coming up tomorrow, the governors association meeting is underway. some big players, including martin o'malley, bob mcdonnell, and terry branstad. "cnn newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. this is cnn breaking news. and good morning to you. i'm carol costello. we start with breaking news in the cnn newsroom. in just seconds, 200-page report will be posted online. it involves penn state and how it handled the child rape allegations against jerry sandusky. as you know, this scandal tarnished the legacy of a beloved football coach, damaged penn state's reputation, and left the lives of many of the victims shattered. this internal review conducted by former fbi chief louis free will be posted on the web. this report was paid for by penn state, and it is helped to be scathing. cnn is bringing you all of the angles of the story from penn

state and behind. susan candiotti is in philadelphia like with sara ganim. her pulitzer prize-winning reports helped bring much of this to life. we will take you through the legal fallout from today's developments with legal analyst jeffrey toobin and paul calum. has the report been posted yet, susan? >> well, i just been emailed the opening remarks of former fbi director louis freeh. haven't had a chance to read it, but i can give you just a couple of bullet points. we know this report is supposed to be around 200 pages long. and louis freeh reveals in his opening remarks that are prepared that during the course of his investigation, that started last november, we has reviewed 3.5 million emails and documents and has interviewed more than 400 people during the course of his investigation. now remember this is not a

criminal investigation. he was hired by penn state's board of trustees to look at penn state's role in the sandusky scandal. to find out exactly what penn state may have done wrong and this is supposed to be a no holds barred report. i have, carol, our producers going through his opening remarks now. for additional information. but we know that he is taking a very hard look at what penn state officials knew or should have known about events leading up to the scandal. we can also tell you in his prepared remarks that louis freeh, i was just told, was not able to interview the vice president, gary schultz, at penn state at the time or athletic director at the time, tim curley. and remember both of those men have been charged with the state of pennsylvania with perjury, lying to a jury, and failing to report a case of suspected child abuse. carol? >> susan, just a few questions

because i know you want to go and read this report along with the team of producers who are also reading that report right now. why louis freeh? why did penn state hire him to conduct this investigation? >> well, certainly his credentials speak for themselves. he was longtime director, of course, head of the fbi. this is someone who is used to looking into various investigations of a criminal nature. but also he has a background and has served on a board of the national center for missing and exploited children. so he certainly has a background and has said that he cares very deeply about the exploitation of children. he had a lot of work to be done. he certainly was going to be looking at whether penn state followed his own procedures, and he has said this publicly, for handling allegations of sexual mis conducond misconduct, especially involving

children. >> i know you want to get to that report. susan, we'll get back to you from philadelphia. over the next two hours, you'll be hearing about all of the key players surrounding the pennstate scandal, including joe paterno, the legendary head coach that was dismissed in the wake of the charges. in the statement released today, paterno's family calls him, quote, highly principled and says select emails have been leaked in an attempt to smear his name. we'll also hear more about jerry sandusky, pa tern p pa tern pe paterno's longtime assistant, sitting in jail. and then there's mike mcqueary, the graduate assistant who worked with the penn state football team. it was mcqueary who told school officials he saw sandusky molesting a boy in a school shower as far back as 2001. and one of the officials that mcqueary went to with that information was athletic director tim curley. curley is now on live from penn

state. he is awaiting his own trial. he faces charges of perjury for lying to a grand jury and failing to report suspected child abuse. hundreds of people were interviewed by the freeh committee, including students. one of those now former students is here today. his name is tj bard. he was penn state's student body president. he sat in on meetings with the board of trustees. he also worked closely with the university president at the time. and those two administrators who are now accused of lying to a grand jury about what they knew. tj, thanks for being here today. >> thanks for having me back, carol. >> first of all, tj, what was it like to be interrogated by freeh's investigators? >> it was an extremely thorough process. i was interviewed for over two hours. it was really, really in depth. they asked a lot of questions specifically concerning what i knew about joe paterno, the football program, my impressions of the football program at penn state, and then obviously the board of trustees.

kind of what is the impression of the board of trustees within the university. my role as a student representative to the board of trustees. and then obviously my relationships with gary schultz, tim curley, and the senior administrators at the university. >> let's talk more about that. as you said, you worked closely with tim curley and the vice president, gary schultz. were you with them when the sandusky story broke? >> no. i actually two days before the story broke, i had flown back from philadelphia with gary schultz. and it was one of those things that that morning, when the scandal broke, i woke up and i read the news that both gary schultz and tim curley had been arrested on charges of perjury. and then i slowly as i looked into it, i saw this nature jerry sandusky. a name that i had never seen before. to be honest, i had never heard of the man before the accusations came out. so it was to say surprising is definitely an understatement for me. >> tell us about these two men's characters.

because there's an impression out there in the public right now, since they are charged with perjury, that they coveredthis up because of the football program at penn state. what is your impression of mr. schultz and mr. curley? >> it's something that's always been difficult for me to really kind of take in since the allegations have been made and the charges have been brought. gary schultz has served the university for years. almost two or three decades as the senior vice president of finance and business. someone that i have worked with. and tim curley was a highly honored athletic director. and it is very, very surprising to hear that anything like this were ever to happen. but fundamentally, what it comes down to is the safety of children. if in any way someone knew that children were in danger, even had the slightest inkling that children were in danger and did nothing about it, it's absolutely disgusting to me. and i hope that's not the case.

and i hope from working with them that i would be thoroughly surprised if they did know. and chose to cover it up. but if the report today shows that there was some sort of information, they knew it, and they did nothing about the potential endangerment of children, then i will be very, very disappointed and very upset. >> donations to penn state. second highest in its history. something like $203 million. does that surprise you? >> it doesn't at all. there's one thing -- there's many things that are great about penn state, but one of the greatest things is our pride in the university. our alumni, our students, spend hundreds and thousands of people across this country and across the world. and we have a deep pride for our university that spans more than the actions of a few. we have 158 years of history. and it's something that we take a lot of pride in, regardless of the actions of five or six individuals at our university.

we never wanted to let this define us, and we will never let the actions of these individuals define us. >> tj bard, i hope you'll stick around. we'd like to rejoin you later in the next couple of hours on cnn. thanks so much. >> thanks again, carol. >> thank you, tj. just moments ago, we got this new statement from louis freeh. of course, he is the guy in charge of this internal investigation into penn state and what officials knew or didn't about jerry sandusky. quote, our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of sandusky's child victims by the most senior leaders at penn state. the most powerful men at penn state failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who sandusky victimized. that's a pretty damning statement. also awaiting details in philadelphia, attorneys for sandusky's victims. including tom klein, who represents victim number five. victim number five was 11 years old when he met sandusky through the second mile charity.

he told jurors about one visit to the penn state campus with sandusky. and victim number five said they were in the sauna when sandusky exposed himself. attorney tom klein is here now. welcome, tom. >> good morning. >> you just heard me read that latest statement from louis freeh. what went through your mind? >> it was precisely what i thought that mr. freeh would find. i have been deep into this investigation for a while. and mr. freeh found the obvious, which was in 1998, there was an incident of a boy in a shower. it was investigated by children and youth services. i have been waiting to learn that penn state, the coaching staff, mr. paterno, and higher-ups knew about it. we now know that they did. in 2001, there is the much publicized and well-known incident with mr. mcqueary in the shower. the emails which cnn reported on recently in advance of the report are a centerpiece of this

report. and the bottom line is that there was a callus and reckless disregard for the children victims. my young man who i represent was a child of 13 years old who was taken to the shower and molested by jerry sandusky just six months after the 2001 mcqueary incident. and freeh says today that the higher-ups at penn state were responsible. and it's frankly something i have known all along. >> one of those higher-ups, of course, may be joe paterno, head football coach at penn state for many, many years, a legend. his reputation might be tarnished once all of the evidence comes to light. the paterno family has been trying to preempt this, and they released this op-ed that joe paterno wrote before he died. it was never published but given to penn state football players. i'll just read you a part of that. it says, this is not a football scandal and should not be

treated as one. it is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved reputation of penn state. that penn state officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to everyone of the over 500,000 living alumni. but there is some evidence that paterno had a hand in covering up the sandusky affair. so do you expect to hear more damning stuff against joe paterno today once this entire report comes to light? >> well, i like many are going to read the report carefully. none of what we find surprises me. the thing that i am most interested in looking at regarding mr. paterno is how the 1999 so-called resignation of mr. sandusky, a pminent defensive line coach at one of the most prestigious football programs in america, how he all of a sudden resigned. how the paterno family says that this is not about football. it's about penn state, and penn

state was about football. that's one thing we know. there was a corrosive atmosphere at penn state. and mr. paterno was in the center of it. mr. paterno knew that he had a child predator on his hands, and he did nothing about it. and he can't escape responsibility. it's a shame that we're talking about mr. paterno when he's no longer with us. but the facts are the facts. and mr. paterno did nothing to protect young men. he could have done so much more, as could have the president of the university and the athletic director to stop the incident which happened in august of 2001, where my young man as a boy was molested. so i understand that the paterno family is in a damage control mode. but the facts aren't going to change. >> there's going to be more lawsuits filed against penn state. and i'm sure those -- that's going through your mind as well.

so you'll be listening to what comes out of this report, and you'll decide on what kind of lawsuit, how much damages you'll ask for based on the facts in this report? >> my interest has been first and foremost public accountability as well as admission of culpability by penn state. we'll see the penn state trustees reaction to this. penn state has said they want to settle the claims. but any settlement of the claims will involve a thorough evaluation, maybe going beyond what mr. freeh has to say. i noticed in his public statement that he talks about the trustees, there being no direct knowledge of the -- by the trustees of what happened here. but we need to go further and figure that out as well. i'm less interested today -- in fact, i'm not interested today in talking about dollar amounts. i'm interested today as is

america in the cupability of penn state. that's what i'm really interested in. >> tom klein, i know you'll be with us for the next couple of hours on cnn. thank you so much for taking the time to join us this morning. again, if you're just joining cnn, breaking news today involving penn state. a 200-page investigation conducted by louis freeh, the former fbi guy, will be posted online. actually, part of it is posted right now. it's 200 pangs loges long. we have a team of producers going over that report because we do have the hard copy. louis freeh issued a statement just moments ago, and i'll read it to you. he says, quote, the most power elf men at penn state failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect children who sandusky victimized. mr. spanier, schultz, paterno and curley never demonstrated

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back to our big story today. the report on the penn state sexual abuse scandal is now available to you, the public. it is posted online at the freeh report on psu.com website.

more than 400 people were interviewed for this probe, which was paid for by penn state, and led by former fbi director louis freeh. cnn's susan candiotti is combing through all of the details along with our cnn contributors, such as sara ganim. also a team of producers is helping to go through that huge report. it's 200 pages long. of course we'll bring you the latest developments as we get them in to cnn. we want to talk about other top stories this morning. 19 minutes past the hour. at the top of the however, we're going to get a new look at the case against george zimmerman. the florida state attorney will release new evidence to zimmerman's legal team that should include fbi interviews with more than 30 people relating to the shooting death of trayvon martin. we have a team of cnn producers there too that will scour those documents. they also will bring you the new developments in the george zimmerman case. also, one day after mitt romney, it's vice president joe biden's turn to address the crowd at the naacp convention in

houston. biden will deliver the keynote dress in just about an hour and 15 minutes from now. we'll bring that to you live. in florida, the president of florida a&m university has resigned more than seven months since a student died in a hazing scandal. james amonds says he is going to retire. the family of robert champion filed a lawsuit against the school's boost of trustees this week. champion, a drum major, died on a hazing incident on a bus last year. 14 suspects charged in the case. in money news, home foreclosure filings jumped 9% in the last three months. according to a new report, in are than 1 million homes filed for foreclosure so far this year, but the numbers do show a slight improvement over last year. in weather, parts of southeast texas underwater today. you're looking at bay city, where several inches of rain triggered heavy flooding across many areas. familiar other texans, the rain is a welcome relief. temperatures should stay below 90 degrees today, but more rain is expected.

looks like nba superstar dwight howard will stay put for now after two weeks of negotiating the brooklyn nets could not reach a deal with the orlando magic's all-star center. the nets instead resigning brook lopez to a huge deal. howard still has one more year left on his contract. and check this out. a new view of that fireworks mishap in san diego on the fourth of july. wow. this video was posted on youtube. you can see the fireworks display going off all at one time. because of a technical glitch, the 15-minute show was reduced to about, oh, 15 seconds. it was a darn good finale. it just started too soon. you may see some changes on facebook this morning. a new button will help cyber bullying with just a few clicks.

this morning, facebook is rolling out changes to make it easier for kids to handle cyber bullying online. so what does that mean for facebook? now a public company and its users? alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange to explain. good morning. >> good morning, carol. facebook is teaming up with researchers at yale, at columbia, and berkeley to come up with the changes. this was presented by the way yesterday during its compassion research day. what this is about is how kids can report inappropriate content. the change is specifically targeted for those 13-year-old and 14-year-olds who are the youngest age that the site actually allows. and if they see anything mean or threatening, anything posted like this, they can now click

something that says, this post is a problem. that actual phrase replaces the old, quote, report button which was kind of seen as too formal and a little cold. once they click that new button, they are taken through a series of casually worded questions to help the child sort through emotions and determine how serious the problem is. and after that, they get a list of suggestions either to send a message to the person who made the post or get help from an adult. it's also -- they are also given links to help anyone who may be feeling suicidal. and, you know, carol, kids spend so much time online, facebook really trying to put more support options out there for those feeling bullied on the site. >> and that's a good thing. thank you. once again, president obama is not going to speak at the naacp convention. vice president joe biden will talk instead. and that has some people thinking that the president is giving black leaders the cold shoulder. moisturizing lotion.

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we've been telling you about that penn state investigationive report. 200 pages of a complete investigation conducted by the former fbi guy, louis freeh, posted online now. and susan candiotti has been poring through it. what have you found out, susan? >> reporter: just barely scratching the surface, but i can tell you, the headline, this is blistering. it talks about a cover-up by the top officials at penn state university, and specifically including coach joe paterno, the former vice president gary schultz, athletic director tim curley, and former president graham spanier. i'm going to give you some key

bullet points here it. says four of the most powerful men at penn state failed to take any steps for more than a decade to protect children who sandusky victimized. it named spannier, schultz, paterno and curley, says never demonstrated through actions or words for the safety and well-being of sandusky's victims until after mr. sandusky's arrest. it talks about how these officials and others knew about sandusky and allegations against him at the very least going back to 1998. and it says to avoid bad publicity that they concealed critical facts, ignored red flags, and concealed critical information. and there is much more than that, carol. >> susan, just a question for you before you go. graham spanier, the former president at penn state, is

mentioned as part of this alleged cover-up. he hasn't been charged with any crime. could he be in light of what you just read to us? >> reporter: well, it's entirely possible. remember, this is not a criminal investigation that was conducted by former fbi director louis freeh. he was hired by penn state for an internal review. but is louis freeh's investigators who turned up more than 3.5 million documents, including emails that were turned over, many of those, to state investigators as part of their ongoing criminal investigation. there could be additional charges. and in fact, it is possible, sources have told us, that this might also result in charges against the former president of penn state, graham spanier. certainly there could be a lot of fallout from this. we know that victims' attorneys, for example, are poring through this document as well and it could be used as part of their expected lawsuits. you know, it talks about a striking lack of empathy, as they put it, for child abuse

victims by most senior leaders at the university. and the failure by the board of trustees to exercise its oversight of these various actions and incidents. >> unbelievable. susan candiotti, i know you want to read more of that report so i'm going to let you go. we're going to go to penn state now because that's where our jason carol is. jason, you have been hearing this. and it says that administrators had a striking lack of empathy for these children. what's the reaction on campus? >> reporter: well, carol, in speaking to just a few students and some of those here in the community, a lot of people were expecting this report to be extremely critical of administrators. they knew that was coming. despite that, though, what we found is a number of people still have an incredible amount of support for joe paterno. they feel as though he's being made a scapegoat. once again this morning we had a brief opportunity to speak to just a few people here, some students, some folks in the community. i want you to listen to what they had to say just moments

before the prerepofrooe frooe report came out. >> know it definitely had a lot of impact on students. there was a lot of gatherings when it first happened. and i think that everyone just hopes for the best. they want fairness for everyone overall. they don't want blame on just, say, joe paterno or just one person. they'd like to see fairness equally. >> well, i think from the very beginning, paterno was made a scapegoat. i believe that some people are guilty, but i think it's a very few. and i think that the football program really had nothing to do with this. it was entirely a few people in administration. >> reporter: and as you know, carol, we also have an op-ed that was actually never published, written by joe paterno just about a month or so before his death, where he basically defended his actions, defended penn state, fended the football program here at

penn state, saying that this was not a football scandal. i want to read to you just a brief excerpt from that op-ed that was never published. this is joe paterno's own words. he said, quote, regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football. and so, carol, until the very end, joe paterno was defending the program, the football program, that he built here. carol? >> jason carroll, we'll get back to you. thanks so much. let's move on to the world of politics now, shall we? vice president joe biden will appear at the naacp conference in houston. mitt romney did that yesterday. and you probably weren't completely shocked that romney was booed at the naacp. >> i'm going to eliminate every nonessential expensive program i can find. that includes obama care. and i'm going work to reform and save -- [ crowd booing ]

>> well, it turns out romney wasn't so surprised he was booed either. listen to what he told republican friendly fox news afterwards. >> i expected that, of course. but, you know, i'm going to give the same message to the naacp that i give across the country, which is that obama care is killing jobs. >> as the day went on, his remarks became more aggressive. at a fundraiser in montana, he told supporters, quote, i want people to know what i stand for and if i don't stand for what they want, go vote for someone else. he continued, if they want more stuff from government, tell them to vote for the other uy, more free stuff. but don't forget nothing is really free. if his goal was to build bridges, he blew them up by the time he got to montana. we have will cain and roland martin with us.

>> we can't get roland's pretty face? >> he is inside the convention hall. >> we have major lightning in houston. we can't have the satellite pole up in the area. >> roland provides enough lightning himself. romney branded himself as the serious adult, a strong leader. is that how he came off at the naacp, will? >> yeah, i do think so. i think he came off as something more than a serious adult. i think he came off as something he has never been accused of, and that is consistent. for once it seemed like he didn't take the temperature of the room or test the winds around him. he gave a message that he would have given anywhere. one about obama care, one about government spending, one about government growth. and i think he should be applauded for that, for that consistency in his message. it's not something he is commonly accused of. >> roland, did romney walk into that naacp convention trying to prove a point, not to black leaders but to his base?

>> well, first of all, no one can actually assess that, because unless you have talked to him or his people to say that's what they were trying to do. so anybody trying to say that is all based upon speculation, and just throwing up, you know, their finger in the wind. bottom line is, he talked about -- he said clearly there are some things we're going to agree on. some things we're going to disagree on. and the ability to be able to work together. but i do believe, though, that his comments after the fact basically blew that out of the way, because when he talks about free stuff, and again he talks about they. look, this ain't my first rodeo. we understand the coded language and things along those lines. and it made no sense because it's not as if the naacp members are the only peek out there who support the affordable care act. >> go on, will. i hear you. >> well, yeah. i roland and i have had a little

back and forth about this. but i think he's just -- if you're looking for coding in the pronoun "they" and the consistent make that government gives away free stuff and nothing is really free, i think you're really, really stretching it. i think you're stretching the limits of credibility. i don't see any coding in that message. i'm sorry. and i just think it's a huge stretch. >> will, the difference between you and i is i don't look for it, but i know exactly when i see it. and when you follow that up, when you were just talking about the naacp, look, we get it. and, again, this goes back years. i understand and get coded language. i know exactly what it means. you probably don't because you don't have that particular experience. but i get it. look, man, i went to a conservative school. i know what i hear in conversation. i know what i hear from people. i hear coded language whether you're a white politician or a black politician. i get it, and i see it, and i suspect that's exactly what he did yesterday. what i'm saying is it was unnecessary. what i would love to hear romney

talk about is corporate welfare. that's free stuff. >> wait, wait. let will have his say. last comment, will. go ahead. >> corporate welfare. talk about that free stuff. >> will? >> roland, i get it, that you you're saying that you hear stuff that i don't hear, which i think is a convenient thing to say, by the way, when all we can do is read the transcript. >> it's the truth. >> hold on. if i took that transcript that you talked about, using the "they" and the free stuff and i applied it to, say, the progressive caucus of congress, and romney was talking to the same group, it would sound exactly the same. the same words would be used. there's nothing tailored here. >> trust me, will. conservatives, democrats, liberals, they all know coded language. we get it. and it's not convenient. it's a reality. and your reality is different from mine because your experience is different from mine. >> ok. we're going to have to leave it there, unfortunately, because i know this conversation will go on behind the scenes. will cain -- >> i hope so. >> yeah, definitely. will cain, roland martin, thanks so much. >> see you guys.

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today we have a little bit more information about missing congressman jesse jackson jr. very little.

the illinois democrats office says he is suffering from a mood disorder. here is the statement from the unidentified physician supposedly treating jackson. the congressman is receiving intensive medical treatment at a residential treatment facility for a mood disorder. he is responding positively to treatment, and is expected to make a full recovery. so what exactly does that mean? i don't know. who knows? ted roland is in chicago to try to help us want. good morning, ted. >> good morning, carol. that's the big question. this is a general term, mood disorder. there are several different areas of that. specifically what is he suffering from and what are the extent of his ailments right now? is he going to run for re-election in november? when will he be back participating in house business? and that's what you're seeing from capitol hill, questions from leaders yesterday and the day before, coming out saying, listen, we need more

information, his constituents need more information. and i think that pushed a little bit the jackson camp to release the statement. but like you say, it almost brings up more questions. yes, it does answer some of the things that were out there. there were rumors that he was in drug and alcohol treatment. they said, no, that is wrong. there were rumors he tried to commit suicide. his father, reverend jesse jackson, said, no, that's wrong. but the question still remains, what's his condition, and when will he be able to go back to work. >> well, that's the question. some in his own party are saying if you can't go back to work anytime soon, just resign so we can get back to business. >> right. and get a game plan in for november. in and don't lose that seat. you know, there's some pragmatic political questions here that need to be answered from the party. so you wonder, there must be a disconnect obviously between the party leaders and the jackson camp because they are coming out publicly. and i'm sure their first route was behind closed doors to try to find out what was going on. when that didn't work, they came

out publicly demanding answers, meaning there's a disconnect there. >> well, does anyone have a good guess about what exactly a mood disorder is? >> well, not specifically in his case. and that's the question. there are different degrees of different ailments with mood disorders. you're talking about depressive disorders, bipolar disorders come under mood disorders. but there are varying degrees in each category. and the statement says from this unnamed doctor that is supposedly treating him that he is responding and that he will make a full recovery. if that's the case, many people say, well, let's hear from the doctor, and let's just get it out in the open so that it will allow people to take a deep breath and say, ok, he's having a little problem but he'll be back running in november and there will be no problem here. but this mysterious way that it's being handled by the jackson camp really has people asking for more answers that they are just not getting.

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piers morgan's interview with actor robert blake was raw, it was emotional, and, well, started out friendly. then the one-on-one took a combative turn when piers questioned blake about the 2001 murder of his wife. blake was acquitted of killing her in 2005, and then later found liable in a wrongful death civil suit. "showbiz tonight's" aj hammer has the most tense exchanges for us. and it was wild. >> yeah. it was really contentious at times. mostly coming from blake, carol. he went on the show to promote his new memoir called "tales of a rascal," but piers did try to get him to open up about the murder of his wife. here is just one of the very combative exchanges between the two of them last night. >> you're just like the cops. there's noplace to get. keep him in jail until he dies because everybody who's dead is

guilty. why would i marry her if i was going to kill her? i mean, i was worth $25 million. i could have hired somebody to kill her when she was in tibet or someplace. she drove all over the country. she was out selling and doing -- i could have hired somebody to follow her for 10 months and make her disappear so no one could ever find her, for christ's sake. i would go out to dinner to kill her? what the [ bleep ] is the matter with you? >> i didn't say you killed her. >> you didn't say i didn't. and you said it's all very interesting. what the [ bleep ] is so interesting about it? why don't you ask me some interesting questions? >> and he went to on to say it was boring, boring, boring. >> it was pa threthetic in a wa. blake said he was angry. he had no hollywood friends. he said his only consistent source of love was from his fans. and at one point he even talked

about a dream of a big screen comeback and he was almost crying. >> he got very emotional about the whole thing. look at this exchange where blake tries to explain why he was getting so worked up. >> there's no question that i'm very thin skinned and i'm frightened. and there's no question [ bleep ] -- there's no question that i take things that you say too seriously and too much to heart. and i do misrepresent what people say to me because i know i'm still hurt and i may be hurt for the rest of my life. >> now, piers did ask -- surprisingly he didn't get anywhere here's a man who's been

through a whole lot. >> i think he needs help. >> yeah. >> a.j. hammer, thanks so much. let's take a look at our top story. in just a few minutes we learn more about the case in george zimmerman. the florida state's attorney will release new evidence to zimmerman's legal team and the public. it should include fbi interviews with more than 30 people are relating to the shooting death of trayvon martin. we have a team of cnn producers who will scour those documents. martin savidge is among them. he's a reporter on the story. he will bring you all of the new developments. one day after mitt romney, it's vice president joe biden's turn to deliver the keynote address at the naacp conference. when he starts speaking, we will bring it to you live. directv pulled all of viacom channels, including comedy central, mtv, and nickelodeon over a dispute over sib

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all right. you're looking at the report. this is the 200 page report that's been released online. this is louie fries report and it's very damming as far as joe paterno is concerned. >> it treats him as the powerful figures, the powerful men at pen states and really paints a picture where he and the other leaders were not only aware of what was going on but were covering it up. you have to question what happens next for the football program. and within the football program you know the ncaa will have to

step in. the ncaa says they are leaving the door open and will look at the report, obviously based on what we have seen so far. you would have to think that the ncaa will come down hard on penn state. joe paterno and his team is gone. the new coach is bill o'brien. in essence, the ncaa could be punishing a group of players and coaches that have nothing to do with this. o'brien, it's his first job. he's never coached or won or lost a game. it's a different place for penn state. and not to get too much into the x's and o's, this team is rebuilding because of the controversy around the program. they got new players, new quarterback. you have to see how much these young men respond as the new details come out. >> you've got to think that it will affect their play any way because of the bad stuff coming

out about joe paterno. joe paterno was football. >> yeah. and at some point the ncaa may have to say, we have to make sure this doesn't happen again, nothing like this ever happens again. one time i think ever smu got the death penalty and you have to wonder if this might be something that we'll see. >> we'll see. more cnn "newsroom" after a short break. how is this possible? proper tire inflation, by using proper grades of oil, your car runs more efficiently, saves gas. you could be doing this right now? yes i could, mike. i'm slowing you down? yes you are. my bad. the works fuel saver package. just $29.95 or less after rebate. only at your ford dealer. so, to sum up, you take care of that, you take care of these, you save a bunch of this. that works.

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we're going to take you immediately to philadelphia. louis freeh led the investigation at penn state. let's listen. >> the victims of a now convicted serial pedophile. i'd like to remind you all of the need to report child abuse to the authorities. in pennsylvania you can report it to the department of public welfare's child line. that number, which will be up here during the conference is 800-932-0313. it is our sincere hope that this report and the subsequent actions by penn state will help to bring every victim some

relief and some report. penn state university is an out oh standing educational institution, which is rightly proud of it's alumni, faculty, and staff, who in turn hold that institution in very high esteem. we fully appreciate the strong emotions which surround these tragic events in our

scathing analysis and you have to give them credit and hopefully they will i'd like to read that for our viewers so they are brought up to date. our most saddening and sobering finding is for the safety and welfare for sandusky's child victims by the most senior leaders at penn state. the most powerful men at penn state failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who sandusky victimized. freeh also said the continued access provided sandusky with a very currency that enabled him to attract his victims, some coaches, administrators, and

staff members ignored the red flags of sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him. can't get much more scathing than that, paul. he indites the former president of penn state, graham spanier, who has not been charged with any crime in this case. so what might happen down the line? >> well, i think this is a road map for the civil attorneys suing penn state university to prove their case. i mean, here you have penn state's own hired investigators saying that hire-ups didn't know about. hire-ups aided and abetted in this. what is particularly damming, carol, is after 1999, even though they knew that sandusky was doing improper things with kids in showers, they gave him

ameritus status and allowed him to continue to abuse children. so this has drawn a direct link to the university and second mile and it's going to just open the flood gates in terms of civil lawsuits against penn state. >> joe paterno's family in the past few days tried this preemptive strike saying that joe paterno cooperated fully, had nothing to do with the football culture, that these terrible things happened on campus. but this report seems to say something different. >> well, yes it does. and it's directly critical of paterno. although, i will say one of the things i found to be interesting is that paterno's testimony in the grand jury is quoted in the report and it's actually pretty tepid. he doesn't say a lot. he says before the grand jury that the only incident that he

knew about or was told about was when mcqueary told him about the shower incident, of course, that led to the whole investigation. but he says that prior to that he had never heard a rumor or knew anything about jerry sandusky horsing around or doing improper things with children in the shower rooms at penn state. so in terms of testimony under oath by joe paterno, this report doesn't point to anything specifically incriminating him and i think the paterno family and paterno supporters will take some comfort in finding the report. >> i'm going to interrupt you because i think louis freeh has the report. >> the total disregard for the welfare child woman victims by the most senior leaders at penn

state. the most powerful men at penn state failed to take any steps for the children who sandusky victimized. mr. spanier, schultz, and curly never showed any concern for the well-being of sandusky's victims until after sandusky's arrest. in critical correspondence that we uncovered in march 20th of this year, we see evidence of their proposed plan of action in february 2001 that included reporting allegations about sandusky to authorities. after mr. curley consulted with joe paterno, however, they changed the plan and decided not to report to the authorities. the failure to report the 2001 child victim or make attempts to identify him created a dangerous

situation for other unknown, unsuspecting young boys lured to penn state campus and victimized repeatedly by sandusky. further, they exposed this child to additional harm by alerting sandusky, who was the only one who knew the child's identity, about what mcqueary saw in the shower in february 2001. the stated reasons by mr. spanier, schultz, curley for not taking actions to identify the victim and not reporting sandusky to the police for child welfare are, one, nobody told them it was sexual conduct. two, sandusky should be treated humanely. and, three, somebody else would handle it.

and it is more reasonable to conclude that in order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at penn state university, mr. spanier, schultz, paterno, and curley, repeatedly concealed facts from the authorities, the board of trustees, the penn state community and the public at large. although concern to treat the child abuser humanely was ex expressly stated, no sentiments were expressed to them by sandusky's victims. the evidence though shows that these four men also knew about a 1998 criminal investigation of sandusky related to -- >> we're going to break away from this because these are powerful allegations, especially against the legendary coach joe paterno.

rubin was a starting free safety for the lions between 1991 and 1993 and captain during his senior year. rubin was the go-to guy for sandusky at the time that he was defensive coordinator. welcome. did you just hear that? >> hi. how are you? i did. very difficult words to hear. >> has your opinion changed about joe paterno? >> not at all. i think the thing we all need to consider is that this is a report, a very thorough report. but as in everything else, we need to give the family and all those involved to digest it take it for the gospel of truth. >> wait a minute, louis freeh said joe paterno concealed what

happened in that shower knowing what happened because they wanted to treat jerry sandusky humanely and they wanted someone else to handle it. they didn't want the bad publicity coming down on the university and the football program. how could you possibly feel the same way with joe paterno? >> sure. again, in fairness, i think this is mr. freeh's report and we need to take a chance to -- i haven't had a chance to read any of it at all. i think in fairness it needs to be read, digested, and spooned to. i think the accusations are very direct, they are very clear, and it would be unwise to try to defend any wrongdoing. i just think there needs to be an opportunity to respond to those allegations. >> i'm sure you paid close attention to the trial of jerry sandusky. >> i have. >> you worked closely with sandusky during your time at penn state. can you believe that that all happened? >> no. not at all.

and i was actually in the same position when the grand jury came out. i said, let's wait for the trial, let's wait for the legal process to run its course. he was convicted and i think there was freedom then to share some very direct and open statements about what he did and the fact that he violated the trust of those people who did believe in him. >> i mean, i'm sure you had a great opinion of jerry sandusky before all of this came to light. did your opinion only change about jerry sandusky after the trial was over and a conviction came down? >> oh, absolutely. when you find out that what was reported, what was -- what he was accused of was actually true, absolutely. and as i mentioned a little earlier, the thing that made it even more damming to me was the fact that he did it violating the trust of those people who did support him, who did believe

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released new information about george zimmerman. we have a team of information combing through that new information. included are details of more than 30 interviews from the fbi investigation. at the heart of this, whether or not race played a factor in the killing. martin savidge has been reading through all of this new information. what have you found? >> good morning, carol. this is the second release of discovery evidence that has come from special prosecutor's office and there is a mountain of material that has to go through the website and keep in mind the fbi came into this a couple of weeks after the young man was killed by george zimmerman after weeks of protests that were held because there were many who felt that the investigation at the the sanford police department and the shooting of george zimmerman was racially motivated

in some way. the fbi was investigating whether there were civil rights violations. we're going to look and hear some of what they turned up. but, again, it's evidence. don't expect to get any final results. in other words, you're not going to get a ruling by the fbi. other things we're going to look for, other witnesses that have been interviewed, 21 civilian witnesses are described. that's on top of the police officers. we're also expecting to get diagrams that will be coming from the crime scene photos. there's also apparently information coming from a private investigator that trayvon martin's family hired. interviews done at the gun shop where george zimmerman bought the gun that he eventually would use to kill trayvon martin. of course, he claims that that was in self-defense. a lot of things to go through. it's only just beginning. >> some of this new evidence was released by prosecutors. now, before we saw those

interrogation tapes that were released by defense attorneys but this time it's the prosecution's turn. why are they releasing this evidence? >> well, here's the way the process works. the prosecutor's office must first turn the evidence over to the defense team. this was worked out as a result of a negotiation between the press wanting to have access to it but the defense team saying, wait a minute, we need to see it first. we're providing the defendants for george zimmerman. there's a 30-day waiting period from when the material is released by the prosecutor's office to when the defense says, it's okay to release generally to the public. that's what this is. this is the public release. the defense has had it for some time. >> i'll let you get to it. martin savidge, thank you so much. even if you don't have directv, the fight between the satellite giant and viacom is getting really nasty now. because the video that you could once watch online, now not available because of this fight.

between directv and viacom it's heating up now. it was the 20 million directv customers that could not watch viacom like nickelodeon and comedy central. now nobody can watch those shows online. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange with more of this nasty battle. >> yes, it's turning into quite the battle royale. the gloves are off now. here's the latest. less than 24 hours after directv dropped viacom from programming because of this big pricing dispute, viacom has now dropped

its own shows online. so those popular shows like sponge bob, square points, the daily show, "jersey shore," teen mom, you can't see them on viacom's site. when you go to click the video, you get this statement. this content isn't currently available. directv is saying in a statement that viacom is now holding viewers but directv captive as well. viacom has not pulled all of its shows, just the most popular ones. even those who don't have directv, when you go to mtv.com, there's a huge ad that takes over the whole page telling everyone that directv had the gall to drop their channels. >> it is interesting that directv is so upset about this given that they are so upset about how much viacom has made

content available for free online. >> funny, isn't it? they are saying two different things. directv saying yesterday it has no problem compromising and the ratings have plummeted and much of the programming can be seen for free online. that was one of their big sticking points. clearly directv wasn't happy that viacom has all of the shows up and out there for free. the big problem will be that viacom is using viewers as pawns. they are not just keeping directv customers from their programming but everybody else, too. to be continued, carol. >> i'm sure. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. we are just minutes away from vice president joe biden's speech at the naacp convention. it will probably be a lot different than mitt romney's speech was. i'm thinking joe biden won't be booed. we'll be right back. been all fus here at the hutchison household. but one dark stormy evening... there were two things i could tell: she needed a good meal and a good family.

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just about 30 oh minutes past the hour, here are the top stories now. former fbi director louis freeh is now releasing details of the penn state's handling of the jerry sandusky sex scandal. among the findings, it shows a total disregard for victims of sexual abuse and failed to protect children. also this hour, florida state's attorney is releasing new information in the trayvon martin shooting. the report could shed new light on whether race played a role in the killing of the unarmed 17-year-old. according to a new realty report, more than one million

homes -- one million people filed for foreclosure so far this year but so far there is an improvement over last year. parts of texas under water. several inches fell yesterday and that triggered flooding. temperatures should stay below 90 for the first time in days. and we're waiting on vice president joe biden to get his key note address to the naacp address in houston. the obama campaign says the president could not attention the convention due to a scheduling conflict. but that reason has raised some eyebrows. especially since the president's public schedule is pretty light today. listen to reporters trying to get a straight answer from the white house press secretary. >> in 2010, the first lady addressed the convention and last year the president met with ben in the oval office to

address many of the concerns in the african-american community and we'll be speaking at the convention this year. again, he's spoken before the organization in the past. >> jim acosta is at the naacp convention. are people upset that president obama is not going to be there? >> reporter: carol, there are a few members of the naacp that we have talked to who have said that they are disappointed that the president is not coming. keep in mind, this is a very supportive audience. and the vice president is coming here. and it's going to be interesting to hear what he has to say, carol, because we have not gotten an indication yet as to what mr. biden is going to be telling this crowd here. and if the past is any guide,

carol, you know, when joe biden has been carrying out that role of campaign attack dog. it will be interesting to see how joe biden goes after mitt romney today, if he goes after mitt romney today. because on a separate track from this, it there is all of this talk about what happened with mitt romney. on a separate track this morning, both campaigns are cusing one another of not telling the truth. the romney campaign has an ad out this morning, shame on you, barack obama, taking the president to task on some of the claims that have been made in his ads recently and the obama campaign, lee tell you, in the next half hour is holding a conference call with reporters to talk about an article that is now in the boston globe that reports -- and let me just explain this. it's a little complicated but i'll try to do it as quickly as possible, that back in 2001, bain capital, mitt romney's former investment firm, filed a

document that shows romney as president and ceo of bain capital. why is that important? because the romney campaign has repeatedly said that he left that position in 1999. so anything that happened after that is not attributed to mitt romney or hifault. all of this is coming under discussion. the obama campaign put out a statement saying that he is not telling the truth about when he left bain capital. it will be interesting to see whether or not the vice president picks up and runs with this. >> i bet he will. the other thing he will pick up and run with, mitt romney used the term obama care and how he would repeal it. the african-americans and the -- >> reporter: he might do that. that's right. he mighto that.

there have been some democrats who have said, we like the term "obama care" because it almost sounds like obama cares. it's going to be interesting, getting back to the bain capital story, to see if it's talked about at all. the romney campaign put out a statement saying about this s.e.c. filing, that is a technical filing with the s.e.c. just because mitt romney's name is on the filing of the s.e.c. doesn't mean he had day to day operations at s.e.c. he wasn't running the company after 1999 when he went to run the olympics. so all of this is just now becoming very interesting and we'll be talking about it all day long. >> okay. so what did bain capital supposedly do after 1999 that democrats say it shouldn't?

>> okay. it goes back to an oem campaign ad that's been running in recent weeks. basically what this ad has stated is that at bain capital when mitt romney was in charge, the company was advising other companies on how to outsource jobs out of the united states. and the romney campaign has said, wait main, you can't say that because after 1999 mitt romney was no longer at bain capital. so the reason why these s.e.c. filings are interesting and possibly important is that if these filings establish that perhaps he was more involved at bain capital than he's previously stated, perhaps there's a contradiction there. there's a discrepancy there. they are saying mit mitt romney's not telling the truth. just because his name is on the form as the owner, ceo, president, doesn't mean that he

was involved in bain's operations after 1999. that's the back and forth. it's just getting started and it ain't going to be over for quite a while. >> and it's raining so we'll let you go. jim acosta, be thank you so much. actor robert blake has a new book out. he also has a big chip on his shoulder. listen to this after piers morgan asks blake about the murder of his wife. >> i'm asking you questions about what i presumed to be a very important moment in your life. you've written a book about your life. >> i wrote a book about my life. i didn't write a book about that night and i didn't write a book about bonnie. >> it gets better, though. a.j. hammer has pulled some of the most heated exchanges. and cg just you know walking, sfx: sounds of marching band and crowd cheering and i found myself in the middle of this parade noring america's troops. sfx: sounds of marching band and crowd cheering which is actually inquite fitting becausearade noring america's troops. geico has been serving e military for over 75 years. aawh no, look, i know this is about the troops and not about me.

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piers morgan wanted to give robert blake an opportunity to clear the air about his wife's murder back in 2001. the actor known for his temper almost as much for his roles like beretta, apparently did not like piers' tone. >> tell me why i'm lying. because if you don't know i'm telling you the truth, you must have a little scratch in the back of your head about where i'm lying. tell me where i'm lie glg you're saying i i'm not saying the truth. >> i don't care. you put me on the stand. >> why are you being so defensive? >> because you just insulted me.

>> i didn't insult you. >> yes, you did. nobody tells me i'm a liar. >> i didn't call you a liar. >> you said, i might not be telling the truth. what the hell is the difference? i don't want to take this anyplace special. all i want -- let me say it this way. my skin is a little bit thin. >> sure. >> which is why i stay away from people mostly. i've never allowed people to ask me the questions that i'm answering. i allowed you to do that because i trust you and i would have assumed that you and that guy in your ear would trust me and if you don't, then we better start talking about the "little rascals." >> hmm. you might remember, blake was acquitted of his wife's murder in 2005 and then later found libel in a wrongful death civil

suit. a.j. hammer is here. >> it was strange. the whole reason he went on the show was to promote his memoir, "tales of a rascal." so piers asked the questions that i think everyone wanted asked. here now is another combative exchanges between them last night. >> you're just like the cops. there's no place to get. keep him in jail until he dies because everybody's who is dead is guilty. why would i marry her if i was going to kill her? i was worth $25 million. i could have hired someone to kill her when she was in tibet or someplace. she drove all over the country. i could have hired someone to follow her for ten months and make her disappear so nobody would ever find her. i went out to dinner to kill her? what the [ bleep ] is wrong with you? >> i didn't say you killed her. >> you didn't say i didn't. why don't you ask me some really

interesting questions. >> so there you have it, carol. this is how it went on and on and on. it was so strange to see him sitting there and saying, well, if i wanted to kill her, here's the things that i could have done as opposed to what actually ended up happening. i suppose all the time he spent in prison he had time to think about how he would have done it if he had done it. i don't really know what to make of it all. >> it's just all so pathetic in a way. he says he has no friends and the only love he has comes from fans. and he also talked about some sort of comeback. >> yeah. he was talking about the fact that he was having such a hard time breaking back into show business, his big dream to be back on the screen. he was very upset. this has been an emotional roller coaster ride, and blake tried to explain why it has been such an emotional experience for him. watch this. >> there's no question that i'm

very thin-skinned and i'm frightened. and there's no question that [ bleep ]. there's no question that i take things that you say too seriously and too much to heart. and i do misrepresent what people say to me because i know i'm still hurt and i may be hurt for the rest of my life. >> next piers asked blake who he thought killed his wife and he didn't get anywhere with that line of questioning and that really didn't surprise any of us. >> wow. that's all i can say. wow. a.j. hammer, thanks so much. >> you got it. any minute now, vice president joe biden will make the keynote speech at the naacp convention.

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america that we love, an america where we're looking out for the middle class and america where we're creating ladders for the american people to get into the middle class. that's my promise to you. if you keep standing with me. if you keep per serve veering, i know we can arrive there together. thank you so much. i'm proud of all that you do, michelle, malia, sasha, and i all send our deepest regards. >> all right. president obama, a taped statement to the naacp. as you know, be there was a lot of criticism that the president was not going to appear in person and speak to african-american voters.

jim acosta is at the convention. maybe this wasn't as much of a surprise. right, jim? >> reporter: right. and i should say, the naacp conference here played a video message from president obama. it was fairly generic. it's not really clear when he recorded this video because he doesn't really respond to what happened here yesterday when mitt romney spoke before this group. but he gave some and at one point said we're looking out for the middle class. >> we did check out the president's schedule -- and of course we can't know all that is on the president's schedule but he appears to have a light schedule, briefings in the morning and then an interview with charlie rose, i think.

>> that's right. cbs news does have an interview with the president and that could be a reason why he could not be down here in houston. but like you said, we don't know everything that was put on the schedule. but -- and the white house has said it's a scheduling conflict. i think you played that earlier where the white house press corps tried to bin down the press secretary on this and that was interesting to watch. i think the vice president may be coming out here in just a few moments and what will be kind of interesting to watch for is whether he reprices that attack role. he did that when he spoke for that group and went after mitt romney in front of those folks. it will be interesting to see what the vice president has to say. >> you know, it's interesting, i was saying maybe pesident obama

will skooip, you know, talk to the naacp via skooip. well, he almost did exactly that. but back to joe biden, you talked about him being this attack dog and very passionate in his remarks and really like rolling up the culture war, right? >> well, the other day he went after the hispanic audience and talking about the massachusetts's governor's decision not to release the tax returns and joe biden said to that crowd, governor romney wants you to show your papers but he won't show his. so that was just one sort of blistering line by joe biden and he's done that at several other events. we're listening to see whether he does that after mitt romney

again and feel like he connects better than the president does, in places like ohio and pennsylvania and so even though joe biden has talked to predominantly african-american audiences and saying that romney will carry easy, obviously the message is meant to go beyond the border. >> jim acosta, i know you're standing by to wait for joe biden to appear behind that podium. we're going to take a quick break. cuts through water. forms a broad spectrum barrier for full strength sun protection. wet skin. neutrogena®. use the points we earn with our citi thankyou card for a relaxing vacation. ♪ sometimes, we go for a ride in the park. maybe do a little sightseeing. or, get some fresh air.

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okay. joe biden was supposed to be speaking at the naacp convention around 10:30 eastern time, but as you can see, things are running late. we have jim acosta on the phone. so what exactly are they doing, jim? >> they are getting ready for joe biden to come out on this stage he might be running a few minutes late. there was a really big storm that came through houston earlier this morning and it's sort of wreaking havoc with people's flight schedules. people are trying to leave houston. one thing i can tell you, it's about half full. it is a pretty lightly attended audience. this is certainly not packed to

the rafters and it's roughly at the same size that mitt romney had yesterday, it will be interesting to kind of watch the crowd's reactions to what joe biden has to say and obviously because of the perception of mitt romney was not always that positive. so we'll see if that changes here today. one thing that we picked up on is that, you know, romney's message, while it may have upset some folks here at the naacp, really wowed conservatives. they were talking all over online and they thought this was one of his best speeches. so he really fired up the conservative and it will be interesting to see if joe biden tries to sort of return fire and do the same