but i think our problems are self made. the mess in america is bigger than the mess in europe. we're less capable of paying our debt than europe. we have a bigger debt, and more importantly, when interest rates going up in america, they're about 7% right now in spain and the world is wondering if spain is afford it. america can't afford 7% interest rates. we're less able to pay that than is europe or spain, and that's going to happen. and you're talking about creating jobs. we're not going to create jobs
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by creating government by expanding consumption or deficit spending. in order to create jobs, we need to get the government out of the way of the economy. we need more savings, more production, which means we need less government, less government spending. if we're going to expand government, we're going to destroy the economy. >> one of the main things quickly is public private investment in instrustructure. who could be oppose to that? >> i am. >> we have to take tabreak and come back and see if there's any agreement in europe. we'll try to city if we can agree on europe when we come back. >> if you look at countries that have their own central banks which means they have the ability to print money, none of these countries are having any trouble borrowing, britain, sweden, japan, the united states. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year.
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sachs, peter shif, peter orzach, and katrina. if you look at countries that have their own central banks which means they have the ability to print money, none of these countries having any trouble borrowing, britain, sweden, japan, the united states, switzerland. the only countries having trouble are countries whose debts are denominated where they don't control. >> you live by the printing press, you die by the printing press. that's going to make it worse. eventually, our creditors are going to realize it's like get not getting paid at all. we're going to pay a heavy price for our bailouts. what europe needs to do is solve the problems. not kick the can down the road. europe has the resources to make that mistake. i don't think we do. a lot of people think we're suffering right now in america
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because of the problems in europe. that's the best thing we have going because people are so worried about europe. they're buying dollars, they're buying treasuries. but when europe finally confronts its problems, right or wrong, whether it pushes them down the road and makes them worse or deals with them now, the spotlight is going to move to america. >> we have a federal reserve. we have a central bank. to me, one of the great political dangers looking out at europe and what austerity has done, even to countries which control their own federal bank like the uk, is what a mitt romney and a republican party determined to slash spending in the face of a weak recovery, what that could mean for this country. it's clear putting aside our differences, that one of the grave needs is to put money in the pockets of people, consumers, how do you do that? joblessness may be the best way
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to -- job programs, to give people jobs, may be the best way to avertthe crisis. look at spain. >> how do you give people money without taking money? >> the right approach in my opinion is a bar bell one in which we're doing deficit reduction that is not taking place immediately -- >> that's what we need it right now. >> and investment up front to spur the economy. we can could do both. >> i think we mostly agree on that at least looking over a period of several years, you have to get your books in order, and it raises the most fundamental point and a point of pretty big disagreement between us about at what level should we balance the books. should it all be spending cuts. should it be tax increases so we can continue to do some kinds of spending? i think our biggest problem right now in this country is
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that the powerful political interests in both parties actually, though especially in the republican party, are so controlling the tax cut side that we have gutted the corporate income tax, gutting the personal income tax. everything is moving offshore more and more, so the amount we're collecting at the federal level is near historic low, basically historic lows over the last 60 years. about 16% of gross domestic product. we can't rub a normal civilized country at this rate. if key do that, we end up with the poor, without health care, on the streets. the democrats, though, while the rhetoric is different, they also have powerful interests that are saying don't go very far on that. both parties are basically tax cutting parties and we're bleeding in that way. we agree that the budget should come into balance, but i want
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rich people to pay something. >> first of all, government spending right now is as high as it's been, and it's not just the spending. i own a business and it kau costs me hoar to compline with taxes. it is a burden on society to comply with the taxes and the government sucks the capital out of the economy by running these enormous deficits. if the government takes money from the private sector and spends it, it destroys economic agati activities. we don't want jobs, we want stuff. we need more production, more supply, not demand. the government can put us all to work, but we'll have nothing to show for it. >> how about skills, infrastructure? >> that doesn't come from the government. >> excuse me, we have public schools, we have children that need education -- >> you're talking about the federal reserve. >> now you want to go back. you want no health care for the elderly, no public schools? >> but the federal government is
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broke. >> can we go to the supreme court? >> we're living at a time of concentration of wealth, income, and political power we haven't seen since the guilded age. they're at an all-time age. i think we need to take a measure of that. how do we limit that, end that, and rebuild the politics for the 99%? >> we're going to have to leave it at that. peter, katrina, peter, jeff, thank you so much. up next, what in the world? despite all its economic troubles, america does have one core strength that sets it apart from other countries. what it is? we'll tell you when we come back. ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours... everyone else buzzed about the band. there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where to next?
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now for our what in the world segment, they say that all politics is local. maybe all economics is local as well. a sample of americans were asked how they rated economic conditions. 49% said thing were good or excellent in the city that they lived in. that percentage dropped to 37% for how americans feel about their state. it drops to 25% for all of the united states. to 18% for europe, and only 13% for economic conditions in the world at large. the more macro things get, the more despondent people feel. at the local level at home, things don't seem too bad. it got me thinking about housing, the most local of all financial indicators.
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it's making a comeback. this week, we learned that u.s. house prices have now risen for the third straight month. the case shuler index shows r residential prices in three key cities rose by 7% in april. sale of new homes rose by 7.6%. it highlights a trend and provides some small reason to be optimistic for the broader economy. why? history shows in the immediate years following a recession, housing leads the comeback. look at this chart. it shows data for the first year of the last four american recoveries. the bar in blue shows what percentage of gdp growth is attributed to investments in housing. as you can see from the last three recoveries, housing provides on average one fifth of the nation's gdp growth following a recession. 2009 was different, the housing burst kept home sales depressed.
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now, look at the second year of these recoveries in red. again, positive in the previous recoveries but negative in this one. that looks set to change. the latest data suggests finally, slowly, the u.s. housing market having hit rock bottom is heading upwards. vac a vaccancy rates are down, housing rates are up. production will increase, so will jobs, so will the economy. for all of the dooms day prophecies about the economy, one reason to remain optimistic is demographics. accounting for births, deaths, and new entrants, we have one new person every 13 seconds in this country, that wirks out to 2.5 million people a year. these people will all need places to live. we can count on a future growth in housing, construction, and therefore those jobs.
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compare our demographics with those of other rich countries. germany's population is set to decline by 170,000 people this year. japan's slowdown is already in large part due to the demographics. it's current population is 127 million but it's on pace to drop by a third by 2015, almost one in 4 people in japan are over the age of 65. in the u.s., only 13% of the population is over 65. a fifth are under the age of 14. a guarantee that will have young dynamic entrants into our work force for decades. the crucial factor that explains the unique advantage is of course immigration. our fertility rates are not so different from those in europe. what makes us demgraphically dynamic is we take in about a million legal immigrants every year. more than the rest of the world
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put together. they are going to finally get us out of this sluggish recovery. we'll be right back. up next, egypt gets its first ever freely elected president. but will he have power? >> if you really are serious about getting the military out of power, you need a president who can unite all of these disparate forces, the revolutionaries, the liberals, in order to make a united front. is mohammed, morsi, who is the very faithful son of the muslim brotherhood the guy to do this? chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save.
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nearly a year and a half offer toppling hosni mubarak, egypt has a new president. his name is mohaomhoaumohommord. will the military allow him to yield pow snr i'm joined by two economics to know egypt very well. steven is the author of "the struggle for egypt" and we have a professor at a university. you know mohamed morsi. what kind of guy he is? >> he's -- he's a very -- one senior muslim brotherhood member describes him to me, he's a
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fighter personality. which i think is right. he's a fighter, and he was one of the best muslim brotherhood members of parliament from 2000 to 2005 in terms of standing up to the regime in terms of ferreting out its corruption and holding it to account for its corruption and failures. but you know, a fighting personality is a fighting personality. this is not a person who is seductive in the way you expect politicians to be. not a glad hander, somewhat someone who can really win over people. a lot of people have talked about his lack of charisma. >> probably a good think. >> it may be a good thing, but at this moment in egypt's history, if you really are serious about getting the military out of power, you need a president who can unite all of these disparate forces, the revolutionaries, the liberals, to make a united front against the military. is mohamed morsi who is the very
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faithful son of the muslim brotherhood and he has been described as an enforcer, the guy to do this? i'm not sure. gr do you think there is a way to unite the muslim brotherhood, the liberals, people like that to create a united front? >> there is to some extent, the revolutionaries, the liberals lined up behind morsi because they did not want a sloan of mubarak that could be a representation of the old regime. now the election issoever and revolutionaries have their own demands, liberals have their own demands, and morsi is going to have to juggle their own demands. they can still make trouble, still bring people out to the streets, certainly have proven they can do that's, and leers also going to have to deal for the military looking out for its own interests. this is not going to be an easy thing and may not be a fighting personality that is the best thing to unite a democratic front in egyp right now.
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>> what's was going on for the last two weeks where the military engaged in strange power grabs alt the last minute? >> it's clear the military is not comfortable with ceding its historic role in egypt and we saw an effort to hedge the victory and they issued a constitutional decree as the polls were closing which essentially stripped the president of major powers, they now have the power to veto parts of the draft constitution. they are in essence trying to emulate the role that the turkish military once had in egypt which may play a role, shaping the political arena to the way they prefer it to be. i'm not convinced they're going to be able to do this over the long term, however. >> do you think that the military has the -- i mean, obviously, if you look alt zus public opinion in terms of tahrir square and things like that, people don't like it, but
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it hasn't produced mass protests on the scale of you know, a year and a half ago. >> let's keep in mind that just a week ago, almost half of egyptian photoers voted for a clone of president mubarak. i would go further than you went and say there's probably a large proportion of egyptians who are not only indifferent to the military's assertion of control but may even favor it. so the question is will they be able to do this? it's not -- the reason it's a question is not because we think there will suddenly be mass protests in every village, but because i think as steve was hinting at it, because standing against them is the muslim brotherhood that now occupied the president of the presidency which is a condition of some considerable moral authority and has 500,000 to 2 million members on the streets who are highly committed and willing to do things. >> the military's great concerns people have said is they want to have control over their budget,
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they want to have control over foreign policy in some sense. but they also want to control the sort of vast array of economic interests. >> they have. and the presidency has been the informal linkage between the presidency and the military and their source of power. it stands to reason that the first president will be more economist in securing those interests. its military budget, control over its own personnel, and importantly, that historic role of the military as the central source of power and authority in the system, and i think that's really where the rubber is going to hit the road here. the muslim brother hoom hood is going to seek to replace that and the military is not going to give it up very easily. >> let me ask you, is it such a bad thing that the military is trying to assert its power? at some level, you know, if you look at the development of democracy, it's often been these contests between two powerful groups that force limitations on
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power, the church and the state in the western world. here you have the military trying to check the power of the presidency and the president would presumably try to check the power of the military. should we be worried? >> so, there's two issues hire. in the moral or ethical sense, of course, this is a bad thing for the military to assert any kind of control, controls emerge from the people. at the same time, as i think you're saying, wi have to be realistic. the military as steve has mentioned has been in charge in one way or another in this country for the last 60 years. it is unrealistic to assume that they're suddenly going to relinquish everything and hand over power to a kind of jeffer sewnian democracy, especially one that has just elected mohamed morsi of the muslim brotherhood. >> what about relationships with israel? he said all agreements would be honored, but in the past, he said nasty things about israel?
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flitser important not to be too alarmist at this point, but you're wright. he's been tough, and he's somebody in recent statements, i'm not talking about years ago but days ago, has talked about the need to keep the peace treaty but only if they abide by it. and he's described what he thinks the peace treaty demands. one of the things he thinks is in there is a palestinian state with a jerusalem capital. i think he's somebody who has a different idea about what the conditions of peace of israel are. i think it's very like lal lalyf he's allowed to have influence over foreign affairs, relations with israel will be difficult. >> people say the two countries more razzrattled by the fall of mubarak are israel -- >> they're looking at great concern, but egypt is in no
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position to threaten the israelis right now. even under mubarak. what morsi can do short of breaking the treaty is he can empty egypt slash israel relations that they exist with any content without having to break the treaty. the muslim brotherhood does not believe they have fulfilled the treaty. that's why they're opposed to any normalization with the israelis. >> pleasure to have both of you on. thank you. up next, imagine a system that could fick ngerprint and track nearly a fifth of hue planty. it's not a pipe dream. it's being implemented in ibd yeah. one x from at&t, with its built in beats audio, every note sounds amazingly clear. ...making it easy to get lost in the music... and, well... rio vista?!! [ male announcer ] ...lost.
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imagine creating a system to track 1.2 billion people. photographing them, fingerprinting them, cataloging them, giving the all ids. my next guest is not just imagining that system. he's tasked with making it a reality in india. he's the chairman of india's unique identification authority. his previous claim to fame was as one of the founders of emphasize, india's pioneering technology firm. welcome. >> thank you. >> explain how does one thing about it. let's start with the technical things. you're taking india's entire population, which previously has
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barely been counted and you're going to try to give every single person a biometric id? >> that's right. we have enrolled 200 million people in the last three years since the project began. and we are using the biometrics to give them a unique number so they don't end up having more than one number. what's most important is this is a digital online id. so we'reterici taking many peop taking them to the digital world, like leap frogging of identity. >> why is this so important for india? when one hears about it that the people are supposed to get loans or grants or various things from the government, and moe of it never gets to them, i remember the prime minister saying that after one dollar that we spend on four people on average, the poor person receives 10 cents. and the middlemen take up all of the rest of the money. >> there are two primary drivers
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for this. one is we still have people who don't have a formal identity or ocknowledgement of their existence from the state. and you can't get a bank account or loan, can't get your entitlements, can't get a job, can't get into a house. so everything is linked to your basic identity. you can think of it as a massive inclusion program to get the poor and the marginalized into the formal economy. the other part is that the government spends something like $60 billion a year on entitlements and benefits to billi millions of people and they need to make sure it reaches the right people. by having the id system, we can make sure that people's scholarships, pensions, go to the right person. it makes the government expenditure more efficient and equitable and it's a massive inclusion exercise. >> how difficult it is?
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you were an aunt ru pentreprene space in india that is famously free of regulation. >> they're quite supportive. >> now you're in the heart of government. how much more difficult is it to deal with the bureaucracies -- what is worse, the bureaucratic opisticals or the political obstacles? >> in the private sector, the convincing is much less. you convince your investors, your analysts, whatever. in the public space, you're answerable to a lot more stake holders. the government, parliament, bureaucracy, activists, journalists, the investigators, you know, so i think what i have learned is that the amount of time you invest in evangelizing and consensus building is hugely much more in the public space, and crafting a strategy which is
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sort of acceptable to everybody takes a great deal of time. that's the big difference to me between the two. >> do you think that you will face obstacles as you try to do this to do this because there will be people who are disempowered? i mean after all, when you provide these benefits to people, it used to be that there would be a village chieftain who was the intermediary, who would take away some of the benefits, bank managers. this seems to be the largest act of disintermediation that i can think of. >> sure. once we have millions of bank accounts and people's money goes there electronically and fully auditable, it obviously changes the empowerment game. there could be some people who are disenfranchised by this. look at the fact $200 million
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will get empowered, they'll become the allies for this change. so our goal is with any change there will be opposition. this goes 600 years back. but for example, because we use the banking system, it will support this. we create allies. finally the people themselves. if they see their lives improvi improving, they'll be the best supporters of this. >> you came to international fame as the man to told tom friedman the world is flat. >> well it is the first page of the book. >> do you look at the landscape of these emerging markets that you were talking about and the way in which they had all these competitive advantages or at least an equal level playing field and do you think something has changed because you are seeing a slowing down of the bricks, you are seeing india's slowed down, china's slowed down, brazil has slowed down, rsh v russia is slowing down. there are areas of cheap capital
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where everyone is booming. have you hit a brick wall? >> i think certainly messages that i think -- there's one side of, but as you also said, it is about institutions, about having a level playing field, it is about regulation, it is about creating easy entry of entrepreneurs, competition. then the things gets much more complex. that's why a lot of these countries are facing those challenges of migrating to that way. >> are you bullish about them as well? >> absolutely. i think fundamentals have not changed. there may be some tactical issue but fundamentals have not changed. we'll be right back. every communications provider is different but centurylink is committed to being a different kind of communications company. ♪
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happy birthday. i'll spare you the singing, but today is a big day for the international criminal court. it turns 10. i'm sure the hague is throwing a big bash. the birthday brings me to my question of the week -- how many verdicts has the international criminal court handed down over the past decade? is it, a, one, b, five, c, seven, or d, 5. stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. go to cnn.com/fareed for more of the gps challenge and great content from the global public square.
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if you ever miss a show or gps special, go to itunes.com/fareed. this week's book of the week is -- land of promise, an economic history of the united states. by michael lind, one of the founders of the new america foundation. lind is a highly intelligent thinker and writer and he's given us a revealing history of the american economy. emphasizing the crucial role that the state has played in making america an economic super power. it will unsettle many of your cherished beliefs. now for the last look. south korean and american troops storming a beach, by sea, by air. shells exploding overhead as amphibious vehicles race toward the beach. no, the world hasn't finally run out of patience with north korea. this was just a drill. but the date of the drill was telling. june 25th. doesn't ring a bell? it is the 62nd anniversary of the start of korean war.
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to add to the symbolism, smoke bombs dropped in the shape of a "v" for victory. the correct answer to our gps challenge question was -- a. there has been just one verdict handed down by the international criminal court. the sole verdict was guilty one against a former rebel leader in the democratic republic of the congo. he was convicted of abducting children and forcing them to serve as child soldiers. 15 cases have been brought before the court. all of them also from africa. critics say almost $1 billion and ten years should buy more than one verdict. oh -- and remember, the u.s. is currently not a party to the international criminal court. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. hello, everyone.
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i'm poppy harlow. dangerous conditions in the northeast. trees and power lines are littering streets after violent storms ripped through the region this weekend. on top of that, record breaking heat ise iine ining life threatening conditions for more hand 2 1/2 million people without power and air conditioning for a second straight day. heat is also an issue for firefighters battling the waldo canyon fire near colorado springs. more high temperatures and strong winds are expected today. the fire has forced thousands of people from their homes. many are expected to go back and see the damage firsthand starting today. >> i've just been like a mess because those are people's lives and we're watching it and so, yeah, my heart just goes out to them. >> even in the middle of all of this loss and sadness, there is some hope. one couple decides to go ahead with their wedding even