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good morning to you. welcome to "starting point" here on this tuesday i'm brooke baldwin. >> and i'm john berman. soledad o'brien is off this week. our starting point, remembering the victims of 9/11. eleven years after the worst terror attack on american soil, this morning a momentous victory for some of the heroes who paid the price to serve their country. also this morning, here we go, day two this teacher strike that is absolutely reverberating across the country. thousands of chicago public school teachers in this bitter, bitter dispute with the mayor, labor unions coming under siege. the question is, is a resolution at all in sight? and four hours, 54 minutes later, history finally made at the u.s. open. >> oh. >> complete with some tears. what a moment. >> huge show today. take a look who will be talking to. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. also current mayor, michael bloomberg. homeland security chairman congressman peter king.
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homeland security adviser to president bush fran townsend. and author and actor and apparent teaer of at least a year, tony danza. >> it is tuesday, september 11th. "starting point" begins right now. >> and good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us here. our starting point here, no signs of progress. but no deal yet. we say yet, for these 30,000 teachers just about on strike in the city of chicago. which means, 350,000 students have yet another unscheduled day off. >> we are the union. >> the teachers want what they consider to be a fair contract. casey wian is at manuel perez junior elementary school in chicago. and casey, depending on who you listen to, there was some movement toward a deal overnight. but there are still some sticking points.
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>> that's right, john. there are absolutely some sticking points. the two sides both say that a deal is within reach. but two major issues remain. and they weren't even talking about those issues last night. the first one is something that the teachers are actually not legally authorized to strike over, and that is the authorization of principals of individual schools to decide which teachers they want to hire. the union wants recently laid off teachers to get first priority for those jobs. chicago myer rahm emanuel and the school board, they want individual principals to have the hiring decisions in their control. the other issues, also very contentious, is how teachers are evaluated. there's a new system that's going to be going into place, or at least proposed new system, that would evaluate teachers according to the union, in their view, too much on standardized testing. the union says that those teachers in lower income neighborhoods, those students nationally score lower most of the time so the teacher
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evaluations in those cases are unfair. those two issues are remaining sticking points. both sides pretty much acknowledge that they pretty much settled over the salary issue. they say a deal is within reach. negotiations are expected to resume at 9:30 local time this morning. but for now, no deal, john. >> all right, casey wian on the ground in chicago. coming up in just a few minutes, someone at the center of the national debate on these issues, randi weingarten joins us. she is the president of the american federation of teachers. >> look at other top stories. in america, remembering the 2,977 lives lost on september eleven thth, 2001. eleven years ago today. so at ground zero this morning, family members of the victims will participate in the traditional reading of the names. that ceremony will begin at 8:39. that is eastern time, and it will be marked by six moments of silence. two at the precise times those planes hit the twin towers. two at the times each tower then fell. and two to mark the exact moments of the attacks of flight
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393 and the pentagon. >> the president and first lady will observe a moment of silence at the white house before arriving at the pentagon at 9:20 eastern. there will be a wreath-laying ceremony to honor the 184 lives lost there. and vice president biden will speak at a ceremony at the flight 93 memorial in shanksville, pennsylvania. that at 10:00 a.m. eastern. defense secretary leon panetta toured the site where those historic passengers and crew members took their own plane down. >> successfully prevented an attack on the united states capitol. i am particularly thankful to them because on that fateful day i was at the u.s. capitol. their example continues to inspire and to strengthen our nation. >> in the next half hour, "starting point" will be joined
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by former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. that live and current new york mayor michael bloomberg all live on "starting point." >> also this morning this dispute that had stalled for quite some time the construction of the 9/11 museum at ground zero appears to be settled this morning. just last night new york governor andrew cuomo, new york city mayor michael bloomberg, and new jersey governor chris christie struck this deal so construction of the $700 million museum which was supposed to open in 2009, is expected to resume very soon. no date has been set yet for that opening. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula suffers a major blow. yemen's military has killed the second in command there. abu said al shihri. he was responsible for improvement and fund-raising. local officials say he was killed by a u.s. drone strike on a car. participation is building for release of the iphone 5 tomorrow. not only could it apparently boost apple's bottom line a
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jpmorgan economist says the sales could give a significant boost to the overall u.s. economy. yes our economy. he estimates it could add between a quarter and a half percentage point to the country's gdp in the fourth quarter. analysts expect apple to sell 8 million iphone 5s in the last quarter. >> 8 million one, counting me. a scary moment during wwe's monday night raw. jerry "the king" lawler collapsed during last night's live broadcast. the co-host broke the news to fans with an empty chair right next to him. >> i want to preface this by saying this is not part of tonight's entertainment. this is a real-life situation. my broadcast colleague jerry "the king" lawler earlier on tonight collapsed midmatch while on commentary. he was -- fell out of his chair to the floor below, doctors were here immediately. emergency personnel stretchered him out of the arena to the back where he received cpr.
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>> cole clearly shaken there. lawler was rushed to the hospital. a statement on wwe's website says he suffered a heart attack. history made at the u.s. open tennis tournament. andy murray becomes the first british player to win a grand slam -- he was almost in disbelief -- men's title in 76 years. he defended defending champ novak djokovic in a five-set thriller that lasted 4 hours 54 minutes. tying the record for the longest men's final in u.s. open history. >> well, i've been in that position many times before and not one, you do think, you know, is it ever going to happen, you know and then when it finally does, you just -- you're obviously very, very excited. but, mainly relieved to have got over that last hurdle. >> murray had previously lost four grand slam finals, including wimbledon just this
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year. but he's been on a bit of a roll now. he also won the olympic gold medal. >> he was so exhausted last night. but he was more like a puddle. >> after five hours. hello. >> the major news today, of course, it is day two of that massive teacher strike that has people all over the country questioning the state of our education system. 30,000 teachers affected, 350,000 students. and right now, no sign of a deal. >> joining us now is the president of the american federation of teachers, randi weingarten. the chicago teachers union an affiliate of weingarten's association. >> good morning. >> before we even get into the minutia that is so, so crucial in chicago right now, can you help hit this home for us nationally. why should teachers across the country pay attention to what's happening in chicago? >> well, i think it's why should communities pay attention to what's happening in chicago. between the need to actually help kids really learn how to
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apply knowledge, not rote memorization skills, combined with the poverty that is increasing in this country, combined with all of the budget cuts, it has made situations all across the country really difficult for both parents and teachers. and a lot of that is playing itself out in chicago. so, what the chicago teachers want is books on time for kids. they want to make sure that kids have low enough class sizes, and what's happened is that the administration is basically not listening to them, and that's why you've had this strike. >> i want to talk to you about the crux it seems, how to evaluate the teachers which you touched on. what you do with laid off teachers. we've heard from the school board president david vitale last night and he is saying this should be resolved today. >> look, i'm on my way out there today. i'm on the phone with folks in chicago all weekend long. both sides did a lot this weekend to try to get to resolution. >> but -- >> but what's happened is they were so far apart, the union has
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been raising these issues for months. for months. because they want to make sure that teachers -- if you listen to teachers, in chicago, they're saying we're open to the longer day. but let's actually make sure that the time that we have with kids is about teaching and learning, not about test prep. and so that's -- so when you listen, what's happened is this weekend, because no one wants a strike. we want to serve kids. what happened is this weekend finally there was enough kind of movement, and i'm cautiously optimistic that there will be more and more movement. that the teachers want to make sure they can help kids and have the tools to help kids, and they can't have things like social workers, and wraparound services. that's what it's really about. >> you're talking about these things. but the holdup here seems to be or one of the major holdups seems to be on the issue of testing and evaluating teachers. what is wrong with using standardized tests as one means to evaluate teacher performance?
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25% of their evaluation. not all of it. >> nothing is wrong with -- answering the two questions. have i taught? and have kids learned it? nothing's wrong with that. that's what we're doing across the country. that's not the issue here. the issue here is that there's such a fixation on testing that testing is driving it, and what are these tests about? these tests are about rote memorization as opposed to how you make sure that kids actually know things, and creatively think. >> let me just press you on that for a moment. because we understand from chicago public schools, they say that the growth on tests, that's only based on 25%. >> actually, look, i -- i -- you know, neither -- neither the school system, or myself, should be talking about the substance of what's going on in the negotiations. but, that is not what's going on in the negotiations. the issue in terms of the chicago negotiations on evaluation is that the good -- the best evaluation systems are
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ones where there are a whole bunch of measures. what's happening here is that testing is actually driving teaching. and that doesn't work for tests that are currently administered. the testing experts have said they have no validity in terms of evaluating teachers. we have negotiated evaluation systems all across the country. the ones that really work, like the ones in new haven, are ones that are done correctly, and carefully, and collaboratively. >> there are studies, including from the manhattan institute of higher learning that says value added measurements which include testing can be effective ways in evaluating teachers. >> what i'm saying is that the issue is the fixation on testing as opposed to the tools and conditions and the other measures. but once- let me talk about tennessee for a second. where it's exclusively on where there's exclusively on testing. what's happening right now is that there was a revolution of parents and teachers because it wasn't about actually teaching
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kids. everything become about the test. you're starting to see that throughout the country. if you have, in chicago, the equivalent of 18 to 25 days that are focused on test prep, as opposed to on project-based learning, as opposed to on teaching, that's not good for kids. >> let me be clear, they're talking about 25% of the evaltion -- >> actually. >> and in florida it's 50%. so in chicago it's less than some places. >> actually that's not the fixation that the what i've heard from the table is absolutely the opposite. but, my point is, the issue is, there has to be multiple measures. it has to be answering the question, have i taught it, and have kids learned it? but you have to have the tools and conditions to help kids learn and to level the playing field for kids. if a child comes in hungry to school, we have to make sure that child is fed. if a child comes in without the kind of services that -- after-school services and other things we have to make sure that that happens. we have to meet kids where they are. >> parents are frustrated because they're not able, some of them are so frightened by some of the picket lines they're
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not even dropping their kids off for the contingency plans for schools. so many other questions we have for you with regard to politics. the president not exactly taking sides, mitt romney. stay with us. we're going to talk to you next hour about how this is factoring in nationally. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> ahead on "starting point," a couple in massachusetts is now suing a roman catholic diocese because the church refused to sell them a mansion. why they say this is discrimination. also ahead, cnn going in-depth on economic issues, all this week, so coming up next, both president obama, and mitt romney, say they want to change the tax code, but wha will happen to your money under each candidate's plan? christine romans breaks down the numbers for u.s. you are watching "starting point." and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. with our award winning apps that allow you to transfer funds, pay bills or manage your finances anywhere, anytime.
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all right. welcome back to "starting point." 17 minutes past the hour. minding your business this morning, all this week, cnn is going in-depth on the biggest issue, of course, the 2012 election. that being the economy. >> today what we're going to look at is what would happen to your money under mitt romney and president obama's tax and investment plans? christine romans has been breaking all of this down, analyzing each candidate's plan and she's here for us right now. >> good morning you guys. would you like to know what your tax bill is going to be exactly one year from now? obama wants to tax the rich more. romney wants to cut income tax rates for everyone, even the very rich. >> i'm not proposing anything radical here. i just believe that anybody making over $250,000 a year should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under bill clinton. >> i will not raise taxes on the
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american people, i will not raise taxes on middle-income americans. we're going to make sure that americans have the money to pay their bills. >> all right. details are thin for romney's plan. but here's what we do know. what would happen to income taxes? income tax rates. romney wants to cut income tax rates by 20% for every income level. obama wants to split up the higher tax bracket and tax the rich more. now the big question is what would happen to some big deductions like carried interest. that's something that really rich people know about. the child tax credit and the mortgage interest deduction. we just don't know what romney has planned for those quite frankly. again details are thin. w for investments the differences in the plans can begin with taxes on the rich. high-income earners making $200,000 a year or more their capital gains and dividends are currently taxed at 15%. romney wants to keep it that way. but obama wants to raise taxes on capital gains to 20% and dividends as high as 39.6%. we don't know how this will be
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paid for. romney's running mate paul ryan addressed this over the weekend. >> now the question is, not necessarily what loopholes go, but who gets them. high income earners use most of the loopholes. that means they can shelter their income from taxation. but if you take those loopholes, those tax shelters away from high income earners, more of their income is subject to taxation and that allows us to lower tax rates on everybody. small businesses, families, economic growth. >> all right. no more details about which loopholes would be closed. we wanted to do a comparison of what would happen to the median income family making say $50,000 a year. but you just can't really do that given the information available for romney's plan on taxes. we asked the romney campaign for an analysis of what would happen to the average family under president romney and they said they have not done an analysis of an average family. the official we spoke to who didn't want to be named said that anyone who says romney wants to get rid of the child tax credit is wrong.
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that's not true. this official would not explain what romney would do to any other tax credits or that one. >> these details are really, really important by the way. if you don't say who would lose the mortgage tax deduction, you're not really sure whose taxes are going up and down. >> a lot of people have been asking about the carried interest. that's something that people like mitt romney benefit from. he gets richer and richer every year because of that particular tax deduction. a lot of people have been asking what happens to that one as well. we know he would lower the marginal rate for everyone by 20%. okay but what about all the other stuff that goes around it? >> a lot of questions. >> we'll find out at the deba debates. >> we're going to continue this in-depth conversation tomorrow on "starting point." christine will look at everything, the housing situation in this country, breaking down president obama and mitt romney's plans to help homeowners. >> can only imagine the reading material at night. if you have a personal economic story you would like to share with us please do. go to our cnn ireport website. check out our assignment page.
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welcome back to "starting point" everyone. stories in the headlines, a hacker from the group anonymous is taking responsibility for crashing the website of the massive web hosting company godaddy. millions of websites that use godaddy servers also appear to have crashed yesterday. the company says service was restored to most of its clients within a few hours. she is young. she's smart and talented. and dangerous. actress emma watson of harry
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potter fame tops mcafee's 2012 list of the most dangerous celebrities to search for online. the software security firm says many sites use her name to trick people into downloading malware or steal your personal informatn. so watch out when you search her name apparently, there is a one in eight chance of finding a malicious site. after watson on the list you have favorite celebrities, jessica biel, eva mendes, selena gomez, halle berry and john berman. >> yeah, right. >> butanyway, the only guy, in fact, to crack mcafee's top 20, jimmy kimmel. >> i'm outraged that anyone would pick on hermione. a gay couple in massachusetts is suing the catholic does os ease of worcest worcester. they claim they're refusing to sell them a mansion because they're gay and are afraid they'll stage same-sex weddings there. the two men want to purchase the million dollar oakhurst mansion and turn it into an event hall. they say they were mistakenly
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sent a copy of an e-mail in which a monsignor told a real estate broker after checking with a bishop the deal was off. an attorney for the diocese said financial concerns, not discrimination, ended the deal. still ahead special coverage of the september 11th terrorist attack 11 years later, including a momentous change this morning. a long, long time coming, that will help our many heroes exposed to toxic dust and smoke and the fumes there at ground zero. the mayor of new york during that fateful day on 9/112001. rudy giuliani, joins us live from lower manhattan. >> also with us current new york city mayor, mayor michael bloomberg. and an agreement which is now paving the way for the completion of the september 11th museum. that was a contentious fight there. it has been solved. we'll tell you all about it. look, i don't play 'bout my facial hair. if i grow this out a little bit, i look too much like an english country gent... naaah. a little this way and i feel like i'm from outer space. this and i feel like a viking...
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point," everyone. we're marking eleven years since the september 11th terror attacks that claimed the lives of nearly 3,000 people in new york, shanksville, pennsylvania, and the pentagon. and this morning, a victory for those who were exposed to toxins at ground zero. >> 50 different types of cancer are now being added to the list of the world trade center related diseases that will now be covered by the federal government under the 9/11 zadroga act. it is, of course, welcome news for hundreds of first responders and volunteers whose heroic actions eleven years ago today left them sick, left them bankrupt. >> i lived on staten island at the time and i could see the smoke coming from the tower. >> reporter: ernie rushed to the world trade center site on september 11th, 2001, to help with rescue and recovery efforts. >> a lot of confusion. a lot of smoke. you couldn't -- you couldn't see when you were trying to walk through the smoke to search for survivors, you could barely see your hand in front of you. >> reporter: then a new york city police detective, he spent
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six months at the site. a few years later, he was diagnosed with cancer. >> 2004 is when i was diagnosed with non-hodgkin's lymphoma. >> reporter: his cancer now in remission, he had to use his retirement savings to pay bills his insurance didn't cover. and is hoping to recoup some of that money. >> it's been something that they've been talking about for, you know, ten years now. >> reporter: he and other first responders made sick by the chemicals and dust are still waiting for compensation from the government. payments to some who developed respiratory, digestive and other conditions should begin in the next couple of months under a law president obama signed in january of 2011. the zadroga act, named after new york police detective james zadroga, who died of a respiratory illness after working at the world trade center site. it sets aside some $2.8 billion to cover their claims. this attorney represents 4,000 first responders who became ill. >> people are terribly sick.
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people can't support their families. this program is in a very real sense a lifeline that is going to help people put their lives back together after they stepped up and did things that nobody else was willing to do. >> reporter: for those just now getting sick, he hopes the fund will ultimately send this message. >> just fight your cancer, ma'am, don't worry about money. don't worry about copayments or medications, we got your back. >> reporter: athena jones, cnn, washington. >> in the hours and days after the september 11th attacks, new york city mayor rudy giuliani emerged as a figure of comfort, not just for this city, but for the entire country. few will ever forget the images of them walking around ground zero soon after the tower fell. he's joining us this morning right now from ground zero. good morning, mr. mayor. >> good morning. >> eleven years later, for so many of us it is still an indelible memory. we saw the towers fall, we saw you walking around, we're seeing a picture of you right now with that mask, a famous image of
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you. as you stand down there today eleven years later, tell me about your feelings. >> well, they're very mixed, obviously. there's always just tremendous sense of loss. very good friends that i lost. the people that i saw die. the people that were reported to me dead immediately thereafter. father, judge, pete gansy. my goodness, so many. then there's also a feeling of resiliency about it. i mean new york city has come back. it's handled it. i asked them to be stronger than they were before, and they've become much stronger. >> we are eleven years after now, and some communities around new york have scaled back their commemorations. some towns in new jersey not doing commemorations today. and the ceremony down there at ground zero today is somewhat different, too. is it time to change how we commemorate this anniversary? >> sure. i mean, it's only natural that as time goes by, it might not be as long or it might not be as intense, i mean people have to
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move on with their lives and they do. but i think there always has to be a remembrance of what happened on this day forever. and certainly now, because it's not over yet. i mean this is not a memorial, really. pearl harbor is a memorial. this is an ongoing war against us by islamic extremist terrorists who want to come here this very day and do exactly the same thing they did eleven years ago, and what they did in 1993, and we've -- we're fortunate that we've stopped about 40 of these attacks. meaning the government stopped 40 of these attacks. most of it by really good work, and every once in awhile by just dumb luck like the attack in detroit at christmas day two years ago. >> mayor, one of the big changes down there this year is politicians will not be speaking. this is the first time that's happened. what do you think about that? >> oh, i don't care. i think it was perfectly appropriate for the mayor to make some changes in the program. anything he did, somebody's going to criticize it. i think the fact that we change
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the nature of the ceremony a little bit, make it a little shorter, make it a little more compact, i'm not really offended by that. i'm upset that the memorial isn't done yet. i was here last year, it was supposed to be done this year. now it's not going to get done, i don't know, for a couple of years. i don't quite understand that. >> there is a deal -- >> that has my more upset. >> they say there is a deal now -- >> i know there's a deal. but -- >> mayor -- >> that's what we were told last year, too. >> that's true. >> i hope it is -- i hope it gets done. somebody's got to feel a sense of urgency about this. i do. i was here. i saw it happen. i have a sense of urgency about it. i wish everybody else that's involved in this would have that same sense. >> there is another big story going on around the country. the teacher's strike in chicago, when you were mayor here you had a lot of experience dealing with the teachers union there. what do you make about how the mayor in chicago, rahm emanuel, how do you think he is handling the situation there right now? >> well, i mean, it seems to me he's bargaining for exactly the
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right things. he's asking to be able to evaluate, if there's a difference between good teachers and bad teachers. that seems almost common sense in 21st century america. why teachers should be worried about having their managers evaluate them. every worker in america has their managers evaluate them. every professional does. so i think he's -- what he's trying to do is to try to get that whole union turned around to worrying about the children. not worrying about themselves and how they're going to be evaluated. >> mr. mayor -- >> i hope he wins. i hope he wins. >> speaking of hope he wins, i know you've been a supporter of mitt romney. we are just out of the conventions right now and it does appear that his opponent, president obama, has received something of a bounce in the latest cnn poll he is now leading mitt romney by six points. that's roughly a four-point bounce. is there something wrong right now with the romney campaign? >> no. no, no. i mean, he got much more favorable coverage on the mainstream media than mitt
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romney did. i mean, basically flaunting coverage. so you get that kind of coverage, i'm not surprised he didn't get a nine, ten percent bounce. in some polls it's only 1% or 2%. i think mitt romney is in good shape. the fact is, most important thing that happened last week, not all the speeches, it was the fact that our unemployment rate is still over 8%. the number of people offer the rolls is catastrophic. 368,000 people. and this is the 43rd month that president obama has given us eight-plus percent unemployment. he wants a second chance, i don't think they're going to give him a second chance to screw up our economy as badly as he did the first time. >> all right, mayor rudy giuliani down at ground zero. thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> thank you very much. >> take a look at some other stories here on this tuesday, including missouri congressman todd akin. he is back on capitol hill. he sounds determined to remain there. this is the very first time he's been spotted in washington since his comments about quote/unquote
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legitimate rape prompted fellow republicans to call upon him to drop his bid for missouri's senate seat. akin says polling data suggests he's going to win the race against atlanta democrat claire mccaskill come november and he makes it very clear he is not backing down. >> i'm not getting out. >> you're saying september 25th will come and go and you'll still be in the senate race? >> that's what i'm saying. i've tried to say it about five times but i know you want to hear -- >> all right. >> thanks, guys. >> other news on the hill here. congressman jesse jackson jr. still has not returned to work. he has been released from the mayo clinic where he was treated for depression. his family says he is still under medical supervision and there is no timetable for his return to congress. an enormous ice floe has forced royal dutch shell to postpone preliminary drilling off the north slope of alaska, just one day after the controversial project got started. the chunk of drifting ice is more than 32 miles long, and 12
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miles wide. that is a big piece of ice. it has forced shell's drilling ship to move off the well site. it's expected to try and return and reanchor in the next few days. florida and m university is not responsible for drum major robert champion's hazing death. champion himself is to blame. that is the blunt message in the motion to dismiss a wrongful death suit filed by his family. the university says champion should have refused to participate in the hazing and reported it to police or the university. his parents say florida a&m is partly to blame for their son's death because it failed to stop a culture of hazing. angelina jolie visiting with syrian refugees at a camp in neighboring jordan today. the trip is drawing attention to the plight of more than 250,000 syrians who have fled their country during these past 18 months of bloodshed. more than 81,000 people have escaped to jordan. the country's foreign minister says they've reached their limit, in absorbing all these refugees. britain's prince william,
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and catherine middleton are in singapore this morning. the beginning of their nine-day tour of asia. today they visited the botanic gardens where an orchid is named after them. they also saw an orchid named after the late princess diana. of course william's mother. they are visiting four countries as part of a world tour celebrating queen elizabeth's diamond jubilee. >> you know you've made it when you have an orchid named after you. new goals in life. our special coverage of the september 11th terrorist attacks eleven years later will continue in a moment. just ahead, new developments on the museum at the site of the world trade center. >> and a deal reached overnight finally resolving the political, the emotional, the financial interests in the city's most hallowed site, coming up next. the mayor of new york city, michael bloomberg. joins us live. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac
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welcome back to "starting point" everyone. top stories to tell you about right now. evacuations are being ordered in wyoming as a wildfire continues to burn on casper mountain. the sheep herder hill fire has burned through 10,000 acres, and destroyed at least six structures so far. no word yet on the cause of that fire. and authorities say another fire broke out last night in the area of elk horn canyon. they believe the new blaze was caused by a lightning strike. a former auto executive has been found dead in his suburban detroit home after a 20-hour armed standoff with police.
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it is not clear whether the 50-year-old killed himself or was shot to death by police. before he died, he shot and killed 12-year veteran officer patrick o'rourke, a father of four. police say coley had just gone through a divorce, was about to be evicted from his home and was facing mounting legal and financial problems. dramatic dash cam video from oak creek, wisconsin, taken as officers responded to the deadly shootings at that sikh temple last month. lieutenant ryan murphy can be seen taking cover as gunman wade page comes into view and shoots him. murphy survived the attack. officer sam lenda who fired off a shot that hit page can be heard screaming at the suspect and his fellow officers. >> i got a man with a gun in the parking lot. get down!
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>> chilling. after being hit by officer lenda's bullet, page who killed six in the temple attack took his own life. and next on "starting point," new york city mayor michael bloomberg joins us live from ground zero, as we mark 11 years since the september 11th attacks. you're watching "starting point." i was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer, such as cervical, ovarian, or uterine cancer. feeling bloated for no reason. that's what i remember. seeing my doctor probably saved my life. warning signs are not the same for everyone. if you think something's wrong... see your doctor. ask about gynecologic cancer. and get the inside knowledge. olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!!
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world trade, live pictures here. ground zero where that building is nearing completion. a memorial ceremony will begin in just about an hour to commemorate the 2,997 lives lost. and for many of those, mourning the victims a chance to move forward was reached last night. a dispute that had stalled construction of that 9/11 museum at ground zero appears to be settled with a new deal finally in the works. we'll talk to new york city mayor michael bloomberg about that here. mayor bloomberg, good morning. first and foremost to you, good morning. >> good morning. >> before we -- >> good morning. >> before we talk about that dispute that's finally solve d here, i do just want to ask you, here we are 11 years later. of course, i remember i was in washington 11 years ago on -- it was a tuesday morning -- how do you feel walking around ground zero? >> well, it's -- if you're a family member, i don't think you've forgotten at all. and my job is to make sure that
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those who didn't lose a relative don't forget. our freedoms are fragile and if we forget, somebody will come again and try to take them away from us. this time, they weren't successful. who knows about the future. that's why we have the museum and the memorial, to make sure that people understand that what we take for granted, we shouldn't be taking for granted. and we have young men and women who are willing to fight overseas and work on the streets of our cities to keep us safe and, hopefully, they will be in the next generation will want to do the same thing. it's up to us to explain to them why. >> let me just say, we will never forget. you brought up 9/11 museum, mayor bloomberg. i want to ask you, finally -- in sort of the 11th hour last night, this resolution was reached. can you just talk to me a little bit about some of the intricacies of the deal and why it took so long? >> well, you know, if you look
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back, it probably didn't take that long. we've been working on this for, let's say, 11 years. and the senator inowye from hawaii said to me it took 40 years to build the museum and memorial for world war ii. he thought it was amazing we got it done in this length of time. there was never any question we were going to finish the museum. governors christie and cuomo were 100% committed to it but everybody has their responsibilities and they want to make sure that their interests are protected. and that takes time. we do want to make -- a real fight. there was always more information you needed and more discussion and come to an agreement and not everybody -- when you have two parties and everybody has to pay part, you
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discuss and you come to something that's fair. and i think that was done here, but it was never mean spirited nor was it ever in doubt. a and, yes, it got done just before the 11th anniversary. but the most important thing is that we build this safely. we haven't lost any lives on the site. the world trade center site since 9/11, with the exception of two firefighters who died very tragically. and we want to continue that record. and we want to build what's right so that generations from now it still stands and has the message that we want. and then we want to do it as econom economically as possible. not an unlimited amount of money for anything in our lives, as you know. >> sure. >> lastly, a date is important. but only because it's a date. >> let me ask you about the museum. i know there was a lot of talk be about whether or not one would have to pay a fee to enter this museum. do you know whether or not that will bes on the table, whether it will be a fee or a donation?
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>> of course. no, we certainly will have a fee. that's the only way to pay for what we have to do. we have to provide security. we have to provide cleaning services. we have to provide maintenance. we have to constantly reinvest in technology and exhibits. and the money has to come from someplace. hopefully, we'll get the same kind of monies and support from the federal government that other memorials, national memorials around the country do. we hopefully will be able to continue to raise money from generous corporations and private donors, individuals who believe, but we'll also have to charge money to go into the museum. but in our lives we all understand somebody has to pay and it's not just going to be the other person. we all share in this together. >> i would like to turn the corner and ask you one question. you've had your own battle with
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the teachers union over teachers' evaluations i want to read something you said in june. quote, the union is not there to help our students. don't ever think that. the union is there for its members, to protect them. when they're sex offenders, they protect them. when they're criminals, they protect them. they do anything to protect them. they don't focus on the students. they just use the students as a ploy. some could say that is quite harsh. what do you make of what chicago mayor rahm emanual is doing and the strike in chicago? >> i'm not familiar with what's going on there, other than what i read in the papers. mayor emanual is trying hard to do what's right for the students. that's his responsibility. the union's responsibility is to protect their members, to get the best working conditions, the most money. and the fewest hours. and that's fine. nothing wrong with that whatsoever. so they'll continue to do that here in the city.
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we work with the union and we are committed to making sure that our children get an education that they are going to need. our school system should not be run by the people that work there. our school system should be run for the students. >> mayor michael bloomberg, live for us from ground zero. sir, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. still ahead this morning here on "starting point," real life drama at the wwe, real-life legend suffers a heart attack and collapses ring side during a live broadcast. striking teachers in chicago in a nasty fight with mayor rahm emanual, had hundreds of thousands of children are sitting home again this morning. we are live on the picket lines. youy . if there was a pill
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♪ [ male announcer ] kohler's tresham collection. life. with a twist. ♪ good morning. welcome to "starting point." i'm brook baldwin. >> i'm john berman. soledad o'brien is off today. this morning, a victory for some of the heroes who paid a terrible price to serve their country. >> also, here we go, day two, the teachers' strike reverberating across the country. thousands of chicago public school teachers in bitter dispute with the mayor there. labor unions coming under siege is a resolution possibly in sight? and a big apology. why actor tony danza would like to apologize to every teacher,
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every teacher he ever had. the actor from "who's the boss" and "taxi" is here with us live. >> homeland security, peter king, fran townsend and randi weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. >> it is tuesday, september 11th, and "starting point" begins right now. we are joined by our panel of fabulous friends, rowland martin. hello. >> what up? >> lovely week with anna -- >> we spent two lovely weeks. >> it went very fast. ana navaro is here. >> and hopefully who can help me out of this trouble i just got in with ana right here. >> i remember all of it, berman. i've got your back. nice to be with you here on this
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day, on this september 11th, 11 years, can we believe? we're going to talk about that in a little bit. first, let's talk about chicago. it is day two of this massive teacher teachers' strike that has people all over the country questioning how our school systems work. 30,000 teachers here in chicago are on strike. affecting some 350,000 students not in school and right now no sign of a deal. ♪ we are the union the mighty mighty union ♪ ♪ we are the future >> elementary school in chicago, depending on who you listen to this morning, maybe some movement toward the deal overnight. but obviously still some sticky points. >> reporter: absolutely, john. some of the teachers, you can see, next to me that are protesting outside the school. they say that they are hopeful and optimistic that a deal can be be reached today. both sides say that a deal is within reach. but these teachers saying they want to make sure that the deal is fair for not only them but their students. they say they are out on strike
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for a quality education for their students. two issues that remain on the table, two main issues are how these teachers are evaluated. the teachers' union is very upset with the plan to tie those evaluations closer to student test scores. they say that's unfair to teachers in low-income, lower-performing communities. also on the table is who has the authority to decide which teachers are hired after teachers are laid off. rahm emanual, mayor of chicago, wants the principals of individual schools to have that authority. the teachers union wants more of that authority, to stay with it. those are the two issues on the table. unfortunately, they say those issues weren't being talked about when they broke off talks last night. both sides are hopeful that a deal can be reached. >> casey wian by the picket line this morning in chicago. there's a lot of policy to talk about but also a lot of dicey
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politics. randi weingarten, the president of the american teachers federation. this morning america remembers the 10,977 lives lost on 9/11. at ground zero this morning, family members of victims will participate in the traditional reading of the names. that ceremony begins just about 34 minutes. it will be marked by six moments of silence. two at the exact times the planes hit the twin towers and two at the times each tower fell and then two to mark the exact moments of the attacks of flight 93 and the pentagon. >> the president and first lady will observe a moment of silence before arriving at the pentagon at 9:20 for a wreath laying
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ceremony and vice president biden will speak at the memorial in shanksville, pennsylvania, at 10:00 am eastern. we'll talk about how far we've come in the fight against terror with former homeland security adviser fran townsend and peter king, chairman of the homeland security committee. also new this morning over this dispute that had been stalled, the construction of that museum at 9/11, ground zero. we were just talking to mayor michael bloomberg about this. last night the deal was reached between new york governor andrew cuomo, new york mayor michael bloomberg and new jersey governor chris christie. so the construction of the museum, which was supposed to open back in 2009, is expected to resume. still no date as of yet when it will open. we have news on the war on terror overnight. abu said al shihri was killed by
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a u.s. zone strike in a car in which he and other militants were traveling. a wrestling legend is in the hospital after wwe's monday night brawl. jerry "the king" lawler collapsed during last night's broadcast. co-host broke the news to fans with an empty chair right next to him. >> i want to preface this by saying this is not part of tonight's entertainment. this is a real-life situation. my broadcast colleague jerry "the king" lawler collapsed while on commentary, midmatch. he fell out of his chair to the floor below. doctors were here immediately. emergency personnel stretchered him out of the area to the back where he received cpr. >> a statement on wwe's website says he suffered a heart attack. a tulane university football player who fractured his spine
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in a head-on collision with a teammate is alert and responsive after a three-hour operation. it is still not clear if he will be permanently paralyzed. he is a new orleans native planning to attend medical scho school after graduation. five-set match to win the u.s. open, murray's win was a victory for his country as well. first time in 76 years a british player has won a grand slam title, the last brit to do so in 1976. >> every 75 years or so, we like to throw a bone to the brits. here you go. here you go. >> all about britain here,
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olympics, a naked prince. >> he's back in afghanistan. to chicago we go. strike day number two here, public schools closed once again in chicago meaning 350,000 students will not attend class again. >> joining us now is the american federation of teachers randi weingarten. i just want to check in with you right now. anything happen in the last hour since we talked to you? >> going back to the table at 9:30 this morning. there is, as i'm sure you saw from yesterday, there is a seriousness at the table as there was this weekend. no one wants a strike. and the teachers are on strike because they are trying to get the tools they need to help educate kids and they are trying to get the resources that kids need. now, i know that the strike is -- you know, people talk about money all the time.
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if you actually listen to the teachers and listen to parents in chicago, they want to make sure books get delivered on time. they want to make sure that class is for actual instruction. they want to make sure that they have the tools to help kids. >> i do want to talk about politics. this is a presidential campaign season and politics have already been injected into this debate. your organization endorsed president obama, you were down in charlotte for the democratic national convention. yesterday at the white house, president obama spokesman jay carney wouldn't answer any questions about the strike other than saying that the president is thinking about it. he did not come down and say that the president supported the strike or the teachers union there. do you feel that the president abandoned you? >> he said, be as you should, that this is a local dispute. when can dade romney tried to use it opportunistically against the president, the president basically said it's a local dispute. the president doesn't get involved in local disputes around the country. >> if i may, last hour you said
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this is absolutely a national issue, schools across the country should be paying attention. why shouldn't the president take sides? >> the issues at the table are about how we make sure that education is delivered in chicago. the issues at the table are about how those are, on some levels, national issues because of the as tausterity you've see throughout the nation, layoffs you've seen throughout the nation. this is actually going to be solved at the bargaining table between the mayor and the teachers union. >> do you think it would help if he got involved and showed some leadership? he is the president but he is also from chicago. he was a senator. his kids used to go to school in chicago. his secretary of education used to be the chicago chancellor. almost his entire inner team,
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inner circle is from chicago. they've got a particular sensitivity. my question to you is, would it help if somehow he got involved, showed some leadership, tried to bring the parts together? god knows he knows rahm emanual, not an easy person to negotiate with, but barack obama -- >> you can say that again. >> the bottom line is that this needs to be solved in chicago. it has revertebrae rations nationally. we're all talking about it. but it needs to be solved in chicago and no one wants to be on strike. the reason that the teachers are out there is because they don't have what they need to help kids. >> my mom was a school teacher. she went on strike once. i hear the same frustration as what my mom used to talk about all the time. >> my mom was a teacher, too. >> they want to be in school with kids. they just -- you know, we were talking last hour about the evaluation system. they want to make sure they're evaluated fairly. just like teachers across the
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country. >> they want to make sure that -- >> you keep using the word tool. let's tabe specific what we're talking about. being laid off, going into a pool, because they're trying to protect jobs. how do you doo deal with that in terms of principals choosing their own teams as opposed to the current method? so i wonder -- i'm saying this specific issue, the teachers union, are you opposed to principals choosing their own teams, teachers in their schools? >> we are for ensuring that the teachers who are gat teachers actually stay on the job. what's happened in chicago, like across the country, is half of the teachers that come into schooling leave within the first three to five years because they don't have the support that they need. and what's happened in terms of chicago, as around the country is that sometimes it is about
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who you know, not what you know, that actually keeps your job. >> randi, spending six years working in shob, i totally understand. one of the problems is that in this debate, teachers aren't doing what they should be doing, keep in mind the previous mayor, mayor daily, took control of the schools. you had school closures. >> exactly right. >> one of the concerns was that even if they were doing better, they were shutting down and all of a sudden those teachers would be displaced and moved out and you had a lot of disreputation there as well. education in chicago goes beyond just what teachers are doing. >> i want to make the point that roland just made about communities. that's what you're seeing in places like new york and in chicago. when schools close in communities, be it destabilizes communities. that's part of the reason why communities, naacp, that's part of the reason all of us are saying, let's fix schools, like we did, frankly, in the chancellor's district in new york city where we actually did
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the various different things that they're calling for in chicago and turned around every elementary school that was failing within two years. >> isn't what -- this an extended policy of where -- >> we've gotten collective bargaining agreements where we've been able to actually figure out what are the tools and conditions we need to actually implement these new, higher standards? what are the tools we need to actually have a real, fair, reliable evaluation system. what's happened here is that between the budget cuts, between the increase in poverty, between not listening to the teachers, you have utter frustration. >> randi weingarten, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> talk to you soon, as hopefully this will get resolved very soon. al qaeda's number two taken out. our next guest said this is a very big deal.
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look, after alanwar alw achlt waki being taken out, this is a big blow to their leadership. he was put into their rehabilitation program. like many rehabilitation programs, including in this country, he then escaped. he goes -- with with him and his family escaped into yemen. we heard many senior government officials, including the intelligence community say the arabian peninsula is the most active group in targeting american interests, not only the undeear bomber that one christmas years ago, but the computer cartridge. this is a very active group, taking out a senior member of their leadership is very significant. >> i want to get to some reporting on our end.
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nic robertson actually sat down and had an interview with the brother. he is proposing something bizarre. basically to broker a peace plan between the west and these radical islamists. i just want to play this and want a reaction to your plan. take a look. >> ten years that could be extended. the west and its allies to stop intervening in the muslim nations and retrieve its armys. as a corrective measure, the u.s. should allow them to establish sharia law, at least in the nations where it has become accepted. americans need to stop intervening in the teaching of islam, directly or indirectly, to stop the war in islam in the name of terrorism. >> you hear part of what he is proposing, stop attacking or provoking western interests. you mentioned this
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rehabilitation program. clearly it's flawed because he escaped. what do you make of that? >> we have to understand it's complete garbage. >> garbage? >> honestly, think about it. osama bin laden, when he was ali alive, said if we removed troops from the pen -- we haven't had a attack in the last 11 years, thank god. >> listening you to describe that, turning him over to that government, are they doing enough in this battle? because they're our ally. when you talk about where most of these terrorists are coming from, you're dealing with saudi arabia, right in that central location. >> i'm not sure that that's right, roland, to be honest with you. very few americans appreciate
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after 2003, when there was an attack on one of the housing compounds there, saudis provide us with more direct intelligence, or certainly as much or at times more than our british allies. that's not a knock on the br british. that's to tell you the extent of the sharing on critical targeting information. and, by the way, the computer cartridge attack, we didn't know about it. we couldn't have found it. we got very specific intelligence the number on the bill of laiding to find the package came from the saudi intelligence service. they're pretty good allies. >> any thoughts on the september 11th anniversary, where we are on the war on terror? >> clear skies, crisp, cool air. very reminiscent. that's right. i must tell you, it's a morning where rather than focus on the tragedy, it's a good time for us to remember those who fight in uniform for our safety. those who are not in uniform, the intelligence analysts and collectors, frankly, who are the ones who are responsible and enable the bin laden operation.
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lots of people we ought to be very thankful for today that has tha have kept us safe over the last 11 years. >> i'm glad you brought that up, fran townsend. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. still ahead here on "starting point," lessons from the bounce. will it turn into a bump? [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier,
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point." this morning's tough call is all about the bounce. the president gained four points in the latest cnn/orc poll, now has a six-point lead over mitt romney. last week, they were tied at 48%. but it is not all good news for president obama. the cnn poll showed that independent voters, those key swing voters, they support mitt romney by a rather large margin. so, this bounce, is it real and will it stick? have at it. >> there's been a series of polls guessing obama's up. he is stronger in the swing states than he is nationally. because in those case, the economy is doing better than it is nationally, like in ohio. the independent voters numbers are complicated. a lot of those people are people that left the republican party over the last -- in the bush years, who were disillusioned with republicans but who are basically conservatives, who will end up on the right no matter what. >> the problem with that is what was it before?
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we can say it's ten points now. was it lower before? was it higher before? >> no, no. you don't round up. >> i'm not rounding up anywhere. the bottom line is, how are you performing in the critical states? overall is irrelevant. how do you get to 2-7-0? that's the issue that both camps are looking at. >> you are our resident republican here. >> first of all, do not go on the assumption that i believe these two men. i like these two men but i'm not sure i believe these two men. >> are you nervous? >> no, but i don't think it's time to press the panic button. it is time to get to work. panic won't win elections. work and focus will. and i do think that, you know, what this shows is that conventions matter. there is no doubt in my mind, having survived -- barely survived the two of them that the democratic convention was much better than the republican
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convention. i'm not sure we should call this the obama bounce or clinton bounce, but it is a bounce nonetheless. maybe i'll just finish by saying obama ispeaking too early. >> spoke in 2008 and also in 2010, not that that's real new. >> but obama cannot -- >> guess what, republicans wish they had a former president who could come to their convention and do that. bush, george w. bush, way too toxic. they need this convention. their own party were down. part of this bounce is also democrats now being revived because they feel much better after the convention. i talked to many elected officials who say they were very afraid before the convention started. >> bill clinton speech is being called a sugar high. >> to your point our poll does show that enthusiasm did increase among the democratic
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>> i'm not getting out. i made that clear. >> september 25th will come and go and you'll still be in the senate race? >> that's what i'm saying. i tried to say it about five times. i know you want to hear it. thanks, guys. >> meanwhile, congressman jesse jackson jr. still has not returned to work, is not headed back to the hill. he has been released from the mayo clinic where he was treated for depression. the family says he is still under supervision and there is no timetable for his return to congress. corruption charges after being caught up in the federal sting operation. mayor mack was arrested monday. the men allegedly accepted approximately $119,000 in bribes as part of a scheme to sell city-owned land to investors for less than the assessed value. forcing royal dutch shell to postpone drilling one day after
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>> he learned a couple of valuable lessons and wrote a book called "i would like to apolo apologize to every teacher i've ever had." good morning. >> good morning, thank you. >> before we get into this book and your teaching. let's talk about chicago. >> talk about timing. >> here you are this morning. >> holy mackerel. >> what do you make of what's happening? 30,000 teachers, 350,000 students. what do you think? >> my heart goes out to the kids and the families that are disrupted because they have to find a place, something to do with them when they're not in school. i also think -- i wonder, and i can't help myself, but i wonder how bad it must have been in this climate, this environment where unions and teachers are pretty much demonized to actually go out on strike, to make that call. >> first time in 25 years. >> and certainly, like i said,
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not an environment where it would be anything but a public relations disaster. so, i don't know. it must be pretty -- i think when you -- if you're a teacher now, i think what's happened is that there's been so much budget cutting, so much changing of the way it's been. there's a reaction. people are scared, just like anybody else. teachers are people, too. i hate to hit you with a cliche. >> you side with the teachers on this? >> it's not that i side with anybody i would love to see the kids back in school. i would love for us first to be really committed to public education again, john. i'm not sure we are. you know, there are bad teachers, absolutely. just like there's bad actors. >> don't point to yourself. >> but what i'm saying is when i -- randiweingarten made the point. i saw more discouraged teachers. it's like just as you're getting
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good you say, i can't do it. >> let me jump in and explain why you're talking about this with you a little more. you spent a year in public schools in philadelphia as a teacher. you initially had cameras following you. they left. you followed on in the year. >> 181 days, but who's counting? but when you see the need and the commitment people are making. there's a guy in the book saying he's coming back his 37th year. i said why are you coming back? he said maybe this year i'll get it right. so there's a commitment, a calling. you have to remember, you have this responsibility, this amazing responsibility that ey're only going to get one tenth grade english class. >> you woke up one morning and you said -- >> i wanted to be a teacher when i did it. my friends became teachers and i
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became a fighter. next thing i know, i was on tv and here i am. it's been great. i'm not complaining. don't get me wrong. talk about lucky. it's always been something in my mind. i'm worried about the situation. kt drop out this many kids and sustain a great country. where are you going to get the workers? these are our kid. >> isn't accountability part of the problem be? you say there are bad teachers. there are bad principals and administrators and school boards. if you want to be honest, also some bad parents. three sisters and one brother and i got some horror stories. talk about education, how much of the ownness is put on the teachers as opposed to the other folks? >> you know who there's no ownness on? there's no ownness on the kid. let me explain something. you get into the philadelphia district, i was in orientation with 800 teaches. you could have taken over the world with them. how do they get discouraged?
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impossible. i'll tell you how they get discouraged. as a teacher, this is the mantra. how are you going to engage the kids? you got a way to engage the kids? the kids know this. they're like, hey, i'm here. engage me. >> you cried a little bit, tony danza. >> they make you cry. >> first time i cried i think the teachers were like, now he knows. i felt like my mother was there. finally. you know? it's an emotional grind. i'm not, you know -- this issue in chicago is a whole other thing. as far as my book is concerned i tried to tell the story of, you know, what it's really like in a school of 3,500 kids, all -- every kind of kid you could imagine. >> walking through metal detectors. >> special education and everything in between. >> i would like to apologize to
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and welcome back to "starting point." live pictures here at fwround zero. the reading of the names. can you believe 11 years now? 11 years since that tuesday, that day as well, the terror attacks in new york, washington and shanksville, pennsylvania. many of the people who worked amid the rubble at ground zero became very sick, developing cancer and the government would not cover treatments for them until now. >> 58 forms of cancer now will be covered under the act for people exposed to tact toxins at ground zero. congressman peter king co-authored that law. 11 years, every time we participate in the moment of silence, every time we hear the reading of names, it seems so
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real, so current, so now. yet 11 years, this is such a long time. >> 11 years is a long time. anyone who was alive on september 11th, anyone who knew anyone who was killed on september 11th, it's a day that will never go away. yet today being down here such a sense of vibrancy, such a sense of life. being down here with with president bush just three days later, it was hard to imagine we would ever come back the way we have. spirit of america, the spirit of new yorkers here. enjoy the life that we have today but never, ever forget the horror of september 11th. and we have to do all we can to make sure it never, ever happens again. >> this is brook baldwin here. nice to see you. >> hi, brook. how are you? >> i want to talk about the act, which you co-authored. you are applauding now finally this cancer coverage. my question to you, why did it take so long for so many people to be covered?
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>> this whole situation is inexcusable. it shouldn't have taken five years to pass this zadroga bill in the first place. secondly, once it was passed, it was so obvious these forms of cancer came from what happened here at ground zero. we have young men and women in their 30s and 40s, in the peak of their life, coming down with these rare forms of blood cancers, rare diseases and a rare disease that maybe one out of 100,000 people get and three people working together would get it, working together at ground zero. this was wrong. this was really where, i think, the government and the congress did not do the job they were supposed to do for the heroes of 9/11. now you have a struggle ahead of it. these 15 new forms of cancer are covered, the amount of the money in the if you know has not been increase increased. we have to find ways to increase that fund. we have a moral obligation to stand by those who put their lives on the line, not just on 9/11, but in the days and weeks and months following 9/11.
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>> $2.77 billion was set aside in the bill for lost wages and damages. none of that now has been dispersed. what's the hold up there? >> actually, be the whole process is ongoing. i feel that it was passed in 2010. and it is actually going according to schedule as far as the money being spent. it will be spent. and speaking of those who are going to be treated, that is moving along. the next crisis is going to come with there not being enough money in the fund. you're right, it was taken out by people in my party. i said then and i'm saying now it was wrong. we have an absolute moral obligation. this is the same as people who have been wounded in battle. we have an obligation to them.
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i'm going to do all i can to make sure we get that money in over the next several years. >> congressman king, you now know about this book, this navy s.e.a.l. that wrote this book, the tell-all about the day that the osama bin laden raid went down. he was on "60 minutes." does that upset you? >> what they did was so monumental. to disclose anything about that incident is wrong. it tells the enemy what our tactic be and procedures are. no amatter what the navy s.e.a.l. says, that he didn't put anything sensitive in there. there has to be sensitive material there. it started with the white house last year. they should have never said anything other than osama bin laden was killed by u.s. forces. leave it at that. nobody had to know there were navy s.e.a.l.s, two helicopters, how many men were in the operation. >> congressman king, thank you.
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