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florida teams up with homeland security. the state's new tool in their voter purge fund. plus -- we want him returned to boston safely. >> two americans kidnapped in egypt. and now we have new details and their names. the family of one hostage tells us what they think happened. and later, your money or your wife? how you can prevent finance from ruining your romance. tips from our financial expert. good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. it is 7:00 on the east coast, 4:00 a.m. on the west. thanks for starting your morning with us. glad you're here. we start with politics and the obama administration giving in to florida. the state will now have access to a department of homeland security data base on immigrants. part of florida's effort to clear illegal voters off their voter rolls. florida d sued the government

for access to the data base. the federal government had challenged florida's efforts in court but lost. to washington now. it's going to be a big week for ben bernanke on. tuesday the federal reserve chairman is scheduled to testify before the senate for his semi annual report on the economy. he's required to appear twice a year. in addition to questions about additional stimulus policies, he could be asked about libor and the u.k. rate fixing scandal that's impacted roughly $10 trillion in loans around the world. that's your credit card rate, your car loan perhaps, and maybe even your home mortgage. in other politics, secretary of state hillary clinton is in egypt this morning wrapping up meetings with top officials including the head of the country's military. it comes a day after clinton's visit with newly elected egyptian president mohamed morsi whose transition to power has included a struggle with military leadership. you may recall the military took control of the government after former president hosni mubarak was ousted more than a year ago.

joining me now from cairo is our cnn foreign affairs reporter. good morning. secretary clinton pushed morsi to assert the full authority of presidency. is she trying, do you think, to send a signal to military leaders? >> reporter: very much so. i think she's trying to send a message to everybody that democratic transition, everybody has a role. she's urging president morsy to get a constitution together, put a government together, and put together a parliament. of course, the military needs to try and step back now. she said yesterday during her meeting with morsi, urging the military to move back to its national security role. and to hand over to civilian authority. she's saying basically to the military, get back to your day job. if you look at sinai for instance on the border with israel, we have two american -- americans and their driver kidnapped over the weekend. that border is very unstable.

you've got a lot of work to do on the security. leave the politics to the democratically elected president. >> and how were her comments received? when she met with the head of egypt's military? >> reporter: well, i think he took -- he definitely got the message. and this is something that everyone in egypt, you still see protests in tahrir square an around the world. people saying what -- what -- they need to focus on the economy and looking for u.s. budget support. you have $1.3 billion in u.s. aid to the egyptian military. they want to make sure that military aid is intact. but definitely will -- during secretary clinton's trip, one of the issues that she's pushing is how can the u.s. help egypt's fragile economy? how can they help foster jobs, growth, increase tourism? a lot of the issues that led to the downfall because there was poverty and despair. secretary clinton listening to what president morsi's plans are, talking to the military about maintaining that relationship. but also how can the u.s. best

help egypt now with the economy. >> and what about the situation there in egypt with the muslim brotherhood now in power? is mrs. clinton concerned about women's rights in egypt? >> reporter: i think she's very concerned. president morsi has made some positive statements about equal rights for women, equal rights for minorities. what she's saying is, she's pointing to the comments and holding the president's feet to the fire and say we appreciate the comments, we hope you're going to make good on them. today secretary clinton met with women's groups, christians including those who have been marginalized in the country in the past, and democratic activists and saying, listen, i understand you've been marginalized, i understand there are a lot of concerns. but you need to assert yourself. you need to take responsibility for your role in the new egypt. i think that's really the theme here. talking to a lot of different audiences and saying egypt has so much work to do, and you have to work together to move the country forward.

>> thank you very much. this morning a family in boston is praying for the safe return of this man. his name is reverend michel louis. and he is one of the americans who was kidnapped from a tour bus in egypt while on a mission trip. earlier, i spoke with one of reverend louis' son, jean. he got unique insight on what happened from his mother who was on the same bus during the kidnapping but was unharmed. here's what he told me. >> as the tour bus was in the area of the sinai peninsula and egypt, they were stopped by a couple of cars. and on the cars -- in the cars, there were some gentlemen and some people that got on to the bus. and they detained both my father, reverend michel louis, and another member of another church that was also in -- part

of the missionary group that was on their way to israel. >> did your mother understand what was happening at the time? was it obvious that this was a kidnapping? >> she says that, you know, everything happened at once. it was all of the sudden. and i just -- she even right now it seems like a dream to her. a nightmare. >> what can you tell us about this other person that was abducted along with your father? >> all we can say is she was a member of another church that is very close -- that does close fellowship with our church. their pastor is a very close friend of my father, pastor reverend michel louis. and that member does go to that church. >> i'm curious because there have been other kidnappings in this area.

was your father aware of the risks? was he aware at all of what had been happening there? >> to tell you the truth, if we were aware because i read some of the comments that are being left in regards to the story. if we were aware, i want to believe we would use correct judgment not to enter that area. so there's a very -- we want to say that he was not aware that there was any issue of that -- of that amount in that area. >> right. how concerned are you about your father's health? >> we -- we are concerned. but we're christians, and we believe in god. we're in good faith. we're resolved in our faith. we're -- we're -- we know that god is going to see him out of

the situation. but at the same time, too, we're human. and we just want to see our father get home. we want to see the sister, member get home also. and we want to see the tour guide, too. i'm sure no -- a lot of people are not speaking about him, too. we want to see everybody come home safely. he is diabetic. so that's the only concern we might have. we -- we have not spoken to him, i especially have not spoken to him since i dropped him at the airport on tuesday. so we just would like the release. and hopefully he's being treated very well where he is. >> and jean says the family is staying resolved in its faith and believing in a positive outcome. noting that the several branches of the federal government including the u.s. embassy and office of massachusetts senator

scott brown have been very helpful, he says. we turn now to syria. a place where the diplomats keep talking, but the body counts keep rising. today more than 14 people have been killed. this comes as the u.n. observers are returning to the site of had they call a massacre in tremseh. more than 200 people were killed there last week. they say mankind is the smartest species on the planet. but wait until you see these primates. lemurs are showing their smart side. but the sad news is, they could be on their way to extinction. at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go.

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impressed. they say lemurs are deep thinkers who understand numbers and sequencing. even abstract thinking. here in duke, they have the largest captive collection of lemurs in the world. lemurs have received a lot less attention than apes and monkeys when it comes to researching how they think. but the folks here at the duke lemur center are looking into how lemurs think because they believe they can offer insight into how our primate ancestors thought about 75 million years ago. isn't that right? duke university professor elizabeth brannon heads up the lemur research here. >> hey, pedro. thanks for helping out today. >> she says lemurs are so sophisticated had it comes to numbers, they rival monkeys. and like human babies, lemurs understand numbers without actually understanding language. we got to see for ourselves how smart lemurs are. my jaw dropped as i watched these primates from madagascar

take tests on a computer. this lemur has learned to recognize which square has more red dots. he uses his nose, and if he picks the right one, which he mostly does, a sugar pellet drops down. lemurs love sweets. >> we're asking can the lemur learn an abstract rule about numbers. can the lemur learn that he always has to choose the smaller number or the larger number? and apply this to pictures that he's had no training on. a long time ago it was thought that lemurs weren't capable of doing a lot of things that other primate were. and the cognitive domain. so in some ways this is surprising how well they're able to do in this task. >> reporter: what else surprised professor brannon? that lemurs, like humans, avoid risk. >> we figured out that they really don't like to gamble. >> reporter: how does she know? in this test lemurs are taught that if they choose the photograph of the train, they could get a bunch of sugar

pellets as a reward or possibly no pellet at all. if they choose the safe option, the flag photo, they always get one pellet. brannon says lemurs are smart enough to make an association between the photograph and the outcome. why does any of this matter? professor brannon says it can help humans figure out how our thinking evolved. >> what are the fundamental building blocks upon which complex human cultures and systems of knowledge are built? and by studying these kinds of thought processes in lemurs and monkeys, in apes and other animals, we can ben to shed insight into that kind of question. >> and while professor brannon doesn't expect lemurs to be learning calculus any time soon, she does believe we've only scratched the surface of their amazing intelligence. can't get enough of their little faces. to give you an idea how serious

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couples fight. one of the most frequent topics for those battles is money. fights over where the money is going are one of the main causes for divorce. how do you avoid the traps of this very sensitive issue? financial planner karen lee joining us this morning to talk about love and money. >> yep. >> you have great tips, i know. >> i do. >> and your book "it's just money" is pretty much full of great tips. >> right. >> let me start with why do couples fight? there's so much to fight about. why do they tend to focus on the finances? >> it's one of the big ones. my personal near theory is tha all have a relationship with money. this relationship is rooted in the way we were raised as well as our life experience. now when you take marriage, often, not always, but often opposites attract. i know that happened in my marriage. my -- my father was an immigrant. so i'm a first generation american. whereas my husband comes from centuries of americans. when we got married at 25, 26, we certainly didn't talk about our different views about money. i think when you put that

together, it can really become a pressurecooker. >> so what happens when a couple is arguing over money and they can't agree on anything about money? what do you tell them? >> i say let's start with communication. so first of all, let's face it, we don't talk about money in this country. it's taboo. typically in a marriage we let one person handle it because they like it more, they're better at it. and the other person's out of the loop. so i recommend for couples that don't have regular talks about money, let's start with communication. where are we right now? what's our overall picture, how much debt -- do you know how many people do not know what their debt slowed now. how much do you have in savings. what works, what doesn't work. and let's start scheduling some regular times to talk about our financial -- >> communication is key. >> key. >> what about recommendations for those who have different ideas? some people are savers. maybe your husband or wife is a spender and wants to enjoy it while they have. it what do you recommend? >> right. something that works in lots of things in marriage which is

compromise. first of all, when there's a -- >> compromise in marriage? >> we know there are usually the saver vs. the spender. what we need to recognize is that they -- we try to make the saver always right and the spender always wrong. if doesn't always work well -- it doesn't always work well that way. some savers, and i tell you about this personally, are literally living in fear of never having enough. they try to control so heavily the spending that the person in charge of the family budget doesn't have any leniency. so both people need to look at where they come from and try to move to a more central position. >> yeah. that goes back to the fear of running out of money. and your upbringing. if compromise is out of the question, what do they do? >> obviously now we're talking counseling, but not necessarily -- >> knew you were going there. >> three cs. not always therapy. if your problem is debt and unable to get past a debt situation, consider debt counseling, debt consolidation. if you're living with the one person that has that fear of

never having enough, financial planning can be a wonderful solution. financial planning helps you assess if -- where we are right now, if it's enough, what we're doing, and maybe we can loosen up a little bit on the spending. >> given this is a big problem in a lot of marriages, i mean, if you're planning on getting married or have a son or daughter planning on getting married, you think they should talk to somebody beforehand? >> they first need sit down with each other and practice full disclosure. i hear of relationships that break up during the engagement phase because they did not know how much debt the other person had. >> then you take that on. >> come clean. how much debt am i bringing into the marriage? how do i feel about saving and debt? and you know the best thing couples can do to ensure a better marriage? have goals and dreams for the future that they're planning for, and the saving aligns with those dreams. >> right. got to save and enjoy. find the right balance. >> the balance. >> all right. it's just money, but it causes so many problems. >> it does.

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