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with it, a shutout. 21-0. they've finally beaten the team they lost so much to in 2008. >> yay! i'll tell you what, i asked for a signature win, and that was nice right there. >> yes, sir. >> what was that? four takeaways? >> i've got to win. that's what i want. >> i'm chasing my dreams right now. that it's what i want to do. >> coach k on hoops, his country and why he wants players with attitude. >> i want them to bring their egos. the more egos you have, the more
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powerful a team you can have. >> the games, the glory, the pride of america. this is a "piers morgan tonight" fourth of july special. good evening. and happy fourth of july. what better way to celebrate america's independence than by honoring the country's independent athletes. in just a few weeks they will be on the world stage in london competing for gold with billions watching. in the next hour, we'll hear their stories in their own words. it's revealing, moving, surprising and inspiring. we begin with allison felix, one fastest women in the world. she's winning headlines with the way she made it to the olympic team. allyson felix and jennifer were tied and were going to have a runoff until jennifer pulled out.
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how are you feeling? >> i just can't wait. >> is it like being a racehorse. is everything so finely tuned? all geared up for an explosive new moments? >> it is. you do all this training for 21 seconds. it's very quick. >> i want to take you back to probably the worst moment of your life. 2008, beijing olympics, up against your old enemy from jamaica. i don't want to say it because it hurts too much. you ran 21.93. she ran 21.74. 0.17 of a second. how many times have you relived that 0.17 of a second? >> i feel every day since then. i'm always thinking about it at
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practice. i don't want to get that thought out of my head because it does motivate me. but it's tough. >> you've won a gold in the relay. you've won all the world titles and won everything else.
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but in the end, the 200 meters is your thing. and you've got this incredible rival who keeps beating you when it really matters. this is it, isn't it? london olympics, you're at the peak of your power. you've got to win this. >> i've got to win. that's what it's all about. like you said, i've done this other stuff. this is the one missing thing pit's what i really want. i need everything to come together at the right type. >> tell me about the drive and the hunger that it takes to be a real olympic champion. >> it's something i feel like i was born with. i'm just competitive. it doesn't matter what it is. that carries over to the track. i'm determined. so having these silver medals, i'm thinking about it and it drives many e. i want that gold. >> what are the sacrifices? what are you not allowed to do? >> you have to cut down on all your social activities. even family things. everything is so structured. you're training, you're trying to eat right and get your rest. that's very important. >> no dougnuts. >> well, i have a problem with those thing. i like to splurge every now and then.
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>> even in your height of training, are you allowed to have binge eating days? >> yes, you are. we're regular people, too. for me, i have to reward myself. i love powered sugar doughnuts and ice cream. >> you said you like chicken nuggets. >> i love ben and jerry's oatmeal cookie chunk and often i'm going back to it. >> is it true there's like this group wide sex ban on the entire american team before the olympics. >> i didn't know about that. >> essentially none of you are allowed to do anything like that. >> well, the village is a >> so it's completely rubbish. >> i never heard about it but i'm very focused. >> you are a god faring young lady. >> i am. >> you believe the power of prayer drives you to great heights. when you kneel down to go for that gold, which is going to be a combination of probably your entire sprinting career this moment, because i know it means more to you than anything else. when you're kneeling down, what are you going to be saying? who are you thinking of? >> i'm praying to god. and of course, i want to win. but it's more about, you know, i want top represent him well. i want to run for his glory. if that means me not winning, then i want to be able to handle that and handle it with grace.
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it's all of those things. >> you feel nervous? do you feel excited in that moment? how are you going to be feeling? >> mixed emotions. >> wet. it will be raining in london. >> it always is. i'll be nervous. of course, i'm always nervous. it will be weird if i wasn't. but excited. i waited now eight years for another chance at a gold medal. so i'm twice silver. and it's tough. it's tough waiting. so i can't wait for that moment again. >> when you're on the podium, you won the gold for the relay, are you still thinking this is great, but it's not the same? >> it's not the same. you have those feelings. you feel kind of bad about it. you have this gold medal around your neck and you're is grateful, you know, but you want an individual medal. you want to do it by yourself. >> who's been the greatest inspiration to you? personally and professionally? >> personally, my family. they made sacrifices, the whole deal so i could have success. >> you're glamorous. >> thank you. >> not all sprinters scrub up like you. i would imagine for the sponsors and all of it, they're desperate for you to win? >> we all are. i'm just in it as they are. so yeah. >> you think about that? you think about the commercial benefit to winning the gold? >> definitely. it's my career and i want to take advantage of as much as i can. it's just about everything coming together at the right time. so i hope that it will. >> got a man in your life he for the sprint? >> i hope he's for the long term. he unls what is i do and he's pretty cool about it. >> what does he do? >> he's done a little running. but he's transitioning out of it and getting ready for the next phase of his life. >> wedding bells? >> i don't know. after the 200 final, we'll talk about it. >> are you more or less likely to win him if you win gold? >> i'm going to be in such a good mood, that's when he should ask me. >> i would choose the moment 10 seconds after he won.
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you would do anything, wouldn't you? >> i bet we would. >> let's take a break. i want to come back and talk to you about drugs in sport. i know you've got strong feelings about this. and i recently interviewed marion jones. >> and so it is with a great amount of shame that i stand before you and tell you that i have betrayed your trust. i want you to know that i have been dishonest.
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>> got a man in your life. >> i do, i got a man. >> is he for the long-term or is he for the sprint? >> i hope he's for the long term. he unls what is i do and he's pretty cool about it. >> what does he do? >> he's done a little running. but he's transitioning out of it and getting ready for the next phase of his life. >> wedding bells? >> i don't know. after the 200 final, we'll talk about it. >> are you more or less likely to win him if you win gold? >> i'm going to be in such a good mood, that's when he should ask me. >> i would choose the moment 10 seconds after he won. you would do anything, wouldn't you? >> i bet we would. >> let's take a break. i want to come back and talk to you about drugs in sport. i know you've got strong feelings about this. and i recently interviewed marion jones. >> and so it is with a great hey america, even though they don't need one, wes, clay and demarcus tried on
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>> and so it is with a great amount of shame that i stand before you and tell you that i have betrayed your trust. i want you to know that i have been dishonest. and you have the right to be angry with me.
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>> marion jones stripped of her gold medals in 2007. we're back now with olympic champion allyson felix. what do you think when you see someone so brilliant like marion jones at your discipline and then just get exposed as a cheat and sees her world collapse? when you think of her story what do you think of it? >> it's disappointing, especially for me. when i got into traffic and field, she was everywhere. i was high school when she was in the 2000 games. she was my idol. so to see that video, it just brings back emotions. it was devastating for me. i just adored her. >> do you have any sympathy for her? >> it's very hard for me to have sympathy, i don't know. just because i know what it takes, the training, the dedication. and she was just so talented, she didn't need it. >> that's the point i made to her. when i interviewed her recently, said you would have won anyway.
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you were so much better than the rest of the field. she knew. i got the feeling she knew she had made a catastrophic mistake for no reason. >> i'm sure. >> which is ten times worse>> it's hard. she's always been so talented. maybe she shouldn't have gotten all of those medals, but she would have gotten some of them. >> how prevalent are drugs today in sprinting? because there was a period when you just assumed that everybody was on it. >> hopefully it's not as bad as it has been in the past, but to be honest, it's still around. >> do you have suspicions about some of your rivals? >> well, of course. yeah. i think that's the tough thing about track & field is when you watch it, there's some things that are very obvious. >> like what? >> like your body changing. running times that are -- having huge drops in times. those are things that aren't natural. when there's a progression like that, it's -- it raises some suspicion. i think it's, you know, it's only natural. >> when you line up for the 200 meter final, how many people in that race could be cheats?
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>> wow, that's a tough question. i don't -- >> the worst of your suspicions. >> i think there could be a few. >> how does that make you feel? >> it's hard. it's frustrating. >> what if one of these cheats runs through and beats you. >> i don't know how i would handle that, you know? but the hard part is suspicion. and i would hate to accuse someone who's working just as hard as me. it's a fine balance. but in the end you have to have peace for yourself and be doing it for yourself. >> have you ever been tempted? you must be awash with people trying to force illegal drugs on athletes. >> you know what, i haven't. i think it's part of my upbringing, that's part of the reason. and even the marion jones story. i idolized her .i know how it felt when it came out that she was cheating. i would never want to put someone in that situation, ever. and then i also don't let track define me. i love this sport but i'm not willing to risk my life, i'm not willing to risk anything else,
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you know, just to win. >> good for you. >> thank you. >> let's turn to happier things, your dog. tell me about your dog. >> i have a dog, her name is chloe. >> you communicate by skype. how does that work with a dog? >> she's smart, i tell you. >> when i travel, she stays with my mom. she puts her up on the camera. she just has a great time. >> good luck in the olympics. the. it's going to be a huge moment for you, isn't it? >> it is, yeah. >> how are you going to feel flying the flag for america at some a big moment? >> so proud. it's an honor. when i put on that jersey, there's nothing like it. i don't want to make everyone at home proud. i want to do that. >> do you feel collectively, the american athletes have a chance to put america right on top of the map again. america has had a rough ride recently. maybe not stand up and beat your chest and show the chinese who's raem bos?
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>> definitely. it's an opportunity. we're so proud and excited and so ready for this moment. >> if you win, what's the plan after that once you achieved your great aim? >> oh, my gosh, i have no plan. i just want to win. i have a degree in elementary education. i would love to get in the classroom. just be around kids and do something with hem. that's something i'm passionate about. >> you're involved in project believe. >> you commit yourself for more testing, more blood work. just to show you're a complete athlete. if i can step up and say i'm going to go beyond what's required, that's something that's important to me. >> is that the way to tack this will? >> i think it's tough. situations like marion, she never failed a drug test. but i think it's the step in the right direction. you're saying that you would go above and beyond. i think right now, that's a positive thing. >> if i was running, i would just test every athlete every day. it would be part of their daily
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routine, getting up, having their oatmeal, have a bit of truth, take their little test. that would root it out, wouldn't it? >> you would have to be a very rich man. but i think you have that covered. >> best of luck for it. we're willing you for victory because there's no brit that can beat you. >> i'm safe. >> so that is my criteria. one thing that strikes me about you, it's very interesting. i interview lots of people on the show, very few have exuded the confidence that you have. >> thank you. >> are all athletes like that? do you have to have that streak of confidence? >> i think it's part of it. you have to know you can go toe to toe with the person next to you. you also do all this training. so you better be confident. >> is there a message there for americans who have been going through a rough time? a lot of this comes from self-discipline, from hard work, from clean living. you know, there is an argument to say if more people behave like athletes in their lives,
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america would be an n a pretty good position. >> i think that's a good point. it's a journey, there's ups and downs. i think my career is testimony to that. it's not always going to be great. you're going to have slumps. but if you continue on what you've always been doing and working hard, hopefully things will come around. >> aye got two hands here. one has a check for $10 million and one has the olympic gold medal for the 200 meters, you can have at the end of the race. you want both? >> i can't. >> which one are you going to take? >> i'm taking the gold. >> best of luck. >> thank you. >> allyson felix. see you in london. next up, a man from the bronx who was born to be an olympian. ♪ [ male announcer ] ok, so you're no marathon man. but thanks to the htc one x from at&t,
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we're celebrating the fourth of july with the pride of america. john orozco's road to london came from a tough childhood and a family trying to make ends meet in the bronx. he's an extraordinary young man. you've been described as a 5'4" power ball. >> wow. that's nice. >> is that true? >> i guess, yeah. >> is that how you see yourself? >> i see myself as a normal
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19-year-old kid. >> who just happens to be a gold medal contending power ball? >> yeah, i guess. >> when you say normal, one of your coaches said about you, i have never seen any athlete with so much raw talent. john is like the michael jordan and lebron james of gymnastics, he's is that good. >> i never thought anyone would compare me to those two great athletes in the sport that they represent. you know, i'm just -- i'm just trying to follow my dream and do what i love to do. >> let's go back to the bronx, where you're from in new york. not the best place in the world to grow up. everyone would agree with that. yet it's produced many outstanding people. tell me about your early life in the bronx. what was it like? >> growing up in the bronx, especially as a gymnast, not easy. i got teased a lot as a kid.
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you know, a lot of back handed jokes a lot of negativity thrown at me as a kid. >> what would be being a gymnast mean in the bron snx what would they tease you about? what would they say to you? >> they would say a gymnast? what are you gay? that's nice, you go around flipping like a cheerleader? what is that going to do. >> not masculine? >> no. definitely not the masculine thing to be into. >> and yet the irony of what you do, it's one of the toughest disciplines of physical strength in world sport. >> it's just that they didn't understand what it took to be a gymnast, to be a world class gymnast. they didn't understand. and i knew that. that's why i wouldn't get mad. i would just simply say okay, i can throw a baseball, i can shoot a basketball, kick a soccer ball. let's see you do a back handspring.
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and their eyes would be like what? i said now you understand because it's just that they can't relate. it's not something that everyone can just go in the gym, do double flip, double twist and stick. >> i watch it and i can't imagine why anybody would want to do. the strength, danger, all of it. you guys are crazy. >> it is a little odd. >> why gymnastics? was it something you saw on television? was there somebody out there that you idolized? why gymnastics? >> i took gymnastics because it's one of the most challenging sports in the world and that's what i love about it. it's such a great challenge. and i remember ach watching the 2000 olympic games and seeing the gymnastics team compete and remembering, i want to do that one day. you know? i remember sitting with my family and thinking wow, that's -- this is the greatest thing i've ever seen, you know?
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and then my dad got me into it when i was 8 years old. he works for the department of sanitation. so he came in -- he was on the job one day in the city, he picked up a flyer for free gymnastics tryouts in the nearby gymnasium in the city. so he brought it home. i was already in tae kwon do competing and stuff. he brought it home, discussed it with my mother over dinner. the next day he brought me into the gym. i remember before i got into is the gym, i could hear the noises, the bar squeaking, people landing on their feet on the maps and just loud slamming noises. i got so excited walking in. >> you just knew. >> i just knew. i felt it. i knew it was happening, and my dad spoke to the owner. and i was 8 years old. the gym class was supposed to be for 9 years old and up. he said i'm sorry, we can't have your son trite out.
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he's not old enough. he said come onner please. everywhere i go, he's trying to do hand stands. he said give me a chance. so he gave me that chance and i'm so sgrafl that he did because that's the moment i knew i loved this sport. >> so your parents were very dedicated to you. your mom used to drive you often for a three-commute from the bronx, one of the roughest parts of new york to west chester, the posh end. which is two completely different worlds. >> yeah, it is. >> how did unfortunate when you were in the transit for three hours? you're going from one place to somewhere completely different. >> yeah. i'm glad i got to train in westchester. the bronx is my home, it's where i live. i feel comfortable. >> what are some good things about the bronx. it gets a bad rap. what are the good parts of you
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that you think come from being a bronx guy? >> look at my parents. they crazed -- raised me to be the man i am now. it's not so bad. my neighborhood is by the bronx river by the water. i can see manhattan across the river actually. it's only as bad as you make it ute to be. and going from there to west chester is a lot different. people are different, but i saw them all as people. i treat everyone with respect, treat everyone the same. >> did you get into fights as a kid in the bronx? did everyone have to fight? >> no. it's not a boxing match every time you walk out of your house. but we did -- it was a sad day. we were actually coming from my brother's confirmation at church on sunday and my brother, one of
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my older brothers his name is emanuel. and we got into a little spif going home and it spiralled out of control so quickly. i don't even really remember it. but we were going home one day that day and we -- it started out as an arguen't and it got into a physical altercation and all of a sudden, not even exaggerating, there were 30 guys, 20 guys that showed up and started showing up and attacking all of us. there were four of us. i was 10 years old at the time. my brother was 12, 20 and 27. and i mean, 30 versus 4. and the cops were called by pedestrians. they saw sightings of a gun throughout the whole rumble, nooifs. >> knives as well? >> my brother was attacked pretty badly and he had to spend a few days in the hospital.
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>> was he stabbed? >> no, thanks god. >> what did it teach you, the incident? >> that life is unpredictable and you can't hold on to that. i let it go in the past, and i don't think about it now. it's not something that i keep with me, if i did, it would destroy me. >> you got out of the bronx now. you moved elsewhere. your parents have both suffered from ill health and stuff, do you see in the future a life for them out of the bron snx. >> absolutely. the whole reason that i got so serious about gymnastics was to make a better life for myself and my family.
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that's what i set out to do since i made this commitment to myself to make the olympic team and reach my goals and dreams. and one day i'm going to do it. it's a lot of pressure, but i'll take it on. >> they tell a very moving story of when you got your first paycheck. you came back and you gave it all to your parents and said that's to help pay off the mortgage. they both found that a profoundly moving moment in their lives and a kind of vindication of all the effort they made for you, that they produced this kid who would do that. >> ever since i was little, the number one priority for me was helping out my family any way i can. i knew we weren't doing good financially. i remember i started bagging at the grocery store when i was 13 years old and getting just little chump change and bringing it home saying i got this money.
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it was $3 in total. then i actually started working at 14 at my gym and brought home the first paycheck and said here mom, put this towards the mortgage and everything. i don't care what i was doing or what was happening around mee. all i cared about was my family and making sure everything is okay. that's why i do gymnastics now, to make a better life for them. i want to make sure no one in my family has to worry about anything ever again. i don't want any financial worries, i don't want any kind of burdens to be restricting us in that way. and that's what keeps me motivated in gymnastics. >> john, just hold that thought and we'll come back after the break. briefs for charity briefs for charity to prove how great the fit is even under a fantastic dress. the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. we invite you to get a free sample and try one on too.
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>> right now, pride of america, talking to some of the country's
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>> right now, pride of america, talking to some of the country's finest athletes on their way to london to compete before the break. i talked to john orozco competing in men's gymnastics. here's more of that interview. >> what does it take to be as good as you are at what you do? >> i would say it takes a lot of will power. and a lot of sacrifice and a lot of self-motivation. you're not going to walk in every day and feel like it's a great day and you want to get all this stuff done and feeling all jolly, jolly, you know? >> what are you? 19? >> 19. >> i have an older son who's 19. he likes to go clubbing in london, drinking a few beers,
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chatting up a few women. this is not a world you're allowed food, right? >> it's not. but the way i see it, i'm chasing my dreams right now and i'm doing what i love to do. and there will be time for that after i achieve my goals and my dreams. so in the future i can enjoy all those things. >> if you perform at your absolute best, what can you achieve in london?
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>> i think if i do my absolute best, i think i might have a chance at being on the medal stop, top three in all-around. that's my goal. and also my individual goal, it's the same as a team goal. we want to get up there. the americans top three at least on the podium stand. >> if you win a gold, how is that going to make you feel, a boy from the bronx winning an olympic gold medal, standing on that podium, the american national anthem playing? >> that would be a dream come true. that would mean that everything i've suffered through has finally been worth it. i think that would be the moment that my life would change? >> it would be an emotional moment for you, huh? >> definitely an emotional moment for me.
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and my family. >> that would mean their life has changed and my family's life would change right in that moment. >> you're a good looking young man. i'm told you're one of the more popular characters in the olympic team with the ladies. >> really? >> that's what i'm hearing. mao are you going to deal with the attention coming your way when you go to the olympics and possibly win a gold medal. are you red dir if the screaming women and people chasing you down the street? >> oh, yeah. as far as women, i'm not going to look for the love of my life. if it's meant to happen, it will happen. she'll find me or i'll find her. but a the media and all the attention, i think it's going to be fun. you know? i can't let it stress me out. >> and if you win the gold, can you imagine what those guys who teased you back in the bronx are going to be thinking? will pictures of their faces shoot up in your face as you stand there? >> no, no, never. >> a tiny little bit of told you? >> no. >> come on, it will be a little bit. >> no, i don't think so. i'm not a vengeful person. >> not vengeful, but more like vindication? >> maybe a little bit. it will be just more like now you understand. now you understand? you know.
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not so much i told you so. but i think people will real lie now, everyone that's told me that i couldn't do what i was trying to do or try to tease me about what i loved and try to take what i loved and crushed my spirit with it, they'll all realize now. this was never a joke. this was never something to be teased about. >> final question, what does being an american mean to you? >> being an american? >> it means that i get to enjoy life in the best country in the world as i see it. >> going through the olympics and wear the usa on my back proudly. represent my whole country, my family, everyone is -- it's going to be a great honor. and i can't wait. >> john, all the best. see you in london.
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cope mike krzyzewski knows how to get the best out of hi players. coach k is returning to the olympics with his dream team. and with lessons to go far beyond the games, i sat down with him. coach k, i know how important you are because everybody on my staff when they heard we were doing coach k got excited. whoa, coach k. why are you such a big deal? >> you must have a lot of polish people on your staff. it means everything is going to go great here. >> you have an incredible reputation based on one of the greatest sporting careers. what does it mean to you to have that reputation? >> i've been lucky to be at place where is their brand helped me right away. i graduated from west point, coached there. got a pretty good brand. then my guest gig is duke university, which has a global brand. and a good one.
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and then i'm the coach of the u.s. national team that has a really good brand. so i've been on teams that make me look a lot better, let's put it that way. >> you've swon 903 college games. it's outrageous. >> it means i'm old and have good teams. >> it must also mean you hate losing so much you try to avoid it at all cost ps. >> that's a good point. i think i hate losing more than i enjoy winning. but i think competitors in every sport, if you asked them, they would all agree that the loss, the feeling of a loss, that depth, i don't know if you can ever reach it in height with a win. so you try to a void that feeling as much as possible. >> you in many ways have the easiest job in the olympic setup and the hardest. we know it's the hardest because we know what happened in athens, the debacle of coming in third. i like basketball, it's my favorite american sport. when you have a team running out
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that includes lebron james and kobe bryant, it is almost impossible to imagine a scenario
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where you don't win olympic gold, and yet we saw in athens the doomsday can happen. why do you think that happened in athens? and what are you going to do to stop it from happening in london? when the whole world assumes you're going to win gold quite easily? >> well, the very first thing is you don't go with assumptions. you go with reality. the reality is 20% of the nba is international. the reality is we did lose in athens, we did lose in indianapolis in the world championships. we did lose in japan we've lost. it's not like we haven't lost. we expect to win, we want to win, but we have to prepare like we expect to win, not like we assume we expect to win. >> you have all these disparate great players and the greatest squad imaginable. kobe and i guess lebron would be
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among the top five basketball players in history. so you're in a great position. i'm interested in how you deal with ego.
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when these guys are top dogs in their teams, absolutely fearless. i've seen lebron. he's unbelievable. i've seen kobe at the lakers. the same there. but they are number one. how do you deal with them coming together? how do you get it to gel and come together and have to share that status. >> you're honest with them. you set standards how you're going to live with one another. you look each other in the eye, you always tell each other the fruit truth. i don't believe the expression, leave your egos at the door. i want them to bring their egos in. when we leave that room, we go out with a collective ego which says united states basketball. a. >> tell me about america, what it means to you. you're the son of polish immigrants in this country. clearly it's been great for you and your family. tell me about that. >> i still believe an american dream. my grandparents came from and i see it primarily in education. because the educational opportunities afforded to those people are not -- not nearly as good as the wealthy. >> and the tragedy of that is there's so much untapped talent, not least of which in sport. the kids drifting into gangs, jail, whatever it may be. if they are driven out of our education system, it doesn't nurture them, how can we blame them? >> intellect does not know race, color, nationality, gender. there are smart people, like, i think i'm fairly smart.
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i grew up in a polish community in chicago. if my parents didn't have the stick to ittiveness to make sure i got an education young, there's no way this would happen. we have to take kids at other ages or else they take their intellect to other areas. i think solving educational problems helps solve some of our crime problems. >> you've become in many ways a surrogate parent to these kids. >> why he. >> what are the values you like to instill in them? >> the main thing is to be truthful when you're honest with one another. if you can develop trust, to me that's the key ingredient in any relationship. if you trust, then a lot of things can happen. and respect for -- have ownership, where you're not playing for me.
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we're playing together. that type of thing. and i try to instill those values in my team, not just my duke team, but our national team. >> finally, i can't think of a better person to ask this. you've seen so many players come and go. you've worked with the greatest basketball players, the greatest sportsmen in many cases america has ever seen. what does it take to be a champion over a long period of time? >> you have to have talent, and you can't have a rearview mirror. you can't live in the past and you can't be someone who rationalizes that since you've done it before, it's, at that moment of training or that
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moment of competition, where it would be all right to lose. you have to be a real next-play person. take the experiences you've had and winning with you. knot none of the rationalization. but when you do, it's an incredible feeling. and then you separate yourself from those who would not do that. and that's part of sport.
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>> you put me in the dressing room just before the first game. >> the first game? >> in london, and looking around
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tonight's only in america. the true olympic spirit. win or lose, a real hero knows ending your career with grace is just as important as all of the medals you win alongle way. she knew her come back was a long shot and when she failed to make the team, she retired this time for good. she explained why she thinks it's all been worthwhile. >> there is a little pressure, but there's not that much because this is all icing for me. it's never going to change what i've accomplished. they're not going to take my medals away. >> you can slightly tarnish the legacy, in atlanta you had an amazing moment.
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you handed the torch to mohammed ali. he's an astonishing iconic figure. but he fought too long. when you see somebody like as as a sportsman yourself, is it a lesson to just know when to stop? >> i think we don't know when to stop. i think it's in our souls. i think it's a part of who we are. and if any of us think we have a fighting chance, it's what we do. >> most experts would say at 40 you can't reach quite those heights. if you get beaten badly how are you going to feel? >> i'm going to feel okay. you know that i'm a huge competitor and i don't like to lose. >> even when your husband beats you at words with friends you don't talk with him all night. >> i'm a competitor. at the end of the day i go home