>> that is qu"early start" for this week. >> "starting point" with soledad o'brien starts right now. that's great advice. our starting point this morning, a look at the new jobs numbers, what they can mean for your family and financial outlook and race for the white house this morning. cal ripken jr. is speaking out about his mother's kidnapping as we get our first look at the suspect on surveillance video. he will join me later this morning. america's newest sweetheart and living legend. a magical night for gabby douglas and michael phelps at the olympics. a coal mine company closing and leaders are blaming president obama but is there really a war on coal? we'll talk to the founder of the coal company. we have a packed show, baseball legend cal ripken jr. and rea

ins priebus and dominique dawes and ryan beatty. "starting point" begins right now. our starting poirnt this morning, america's new golden girl is gabby douglas making history last night. 16 years old, first african-american to women the all-around gold medal. amanda davies, it was so z exciting to watch her. just perfection, out did herself each and every time. how was the feeling while everyone was watching her? >> reporter: it was incredible. it was probably written in the stars, did you know if you rearrange the letters of gabby

douglas's sir name, what does it spell, but usa gold. and this really is where the next chapter of her life begins. she is now up in the a list of superstars as the morning after, night before, media commitments have started. she's been retweeting the incredible tweets these had from people like oprah nicki minaj and michael phelps. she finished with that fantastic floor performance with that techno music. it became like club gabby. we can still get on the bandwagon and still team gabby, london 2012 t-shirts for sale on the website. >> of course, because that's only just begun. this should be the opportunity to rake in lots of money after all of those years of training. let's talk about michael phelps, he was able to avenge an earlier loss to his fellow american, ryan lochte, made history again

i guess. won the 200 meter individual medley yesterday. tell me how that was. >> michael phelps has said he made a few promises to himself ahead of the games. he hasn't revealed them but hasn't necessarily met his expectations in the first week. one of them he certainly achieved last night, that was becoming the first man to win the gold medal in the same event at three olympic games, the 300 meters individual medley and beat his teammate, ryan lochte to do so. just to put into context what michael phelps achieved in his career. this is his final olympic games, if you look at the list of countries and where michael phelps would stand if he were a country, he has more medals than 84% of them. that is quite incredible. more medals than 170 of 204 countries. if this was being ranked on just swimming achievements, you would be the seventh best country in

history, which is quite some achievement for one individual. and of course, he can win another medal tonight. he's going in the 100 meters butterfly as well. >> all right, so he's being compared to countries now, a good sign. >> amanda davies, thanks, appreciate it. >> in a few minutes, i'll talk once again to dominique dawes, about her thoughts about gabby douglas capturing the gold. gabby douglas said that dominique and '96 team are her role models. christine has a look at the top story this morning. >> the u.n. general assembly will vote later today to denounce the syrian government for attacking andkying its own citizens in aleppo and damascus as the peace-keeping chief warns the main battle is about to begin in aleppo. at semably will warn the assad regime to keep strict control over its chemical and biological

weapons. the resolution coming one day after former u.n. secretary kofi annan resigned his position and saying he's frustrating by finger pointing at the unite the nations while syrians are being slaughtered. ernesto could head into the gulf of mexico. rob has the latest on the storm's track. >> good morning. just past barbados and lashing s stluca this is cruising. it has dry air and head winds to encounter as well. we don't expect it to explode, but it has a lot of warm water to work with over the next several days. the official forecast shoots it through the caribbean over the weekend develop and potentially into a category one storm or even greater, getting towards the yucatan andaybe into the

gulf of mexico by the middle and end of next week. the direction is fairly confident. the question is the intensity and how long it lasts. speaking of intensity, the peak of hurricane season, christine, ramping up, getting into september 10th at the month of august certainly will be more active than the last month. we're already seeing that for sure with ernesto. >> thanks, rob. legendary major leaguer cal ripken jr. speaking out about his mother's kidnapper. the fbi receives new leads in the case, a new surveillance video and sketch of the kidnapper has been released by local authorities in maryland. and tips are pouring in. violet rip ken, the 74-year-old mother was abducted at her home at gun point and found then the next morning, unharmed but tied up in her car close to home.

cal ripken jr. will join us in the next hour of "starting point." >> when we come back -- i guess we're going to keep going and talk to the latest on the golden girl, gabby douglas, first african-american, fourth american female to win the competition in the all-around. dominique dawes was a member of the magnificent seven, '96 gold medal team. great to talk to you. what's your take on this? it was amazing to watch her, just be phenomenal. but as someone who has been there, what did you think? >> it was a very difficult night for me. i'm here in london reporting for fox sports.com. i'm sitting in the media section and not supposed to show my response but i was on the edge of my seat the whole competition. it was so difficult not having control. though gabby douglas made

everyone proud and made history. i have bags from crying so hard. my response is on fox sports.com and i was genuinely touched by what this young girl has done and impact she's going to make. >> you and everyone else too. >> does this mean her life completely changes, she's on pt wheaties box and endorsements roll in and her life will be different? >> her life will completely change but hopefully her personality will not. she comes from a good family, natalie has been supportive of her. her mom really is proud, to see this young girl succeed. i know she's going to do amazing things, she has great opportunities coming up and wants to make a positive impact on young kids. i envision she's going to go down that road. >> let me ask about pressure on her or things she will do now. is it hard to be a first, you know, you were the first as i said african-american who was winning an individual olympic

bronze medal in yo case on the floor routine in '96. what's the pressure like? or is it an amazing experience? >> with me being the first african-american to win a gold medal in the team competition, being part of that team, that was again a first. you don't think about that when you're preparing for the competition. it would have been too overwhelming to think about representing my race at that time. when i got back home, i felt all of the love and prayers from people who supported me and knew the impact i could make. i'm sure it's the same for gabby. she wasn't thinking about the impact she could make before she went up for her floor routine. when she gets back to the states, she's going to feel it. and hopefully she'll pursue things that are positive and that she's passionate about and that will truly leave a lasting impact in other people's lives. >> i've got to ask you about hair as a black female gymnast and you saw -- it was trending on twitter, the conversations about gabby's hair which made me

so mad for celebrating this great winner people are tweeting about her pulled back pony tail. what did you do about that? the girl is doing routines, she's an athlete. >> soledad, if you remember my career, i had a permanent bun, my hair was always sweated out, relaxed hair. it was really dry. i've finally gone natural which is what i'm encouraging african-american women to do, to stop relaxing your kids' hair, you can sweat it out and it won't get dry and brittle. trust me, he was not concerned about her hair and i was not when i was training for my three olympics. if i was more concerned about my appearance, i wobt be sitting here talking to you today having made history and made it to the three olympics, shiz not concerned and will have an amazing hair stylist soon enough. someone will run to her and put on this new look. her hair looked perfectly fine

and at the end of the day, it's not someone's hair but their heart and character and work aejic that makes a difference. have your hair in a bun and win the gold versus have a perfectly quofed look. >> or last place or not even be there. >> exactly. dominique dawes there's a big giant poster of you with your hair pulled back in a bun and giant scrunchy. >> i love it and i love the work he's done with chelsea piers, a great facility. >> we're going to be talking about the whole hair thing when we do our get real. we're talking politics. mitt romney hanging out with republican governors. has he asked any of them to be his vp. we'll check in with rnc chairman up next. >> we have to take a break. we're back in just a moment. mene ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 you get at some places.

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site violates the terms of service. they made that disclosure in an updated filing yesterday. soledad? >> thank you very much. ahead on "starting point," a mine closes in ohio and the company blames presidt obama. we'll talk to the ceo to find out what he's saying. she made history, gabby douglas wins another gold medal, yet on twitter, people are talking about her hair. get real. plus, our starting point team heading in to talk about that. abbi huntsman and ryan lizza and richard socarides. we're not picking your requests any more, brick house by the commodores. this is the way to startthe morning, ryan. ♪ this is actually starting to feel real now. [ ross ] this is the perfect place to test the ats's advanced aerodynamics. [ derek ] we've got crosswinds, tailwinds, headwinds.

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kindergarten teacher. >> "kindergarten cop". >> one of the greatest schwarzenegger movies. >> was it really? >> wasn't one of his best. thanks, christine. appreciate it. our team, ryan lizza, you should have heard my picks pore the music this morning. >> it is viewer appreciation friday which means we don't get to weigh in with our picks, he's also a washington correspondent for "the new yorker" and abby huntsman. and let's talk about gabby douglas, hugely talented, sleeping with her gold medal now. won the individual all-around and helped the team win the gold overall. first time, in 16 years made history, powered through her eventless almost flor -- flawless, that's my long island coming out.

>> take the girl out of smithtown. >> but can't lose the accent completely. you can see what she was doing, the flips and her floor routine was amazing and valt was incredible. one after the other. was trending on twitter yesterday about her was her hair. >> of course it is. ridiculous. >> i was so mad. love twitter and hate twitter because this is what twitter does. >> gets too personal i think. >> it does. >> negative energy sometimes. >> she's got slicked back pony tail and obviously she's sweating because hello, she's an elite caliber athlete in the middle of the olympics and -- >> she looks so beautiful. >> gorgeous girl. >> this is a great get real because what you want to say is get real, you know. >> why do you think we call it get real? not just an accident we call it this. >> the amazing thing about twitter, people will say things on twitter you won't see to anybody's face or on e-mail or.

she looks so beautiful. >> captures what people are really thinking because they don't think twice. >> her hair aside, i love her story, there's been biographical pieces and this was someone not considered at the top of her game. >> even the karolyis thought, well, she's good. >> went from zero to 100 no time at all, totally underestimate and killed it. >> such a great model. everybody's hair looks like that. if we could do flips and vaults -- >> i was looking at her body. she has the best figure i've ever seen. she's amazing. forget the hair. >> she would stick it and bounce again. like she knew she was winning. amazing, we're so proud of her. that's great. we want to know what you think about this story or any of our stories, you can send us

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closing it down, blaming president obama for the closure. we'll tell you why. we'll look into whether the president is to blame. we'll talk to the founder, robert murray. christe, good morning. >> good morning, again. the fbi is now investigating the death of a 21-year-old mississippi man. this man was shot in the head and killed while he was handcuffed in the back of a police car in jonesboro, arkansas, police insist he committed suicide last saturday night and officers who searched him originally failed to detect he had a gun. carter's family thinks cops killed him and they are covering it up. he was detained after police found marijuana am his car. a horrific bus crash in southern illinois, 25-year-old aditi avhad was traveling and a

tire blew out sending the bus crashing. injuries ranged from minor to very serious. >> the worst drought to hit the u.s. in deck atd aids, forcing officials to close the mississippi river to boat river. barge tows running aground in greenville arkansas and wisconsin because of low water levels. no word when those portions of the mississippi will be reopened. several other vessels have run aground in recent days, snarling freight lanes. waste and employee theft at amtrak, taking a toll on taxpayers, according to government auditors, amtrak loses more than $80 million a year on its food and beverage service alone. get this, congress passed a law back in 1981 requiring the railroad's food and beverage business must break even ever year and that has never happened once. amtrak charges passengers 2 bucks for a soft drink but it cost the railroad $3.40 to serve each better average when you add in the labor cost.

a hamburger goes for $9.50 but cost amtrak 16 bucks for each one it sells and throw in employee theft and amtrak squandered $834 million of taxpayer money over the past decade, according to government auditors. house republicans have been clo forced to close a loophole uncovered by cnn. it requires lawmakers to report all stock trades of $1,000 or more within 45 days. members of the house had a rather unique interpretation. they didn't think the law applied to their spses or dependents. the bill's sponsor scot brown, not to pleased about that. >> let's say i find out information and tell my wife and she goes and trades on it, what's the difference? >> the whole point of this legislation is that we should play by the exact same rules as every other american citizen. when all of america looks at washington, they know it's

broken. >> because of cnn's reporting, dana bash's reporting there, the senate and house passed new legislation that closes the loophole that would have allowed family members of some lawmakers to profit from the inside stock information that comes across the desks of the people we pay to represent us. soled soledad? >> i'm stunned. >> dana bash did a great job on that. congress exempted itself from the law. >> created a law and exempted spouses at least. good going, dana. >> this morning we're looking at coal, an ohio mining company shutting down its operations. that will happen in the fall laying off all workers. they say it's the president's fault. a statement says this, regulatory actions by president barack obama and his appoint ees and followers were cited as the entire reason of the closure. the mine is located nearril yant ohio. right now they have 56

employees. 32 of them have been told they will be transferred within the company. overall the coal industry has been suffering. the united states used 124 million fewer tons of coal than four years earlier and the competition, natural gas, has become lots cheaper to use. ohio american energy is a subsidiary of murray corporation and mr. murray is the founder and president and ceo. nice to see you. thanks for talking with us. when we read your press release yesterday you blamed regulatory actions by president barack obama. what specific regulatory actions are you referring to that you specifically say are being blamed for the closure of this company? >> good morning, ma'am. yes, ma'am, president obama is responsible entirely for the closure of that mine and loss of those jobs. so far according to his own energy information agency, he has closed 175 power plants,

coal fired power plants in the united states of america. >> i was asking though about -- >> being eliminated. >> i was asking though about the specific -- you talk about regulations. i wanted to know which were the regulations you felt specifically were to blame for the fact this mining operation was going to have to shut down? >> those are some of the specific regulations. the many regulations that he and his radical appointees and the u.s. epa have put on the use of coal. there are dozens of them and collectively by his own energy administration have closed 175 power plants. in addition, we cannot get permits for these mines. they are delaying the issuance of permits. if you can't get the permit, you can't have the mine. ma'am, i'm very distraut this morning because this is a human issue to me. i created those jobs and put the

investment in that mine. and when it came time to lay the people off, i went up personally and talked to everyone of them myself to lay them off. it's a human issue. obama -- >> forgive me for interrupting. people who are environmentalists, often clashing with the coal companies would also say it's a human issue. your attorney mentioned three specific rules so i'll name them, the clean air interstate rule known as c.a.r.e., put in place in 2005, before president obama and the stay on that law, it hasn't been implemented yesterdyet. the national a.m. bee ant air quality standard for certain things like carbon dioxide and led and particle pollution, not only monitored but limited so they can't drift from one coal

production into another state. so i think environmentalists would say that these are rules that are actually very valuable. talk about caring for people, to -- in terms of people's health as well. some of them started not under president obama but started way before president obama came into office. >> you are correct and incorrect both. though the care act enacted in 2005 did protect the health of people and did allow the coal industry to exist. it is what the obama administration has done with those rules over the years and implemented since he took office. he said when he took office if you build a coal powered plant in america we're going to bankrupt you. joe biden said no coal am america. they are making good on that promise. as i started to say it's a human issue because he's destroying the lives and livelihoods of many people i know by name.

these jobs will never come back. >> let me ask you a question, some of those jobs if we're talking about appalachian coal, that's correct. but it's under the same regulations if you look at western coal that they've had tremendous growth. western coal production is up, same exact epa regulations. if you look western coal makes up 47% of coal production. that's going up. that's going to go up to 56% in the next several years. in ohio though, that coal production will drop to 29%. when you talk about bankrupting, i would assume if there are violations of air quality standards and they are enforced, that's going to be expensive to pay for violation u.s., which i know some of your subsidiaries had to do, right? >> you're incorrect to say western coal production is up. it too is down. let me say one thing, ma'am. the pj and interconnection is a

group of 13 ohio electric utilities east of the mississippi. they just had their quarterly auction, power prices are up 8%, bid that incremental power up eight times, 800% because they in their press relief said there's going to be brown-outs and blackouts as barack obama eliminates the four cent kill lo watt electricity per hour made from coal and tries to substitute the 22% that gets $24 a kilowatt a dollar from the taxpayer. it shouldn't exist. ma'am, this is a national crisis -- goes well beyond the coal industry. >> you're clearly infuriated by it. i want to ask about the politics. when people look into who you support politically this year alone, i believe you've given

$150,000 to the gop. so i think there are people who could say, your position is more about politics than anything else. >> that is absolutely incorrect again. you're insufficieinuation was incorrect, i told you this was a human issue. these are my employees and i came from them deeply. barack obama and followers are destroying the entire -- of america. the whole country better wake up to what's going to happen to power costs. in east ohio, it doesn't make any difference whether you're a democrat or republican. everybody there wants jobs and he's destroying them. >> let me read a quote from you. you said god was shining on america when bush got elected. that's a quote. all i can say, god was shining on america when george w. bush got elected and there are many people who would look to the

reputation that the bush administration had, courts found and this is a quote, in court rulings, that the administration contradicted and disregarded language of the clean air act and courts overturned 15 rulings of the administration's own environmental protection agency. so i think there are people who would say it's not not about politics. that actually, clearly, if you run a coal company and you're trying to get a break on certain policies and that actually it does matter who's in office and you might be more willing and supportive of someone you think will give you a break. especially when it comes to violations and things that have cost your companies and subsidia subsidiaries, $7 million announced for one in mid july, righ >> ma'am, i'm an american first. >> me too. >> coal miner second. >> i'm an american and china is

building a new 500 mega watt coal fired plant every week and have for years as he shut down 175 plants. that's 83,000 mega watts, i'm not a politician, i'm an engineer. america had better wake up to what this man is doing. people on fixed incomes will not be able to pay their electric bills. every job on america that depends on low cost electricity will be exported to china. this is a national issue and this -- i know exactly what this man is doing and it has nothing to do with politics. he is bad for america. >> let's talk about natural gas for a moment. that's an area where we have seen tremendous growth. it is very cheap and there are analysts who are bipartisan, who would say a lot of falloff in coal is directly correlated to how cheap natural gas is and that it's cycleal, they come and go and ebbs and flows and that's where these problems are. >> you're absolutely correct, ma'am.

when natural gas gets below $3.50 per thousand cubic feet, can compete with coal and it is. part of the elimination of the coal jobs is the the more increased use of natural gas which is okay because it's good for america. we need the lowest cost electricity we can get. but it's the regulations of the obama administration that long term has determined that 175 plants will be closed. it has nothing to do with natural gas, ma'am. and they will stay closed. and this is what bothers me, the children, our children, grandchildren, even in the next few years i don't know how people on fixed incomes -- i grew up poor. i don't know how they will pay the electric bills about what i see happening here as he eliminates the low cost electricity from the power grid. and for no environmental benefit -- for no environmental benefit whatsoever, none. >> i think environmentalists

would disagree with you hartley on that, certainly if you look at the incidents of asthma et cetera, small particle coming across the different states and. i want to reiterate when i gave the western states coal production numbers those came from the energy administration those aren't numbers i pulled out of a hat. ohio coal production is dropping and projected to drop even more. i thank you for -- >> i operate in utah and that is not correct. all of the industry is being destroyed. >> we thank you for your time this morning, sir. thanks for being with us, we appreciate it. still ahead on "starting point," gay and lesbian couples take a stand. it's a kiss-in. the other day it was a

chick-fil-a -- >> from coal to kissing, that was a good transition. my god, do you think mr. murray sees things in very stark colors. >> i did a documentary on coal in west virginia and it's very interesting, the similar conversations, obviously regulations are a big sticking point for those in coal production but other things to work too, some even out west, the coal is closer to the surface, easier to access and that correlates -- >> bought a big railroad because he was so bullish on coal. >> the low sulphur and high sulphur -- >> they specialize in high sulphur coal. >> those are big issues, not as clear cut as regulations, although regulations play a role in it. as we pointed out to him, one of their subsidiaries had to play they are estimating $7 million

in fines or fixes because of violating some of the regulations so -- >> jobs create natural gas, he's worried and thousands have been created in natural gas. >> everybody is protective of their own industry. those aren't coal jobs so in his mind they don't count and not in his state. >> it's also very political. i don't think he knows the president's right name. >> i have someone firing a bunch of people and coming on and blame the president of the united states. it seems like he's taking advantage of an obviously terrible situation for his employees and turning it into a hand grenade in the campaign. >> yes, that's true. we can keep talking about this. you could talk about it for years, that is how complicated -- >> it's a serious and complicated issue. >> like all of issues we talk about here. >> unlike chick-fil-a. >> unlike our next issue which is going to be ryan beatty.

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record but no specifics. >> a general record. >> today gay rights supporters are going to take on chick-fil-a's stance with a kiss-in. encouraging supporters to share a kiss in protest once they arrive a kiss-in. they're going to post their videos or photos of it on social media. and that isn't the only campaign that's happening. marcy alt of atlanta started a petition on change.org inviting the chick-fil-a president to join her wife and two kids for dinner. so far he has not responded. >> this will be a weekly thing. >> a little sit-down with them. >> do you think there's going to be chick-fil-a fatigue at some point? >> yes. >> i think we've reached that point. >> it's passed through a line where now chick-fil-a is a polarizing american institution. before this week, anyone could go to chick-fil-a, we weren't making a political statement. now for a good long while it'll

be a political act. like watching fox news versus msnbc. that's what it has become. >> what i wish we could do was make the discussion not about chick-fil-a but any individual company about treating employees fairly or about having corporate policies. >> and the allegations of chick-fil-a aren't there's some discrimination against specific employees in their employ, right? >> no antidiscrimination protection. you can fire somebody because you don't like their private personal behavior. >> this is about freedom of speech here. and that's what's bringing out these crowds. i don't think it has anything to do with the freedom of speech. we're seeing so far it has done well. they are -- >> actually, i don't think it's about freedom of speech, because i think that, you know, i kind of agree with you. but i think anybody can say what they want and he can have his own beliefs, as well. >> right. >> what this issue should be about is companies treating everybody the same, everybody

fairly and companies judging employees based upon their ability to show up and do the work and not about their behavior in off hours. >> this all started because of the support of marriage equality, right? ultimately. >> it all started because the company gave money to these anti-gay groups and the groups promoting conversion therapy. >> dan kathy's most recent remarks kicked all of this off when he said they don't support gay marriage. and many people point to that as a first amendment issue. we have got to take a break. >> we're going to go to chick-fil-a after this? >> no, i want to go to the kiss-in. >> i think we know what the end point is. >> still ahead this morning on "starting point," do you know this young man? listen. ♪ leaving me breathless ♪ i can't help feeling we could've had it all ♪ >> that's not adele, but it's a kid doing adele really well.

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so this young man might be the next juin bieber, his name is ryan beatty, if you haven't heard of him yet, you might. he's 16 years old, he just released his e.p. music videos getting 30 million views on youtube. more than 240,000 subscribers to his youtube channel. this is one of his videos, "every little thing."

♪ when you're around, it's like you pick me up ♪ >> and he's handsome. which all of that adds up to. and he has good hair. i'm talking about the realities of the business. when did you start singing? >> my entire life. but i started taking it more seriously about a year ago and it's probably one of the best decisions i've ever made in my entire life. >> yeah, i'd say yes to that. >> i've had the best past year. >> when we look at you on youtube. let's run one of those. you are singing into a microphone and you've got your bunk bed behind you. when did you start doing this? and how did people start finding you at first? >> well, i put up a video last february of 2011, and i -- you know, i've always wanted to sing, but i never really had faith in myself that i could do it and i didn't know what would come of it, so one day decided to give it a try and put the video up and within a week it got 10,000 views and i just couldn't believe the number that i saw. you know, the video count got 10,000 views in a week, i never

thought it would happen. put up another video from there just to see if it would get the same but actually doubled in a week, so like 20,000 views in a week. d another one up and another one up. >> you're famous, basically. >> i don't consider myself famous. >> you're the most famous person on the show all week. by the way. >> are you talking to producers? obviously if you're getting 30 million hits for the things you're posting on youtube, i've got to imagine people are calling you up. >> i've been working with a lot of different producers. on my e.p. i worked with john fields. i love his work and i'm so grateful i got to work with him. and i worked with shelly peeke and she wrote a lot of christina aguilera stuff. as well as thx, he's also a great producer. >> i love when you thank your producers, that's very smart. >> i've got to talk about justin bieber. is he someone you look up to? do you want to be the next

justin bieber? >> i definitely think he's so tam e talented. i loved his last album. and he had this song in there i really like. he's definitely, you know -- i -- he's worked so hard and his movie was really cool and i loved seeing that movie because it showed how he just started from nothing and he became huge. >> youtube sensation. >> off his work so, you know, there's -- i think compare us because i started on youtube, i'm young and, you know, but we have different styles and different stories. and so i think that once people actually hear my music they'll forget those comparisons because we're on totally different paths. but i definitely respect him a ton and think he's incredibly talented. >> so when you're wildly famous, will you come back? or am i going to have to go through a dozen people to get you back on the set? >> this is your last interview. >> i'll definitely come back. no doubt. >> that's a promise. sure. sure. >> you guys can go chick-fil-a

kiss day. >> best of luck to you. >> thank you so much. >> nice to meet you. >> i discovered you if anybody asks. just teasing. the hall of famer cal ripken, jr. talks about the abduction of his mother. we're going to talk to him straight ahead, get you updated on a search for a suspect. plus, at sea world, they're trying to upgrade safety procedures two years after a killer whale killed a trainer. the author of a new book said safety is only part of the problem. you're watching "starting point," back in a moment. i'm gonna...use these. ♪ give me just a little more time ♪ [ female announcer ] unlike mops, swiffer can maneuver into tight spaces and its wet mopping cloths can clean better in half the time. mom? ♪ ahhhh! ahhhh! no it's mommy! [ female announcer ] swiffer. better clean in half the time. or your money back. ♪

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welcome back to "starting point," today is the day the jobs report is released. we're going to break down those numbers, tell you how they're impacting the markets and get instant reaction when they're released. also cal ripken, jr. is speaking out for the first time about his mother's kidnapping. at the same time, we get a look at the suspect on surveillance video. the baseball legend will join us straight ahead. and coming to a wheaties box near you, would be gabby douglas, she made history, joined a list of names with her gold medal performance. plus, "bourne again," the jason bourne franchise rebooted but without matt damon this time. will it still strike box office gold? we have a packed show ahead for you. director of the "bourne legacy"

movies will join us, cal ripken, jr., austan goolsbee. all our guests this friday, august 3rd, "starting point" begins right now. ♪ ♪ that's the golden time of day ♪ >> wow, frankie beverly, again viewer request, it is viewer request friday, send us a request and we'll try to get it to you. our team this morning ryan lizza for the new yorker, abby huntsman, richard socretes. >> thanks for having us. >> i've had a hard time reading this week. >> come on now. >> good thing it's friday. i can rest up this weekend. this morning, a legendary orioles shortstop cal ripken,

jr. is going to talk publicly about his mother's bizarre kidnapping and her return. this was the weirdest story. police in maryland say vi ripken was mysteriously abducted from her home. happened last week. they don't know who did it. the 74-year-old taken at gunpoint, then she was bound and driven around in her own car. she was returned roughly 24 hours later. police say they've received several tips since releasing the security footage. it shows the person, that guy right there with the hat on, entering a walmart. officials also released this composite police sketch of the suspect. they're offering a $2,000 reward for any information that would lead to an arrest. cal ripken plans to hold a press conference in baltimore. and i had a chance to talk with him a few minutes ago. >> cal, thanks for talking with us. appreciate it. let's talk about how you first heard that your mother had been kidnapped, how did you get the information? >> my sister called me roughly

about 9:00 at night and said there'd been a 911 call describing my mom's car and that a woman was tied up in the backseat and wanted to know if we knew where mom was. and of course at that point we didn't. and i think panic just went through the whole house trying to figure out what happened to mom. >> eventually she was found. her hands had been bound. she was found in the back of her own car. she's 74 years old. how is she doing? and how are you doing? >> yeah. i mean, i think that's one of the reasons i'm coming on to talk to you today is a lot of people are really concerned and asking questions about mom. and she's doing okay. it's been a traumatic experience, one i think none of us know how we would've handled. i'm just thankful she's home. but she's doing okay. she's a strong woman after all. she raised four kids with my dad away doing his baseball thing. so i think we're doing as well

as we can expect. >> they're trying to figure out the motive and track down a person they say is a suspect. do you have any ideas what the motive could be? looks as if the kidnapper never mentioned your name. doesn't seem to be a correlation there. >> yeah, we don't know. it's bizarre in that way. we don't know why. again, everybody asks me and they wonder that we're sitting in the house and kind of being quiet, but we're respecting the investigation and i guess the other reason, though, was to come on with you today is that the law enforcement needs help. they need someone to -- if they know anything about the case or if they see the guy's picture and they understand who that guy is, they want to encourage them to call in. but i guess we're just -- we hug our mom a little bit more, grab her a little closer and we're happy she's home. >> oh, my goodness, i can't imagine.

we've been showing while you've been talking a police sketch of the suspect and video that came from surveillance tape at a walmart. let's roll that again while we continue to have our conversation. i know there's a reward out, as well. what can you tell me about that? >> yeah. i don't know. i haven't gotten too much into the reward aspect for information around him. i think that's a police issue. you know, i guess we just focus on trying to help mom heal. and, you know, standing in front of you today using the national media as an opportunity to say law enforcement needs your help is really the message here. but i think we're just thankful -- in some ways it seems like a weird movie that you're watching and then you're actually watching yourself in the movie and at some point you're going to realize it's a movie but it's real life. >> exactly. it seems so strange. we were hearing about it and thank goodness eventually she was found okay. you're going to hold a press conference, i think, later this morning to give lots of information to other folks, as

well. and can you tell me about this surveillance videotape from walmart. what do we know about it? and why are they focusing on that person in the tape as a suspect? >> well, i think they're pretty sure this is the guy. and i'm no police detective or anything, but i understand that they have a couple locations that he's gone to. and they've tracked those locations and were able to use surveillance cameras to see the car, see him getting out of the car, see him going in, you know, to these different locations. and so they're sure this is the suspect. and with technology now where you're actually able to get images, there's also a sketch of this person, as well. but the police are very certain this is the picture. they just need help finding him. >> the sketch and surveillance videotape is pretty clear, i think, if anybody gets a look at it who knows and they'll be able to identify him relatively easily.

cal ripken, nice to have you on to talk to us. sorry it's under such awful circumstances, but we hope you're able to figure it out. >> yeah. i wish -- certainly i do too. i wish it was under other circumstances, but thank you so much for having me. >> nice to see you and tell your mom we wish her the best, as well. >> i will, soledad, thank you. >> you bet. >> let's get right to christine romans with an update on other stories making news this morning. >> good morning, soledad. this morning, at least 62 people have been killed in syria in what's being called a massacre. the assad regime pummelled the city, the u.n. is scheduled to vote later today to denounce the syrian government. the resolution coming one day after former u.n. secretary general resigned his position as special envoy to syria and say he's frustrated at finger pointing while syrians are being slaughtered. tropical storm eesto

moving through the caribbean and could head into the gulf of mexico. rob marciano joins us from the hurricane headquarters. hi, rob. hi, christine, getting reports in from st. lucia as this storm moves to the west of those islands, now into the eastern caribbean and the convection picking up, as well. cruising, westerly movement at 24 miles an hour, that will create some head winds incorrectly. and that'll limit some of its development. but nonetheless, it's going to have a lot of warm caribbean waters to go through over the next several days. so it will likely be gaining strength more readily through the weekend potentially becoming a hurricane south of jamaica and the official forecast track brings it towards the gulf of mexico as we get toward the beginning of next week. all eyes on ernesto. >> all eyes on mars, rob. mars curiosity, a huge nasa rover is set to arrive inside a crater. it's expected to give amazing views of the red planet. on "early start" this morning,

charles bolden said curiosity could be paving the way for people to pay a visit. >> we're going there because all of our previous indications from mars reconnaissance orbiter, other rovers and satellites say that's a good place to go if we want to determine if there are signs that the martian surface could sustain life in its past, today, or most particularly in its future when we plan to send humans there in the 2030s. >> it's the most complex red planet touchdown ever attempted. it's being called seven minutes of terror as the rover will be lowered on cables lowered by a rocket-powered sky crane. very cool stuff, soledad. >> i can't believe you're talking about something that really exists called a rocket-powered sky crane. >> paving the way for people some day to drop into a crater perhaps. >> yeah, that's awesome. >> that's very cool. >> amazing. >> christine, thank you. let's talk about america's newest golden girl.

i love this young lady, gabby douglas. >> how do you really feel about her? >> i really, really love her. you know why? when she finishes her routine -- >> what do you like best about her? >> when she finishes her routine and sticks her landing and bounces up and does that. not only did i do a great finish and people talking about being one of the most important parts at the end of the routine, you've got to nail it and then she does a little bounce like, see, i told ya. >> and her smile is so contagious. >> amazing. so she is 16 years old. she became the third straight american, the first african-american to win the women's all-around gymnastics gold medal. bringing us to amanda davies live in london for us. good morning. >> reporter: hi, good morning. it is the most sensational morning for us at olympic park. but you can bet your bottom dollar it's even more special for gabby douglas after that

yesterday. if you rearrange the letters of gabby douglas' surname it spells out usa gold. it was meant to happen. she put in that sensational performance on the vault and beam and nailed that final floor performance. the greenwich arena was like club gabby with that techno music beating out and now she's the a-list, all of team usa know her on first name terms and this is where life gets going for her. and i hope she's ready for a fantastic ride. >> let's talk about michael phelps. you know it's been a rough time when it's like, oh, and michael phelps won his 20th medal because everyone's talking about gabby, but huge for him, as well. and they're having the conferring about whether or not he was the greatest. >> best ever, what do you think? >> if he's not, he's very close to it for sure. right, amanda? >> reporter: yeah. it's really hard that greatest debate depends how you're going to measure it, doesn't it?

people had been writing him off, consigning him to history because he's had something of a difficult week here in the pool. but he wrote his own bit of history last night in the 200 meter becoming the first man to win the same event at three consecutive olympics. and you have to look at his career statistics and see where that puts him. if he was a country, in terms of his medals won, if michael phelps was a country, he'd be better than 83% of the 204 countries that the ioc have represented at this london games. and basically what that means is that if we was representing swimming only, he would be the seventh most successful country in the list. and that is just one man with 20 medals, admittedly 16 of them are gold. and he is, of course, going for another medal tonight in the 100 meters butterfly. he might make it further up that list by the time he leaves

london and hangs up his goggles for good. >> you know you've done when they start saying if you were a country. >> seriously. >> those comparisons mean it's going really well for you. all right, amanda, thank you. appreciate it. still ahead this morning on "starting point," a new book is slamming sea world for the trainers that have died for saying that some of the whale are actually suffering. the author of that new book is called "death at sea world" is going to be our guest in a few minutes. here is flo rida. thank you, thomas, we like this. you know what? i like -- >> not enough rap on this show. >> it is rap heavy. i like that. >> it's a friday. [ male announcer ] this is the at&t network. in here, every powerful collaboration is backed by an equally powerful and secure cloud. that cloud is in the network, so it can deliver all the power of the network itself. bringing people together to develop the best ideas -- and providing the apps and computing power

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you might remember. this is a trainer dawn brancheau. she was drowned when a giant orca pulled her into the pool and then thrashed around her. her injuries just devastating. then last week we showed footage from 2006. there was a killer whale named katsaka who dragged her trainer, ken peters, under water holding him for several minutes before he was able to scramble to the side of the pool. dangerous incidents has resulted in disciplinary action against sea world from osha. vowing to revamp the safety measures saying it's going to allow a select group of trainers reenter the waters only to give medical attention. a new book out called "death of sea world." clms safety, really, is only part of the problem. it was written by david kirby and he's with us this morning. how frequent are these kinds of

accidents or -- accident may not be the right word because i think some of these attacks seem very intentional when you read the details about these killer whales going after their trainers. >> some of them seem very intentional. there's been well over 100 aggressive incidents reported at sea world. that's only the tip of the iceberg. several of those resulted in serious injuries to the trainers, and of course, four people have died. >> and then the whales themselves have died, two dozen. >> yes, more than that. some of them have died in altercations with each other. they get aggressive with each other as well as with humans, which never ever happens in the wild, certainly not to this extent. >> is your theory that these animals should not be in captivity at all? >> i think the time has come for this practice to be phased out. at one point it did benefit society, science, we learned a lot about these animals in the early years, the '60s, '70s, '80s. we now know they're so attached to their families, they are

particularly unsuited to captivity compared to say other animals. yes, i think the time has come to phase it out. >> of course the argument is, listen, you learn a lot about them in captivity. if you have a generation of kids watching shamu, you end up inspiring them. >> they appreciate the sea. >> that would be a counterargument. >> first of all, you can go to the sea to see wildlife. i just came back from washington state where you can pull your car over on the highway and go to the cliff and watch the whales playing in the kelp right below. and children were delighting in that. some places they have naturalists that can explain to you what's going on. and also the education provided at sea world is not really world class. people leave talking about the shamu whales, there is no such thing. you don't learn that much about killer whales in the wild. and finally, children love dinosaurs, they're crazy about dinosaurs, they've never seen one and yet they read about them, they learn about them. so you don't necessarily have to

see the animal in order to be inspired by it. it certainly does help, though. >> what is the benefit of having the trainers in the pool with them? are we going to miss anything if they're no longer in the pool? it seems the last year or two -- >> yeah, sea world has made record profits without trainers in the water. the show is more exciting to watch, let's face it, when they are in the water, launching from the backs of these animals. it is truly spectacular. right now they're just on the edge sort of clapping their hands and not doing much. so sea world, i think, thinks it's part of the show to have the trainers to show that bond. they also claim that you can provide superior veterinarian care if you get in the water with the animals. but some animals they've never gotten in the water with. are those animals being consigned second class care if you have to be in the water to -- >> sea world said this. sea world's killer whale program is a model for facilities around the world. and the additions we made in the last two years in the areas of personal safety, facility

design, and communication have enhanced this program further still. will these osha requirements and changes make a difference? >> well, this all comes to a head on monday, i belie. sea world has to certify to osha that they have put into place all the abatements that osha mandated. we get the trainers out and keep them out or figure out a way to provide equal or better protection. seaword spent up to $100 million to put in fast-rising bottoms in a pool where two people actually died. the idea if you put the trainer in and something goes wrong, you can lift them both out of the water and somehow extract the trainer, that takes over 60 seconds and as you can see in these videos, these attacks, a lot of -- these animals can do a lot of damage in 60 seconds. >> the book is called "death at sea world." thank you for coming in to talk to us about it. we appreciate it. let us know what you think about

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but the jobs report could change all that. waste and employee theft at amtrak taking a toll on taxpayers. according to government auditors, amtrak is losing more than 80 million a year on its food and beverage service alone. here's why. amtrak charges passengers $2 for a soft drink, but costs the railroad about $3.40 to serve each beverage when you add in labor costs, throw in nearly $7 million a year and employee theft and amtrak squandered $834 million supporting government auditors. >> that seems like it's solvable, raise the prices on the soft drinks and burgers. >> they won't like it. >> they're not forced to buy it. anyway, that's my editorializing this morning. this morning, "the bourne legacy" is set to open next week, but can the franchise continue without matt damon. plus as christine was telling us, the jobs report for july about to be released.

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let's begin with some breaking news, the labor department just releasing the big jobs report for july, christine has an update for us. hey, christine. >> hi there, better net job creation than we thought. 163,000 jobs created in the month. this is the estimate, soledad, more like what it's going to turn out to be. couple of revisions, june was

worse, but may was better. so the summer swoon looks like july had a little bit better performance in terms of overall job creation. but when you look at the unemployment rate, that ticked up to 8.3%. sometimes you see that move one way or the other based on how many people are entering or leaving the workforce. we'll dig into that to find out why the jobless rate did increase, it's 8.3%, but the number of overall jobs created. wow, that looks messy. sorry. a little bit better than expected. this becomes important because we have an election coming up here. we're also trying to see how healthy the economy and the labor market has been, soledad, coming off this horrendous 2008/2009 job drought. now you have things a little bit better here than we thought, not, you know, there really was a lot of concern about this, starting to look a little bit like last summer that was a little bit weak. i want to dig into the numbers for you. manufacturing increased 25,000, that was a little bit of a surprise. looks like there weren't as many temporary layoffs in the auto industry. that's something interesting for detroit and the auto sector.

food service jobs were increased. low-wage jobs, a trend we've seen, soledad, low-wage jobs increasing. you want to see high-wage jobs increasing overall for a good job recovery. and the number of people who are long-term unemployed, a little bit of an improvement there. it's not great. but the number of long-term unemployed 5.2 million was a little bit better than what we thought. and for some reason, i'll dig into this for you, the hispanic unemployment rate fell sharply to 10.3%, still much bigger than the overall unemployment rate, but hispanic unemployment fell from 11% to 10.3%, the other races and sexes were basically the same, soledad. >> what is the african-american rate? >> about 1.65%. it wasn't a big change in there. when you look at underemployment, it's depression levels, so that's still a structural problem that continues. >> all right. obviously there are political implications, christine. >> oh, yeah. >> as you talk about. so we're going to continue our conversation with the university

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welcome back, everybody. you're watching "starting point." we're following breaking news for you. the labor department released the big jobs report for july. the u.s. economy added 163,000 jobs in july. that's much more than was expected. i think the number they were looking at was 95,000. unemployment rate, though, rose from 8.2% up to 8.3%. just a few moments, we'll be talking to university of chicago economist austan goolsbee. he'll be our guest to break down some of those numbers for us. now, let's talk about action. the action-packed "bourne" film franchise is back. this time jason bourne's not in it. it's called the "bourne legacy," and a new hero played by actor jeremy renner playing aaron

cross, an agent of operation outcome finding himself in a life or death outcome, must save a beautiful woman played by rachel weiss. here's a look. >> get down! you okay? >> yeah. >> "bourne legacy" opens in theaters next week. tony gilroy wrote and worked on the original movies. is it going to be a challenge to move off a trilogy that starred matt damon and have a "bourne legacy" with no bourne? >> very risky. it was a big undertaking to do that. but what we -- what we've decided to do is to say that what you saw before was only a small piece of something much larger. >> because the government is doing this. there's more than one. >> and we're saying edward

norton is the master mind and he's been watching the cia fail to bring in jason bourne and the last film it went very public. there was a shootout in new york city and he escaped and that's -- these are all very public events and that threatens his empire and jeremy renner is part of the collateral damage. >> and so he's got to go. >> he must go. and rachel plays a research scientist who works on the program and they need to stay alive together. >> tell me a little bit about what was the theory behind the whole bourne character in the, you know, the idea was that you have all of these agents, basically, who are super human beings in some ways. >> well, what we're seeing. there's -- i mean, there's actually very little suspense of disbelief in this. there's nothing that's really science fiction that's in this movie. there isn't anything that's not coming at us very soon. it doesn't take long to look around and talk to people and realize there's a lot of

programs that are very aggressively being pursued that are quite similar to what we're doing. >> to make soldiers better than your regular human being. >> oh, there's been a very -- there's been a very strong motivation for that since world war ii, and we'ret the moment now where the science is actually meeting the moment and in a very real way. >> what's the model here? you decided not to do the sort of james bond model where you replace damon with a new person and continue with his story line. is this more like a spinoff of a tv show? >> it is episodic story telling on a grand scale. that's what's happening in these movies now. our business is different in the thing that we've always been selling in these films is sort of authenticity and there's integrity to it, no cynicism. you can't do anything cheesy. we never wink at the camera. we're not sort of in the villain business in that sort of way either. >> i love these movies because even though there's a lot of action in them, they're very sophisticated. the story lines are very

nuanced, they're very entertaining, but they're really terrific stories. >> thank you. that's -- that sort of integrity and behavior and action there. so we couldn't -- you couldn't replace matt damon. >> aiming for women or mostly men? because i actually watched all the films and i loved them. and i didn't know i was meant to be the audience. >> i don't know. we're just aiming for two hours of just -- >> just aiming to sell a few movie tickets. >> no, just pure adventure. >> well, if you're increasing rachel's role -- >> well, we've never had a woman walk her own story. rachel plays a very -- it's a three-hander in a way. it's edward norton, rachel and jeremy colliding. >> it's a perfect date movie. you have the romance and love story. >> there you go. >> tony gilroy. thank you for joining us. the series is so great. and you're right, you can do

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welcome, everybody. we're following breaking news this morning. the new july jobs report is out. the unemployment rate is at 8.3%, up from 8.2%. the economy added 163,000 jobs, bit of a mixed outcome for the obama administration. let's get right to austan goolsbee, the former chief economist for president obama. currently serves as a professor at the university of chicago booth school of business. nice to see you. thanks for being with us. a higher number than what was expected. some people were predicting something like 95,000 for that number. yet at the same time we know that the unemployment rate has ticked up a little bit. can you explain that? >> well, there are two different surveys. one is a survey of businesses. that's where the payroll comes from, the other is a survey of people. that's where the unemployment rate comes from. the unemployment rate survey is a lot more variable. and so you tend to want to average over several months. it's not surprising that you can have an individual month where

you've got quite solid encouraging report on the jobs front showing almost double what was expected, but see little ticks in the unemployment rate because people come in to and out of the labor force. >> i also understand if you round up the number, the numbers are quite close, but one rounds down to 8.2% and one rounds up to 8.3%. you call it quite solid and encouraging, that's how you would describe that number? 160,000? >> yeah, i'd say -- it's not -- you wouldn't break out the party hats, but certainly coming on several months where the numbers were below expectations and fairly weak because the economy wasn't growing fast enough with the events in europe and some of those things, this is a pretty solid number. i mean, it came in well above expectations. so you -- whether good or bad, you never want to make too much of any one month's number, it's plus or minus 100,000. but that's a solid foundation.

if we got that again next month, i think people would be feeling a lot more relief. >> so what is not working to spur job growth faster? what do you think has to be done or should be done? >> well, i mean -- basically there's not much magic in the jobs number. it's tied to how fast the economy's growing. so some of the things that are out of our control that have been having a pretty significant negative impact are the borderline crisis events in europe, foremost. two, the slowdown in china and asia. so the world economy as a whole is a pretty precarious spot. it's been a bit of a bumpy ride for most of the year. and that does kick back on us. i think if washington could sort out some answer or even perceive direction of what's going to happen with the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, i think that would help because you're likely to see people start freaking out a little bit in the markets over that. and i think if we could press

ahead on trying to shift the economy away from the sort of bubble-driven stuff that was driving the growth in the 2000s toward a more sustainable kind of growth like manufacturing, investment, export oriented, that's what's got to happen. that takes a long time. that's why this is -- that's why this hasn't been v-shaped. that's what we've got to do. >> and that's a lot of ifs and big ifs. nice to have you, sir, thanks for talking with us. "end point" up next, but first, meet this week's "cnn hero." >> in afghanistan, most of the girls have no voice. they are used as property of a family. the picture is very grim. i'm the founder of a girls' school in afghanistan.

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well, look at those numbers. poor conditions between 98% and 83%. very poor. let's talk about our end point this morning. who wants to start? >> i'll start quickly two points on the jobs numbers. on the policy, this is not great. i think the best you can say is that we're not heading toward a recession. but we're muddling along. politically, it may be enough if this is the trend through the end of the election, this may be enough for president obama to get reelected as long as he can -- as long as he has positive growth. it's very hard to defeat an incumbent. >> let me say about that. it's certainly good news. these are the best numbers we've had in five months. so, you know -- >> good news. >> i want to tell you, it sure beats the alternative. you can't say that the numbers are going in the right