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story. the only person who couldn't would be someone driving the car would have to hear it on the radio. everyone would know it instantly through sources. it is all this incredible, what it must be to be young today. what an adventure. >> larry king, thank you so much. good luck with your internet venture, by the way. it is amazing how things are changing. larry king. thanks, larry. let's roll it. top of the next hour. hour number two. welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. house republicans are forcing another vote on the president's health care reforms. this is attempt number 33 to kill obama care. in the words of a house democrat this is their boil the bunny moment. democrats say the republicans need to move on.
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no points for the movie reference either. let's get to a question of why another vote to repeal obama care. it is an instant death in the senate so why do this? >> you just have to look at the calendar to answer the question. we talk about it so much now that so much of what they do particularly here in congress at this point is because of politics. if you look at the polls it shows that this country has been split along party lines since the inception of this legislation. what republicans and democrats want to do is to get out the vote and get out the base and explain how important this is. i want you to listen to some of the debate we have heard on both sides during this. >> welcome to groundhog day in the house of representatives. this majority needs to stop
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working to put american families at risk, start working to make our economy healthy. >> the american people don't want it. the longer people have to know this bill the more intense they are in wanting to see it repealed. >> it is time for republicans to end their obsession with taking wair health care benefits. >> we should take away and repeal it. the voters get the last word in november. >> no truer words have been said. the voters do get the last word in november and that is what this debate for the 33rd time since the health care law was passed. >> to your point about that in november we heard republican congressmen say this debate will be decided then. that is really the republican's prescription for killing obama
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care. >> that is right. let's look at what it means and more specifically how the republicans could actually put their money where their mouth is and repeal this law. it won't be easy. it is possible. they would have to keep control of the house. get control of the senate at least 51 votes and get control of the white house. mitt romney would have to win. they would have to have a clean sweep in november in order to overturn the health care law. if you listen to the debate and watch the press releases and see what they are trying to tell the people home that is why republicans are doing this to try to make the base understand how important it is that they can't stay home and then the question of independent voters. it doesn't look like they are going to be swayed very much by this debate. they look at it as other's do which is congress spinning its wheels saying the same thing over and over again. i want to make one point. it is not just republicans doing this. democrats had vote after vote after vote on things like
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bringing the troops home from the iraq war. it was politics then just like now. >> politics at play. and speaking of obama care mitt romney usually gets cheers for saying he wants to repeal it but not today in front of a very different kind of audience that he usually draws. black voters at the naacp convention in houston. >> i'm going to eliminate every nonessential expensive program i can find that includes obama care and i'm going to work to reform and save -- >> jim acosta was in the room for that. i don't know how loud the boos everb rated. he got some moments of applause. how is camp romney responding? >> it was very interesting to watch. you played the boos that came
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after mitt romney talked about repealing the president's health care law. that booing went on for 15 seconds. if i'm not mistaken and i asked a lot of reporters who covered the campaign that is the most prolonged negative response mitt romney has gotten to one of the lines in his speech that we have seen so far in this campaign. it was a pretty severe response. he did receive applause at other points. he talked about defending what he called traditional marriage, a hint at his opposition to gay marriage. that is an issue that has divided the naacp. he did get cheers from evangelical leaders. this was not the best reaction that the romney campaign probably wanted. they did talk about it afterwards. reporters went up to tara wall, ahead of outreach to the african american community for the romney campaign. she said there were boos and
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also applause. we counted more moments of applause than boos and a standing ovation at the end. it was about half the audience that was standing at the end giving what was a standing ovation to mitt romney. it was a very mixed reaction and at times a very reaction to what he had to say. >> i want to bring up a tweet we saw from cnn contributor. he is a former speech writer for george w. bush. i would wonder whether the romney campaign wanted to be booed at the naacp. that whole line, could he maybe been aiming at his own base with that one? >> i asked the romney campaign that very question when we had a chance to talk with them. they did not respond to that question but were peppered with so many questions i think they were having trouble answering all of them. they didn't have time to answer all of them. i will say that mitt romney did
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get a lot of conservative props on twitter and social media for coming to this group and sticking to his principles and policy positions. he did not tailor his speech. he said he would repeal the president's signature legislative achievement, that is the health care law and tipped off a number of other iemts. and so even the leadership of the naacp that i talked to after this event were saying mitt romney showed a lot of courage in coming here today. >> speaking of props you eluded to this. this is something in which romney got a much better response. take a listen. >> any policy that lifts up and honors the family is going to be good for the country and that must be our goal. as president i will promote strong families and i will defend traditional marriage.
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>> he tapped into this strain of religious conservatism in the black community much better tactic. >> this worked for george w. bush in 2004. he carried 11% of the african american vote in 2004. that hurt john kerry in places like ohio where there is a large evangelical african american community. you will recall president bush was very much going after the voters trying to appeal to the voters to try to carve off or peel off a sliver here and there of the african american vote and it helped him in the end in 2004. no idea whether or not that was the determining factor in that race but it certainly helped him and mitt romney may be doing some of that by going after some of these issues. he talked about saving traditional marriage as he called it and talked about school choice which is another issue that appeals to some
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members of the naacp. >> he likes to talk about education. thank you very much. we just got in live pictures in. let's look at this together thanks to our affiliate. you are looking at a live rescue that is underway here. there is a construction worker stuck and i'm looking at this with you. i don't know if we can see him. this is a trench you are looking at. there is someone stuck in this trench trapped about five feet underground. this is detroit's west side. this has been going on for the better part of the last hour. we are told according to our affiliate he was doing some sewer work and the dirt collapsed on him. so that is why he is stuck. we are told he is alert. he is talk. you see a number of these guys working to get him out. time is not on their side. he has been talking to these emergency crews and we are told
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at one point you can see him with the shovel going the old fashioned way getting the dirt out that way. i don't know if that is him in that white tank top. we are not sure which one he is if we can see him in this live picture. at one point he was up to his neck in dirt and cement. so let's keep watching and see if we can tell which guy he is. i'm looking at a bunch of people on the screen, rescue crews hoping to get this construction worker freed. we will keep an eye on it. as soon as we start seeing a rescue we will bring it to you. a lot more unfolding this hour. watch this. crisis is unfolding as the economy is unraveling. and parents are leaving kinds baby hatches. the news is now. a scare in the air. >> i thought we were going to
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die. >> just before landing an american flight takes a frightening turn. plus where is jesse jackson jr.? he disappeared for personal reasons. some are demanding answers. and new revelations involving the man who apparently killed himself in court just moments after hearing his fate. we are not only hearing of a secret e-mail but a discovery inside his car. ♪ [ male announcer ] ok, so you're no marathon man. but thanks to the htc one x from at&t, with its built in beats audio, every note sounds amazingly clear. ...making it easy to get lost in the music... and, well... rio vista?!! [ male announcer ] ...lost. introducing the musically enhanced htc one x from at&t.
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richest men in the world. she was born in america. and now she has been found dead inside this couple's london mansion and he has been arrested for questioning. this mystery of hanz and eva rousing in london. how was eva rousing's body even found? >> basically hanz was pulled over for driving erratically yesterday afternoon. police arrested him for suspension of drug possession. when they went to search their home, a six story home they found the body of eva rousing in an upstairs bedroom. police say they do not know the cause of death and how long the body had been there. they then arrested hanz rousing for questioning in connection with the murder -- excuse me, it is not a murder. at this point her death is
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simply unexplained. they sent her body in for an autopsy to try to determine the cause of death and they are looking to see whether or not they can have a definitive answer. >> they don't know at all. but we do know that they come from -- both of them come from quite wealthy back grounds. tell me if this is fair to qualify this sketchy back grounds. >> they are both known as devoted philanthropists and had a reputation for hard core drug use. they met in rehab. in 2008 both were arrested on possession of heroin and crack cocaine and were only found out when eva rousing attempted to enter a party and trying to smuggle in drugs. this was a couple notorious for drug use. >> did they fight? were there domestic problems? >> no.
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in fact they were known to be devoted to each other but many worried that they were enabling each other in their addiction. the fear is that perhaps she lost her battle with drug addiction and hanz rousing appears to be involved in his own battles with addiction and was found wandering the streets of london. >> we will wait to see what the coroner sees. thank you so much. dozens of children dying for mysterious reasons. it has baffled doctors until now. dr. sanjay gupta is there breaking the news. the mystery has been solved. part of the reason involves what doctors gave those children. don't miss sanjay's reporter from cambodia. great shot.
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we now know what caused more than 60 children to die of this mysterious illness in cambodia. no new cases have been confirmed since last saturday and our dr. sanjay gupta is in cambodia covering the story. >> reporter: the only thing doctors knew was children were dying fast, fever, convulgzs and encephalitis and then the lungs completely destroyed. since the end of april doctors in cambodia struggled with with a medical mystery. and that mystery was solved here. blood samples were brought to this laboratory, analyzed and they concluded that there were several different pathogens. there was virus 71. all of the infections were made worse by the use of steroids.
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the lab had to work backwards and eliminate known viruses. >> the first thing that goes through your head is to try and determine whether this is one of the usual suspects that you haven't detected before. if it is, has itmitated or changed in such a way that it causes more severe disease or is it something completely new. >> reporter: epidem aulgist s solved the mystery. no steroid should be used. they seem to think steroids made this problem worse. >> when you have a dying child you try to use what you have at hand. they were right to try that. whether or not it helps remains to be determined. >> reporter: i don't want to
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belabor the point but they seem to indicate that it hurt, that these infections a lot of times they can be a problem but they are not particularly dangerous but something pushes them over the top. and they thought that the steroids seemed to be a common denominator. >> from the cases that we reviewed almost all of the children died and almost all of them had steroids. >> reporter: steroids can be a potent anti-inflammatory but when given to children with aggressive infections they can suppress the immune system allowing the infection to be worse as was the case with ev 71. you hear about avian flew. ev 71 had not been in cambodia before. why does it appear with such vengeance? >> it looks like this has
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emerged strongly probably because it had not circulated with the same intensity in the past years. >> reporter: it is believed that a slight variation made the virus stronger. and the steroids made the body's resistance even weaker. case closed. it sounds like the case is closed from your standpoint? >> yes. i think we can close the case. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, c cnn. house republicans are minutes away from voting to repeal the health care law. we are keeping a close eye on that. also a massive probe is sending back pretty fascinating pictures of a vortex in outer space. it takes nine hours to fully rotate one time. chad is all over it. i don't spend money on gasoline.
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violent turbulence rocks an airplane. a nasa probe is sending back fascinating foetoes. time to play reporter roulette. want to go to john in miami with more on this frightening plane ride. talk to me about the turbulence they experienced. >> the plane was about 30 minutes outside of miami late yesterday afternoon. the seat belt sign was on. the passengers were supposed to be on their seats. they were on the initial approach into miami.
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and it was literally a grab the arm rest moment. out of nowhere they hit severe turbulence. this is what some of the passengers had to say when they got on the ground. >> it felt like a huge drop. i was watching the movie and heads popped out. entire plane. >> i thought we were going to die. it was scary. >> of course, i was sure that i was going to die. >> initially about a dozen people were injured. two flight attendants and one passenger was sent to the hospital and treated and released. >> was there anything on the radar to give them a head's up? >> no. the radar was clear. there was nothing there. i talked today with the national weather service here in miami and they were saying that's not necessarily surprising. there were thunderstorms in and around miami late yesterday but
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you get some of these really huge thunderstorms and you can have turbulence ten to 20 miles away from where the thunderstorm is and you wouldn't know that the turbulence was there when you hit it and that is when you hear the term clear air turbulence. >> and there you have it. i would have totally white knuckled on that flight. thank you very much. next we have chad miers. it's a good day. anytime i can talk about moons and vortexes nerd alert. >> you like space. >> i asked you yesterday what did you want to be when you grew up? >> i said astronauts until i did physics. >> those electrons were going different ways. let me show you what this looks like. this is a vortex on the south pole of titan. there it is.
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everybody at my weather office said it looks like a baby. it looks like one of those. nine days to spin around. what is it doing there? we don't know. there is the spin right there. it's going around the south pole. the scientists believe at nasa that the south pole is getting to be in its winter time and this could be a winter storm circulating around the pole itself. there is the south pole. here is the polar vortex. there was one on the north pole when the north pole had its winter. now the south pole is getting its winter. they just found it because this is really cool. this thing is going around and looking at this and titan was going around the equator the entire time and didn't see it. they changed the orbit of it so it was going this way and they said what is that? they could see the poles looking straight down rather than at
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such an acute angle. they just saw this a couple of days ago. >> i love these photos. thank you. the question now, where is jesse jackson jr.? the answer, no one knows. the congressman basically calls out sick and disappears. some fellow lawmakers including democrats want to know what is going on. [ buzz ] off to work!
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so we just wanted to dip in
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and show more live pictures. chad has been watching this. this is the trench rescue. construction worker stuck under dirt for the better part of an hour and a half. they are taking buckets. >> it's almost like the bucket brigade. empty buckets filling them up with dirt and taking the dirt out. they weren't really trying to yank him out of there. he was stuck just too much. there were three in the hole according to wdiv. two got out immediately. they realized they couldn't yank him out of there and they with in there with their hands putting dirt by hand in a bucket and throwing the dirt away to try to get this guy free. >> bucket by bucket we are going to watch this. keep giving us the live pictures. rappid fire.
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for the 33rd house republicans on a debate. any moment the house is expected to pass the bill to repeal obama care. it is dead on on arrival in the senate. also fellow democrats are getting impatient with illinois congressman jesse jackson jr. who has been on a mysterious medical leave for a month. the calls are beginning to mount for congressman jackson to reveal more about his absence. >> i think congressman jackson and his office and his family would be well advised to advise the constituents. people get sick and when people get sick they miss work. everybody in america understands that. in ohio today this train derailed. mile wide section evacuated
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after this train caught fire and the explosion absolutely rocked the area. you can see the tankers there just burning. part of the reason they are burning they were hauling thousands of gallons of ethanol. >> it was like i don't know how to describe it. it was just a big boom. like it was loud. so we ran outside and everything was on fire. >> i was nervous. i thought i was going to die. >> i heard a big boom and then i looked up and then i just saw orange and i started freaking out. >> no serious injuries were reported but some people are still waiting to return to their homes because of this. a car bomb explodes in yemen. ten people killed. 19 others wounded. police say the suicide bomber saw a group of cadets leaving this main gate and set off the blast. the attack is believed to be the work of al qaeda.
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a plan to save spain from financial melt down not going over well in madrid. look at this. you can hear some of the rubber bullets being fired by the police squad also using batons on demonstrators today including coal miners. spain's prime minister announced he will be adding value added sales tax and will suspend christmas bonuses. this is playing out in california. he is not done yet. keep your eyes on the truck because they are stopping. he is a suicidal p.e. teacher accused of sexual assaulting a 14-year-old girl. he goes off the highway and slams into a tree, through the guard rail and ultimately ends in the tree and they get him.
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he climbed the highest mountains but his lowest point witnessed by millions. adventurer former wall street trader apparently put something in his mouth as he was being convicted of burning his own mansion to collect insurance money. >> the discharged use of fire, identity of weapon or dangerous instrument, yes. is this your true verdict so say you one and all? >> yes. >> his hand slip. what he did. minutes later he collapsed in court and he died after being taken to the hospital. authorities have been piecing together what happened ever since and on the case criminal defense attorney. welcome, by the way. we know that the coroner has not yet ruled on the cause of death
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but it sounds like it will be ruled suicide by cyanide. what an image what he is doing? have you ever seen that before? >> i have not seen that before. since 2008 and the recession we have seen so many domestic violence cases where husbands and wives dealing with debt are in violent relationships and we are seeing arson cases. somebody has so much indebtedness they think the best way to get through it is burn it down. he wows found guilty and knew the jury was getting ready to move into the sentencing phase meaning they were going to hear evidence for how long he would go to jail. if it was suicide we know in 2011 he had ordered and received the cyanide part of his master plan and he followed through with it. >> do you think in cases like this where it is someone from
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affluent means, do you think it is more difficult for people in this situation? >> we all think of madoff. he has embraced his incarceration and seems to be thriving in the setting. there are some that if they commit a crime of this magnitude are awesome so naricistic they think they can survive anything. we learn about this man, apparently he just didn't see himself in this basic lifestyle of imprisonment and chose to go the other direction. >> couldn't take it. this is out of west virginia. authorities say this next case amounts to slavery and torture. this is peter lizzen accused of chaining his wife, beater her, mutilating her for ten years until the wife finally went to a women's crisis center for help.
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i mean, the details are horrend s including beating her with a hot frying pan. >> crazy. absolutely crazy. you are going to see two types of experts. you are going to see cultural experts. apparently these folks are czech republic consent. you will see if it is possible that someone would endure this and inflict this based on cultural disposition and then the psychologist with the issue of the cycle of abuse. we think of when somebody stays in a relationship when they are subjected to violence because there is the explosion and the loving stage, the contrite and the forgiveness and talking the way through it. that is where we are going to see this case. >> for us looking on the outside in i can't imagine.
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someone does this to you you leave. in this case she is standing by him. >> you are going to see the combination of the two issues if it was cultural or the dependence that we see. we hear all the time, maybe not so much in the modern era we have heard and seen so many cases where a woman will generally stand by her man. let's be honest it is mostly the woman subjected by the violence. where the cases generally get the most publicity is where the woman strikes back, does something to injure her husband or her boyfriend or lover in self defense. that gets the publicity. what makes this so unique is we discovered her in the midst of the abuse. >> chained her up allegedly while she was giving birth, beating her with a hot frying pan. mutilating her feet. >> the tell tale signs is she
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reported she gave birth to what we call a still born and was buried. if they find that still born it will be game, set match. that will prove the allegations that she has told the third party at the shelter were true. >> thank you. on the case with us today. the economy forcing some parents to give up their children. and in some cases choose which of their children to keep. you are about to hear why parents are abandoning their babies and why this is a growing crisis. matters. pioneers in outsourcing us jobs supports tax breaks overseas. insourcing. industry and favors bring jobs home. it matters.
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i know we have been keeping an eye on europe keeping the most fragile economies from imploding. in madrid -- i want to take the next couple of minutes to focus on stories that aren't always grabbing headlines. the less obvious casualties. babies are being abandoned in ever greater numbers by parents who simply can't afford to take care of them. and many of them are left in what is called baby hatches a lot like the american safe haven laws where mothers can leave unwanted newborns at a hospital or fire station. if you have never heard of a baby hatch here is how it works. this is a cnn report at a rome
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hospital in 2007. >> reporter: it's accessible only from the outside allowing the mother to drop the baby in a heated crib monitored by a camera. within seconds censors detect movement to where doctors intervene in less than one minute. >> that's a baby hatch. this is barbie mcdoesh. welcome. i read your piece first thing this morning and i thought my goodness. i know baby hatches is not something new in europe. they are operated in 11 countries. what is new is this dramatic increase in the number of children dropped off. tell me about the increase. >> it is really shocking, the increase. in some of the hospitals and facilities that are attached to baby hatches don't give public information about how many babies are being dropped.
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you have a 20% increase of babies up for adoption in countries like italy and greece. these babies are generally these abandoned children. it's a very tragic situation because these mothers feel very desperate. they can't take care of their child. they are going to give their child put the baby in there and close the hatch and walk away because they just can't do it. in greece especially we have seen a higher number of older children which is even more tragic on some level being abandoned at daycare centers and daycare providers and schools because the parents cannot feed the children. in the spring there was a daycare center in athens that had four children in the course of one week that left and one girl had a note pinned to her vest that said i am not going to be picking up this girl today
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because i can't afford to feed her. >> we have had cnn crews in greece recently telling the story of the older kids being adopted. it is different with the little babies being dropped off in the hatch. greece. are those the two countries that have the highest numbers in terms of abandoned babies, would you say? >> well, in terms of the numbers of the abandoned babies, yes. italy and greece far outweigh the other countries. but there are baby hatches in countries even like germany which are doing well in this economic crisis, certainly doing better. you have a situation where people can't handle the idea that they'll have an infant to feed, another mouth to feed. in italy especially the church, the catholic church, is very involved in the care and facilitation of some of these babies and adoption things like that. but it's growing in numbers. and it's worrying. and to such an extent there's an organization here in rome -- in italy that want to put a baby hatch in every single city
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across the country. that's very telling. that assures there are requests and questions from mothers, expectant mothers, from people who can't afford to feed their babies, they want a place to leave them. >> talk about desperate times. in reading your piece i wondered about the legality. this is what you write "abandoning a child in the eu is punishable by prison times but many overlook the crimes if the child was given up for economic reasons and left in a safer place." so i'm reading this correctly. this is illegal these parents dropping off these babies, but it sounds like churches and hospitals are turning a blind eye, is that right? >> they are turning a blind eye because what is the alternative? the alternative is infants killing a baby leaving a baby in a dumpster than a place they know. they also have in italy and greece a situation where you can have a baby, you can give birth to a baby and conceal your identity. which doesn't exist in other
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parts of europe. in these two countries you can go in as a pregnant woman to the hospital and say i don't want you to know who i am. i'm going to leave my baby. i can't afford it. i can't take care of it. so i don't have any responsibility. and they will help you provide a facility to birth your baby. and you just walk away. and then you really have no connection to the baby at all. a big problem of course is that -- we know the medical histories of the baby, there's no history to these children. nobody knows anything about them in those cases. >> but i have to ask, this is my final question for you, what are the governments doing? they have to know this is going on. at a shocking increase, what do they do about it? >> well, they're building more baby hatches. allowing for more opportunities to safely give up the child. in these cases it's much better than leaving a child on a doorstep or worse, killing the child, which is really a desperate measure by providing baby hatches and more
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opportunities to leave a baby safely and securely and assume for the mother and some sort of i'm sure terrible moment of her life somewhere confident where the baby will be taken care of. she can do that. that's what we're seeing happen. >> barbie nadeau, thank you. let's go live to the house floor. here you have it. the vote to repeal president obama's health care law underway. we're going to take you there live next.
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all right. we know the u.s. house of representatives is now gavelled this. we know the vote is over in terms of repealing. they've been attempting this, what is this time number 33 to repeal obama's health care law? let me bring in dana bash and wolf blitzer together. dana, first to you, can you give me the final vote tally? >> 244 to 185. wasn't even close. we didn't expect it to be since republicans have such a big majority in the house. so they did once again show that there are the votes in the house of representatives to repeal the health care law. but as we have been saying all day, really yesterday as well, yes, they have the votes, but this was a political exercise. and republicans admit that readily because the next body, the senate, they're not the votes there. the democrats run it and the votes are simply not there to repeal the health care law. so republicans will be able to go back and go out to the campaign trail and make the case particularly to the republican
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base that they are doing what the republican base wants them to do. and also going to make the case that, you know, you have these votes, give us more republicans in the senate, give us a republican in the white house, then we can make this repeal happen. >> dana, thank you. wolf blitzer, to you. look, we know this isn't going anywhere. dana just made the point. you know that, i know that in terms of majority democrats majority control the senate. do you think though come november this will really galvanize some of the conservatives to go out and vote, really the power is at the ballot box? >> yeah. this will definitely energize a lot of those conservatives out there, republicans, tea party supporters. they hate the president's health care law. and they certainly have been energized by the u.s. supreme court decision upholding obama care. so these kinds of votes will certainly energize them. the republicans think it's a winning issue. at the same time a lot of democrats think this is a winning issue because there are some popular elements in the new
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law that are just now beginning to take effect. no pre-conditions, for example. kids can stay on their parents' health insurance programs until they're 26 years old. there's some popular stuff out there. so it will be a debate. health care will certainly be a debate, but the biggest debate will of course be the state of the economy, the creation of jobs, is the country moving in the right direction or wrong direction? on that this election will certainly be determined. we're going to have extensive coverage of that coming up in "the situation room." >> okay, wolf blitzer, see you in exactly two minutes. dana, i want to go back to you. what have you been hearing? i know you've been talking to folks both on the republican side, on the democrat side. what have you been hearing? >> well, actually just one other piece of information about where this vote went down. >> yeah. >> obviously the vast majority of republicans voted for this, but also five democrats, five democrats voted for it. and that i believe is sort of the high water mark when it comes to democrats voting to repeal the president's signature law, the health care law.
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not very much, but interesting clearly those are democrats who come from districts where this is highly, highly unpopular. and these democrats either -- some are retiring, but some want to come back next year and feel voting to repeal this law is the best way to do that. >> why though, dana -- i asked you this, i'm going to ask you again. we heard the matchup earlier from both sides saying this is ground hog day, we have a right to do this. you made the point last time that democrats have done the exact same thing. >> oh, yeah. >> so why do this again? remind us. >> for them it's the beauty of having majority. the president has the bully pulpit. and when republicans run the house or senate, they have the ability to set the agenda as well. so that's what republicans are doing. they're setting the agenda. they're setting the agenda for discussion. what are we talking about today? we're talking about the health care law. that discussion may have ended in washington two weeks ago with the supreme court decision, but it