she gets older what you put them through? >> yeah. absolutely. adults do stupid things. >> rielle, thank you for coming on. >> thanks for having me. . >> i'm don lemon and the stories you are talking about in a moment. i want to get you up to speed on the day's headlines. 12 people have walked on the moon and neal armstrong was the very first one. today the legendary astronaut died. his family said complications followed a heart operation earlier this month. neal armstrong was 82. president barack obama called armstrong one of the greatest of american heroes. >> police gunfire injured nine people and unluckily bystander who is witnessed the shooting outside the empire state building, the nine were hit as officers fired 16 shots at a man who killed a former coworker. the gunman was killed in the

exchange. the threat of tropical storm isaac caused republicans to rearrange their convention plans. all of the major events have been pushed back to begin no sooner than tuesday afternoon. the gop will be left with a three-day convention. . >> let's talk about tropical storm isaac. taking aim at south florida as it cuts a path across the caribbean. rob is in the severe weather center. when can we expect isaac to reach florida? >> the southern tip as early as tomorrow. the keys and even in miami as this thing makes its way there. 350 miles from key west with 60 mile an hour winds. it's just now reemerging into the caribbean or the southern atlantic and into the florida straights. the forecast track for this thing brings it towards key west. it looks like tomorrow afternoon

and tomorrow night. eastern sides, miami up to fort lauderdale, you will get action here as far as strong winds and heavy rain. tampa feels it as well and probably in the form of gusty winds. tropical storm force winds and that's the main reason. monday will be an ugly day and at times it can be dangerous. landfall looks like anywhere from normalcy back to florida as a degree two storm late tuesday into wednesday. we will have an update in about 50 minutes. >> stick around. we will need you. wait until you see what else we are working on here tonight. it's sill season out there. >> he tried to hand over the sovereignty of the united states. >> a civil war if president obama is reelected? birth certificates,liars, felons. enough already. what's real? what's bs? we will tell you. >> they're got the flag up now and you can see the stars and

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to put an end to the sill side of this race for the white house. let's start with an obvious example and one of the most recent. here's missouri congressman t d orks dro toddd akin. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has a way to shut it down. i think there should be punishment, but in the rapist and not attacking the child. >> ana navarro is here. ana is a republican strategist and omar is at the university of north carolina. we will go to ana first. because you are a woman, tell us, legitimate? what is this? >> it's legitimately stupid, don. i don't think the comments made by congressman akin are sill. they are ignorant and stupid and

have noplace and no room in today's society. you have seen a strong reaction. that's why you saw the reaction from so many leaders in the republican party saying look, we condemn these words and don't think this is right. we are not going to accept it. we don't want any part of it. that's why he is not here now facing a hurricane athe rest of us are. >> he is still in the race and still could win. >> yeah. what's happening is that more and more people are rejecting this kind of silliness as you described. that's why you have so many people leaving and basically not the republican and democratic party, but the system as a whole. what i think is important is that independence which are the fastest growing group of american voters stay in and assert their voices. it's really the future that is important in terms of changing the political culture. without a change in the culture, we are going to keep going down this road of silliness. >> i am going to get through a number of these.

next, this one. he said it was a joke. whatever it was, we are not debating that. why, why, why did mitt romney go there yesterday? listen. >> i love being home in this place where ann and i were raised and both of us were born. ann was born at henry ford and i was born at harper hospital. no one asked to see my birth certificate. they know this is the place we were born and raised. >> ana, we are not going to debate why he said it, but the president has shown his birth certificate. in a word, where was the president born? >> the united states of america in hawaii. >> omar? >> as far as we all know, usa. >> good. it wasn't one word, but you know what i meant. i wanted you to give it to me. we are sick of debating this. >> the problem is some people are not funny and they don't

know it. i think mitt romney should stick to the serious stuff. >> people were saying when people said why would he say something like that? it was uncalled-for. many people saw it as partisan. the reason is he is trying to focus. they are trying to fus on the economy and by bringing this up, this changes the focus and that was a headline from yesterday and this weekend and not the focus on the economy. we are not calling out republicans. i want you to check out this super pac ad. listen. >> when mitt romney and bain closed the plant, i lost my health care and my family lost health care. a short time after that my wife became ill. i don't know how long she was sick and think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew we wouldn't afford the insurance. day she became ill and i took

her up to the jackson county hospital and admitted her and she found the cancer. by then it was stage 4. nothing they could do for her. >> this is basically implying that mitt romney's business practices somehow caused this woman's cancer death. omar, truth or dare or outrageous? >> all of these things are really silly claims. i don't want to get into the details of it because that's feeding into this game of tit for tat. they play with each other to keep the american people divided. that's not the way we should be going forward. whatever the case may be, let's look at the larger issue, the issue of the partisanship and what can be done about that. something that can be done is if president obama can come out strongly in favor of nonpartisan reforms and reconnect the way he did in 2008 and won him. >> stand by and you bring up a good point.

that's a legitimate point. ana, what do you say to that? >> i say to that, it was inaccurate and it played with people's emotions and what you saw in that ad was the influence of super pacs. this was a super pac-made ad and that gives the ability to deny having association. we know in truth that these are super pacs that support a specific candidate. a candidate can condemn an ad. they cannot coordinate, but they can say publicly we don't want that ad playing. i pish president obama had the leadership and character to say that. >> mitt romney did not cause this woman's cancer death f. anyone implies that or says that, it is not true. it's bs. how is this for crazy? an all out civil war, president obama is reelected. that's what one judge said. bs or not? ♪

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we are talking politics. crazy talk in politics and we will cut through the craziness. why there is so much of it and what you can do about it. how is this for soaking the flame of fear. a texas man in charge of his county's emergency planning committee said a civil war could erupt if president obama gets reelected. >> he will try to hand over the sovereignty of the united states to the un. what will happen when that

happens? i think worst case scenario. civil unrest and diso beat yens. civil war. we are not talking riots and demonstrations. we are talking lexington concord take up arms and get rid of the guy. >> ana, quickly, yes or no. is president obama ever going to turn control of the u.s. over to the un ever? >> don, you want a quick answer to that one? baker act him. he should be committed. that is crazy talk. crazy doesn't have a party. there is crazies on the democrat and the republican side. >> omar, same question. >> no, it's ridiculous. a a silly claim. >> a two for again. now from the obama campaign, first she accused mitt romney it

for lie being his tenure. >> either mitt romney through his own words and his own signature was misrepresenting his position at bain to the sec which say felony or he was misrepresenting his position at bain to the american people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investments. >> just the other day, the president said no one on his team accused romney of being a felon. you say what to that? >> again, these are things that are being done in order to strike fear and demonize which is why in some ways many people are saying enough already. silliness. >> ana? >> beyond the pail, irresponsible, slanderous. >> number two. comparing president obama's job creation numbers to president reagan's. >> over the past 27 months, we created 4.5 million private

sector jobs. that's more jobs than the bush and the reagan recovery. >> that was her on "morning joe." right wing blogs went crazy, but here are the facts. no matter how you crunch the numbers, that statement is untrue. reagan created 7 million jobs and obama more than 4 million so far. as president george w. bush used to say, that's fuzzy math. president one. the first president bush. >> that's beyond fuzzy math. that's spinning like a yo-yo. >> here's the thing. omar with this and other things, i am wondering if people ever think that no one is going to check on this. these are people who are smart. at least they are book smart. what is going on here? why are they doing it and what is the solution?

>> okay. so basically we have a system that thrives on the winner take all. it's not a very democratic system. basically in that kind of a bipartisan system where you try to win it, you do it at all costs. that means throwing around numbers that may or may not be true. in some ways if they repeat the numbers enough, some say the population will believe that. the solution is in terms of going beyond this, breaking up the control that parties have over the political process and increasing the participation of americans. that's why in n some ways independents come in. they are the hope of the future. 42% of americans self-identify as independent. in north carolina where i am, two out of three new registered voters are registered as unaffiliated. the reason is partisanship as broadly recognized as the

problem in america. we have brilliant solutions to things, but they don't get all the way in terms of policy because they are blocked for partisan reasons by special interest, etc. there is a great new book. i wanted to mention, it details the rise of independence. that continues to be related to and a side thing in american politics. it's fundamental now and a growing phenomena in america. >> i heard this a number of times and the whole thing they were doing that came about when i was on vacation and we were all sitting around to dinner and people were saying you know, i am consirveative on this and liberal on this and i feel one way about this and one way about this and i don't identify with democrats or republicans because most of the time it's bickering. what happens? independents and i am being honest, they don't feel that they have the power to make that

big of a difference here. i know that you are a republican strategist, but i am sure you heard that before and you understand the disconnect here. >> but i think that's completely wrong and you should tell your independent friends, they are the most powerful voters in america right now. the country is so polarized, there is a decided electorate. the democrats and republicans. we are all fighting over a small portion of independent voter who is can make or break the election and the very important battle ground states. you know why they do this silly ads? because they can, don. because they can. there is no penalty to pay. until voters really get turned off and say no more, we are not going to take it and we will be educated about the truth. they are going to continue doing it. it's up to the voters. there is power in voting and democracy and we have to take it

back. >> in the meantime, the people in the middle say we don't care whose is bigger and who created more jobs. we want a job and we want to be able to pay our bills. we have to run. we are out of time. we will have you back. we will have you back here to one of the original independents. >> thank you, done. >> one thing we can agree on for sure, the bickering needs to go. no more republicans and no more democrats. how about that. that's next. >> you are out and about and not in front of a television to stay connectioned to cnn, you can pull it up on your cell phone or watch it from your computer even at work. go to cnn.com/tv. tell them don lemon sent you. (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go,

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>> per we just finished talking about all the things from cancer deaths to birth certificates to a potential civil war. it's enough to make you not want to vote for either of these

people. the rivalry is fueling the craziness and that's why my guests said enough is enough and they let their affiliation and stuck out on their own. the former two-term governor of new mexico and running for president as a libertarian. the governor ran in this primary and turned the reform project. you are an independent now, right? prar that's correct. i changed. i was a democrat for 20 years and a republican for 20 years. i'm going to try independent. >> good to see both of you. i will start with you first, gary. is this system broken? >> yeah, it's a vote between tweetsds dee and tweetsds dum. people really care about ending the wars and stopping the spending and i think i'm going to end up being that third voice. >> when you sa gary johnson, people say i heart of mitt

romney and president obama. i have heard of paul ryan, but who is this gary johnson guy? do you feel like you are shutout of the process in any way? >> completely. if it were reported tomorrow that i was at 5% of the national vote, they would say who the hell is gary johnson. that would be a good thing. being on your show here, don. thank you. if it drives people to gary johnson twenl 12.com, i feel good about the results that people will actually look up and maybe take it to heart. >> that was a shameless plug and i allowed it. >> shameless, that's what this is all about, isn't it? >> do you mind if i call you buddy? >> call me buddy. it's fine. >> is this two-party system broken? >> it is. the largest party in america are the independents. the party growing the fastest in

america today and check the facts is the independent party. we have 90 million americans that won't vote in november. 90 million. this country is in trouble and most people feel like there no choices. i think they like barack obama, but are certainly not sold on his policies. i don't think they really like mitt romney or know any of his policies, yet all the media talks about tweetsds dee and tweetsds dum as gary says. the issue is reform. can we build our country and neither party has an answer. >> all the media talks about, tweetsds dee and tweetsds dum. let's talk about the media. i heard gary johnson and others, people who say listen, i'm not a part of the two major political parties. i don't get invited to cnn or any other network to be in the debates. i'm not part of the polling.

do you think the media is part of the problem and that needs to be fix as well will? >> and the two parties. gary johnson was a two-term governor of new mexico. did hell of a job. he is a private business man who built a fantastic company. me and i walk through new hampshire together. 23 initial televised debates in the republican primary. you know how many gary got invited to? two. i might be exaggerating. maybe it was one. there is a man that qualified and the republicans didn't even let him on the stage. >> what would it take to create a true sort of third party movement, a party that has influence and can be a part of the process and start the ball rolling so that these polarized sides don't have a mo nopely on the process. >> that's what i am engaged in and will ditto that when it

comes to buddy. very complimentary. the service as both a democrat and a republican. if there was anybody out there who should have been able to talk on both parties, it would have been buddy. he was shutout. buddy and i are in new hampshire and am knocking on 20 door. guess how many people i reached. >> what did you do? >> in this case really there was an exclusion by the media. i was excluded from the debates where i was told that i had to be at 1% in a, b, and c polls. i was not in a, b, c polls. how do you get in if you are not in the polls and very, very exclusionary. this is the battle and i'm looking at this. >> hang on. i want you to get in here, but i'm out of time. we have to go, we have to go.

answer the question. what do you think, buddy, what is it going to take to break the monopoly? >> campaign reforms. let the american people get in it. campaign reform. neither candidate is talking about campaign reform. super pacs, packs, bundled money and special interest and wall street money. let's let the american people stand up. i tell you how it's going to happen. some day we let a woman or a man voice those sentiments on national television wi the two party candidates standing right there. >> instead we are talking about dogs on roofs, birth certificates and legitimate rapes. >> ridiculous and the people are going what the heck is going on. i wish i had more time. i appreciate it. tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. eastern, cnn presents a profile of romney reveals and the road to power. we will be followed at 9:30 by

the live convention preview. while we are on the subject of politics and pole dancing. the two have more in common than you think. you want to fasten your seatbelts for this story. >> it's hard to imagine a future without these things. >> it's not a bird or a clip from "star wars." it's the future.

you have to see this next story. the flying speeder bikes are no longer at the forest of indoors. >> over there. >> just above the ground, the speeder bikes and return of the jedi. fascinated audiences. the idea seemed outrageous or is it? take a look at this. a company called aero fets does what it said it does. a fundamental change as we about

it. i spoke with the founder and engineer earlier about this creation. >> it took you a couple of years. is is really cool. how did you come up with it and how long did it take to you do this? >> we have been working on the project since about 2002. about ten years. we had our first flight 2008 and ran into problems right away, but the last ten months we have seen a success. >> what took you so long to do it. it's almost like a flying bicycle. >> almost exactly like that. the difficulty came in the control. they started these things in the 60s. they gave up on them. we ran into the same problems that day around 2010. mostly through persistence, we worked through the issues to come up with what you see today. it really is just a control just like a bike. the pilot is not in a control.

the vehicle reacts to the pilot. >> it's intuitive. before we get to that, you ran into the same issues that they did starting in the 60s. that was stability or instability. >> pay went to an artificial stability system that added complexity. for us that would have been out of the question. if we had to go that route, we would have developed the project. we worked around it by getting simpler and simpler. we were able to solve the problem by getting the pilot in the league. >> one would think it's computerized and fans or whatever. it is intuitive, but it works depending on the motion or it knows where to go? >> there is not a computer on the system. all it is is the vehicle itself, the interface is such that is tracks the pilot's movements.

the vehicle reacts by following the pilots and moves it left. it gives the sensation that his leaning create the left bank. the nose goes down and the vehicle goes forward. the pilot leans back and nose up. >> when you did your deft, you did another run. in the desert in california, it's a video we have been showing. tell us what's going on in this video. how does it t work. sometimes you get higher and sometimes lower. is it the fans underneath? what makes it do that? >> great question. there is two fans. one this front of the other like on a motorcycle. the wheels are turned horizontal. what is happening is when a pilot gives throttle, that will give you altitude. we fly at about five feet off the ground and we haven't gone faster than 30. as you need to change the thrust by moving the nose up or down or

the rolling left or right, just to turn, it's similar to a bike. >> do you think there is a market and we will be using these fairly soon? >> i can't imagine a future where the vehicles are not prevalent. they will come up with an unmanned vehicle and the same as you see there, but unmanned for agriculture. it's a big market that benefits from ariel application. we move it back into the manned one and you see it come on the market first for border patrol where you have a lot of borders that don't have roads. >> i wonder if you regulate it. >> as long as we stay here on ground, for this type of vehicle about this size is about 15 feet. as long as you are under that, the faa doesn't consider you an aircraft. >> only at 30 miles per hour. do you think it would be safe any faster than that?

>> we know it will be. the vehicles in the 60s are able to go 75 miles per hour. >> there is criticism that it's not stable, but that's done. >> that's correct. the stability issue will have to creep up on slowly and find out where we see the gremlins in the flying, but at 30, we are doing fine. we know physically, it can get up to 70. >> say they go on the market. the that you have now, the prototype, how much is it? >> i'm embarrassed to say how much it costs. if we were to count the sum of the parts and we get a good indication. it's an answer, if you look at the flight quality and safe, you couldn't get it to market for under $50,000. if you were to look at the high end and if we were over $100,000, you missed the market and we have to redesign and go back to the drawing board. it can't be that expensive and too cheap.

you are looking somewhere in between. >> thank you. it's so cool. i love it. >> thanks, don. appreciate it. >> those are one of the coolest things i have ever seen. mark and his team hope to have the robotic version of the vehicle out by next year and a man version in a year over two after that. rain or shine, come tropical storm or high water, republicans will be going to the polls at the rnc in tampa. not those polls, these poles.

hurricanes and like to rain on the republican parade. the last time one disrupted a convention was the last in 2008. could mother nature be a democrat. first the elephant in the room often comes with dollar bills. republicans coming to the tampa convention. he made a big and bountiful

strip club. dancers say they could make more than a thousand dollars a day. talk about a grand old party. >> i rehired my trainer and working with three trainers to get myself back in shape in the next week and a half as wick quickly as possible. i am pushing a lot harder and know the girls here have as well. >> she is training. this is like the strip olympics. the republican strategist is back. to you first. this is a nonspecific and formal study. republicans spend about 1,000 dollars more per person than dems. >> this is a republican stimulus package. get the economy working. it causes some to trickle up. let them have fun. they were just here. the governor and the republicans have more fun at the

conventions. unless it's illegal. let them have a good time. >> what do you say? >> look, republicans tip better. what can i tell you? strippers can vote too. maybe it's just voter outreach. maybe republicans are out there doing their own unscientific polls. they are citizens. they can vote. political outreach. >> they are probably independents. most strippers are independents. that's a tough market to get. it's good to get them. >> every vote you can get. let's talk about isaac. this one, gustav was a hurricane that forced cancellations at the 2008 convention, sending mccain and laura bush from the stage to rally americans. >> as john has been saying for the last several days, this is a time when we take off our republican hats and put on our american hats. >> americans are known for coming to the aid of their

fellow citizens. let's work together. >> is mother nature a democrat? >> no, i don't think mother nature is a democrat. mother nature is hang fun with republicans. this is the third that that gets disrupted, but as i remember being in new york in 2004, we had a hurricane coming from florida. jeb bush, the brother of the then president did not go, but this happens. it's august in florida. we are a paradise in the winter and we get hurricanes and storms in the summer. that one you played was in minnesota. when we were getting the hurricane -- >> what was happening down in the gulf and it would look bad and that's what happened. >> before we --

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we had that and we are told it's true. we will talk about something far more than that. prince harry embarrassed the queen again this week in las vegas. why do people care so much? most of the guys i talk to, younger people were like hey, man, have your fun. i was a prince and 27 and single. they didn't think he's a big deal. >> he's living that life. he is there like charlie sheen. he got in trouble for being in a nazi uniform. rather naked than in a nazi uniform. i think he should be applauded. he is taking a step forward and he's naked, but he's not a prince albert. >> he probably should be more careful, but if he's single and 27, who cares? >> all i can say is i'm glad i'm

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. the cnn severe weather center and here the latest regarding isaac which is not a hurricane yet, but we anticipate it being that. still a tropical storm moving west northwest at 17 miles an hour. off the coast of cuba, about 340 miles from key west and heading in that direction. some of the moisture associated with it is reaching out to southern florida. let's talk about the updated forecast track. we get into the florida straights and we start experiencing potentially hurricane force conditions and through miami tomorrow afternoon and tomorrow night and into the gulf of mexico, tampa gets the worst weather on monday. likely tropical storm weather and the california two storm towards the panhandle on tuesday and wednesday. >> you will be a busy man. thank you, sir. next -- >> they got the flag up now.

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. you are about to see one of the coolest things ever broadcast on television. stick around. america lost a legend today with the passing of former astronaut neal armstrong. the first man to ever walk on the moon. we take you backo the moment in history, july 20th, 1969. >> guidance is internal. 12, 11, 10, 9, ignition sequence

starts. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, zero. all engines. we have a lift off. >> drifting to the right a little. >> starting second. the engine stops. the eagle has landed. we got it. >> armstrong is on the moon. neal armstrong. 38-year-old american. standing on the surface of the moon. on this july 20th, 1969. >> one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. >> i have a beautiful view.