can we do to save the world? it's interesting when rap sometimes gets a bad name, you have the people who come out of it in hip-hop and want to help save the world with their hearts and what money they were fortunate to get. this is a pretty good transition, huh? >> it is. and certainly you are the fascinating man to partner with. tonight, the selling of a presidency 2012. dirty tricks, deceptive ads, and it's not even labor day. >> who shares your values? >> when mitt romney and bain closed the plant, i lost my health care. >> former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and tom romney adviser john sununu. also, guess who else is running for president? >> i do think that i'm a leader and, you know, i think i've proven that. >> yes, it's roseanne and the comic isn't joking. >> just everything's for sale,

all of our government. >> it's no laughing matter but will anyone take her seriously? plus, how can anyone walk away from this? two survivors tell their incredible life and death story. >> within three or four seconds, you're on the ground. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. president obama and governor romney proving to all of us tonight unfortunately how low they will go. new attack ads from both sides, ads that twist the truth that are, frankly, shocking and unacceptable. including the latest that holds bain capital or mitt romney responsible for causing a woman's death. a new romney ad blames obama for a war on religion.

>> when religious freedom is threatened. >> we say this, for those of you who say these super pacs are to blame and not the candidates, i say to president obama and governor romney, step up and disavow any connection or live with the fact both of you are part of the problem and not the solution. with me now is former pennsylvania governor and former dnc chairman ed rendell. and romney adviser john sununu. the surprising cnn presidential poll shows obama with a seven-point advantage. that same survey says 63% want romney to release his personal tax returns. it's a great description i think. two crucial areas. one, this ridiculous way. secondly, on the gun issue, and we'll come to that in a moment. just the fact they won't say

anything. let me start first of all with this ad that came out yesterday. the one that basically said mitt romney killed this woman. to me, it was crossing a line. it was just one of the ugliest smears i've seen. this is from a man, president obama, who said he didn't believe in super pacs. he wasn't going to do that. now he is and doing it in a very ugly manner. >> it was clearly over the top. just like the vampire ad at the beginning. where someone called governor romney a vampire. he's not a vampire and he's not a murderer. the problem with all this stuff and the other side is just as bad and the welfare ad is just as despicable. the problem with all this, it cuts away at the american

people's faith in politics in general. they say of course not, government can't do anything right. so it eats away at the core relationship between the government and the governing. i absolutely believe it's got to stop. i can't wait for the conventions to get here. because the convention speeches are real and the debates are real. and then we finally will hear some real stuff. not this blame game or negative stuff. >> let me bring in john sununu. what is your reaction to this? is it basically a stain on all their houses? >> look, there's a reason. if ed rendell and i were running against each other, we'd be arguing politics and policy. we have slight differences. he was a governor.

i was a governor. the problem is -- been caused by what was well described by ben smith in an article in politico just about a year ago today where he interviewed the obama campaign and the obama white house and they said that their strategy was to do things that would destroy mitt romney and, in essence, be a character assassination. once they started down that path, it's like nuclear armament. everybody escalates a little bit. this should be about issues. >> i mean, i think both are equal at fault here. i watched the whole romney campaign when he was becoming the republican nominee. i was in some of these places. these small towns and smaller cities when he was rampaging against all his rivals. it was a bombardment. if you were watching local television, every three minutes, boom, boom, boom. i don't think mitt romney can

claim the high moral ground here either. >> i don't agree with you. look, i've been involved in politics a long time. when mitt romney was up here in new hampshire, they were talking about the jobs issue. they were talking about the issue of taking positions on immigration. now, they were talking about taking positions on spending. they were talkinabout taking positions on taxes. they may have fought fiercely on that, but they were talking about policy and issues. >> why is barack obama on bain for example so obsessively going after mitt romney? which shows the perceived gap between the regular man and woman on the street and mitt romney is getting better. they believe he is pro the rich. that is why obama is going so hard after him, isn't it? >> why aren't you talking about the rasmussen poll? this election's going to come down to what people perceive the

performance of of this president is. the governor's book provides a great, great reference. obama hasn't passed a budget in four years. he's a wuss. has rejected his own simpson/bowles on his own budget package. >> you aren't supposed to be talking about -- you are the king wusser expose at the moment. let's talk about what i said. the cnn poll which shows more and more americans associate mitt romney with the rich. wall street. that kind of thing. this is why barack obama is pounding him about bain capital. >> politicians do negative ads because unfortunately they work. the governor has a chance to redefine himself.

he's got to do a very good job of doing that. of saying to the american people that i care about you, here are my values, here's what i fought for all my life. a lot of this stuff is noise, early noise. i want to say one thing about the president -- >> ed's right on that. >> on simpson/bowles, he remembered the so-called big deal with john boehner was for $5 trillion of debt reduction which essentially was simpson/bowles on steroids and john boehner couldn't sell it to the republicans in the house so let's be clear about that. >> that's not boehner's version. boehner's version is that the president tried to change what they had basically agreed on. >> john, everyone knows he couldn't sell it to his own caucus. >> that's the strategy for him -- >> let me move quickly to the second issue which is this issue of gun control. we've had two of the worst gun incidents in america of this century. yet neither romney, nor barack

obama, is prepared to say anything about this at all. there's been this wall of conspiratorial silence. august 7 to the 8 the poll was taken. it says 38% of american, the majority, believe there should be major restrictions now -- >> you said 38%? >> 38%, major restrictions. 37%, minor restrictions. only 13% think no restrictions. make all guns illegal, 10%. this is a rising tide. despite that you hear from the pro-gun lobby that people want something to be done. why is nobody saying anything in any sort of leadership way? >> because politicians underrate the intelligence and the reasonableness of the american people. piers, i ran in the state that has it is second highest member of nra members. i won three times by 10%, 12% and 21%. the nra doesn't speak for gun owners. they don't want assault weapons in the hands of anybody other than police and the military.

they don't want these clips that have 33 or 100 bullets to a clip. so is it moral cowardice -- >> i'll give the president -- >> john, john -- >> go ahead, finish up. >> the president in the book i take the president to task post-tucson. but he did say in new orleans he was in favor of a ban on assault rifles. he did say that. but it is governor romney signed the exact same bill in massachusetts. it would be easy for him to say he's for it. this is something where the nation would love it if the two of them got together and said the insanity must end. >> this is a classic example where i believe old school washington, you know, maybe the generation you guys grew up in

in washington, would have gotten together, beaten each other's heads around the room and worked out some form of consensus which meant the fears of the american public, that these things are happening more and more, would at least be allayed by the thought that someone in power was taking it seriously enough and trying to bring in some form of check and control on the kind of people we've seen getting access to these extremely high-powered weapons and committing atrocities. >> look, the reason the president and mitt romney are not talking about this right now is they both understand that the issue the american public wants to hear about is is the economy. and with all due respect to your personal interests in this issue, piers, it is not going to be a major issue in the campaign. what is going to be an issue is how do we fix unemployment. how do we get jobs. and how do we get out of of this morass of nonrecovery we're in for the last four years. >> i understand this. totally agree with you. the number one most important issue.

what i don't agree with is wall of silence from both the president and the man who would be president. neither of whom want to upset the gun lobby. when, you know, when sikhs can't go to their temple. when americans can't go to a movie theater. when congress women cannot walk out into the street without being shot, something has to be done. doing nothing is not an option. >> interestingly, i slightly -- >> passing a law is not going to change that. that's your perception. i don't agree with it. >> john -- >> why have rules about anything? >> if we outlaw those magazines the fella holmes in the first minute when he killed most of the people, he would have had to reload six times. he couldn't have killed half of the people he killed. >> he bought a magazine drum for his high powered assault weapon which he also bought perfectly legal. fired 100 bullets in a minute. >> the election is primarily about the economy. but people look at governors, mayors and presidents. they look for leadership qualities. a leadership quality is having

the courage to stand up and say, guys, i don't care what the political ramifications are to me. this is wrong and we've got to stop it. i think if either one of the candidates have done it, i think president obama did it early on. if any one of them did it, the american people would say, i'm not sure i agree with them but that's a lot of guts. >> i completely agree. otherwise, we become a nation of wusses. governors last word to you, governor sununu. >> if ed rendell or bill clinton or mitt romney or mitch daniels or haley barbour had been president the last four years, you would not have the problem we have now. they are governors. they know how to cut budgets. what this country needs is sobody with that kind of experience instead of avoiding issues going in and putting the right policies in place. president obama's failed because he really is a wuss. >> let me just ask you both one final question. i just want one name out of both of you. who would you choose if you were mitt romney as your vp?

let me start with you, governor sununu. >> ed rendell. >> governor rendell? >> i think i'd choose condoleezza rice. i think he's got some weaknesses in foreign affairs which he's demonstrated. she's a woman, african-american, it would be out of the box a she would energize a lot of voters. >> i completely agree. there was a little bubble about her a couple weeks ago. it went away. she ticks all the boxes if you're not romney. ease come back. very entertaining. >> thanks. buy the book, buy the book. >> i bought it. i read it last night. >> coming up, the controversial roseanne barr, now, wait for it, presidential nominee. [ annie ] this is the story of a girl named annie who dreamed she could fly. like others who braved the sky before her, it took a mighty machine, and plain old ingenuity to go where no fifth grader had gone before. ♪

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laugh your government to scorn in this election. that's my message. do so byelecting me and cindy sheehan. we're tougher. we're tougher. >> roseanne barr. one of america's best-known tv moms. she's also the peace and freedom party's presidential nominee. that's no joke. roseanne barr. welcome to the show. your first appearance. >> yeah, thanks for having me, it's nice to be here. >> this is a serious thing. i want to read you a quote you

said about your political aspirations. you said, i'm not a liar, i'm not a thief, i'm not a whore, i'm not a politician. i think that uniquely qualifies me to be president of the united states. >> i think those are my strengths. >> why are you doing this? some people will think it's a comic ruse. i know that's not the case. you're passionate about this. why have you decided to get engaged properly? >> well, just because i felt that, you know, i was asked to carry the water and carry a message during this election, and to make socialist solutions part of the narrative of this election, because they're being left out, and they work. >> i've been talking earlier in the show with more seamier members of the washington community. there's a general sense of despair i think collectively about the malaise now in washington.

where any kind of cooperation, any kind of coming together to get things done, any kind of doing a deal to benefit america, it's all gone out the window. it's not all about points scoring. it's about childish, petty commercials. which are based on a pack of lies. and so on, so on. >> i think you're right. >> general sense of moral cowardice, many would argue. also a fundamental lack of leadership. why has it come to this? that's just what happens when you make everything for sale. that's exactly what happens. since we got citizens united, just everything's for sale. all of our government. all the way up to the executive branch, you know, to the highest bidder. and of course that's the very worst thing that can happen in a democracy. you know, they both -- this party, this two-headed beast, which we say is, you know, the demopublicans. i also call them the republicant's.

they blame each either for the fact neither one of them has any real solutions. both parties work for the same people, which are the bankers that brought us to ruin and misery. as they did in the great depression. and, again, because this whole system is needing a reboot. and that's what i'm bringing. commonsense solutions. just common sense to the dialogue. because we don't -- we could make -- you know, we could solve our problems. i do think i'm a leader. you know, i think i've proven that. also, i have moral fortitude to stand up and say no. it's not -- this system does not exist for the benefit of international bankers. this is america. and we're the americans. we have the right to make this discussion bigger and to include

the solutions that benefit the majority of people. not a small minority at the expense of everybody else. >> most americans right now in the polls would say that the economy's their number one concern. the reason for that is the jobless figures are still extremely high. many people loing their jobs, losing their homes, so on. if you were president, what would you do about that particular issue? how would you get americans back to work? >> well, i would ask the richest among us, the richest corporate citizens to, you know, include the american people in their jo. instead of sending all our jobs to china and other countries. where people are doing fine. i have a whole thing on my website, roseanneworld.com. where i talk about agriculture. and going back to the things that built a middle class in the country. we were once the bread basket of the world for instance. and we still have the capability to do that again, to grow the world's food.

all of the solutions which have already been proven in this country and built a large and middle class and a working class too can be reemployed i think. we just need to tip it. and step away from the direction we're headed. which does not work. and, like i said, benefits a very small percentage of people. and disfranchises the rest. 99%. to disfranchise 99% of voters is really stupid. and these guys that are so smart or think they're smart, you know, have caused all this problem and now, you know, they're talking about, you know, they're bringing the ideas for solutions which are exactly like the problems they caused. so, yeah, i do think that government should not be run as a business. government is the thing that protects the people from fat cats, monopolists and crazy international bankers that just write off human life.

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i was hoping we'd have a little extra money to play around with. >> well, you want extra money? because, you know, i have my own system for extra money. >> all right. >> okay. first, we send in the phone bill and we forget to sign the check. >> there you go. >> then i send the water bill to the electric company and the electric bill to the water company. >> now you're cooking. >> you know that charge card bill? it never even showed up. >> she's gone from sitcom star to peace and freedom candidate for president of the united states. i'm back with roseanne barr. s, roseanne? >> you know, piers, i just wanted to say a large part of my solution is to, as fdr did, write down the principal on the debt.

thank you. >> let's turn to your roast, which happened last week. how was it for you? >> yeah. well, it was the comedy central roast. it was just fantastic. i loved it. i love that they gave me the opportunity to kind of bring it up a few notches. and it was like all the press is saying, you know, it's one of the friendliest, nicest roasts. we lifted the level of the joke. i'm glad i did it. i loved every minute of it. i took it hard in the shorts and gave it hard too. >> let's watch a little clip from your roast, coming up on comedy central. >> okay. >> tom arnold, i'd really like to thank tom for showing up tonight. it was very brave. and he was very funny. but jesus christ, how many [ bleep ] do i have to get for that guy?

i'm glad you have a new wife, tom. i hope she isn't with you just for your money, i mean my money. >> tom arnold was getting roasted there, not you. >> oh, yeah, well, you know, i get the last word on the roast, the roastee gets to have the final retort. and so i took everybody -- you know, i gave as good as i got and, you know, just loved it. there was real cutting-edge comedy going on that night. i missed doing stand-up and it was fantastic to do it again. >> there are two questions i like to ask all my special guests. i'm going to throw them at you. >> thank you. >> one of them is how many times have you been properly in love in your life? >> properly in love? >> yes. >> you know, there were many timeses in my life where i was in love. i'll just have to say that many times. i happen to be in love right now. i guess i'm -- i'm not like my

gay sister and my -- i mean, my gay sister and my gay brother that have both been with the same partner for 25 and 26 years respectively. i, as a straight person, have not been able to hold any relationship together as well as they. >> are you getting easier with time do you think? roseanne, you calming down a little bit? >> i'm getting more, you know, the issue of mental health is very near and dear to me. and as i go on and, you know, as i pull it in and synthesize and do all the things. plus just getting old you get wiser. yeah, i think, you know, i have a happier life. and i'm more centered. and i'm in the best place that i've ever been in. and a lot of that is because i have done -- i have done the work. >> and if i was to pin you down and say right, apart from any relationship or children in your life, if you could relive one moment again of your entire life career, whatever, what moment would you choose? >> well, there's more than one, piers.

>> you can only have one. >> you're allowed one. >> there's a period of about three years that i wish i could do over. when you're right at the pinnacle of this strange fame that you don't know how to handle and you just kind of implode and explode and everything else. i wish i had done it better. of course, the "star spangled banner" is a huge regret that pretty much was hard to come back from. a huge -- like, you know, something probably i regret that. as for my career mistakes. and in my personal life, there's about 3,000 things i regret and wish i'd done better. >> i think you misunderstood the question. i actually was asking you about the opposite. i was really after what's been the greatest moment of your life? the moment you'd relive for the right reasons. >> there have been a lot of them

too. there have been a lot of them. >> pin you down, come on. >> the number one thing -- >> if you had an hour to live and i said you can relive one thing. >> for me, again, on the issue of mental health, is when i went to stanford university and was given a clean bill of mental health which was 15 years ago. that was the pinnacle of my life actually. my emotional life. >> that's a great answer. >> but, you know -- okay. >> i will take that. very happy. >> there are others too. of course the birth of my children, my grandchildren. things like that. you know, like normal people. but to -- but to have overcome a severe mental illness. took a lot of work. and i'm proud of myself for doing it. >> so you should be. and you look in tremendous shape if you don't mind me saying, roseanne. >> thanks, piers. >> an olympian comedian, if ever i saw one. been a pleasure.

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now to a story that we brought you last night, four men survived a plane crash and we showed you these images. it's a miracle that no one was killed. the survivors are on the phone, tol gropp and alec arhets. tol, your father was the pilot and he was pretty badly injured. take me back to the trip itself. you guys fly often together? >> i've flown with my dad a number of times, yes. but the guys, my friends alec and nathan, this was their first time. >> so the first time you take off, all seems to be okay. when did your father realize there may be a problem? because it seemed from the video that quite quickly there was a problem. >> preflight i think he knew that the air density was a little thin.

it was a warmer day. and the runway was fairly long. i think we could all attest that it seemed like a little longer to take off. you can see that in the video. but it was such a long runway and, you know, eventually he did get above the trees, a good 70 to 100 feet and, you know, it seemed like when we were up there that everything was okay. i think my dad probably had a little different perspective because he wasn't climbs as quick as he knew he should be. >> despite that, you all seemed reasonably calm. but then clearly you hit the panic buttons as the plane suddenly dropped. when did you realize this was going to crash? this is everyone's nightmare to be in a plane that is about to crash. what goes through your mind? >> it was crazy. it was so fast. from the backseat where alec and i were sitting, you can't see out the front very well but from the side you could see that we were slowly descending. i've been with my dad so many times that i still felt like he was going to be able to ll us out of it and there was really no question until probably about

two seconds before we hit the trees that, you know, i felt like he would pull us out, that it would be okay and, so, we had about two seconds to say, wow, we're really going to hit those trees and the trees were pelting the side of the wings and the airplane and within three or four seconds you're on the ground hanging upside down by your seat belt. >> extraordinary. alec, this is your first flight with father and son. presumably one of your last the way that one went. but who was actually videoing this? because the most extraordinary thing is someone kept the camera going. >> well, it was myself and nathan. we were moving them from the front to the side. we had videotaped the trip up and part of our trip while we were hiking around. at takeoff and landing like it was before and so, yeah, we both myself and nathan videotaped.

>> did you think as you were videotaping you might be videoing your own deaths here? >> you know, it never crossed my mind until we started going down and then at that point there you think -- you think to yourself, this might be the last -- this might be the last evidence or the last time we get -- that our family gets to see us. that goes through your mind at that point. >> when you landed, we saw your father covered in blood. how is he now? >> he's actually doing really well. he had his jaw clamped shut for three weeks through wires and he broke his jaw in three places. he had some cheek breaks and about 13 plates placed into correct those breaks and so far the last two weeks he's been unwired shut and so he's been able to kind of exercise his jaw and then in about a week they are going to test going back to solid foods. so he's been on a liquid diet here.

>> did you realize -- >> sorry. i was going to say, did you realize that the whole thing was being caught on camera? >> no, not initially. i knew that the cameras were rolling when we left. i didn't realize that they continued to roll, you know, until probably a good five minutes, six minutes after we had landed when alec found the cameras still rolling and they come back into view, that's when you can see my dad and nathan at various points and alec and he kept -- the both of them kept those cameras going for a good portion after we landed. >> alec, i'm seeing a whole new career for you in hollywood. you're a man of rare steel when it comes to the nerve department. >> well, you know, that's what you're trained to do. you don't really think about yourself at that time. you think about the people around you and you think about what you can do to take care of them and that was my focus and i

know that that was the other men's focus as well as i don't think any one of us sat there thinking about our own selves. it was, what can we do for each other, what's wrong with each other. so by doing that, busy trying to get what we needed to gather together, like water and things like that. keep yourself busy with things like that. you know, you just don't have time to panic and i'm sure there was some amount of shock and stress involved as well. >> it was quite an extraordinary story. i've never seen anything quite like that video. i salute you guys coming through relatively unscathed and i'm really pleased that you're alive and well and able to talk to me tonight. >> thank you. >> quite extraordinary. i talk to one of the woman's best basketball players, trying to win a gold for the u.s. in london. [ annie ] this is the story of a girl named annie

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>> maya, there's a fantastic fact about you, which is that espn did a sport science video in which they established that you have a hand speed equivalent, if not faster, than a striking rattlesnake. >> yes. that -- it's been my secret my whole life but they finally discovered that my hands are pretty quick. >> faster than a striking rattlesnake. >> i had no idea. but somehow they measured it. >> you seem to have relatively normal hands to me. >> they seem subtle but then at the right moment -- >> you've always been quick at the draw? >> it's been a skill i've developed over the years. >> quite intimidating for a man. >> intimidating for anyone, i hope. >> boyfriends been able to deal with the rattlesnake hands? >> yeah, i think people once they get to mow me and realize i'm not that dangerous off the court. >> how do you feel right now being the best female basketball

player in the world? >> well, i think i'm really blessed and privileged right now to be on some great teams. i've told everyone, my history of winning and success has always been partnered with great teams. >> you say that but you were described as the winningest -- i've never heard that word before -- the winningest player in college basketball. in other words, you were the most winning player that they've ever seen. >> yeah. it's -- >> that's amazing. >> it's great timing. i came into a great program, the best coach in my opinion, played with other fellow americans. just the timing of coming in, having two undefeated seasons, you know, having the best -- or creating another record with our streak of 90 games in a row, it's just focus and day after day working hard, knowing people

are going to come after us. >> you're the big target, aren't you? i mean, you and the teams that you play and wherever you play always there's an assumption that you're going to win. that brings with it a special kind of pressure, doesn't it? >> it absolutely does. i think it's -- the coach would say a lot, you know, being on top, how do you handle people coming at you every game knowing that they are giving you their a game and doesn't that wear on you? but we love it. when i was at uconn and now on the usa team, we love the target on our back because every team we're giving our best and we're beating the best. >> how do you deal with losing? >> losing is a necessary part of sports. i try not to let it happen too often but when it does happen, i feel it, i feel it just as much as any competitor would. it hurts. you don't want to experience it a lot but i learn from it. i take what i need from that

game or that time period, make the adjustments, whether it's in the gym, in the film room, and then hopefully another streak will start, which is what happened my freshman year of college. >> you are the first woman that nike chose to represent the michael jordan brand. that's an amazing accolade. what does michael jordan mean to you? >> well, there's not many people in the basketball world or the sports world. i mean, in the world who don't know what michael jordan did and who he is. he's just somebody who represents winning, somebody who represents competitiveness, leadership, just his work ethic, somebody who really honored and respected the game. and, you know, my generation, we need people like that. we need people to look up to, to model ourselves after so we can make sure that the game of basketball stays at the level that it is and even more.

so i'm just trying to come in and continue that competitiveness and help people follow the fall in love with the game as much as he made us love it. >> what is your ambition after the olympics? >> well, of course, winning that gold medal is first but after i want to continue to compete as long as i can as a professional athlete, stay in front of the cameras as long as i can. i'm interested in speaking, maybe broadcasting. i have a big heart for kids in the community and education and sports. so i'm going to be running camps, clinics, being involved in different things. i'm also just being a great representative. i take that role model job very seriously because i know i needed it when i was growing up. so -- >> and you've got your name, of course, with somebody very famous. >> yes. >> tell me about that. >> dr. maya angelou, my mom named me after that.

>> why did she choose that? >> she was very moved. she was able to go to an event. i don't know, sometimes before she had me, i think she was pregnant by me. she was moved by dr. angelou and thought it was a beautiful name. >> she would be pretty proud at how you turned out? >> i hope so. i hope so. she's a phenomenal women. >> best of luck at the olympics. >> thank you so much. >> maya moore and her team go for the gold this weekend. shannon tyler is having friends over for a "back to school" clothing party. what they don't know is they're on hidden camera, and all the clothes are actually from walmart. let's see what happens. they feel really soft. i like it.

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the familiar sights of the scenes of mass shootings from columbine. this week's tragedy in wisconsin. one man is building these crosses, thousands of them. his name is greg and he's a remarkable american with an incredible story to tell. greg, welcome to the show. i found it very moving when i heard about your story, a dedication that you give to this. explain to me what motivated you to start with? >> to start with, my

father-in-law was murdered in 1996 and i found his body and i rarely relate to people who have had a huge loss like that. what really is so important, piers, is that family members, they want their loved ones to be remembered and when you put up a memorial, whether it's a cross or a wreath or a star or crescent, right away you're giving family members a sense of, my son was important. and you probably know i put up a lot of very public memorials and a lot of that really -- it's for the public to have a place to go to, too, when a community whether it's in wisconsin or in aurora, colorado, has something this devastating happen to them, they need to get out of their houses and go to this memorial and possibly be able to lay a flower down or bring a teddy bear or some way to deal with it

and we're experiencing this phenomena where immediately, if some guy goes off and takes a gun and kills somebody, everybody knows his name the very next day but nobody -- if it wasn't kind of, you know, what i'm trying to do is bring the victims into this and change the stories a little bit and let's talk about the victims, their lives shattered and then being publicly a victim, that's got to be the hardest thing but placing a memorial in my eyes, this is -- this is where the soul leaves to go to heaven. and with that hope in mind, there's not a total loss. >> the point is, you do a very special thing. you've made over 13,000 of these white crosses and normally i would ask a second question but you said everything really that anyone needs to hear about this. it's an extraordinary thing that you do and i want to say on