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hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. income tax rates on the wealthy. republicans have preferred to focus on eliminating tax credits and others. president obama is going to attend the east asia summit, he will stop? switching gears. you may have heard that in boxing, super star, many pacquiao is headed back in the
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ring. he is a fighter and a congressman in his homeland is fighting juan manual marquez. cnn will present the popular hbo series, 24/7 to show you the story behind the rivalry. here it is. 24-7. >> well to be a great rivalry. it has to be competitive. obviously. because if it's not competitive. it's not really a rivalry. it has to be world class fighters. fighting each other. like ali/frazier, that was a world class rivalry. ♪
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>> well to be a great rivalry. it has to be competitive. obviously. because if it's not competitive. it's not really a rivalry. it has to be world class fighters. fighting each other. like ali/frazier, that was a world class rivalry. ♪ >> this has to have been one of the most bruising heavy weight championships of all time. >> we had a good rivalry because they were evenly matched and had good hearts, with the late mickey ward, and arturo gotti, that was a great rivalry. this is one of the prime rivalries, many pacquiao, against juan manual marquez, one of the great prime rivalries in the whole history of the port.
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there's an expectation in boxing that even of the most storied, and most ferocious and competitive of conflicts can be settled over the course of a trilogy, but for pacquiao, 36 rounds have not been enough. regardless of what the score cards have produced. >> i'm calling it another draw. >> to the winner, many pacquiao. >> regardless of how each side felt about the outcomes. >> of course, i believed i won the fight. the story of three bouts.
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that have given way to a fourth. >> the tale of two fighters still searching to settle a rivalry steeped in history, controversy, and above all inconclusiveness. this is 24/7 pacquiao-marquez 4. ♪ ♪ >> it was a sunny morning in beverly hills in mid september when two of boxing's best fighters arrived. many pacquiao arrived the night before, and marquez was fresh off of a plane from mexico city.
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>> i like to welcome everyone to the official press conference for pacquiao/marquez 4. >> people say, when again, pacquiao, and i said because i want to prove who was better. and i want the referee to raise my hand. >> i want to erase the doubt of the fans. >> their previous three doubts have been a draw and two disputed decisions in pacquiao's favor, an uncertainty that has led them to seek each other out for a fourth bout. >> we are in the press conference at the beverly hills hotel and i'm sit besides many and he takes his thumb nail and he scratches into the table cloth, we need to win by knockout. and i said yes, we do. that is the best news i have
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seen yet, usually it's gobbled, aside. i'm not going to predict anything, who is going to give him another fight if it's another close call. i don't think that we win unless we knock him out. >> their drive to fight has been driven by doubt of others. it all began a decade ago in the mgm in las vegas, he was a 25 years old, a rising ring star from the pacific rim. squaring off against marquez, who at 31 had separated himself from a pack of mexican contenders. the feather weight bout figured to be an entertaining matchup, for those ringside, the anticipation was tinged with intrigue as much as anything else. >> we were intrigued with pacquiao, he was a great fighter and explosive.
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and how would he cope with an unusual fighter from mexico in that marquez was more of a boxer than a banger. >> from the outset, the give and take had an aggressive feel. >> marquez comes out in a more offensive stance than he usually does. >> but marquez' trainer was not pleased with his fighter's early strategy. >> he fires the straight left hand and there's the punching. >> i thought the fight was over.
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>> he is standing in one position. >> this is why we use the word sensation. >> the fight is almost over. i said, we are going to finish this fight in one round. >> he is going straight back, knock down of the first round. he caught marquez going down and i'm not sure juan manual will be able to get up. >> i thought i got him in the first round. but i was surprised of his
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toughness. >> cortez is letting the fight continue. >> for the referee, it should not be a numbers game unless he is counting to ten. three knock downs is usually when a referee will step in and stop the mayhem. but it's also knowing who the fighters are. looking into the fight's eyes and cortez did a major league job of understanding the situation. [ bell ringing ] >> what happened in the second round, redefined a fighter. i think marquez intuitively absorbed the reality that he had to make this stand. it would define him forever. >> marquez is feeling his way back into the fight. >> marquez fighting more of the kind of fight now we anticipated at the start. >> and i remember the rest of the night was being very frustrated because many is
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looking for the big last hand all night because he had success with it in the first round and marquez knew exactly how take that away from us and started to land his straight right hand. >> with each round that passed marquez seemed to be getting stronger and stronger. climbing closer and closer back into the fight. >> a right hand from pacquiao, and it could be the comeback of a lifetime for juan manual marquez. >> by the end of the fight, a round too close to call. >> it's your round, son, we need this round badly. all right? >> both fighters believe they can win this fight if they win this round. >> two real fighters, from their guts. both can box, both can punch,
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judges did not score the first round 10-6, 1 mistakenly scored it 10-7, not giving him the point for the third knock down and that shove should have -- that should have given him the fight. >> i disputed it, because he would have won the fight if it was scored the way it was supposed to be scored. they said it's like the umpire missing a call at home plate. and i said, no you, have to change this. but, you know, i was not going to argue too hard though, because it was a great fight and i think it was great for the sport of boxing. >> and adding to the mystique is that it all almost did not happen. >> it's true, if joe cortez had called the fight off after the third knockdown, nobody would
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have criticized him. and the idea that we would have these subsequent fights between these two great fighters would be far-fetched and i think probably we would not have had a pacquiao marquez 2 and 3 and now 4. but, life is funny. and so many things that happened in sports could go either way at a given time. ♪ ñç@rño ordinary rubs don't always work on my arthritis.
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manny is going to talk about god and i'm going talk about winning the fight and so, you know, we've seen it before, we need a new twist, i'm not sure what we will do yet. >> it's really a pleasure to be here in my home city, new york, for this press conference. >> december 8th will be the fourth time the super star fighters meet and the fourth time that the two greatest trainers meet up in the corners. >> there's two rivalries because we -- it's competitive. i mean, i want to beat him badly and he wants to beat me badly, i'm sure. so it's actually two rivalries going on right now.
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>> a rivalry that intensified with each meeting. it took four years to put a rematch together, but finally pacquiao/marquez 2 was send for mandalay bay. >> pacquiao has developed his right hand since the years of the first fight. >> it was marquez that dictated the early flow. >> body shot by marquez. buckled pacquiao. >> by the third round though, pacquiao was finding his range. and a familiar brand of action was intensifying.
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>> this is a late-round rally for pacquiao. >> this is good back and forth here. >> down goes marquez on a straight left hand. perfect shot by pacquiao. >> i thought it's over but he is just got lucky. >> they can go like this all night. >> marquez almost went down the second time and almost went to the wrong corner as well. >> as in the first fight, marquez recovered and from there the bout tightened with nearly every round evenly matched and almost two close to call. >> pacquiao, trying to search and destroy, and marquez trying to shock him with counter-punching aggression. >> one example was round six that 2 of the 3 judges scored for pacquiao.
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>> he wants you to get busy and that is what many needs to do. throw punches in bunches. >> a scientific round. that round was what boxing is all about. the counter-punches, the aggressive guy, both of them landing good shots. but i think we lost that round. yeah. so, i'm an honest person. i mean. >> many, you are letting this get away from you, you are standing right there and letting him get off his combination. >> pacquiao had a new problem. he had a cut over the eye. >> he cut him with that punch over his eye. >> a round later, the filipino returned the favor.
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like the first bout, this one would go the distance and the final bell would approach with both fighters leaving absolutely nothing behind. >> one more right hand from marquez, and one more combination from pacquiao. they trade punches to the end. >> i'm calling it another draw. >> both fighters deserved to win, neither deserved to lose. that's a draw for me. >> on this night however, a draw was not in the cards. >> we go to the scorecards, 115-112 marquez, and one 115-112 pacquiao. and to the winner of a split decision, and now winner from
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the philippines, manny pacquiao. >> yeah, yeah you know, i was happy, i thought manny won the fight and the knockdown was the difference. they tried a little bit. i would not is have cried if we would lost though, it was -- it was that close. i mean, but again, it was another good fight for boxing, i thought. and it was two great technicians doing what they do best. ♪
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with fans eager to glimpse the two legends up close. >> viva mexico, viva mexico! viva juan manual marquez. viva marquez! and viva congressman manny pacquiao. >> the reception for pacquiao, of course, was no surprise. given how frustrating the bouts have been for mexican fans. a third of the bouts took another four years to come to be. and when it did last november, it would be held again at the mgm grand. over the course of the eight years since the first bout, the two sides have become well acquainted.
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perhaps too acquainted in fact for freddie roach. >> i did have something happen to me that never happened to me before in boxing. the opposing trainer came over to my dressing room and gave me seven items that he wanted manny pacquiao to autograph for him. >> okay, he is going to ask him to sign the gloves. >> and i said you have to be kidding me, in my mind, i'm like is this part of his game plan, >> gracias. >> if beristain was resorting to gamesmanship, it's because his fighter was a 9-1 underdog. pound for pound, pacquiao was a super star, defeating a large string of fighters.
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those surrounding pacquiao knew better than to look past the mexican. well aware that their fighter was not at his best. following a training camp full of personal distractions. >> manny was clearly not focused. had marital problems. he was not getting enough rest. i knew he would not see -- knew we would not see a vintage pacquiao in that fight and we certainly didn't. >> marquez getting ready to take a couple more risks or so it would appear. >> that pattern made no drama in the ring. >> marquez missing and not firing back. >> eventually though, caution yielded to a familiar tempo. >> now we are seeing kind of action we saw in the first two fights. i hit you and you come and try
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to hit me back. >> as the fight continued however, things began to turn, at least in the eyes of one of the bouts judges. robert hoyle. >> the clear more distinct punches were coming from marquez. >> hard right by marquez, he is loosening up and gathering confidence. >> he found his niche, he found a way to get through aggression that pacquiao was putting on him to allow him to be effective. >> hoyle would score 4 of the last 6 rounds with marquez on par with many observers. but in a dose of the controversy that has come to mark the rivalry. the other two judges saw it the opposite way. awarding 4 of the final 6 rounds to pacquiao. >> okay. >> the 12th round of both prior
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fights were action packed. but on this night, in a questionable interpretation of beristain's instructions, marquez pulled back. >> marquez is conservative in the last round of a fight. he believes what beristain told him. >> this was a tremendous tactical error, i think by juan manual marquez. >> the final round would indeed go to pacquiao on 2 of the 3 judges cards, including robert hoyle's.
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>> 114-114, even. >> when we read my score, i was nervous and after i sat back and relaxed i really feel like i called the fight exactly how it was. it was a even fight. >> this judge scores it 115-113. and 116-112 to the winner by majority decision, and still wbo welter weight champion of the world manny pacquiao! >> once again, the scorecards were a huge part of the story of a pacquiao/marquez bout, particularly the cards of the two judges who scored it for pacquiao.
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>> my performance is not really the best that i want. but when i heard that, i believed i won the right. >> i thought we won the third fight, but i thought it was the closest and to be quite honest with you, i wanted to close the book on this. i said i never want to see them fight again. so, and then here we are. ♪ [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar.
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they have some deep reservoir of will to succeed, to perform, to rise to the highest level and to beat the guy in front of them. these two fighters have proven that that is who they are. >> pacquiao was departing quick to the philippines where there was business to tend to in his other job as congressman, before returning to los angeles for training camp closer to the bout. marquez had a much shorter trip home. and as usual, his plans called for him to remain in mexico city for his fight preparation. close to the family and the public that reveres him as a national icon. three bouts, 36 rounds, 108 minutes of fighting left these two men very much still in dispute. and in in accord in one matter,
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hello again, jim lampley, pacquiao's rise to fighting king of the pacific rim is the stuff of legend. and he is one. now, looking ahead to his fourth fight, with his most difficult rival on december 8th, we present manny pacquiao's greatest hits. he faced marquez, in the first round, the pac man with furious intent, dropped marquez three times.
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>> juan manual marquez has not seen anything like that. who has? >> but marquez continued in the fight. >> hard right hand stuns pacquiao. pacquiao once between wan once again wants to fight fire with fire. >> this was called the fight of the year by many, both warriors battling through assaults and attacks. both have the hearts of champions. the long night would end with a disappointing and controversial draw. they faced off again in the highly anticipated rubber match. >> pacquiao picked up right where he left off. dominating the over-matched morales. >> down goes morales on a right hand. and the brave heart of morales holds up but his legs go again. third knock down of the fight by pacquiao.
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>> he doesn't want to get up. >> morales shook his head as if to say, i want no more. >> pacquiao finally got together with juan manual marquez for a rematch. four years in the making. >> hard right hand by marquez. uppercut by marquez, huge left hook, buckled pacquiao and again the two legendary fighters brawled to the finish. >> what guts both fighters have shown tonight. one more right hand for marquez. one more combination for pacquiao. >> manny pacquiao escaped with a split decision victory. december, 2008, pacquiao and oscar de la hoya, he takes a right hook from pacquiao and he
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lands a brilliant upper cut up the middle. >> you may describe the first couple of rounds as shock and awe. >> pacquiao continued peppering him to the head and body. >> he is getting hit with virtually every shot that pacquiao throws. >> this is getting embarrassed. >> after eight rounds they have seen enough. >> manny pacquiao as beaten oscar. >> may, 2009. the red hot pacquiao met rickie the hitman hatton. >> in round two, pacquiao closed the show.
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>> look at the accuracy of manny pacquiao. landing with both right and left hands. >> boom, oh, my gosh, what a straight left hand. that is that, what an amazing knockout shot that is the most spectacular one-punch shot of his incredible career. >> november 2009, pacquiao moved up in weight, this time taking on miguel cotto, they went at each other with toughness and the early rounds were legend. >> pacquiao starts to open up. good left hook by miguel cotto, crowd comes out of its seat for that one. upper cut snaps pacquiao's head back. he hits cotto with a hard right hand, and another, and another. manny landed a right hook in there and follows up by knocking cotto down, first knock down of the night.
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cotto goes down again! >> and cotto was not hurt by that knock down, where he was not hurt by the first one. >> hard right hook by pacquiao. landing more or less as will now. cotto backs to the corner, he is in big trouble now. the fight could end in a matter of seconds. he does his duty. >> we thought manny pacquiao was great. he is better than we thought. >> november 2010, pacquiao stepped into the ring with margarito, where margarito had a 17-pound weight advantage. >> he backs him off again. >> margarito is saying that manny is not hurting him but his face is telling a different story. >> this is a display of skill and power and everything, unbelievable. >> he is rearranging margaritos face and it may never look the same again.
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>> pacquiao cruised to an easy victory. four years after their rematch, pacquiao and marquez squared off for a third time. as with the first two meetings the action began quickly. >> hard right hand by marquez, pacquiao was knocked back on his heels. and there's a hard left by pacquiao and a good right hook and another left. hard right hand by marquez, followed by another. pacquiao with a right hook. marquez with a left hook. >> while pacquiao threw more punches of course the 38-year-old marquez once again proved a tough puzzle to solve. >> good left hand by pacquiao, tries to come back and capitalize, marquez wants to answer right away. big left hand from pacquiao. and that might have won him the round. what a tremendous round the crowd on their feet, we have a fight in vegas. >> heading 12th final round, victory was up on the score cards.
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>> early in his career, juan manual marquez fought very much the way he performed in his first paying job as a government book keeper. precise. technical, careful, as his career progressed and matured, marquez began to dispense with all that and began to be a brilliantly skilled banger who has provided us with amazing memories to last a lifetime. he will another chance to -- he will have another chance to have something he does not have, a win against pacquiao. may, 2004, marquez met pacquiao in a fight for the ages. a fight that almost did not make it out of the first round. >> he fired the straight right
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hand and this is the reason we use the word you sensation. he caught marquez going down. and i'm not sure juan manual will be able to get up. >> despite having been knocked down three times and suffering a broken nose in round one, marquez showed will and courage to get back into the fight. marquez' right hand is finding the target, over and over and over. he won the round big and he has pacquiao bleeding from his eye. >> as the fight entered the late rounds, it was becoming more intense. >> what a battle. >> in a fight that helped to define his career, marquez fought all the way back to earn a draw. march 2007, marquez had a match up of mexican ring warriors.
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>> upper cut for marquez, and barara stunned, and in trouble, bobbles back against the ropes and marquez looking to knockout his man. and barara comes back with a right hand. and knocks marquez down. amazing. referee ruled it as a slip rather than a knock down and penalized barara, a point for hitting marquez as he was down. that shifted the momentum in the final rounds. >> barrara lands two shots. big left hand for marquez, and the bell ends the drama. >> marquez was awarded a unanimous decision by wide margins. major 2008, four years after their epic draw, marquez and pacquiao finally met again. after a sluggish start, pacquiao's fists came alive in round three.
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>> down goes marquez on a straight left hand. perfect shot by pacquiao. >> but, again, marquez refused to back down. here is a perfect combination by marquez. down the stretch, pacquiao and marquez, for a second time, dazzled the boxing world with sustained back and forth action. >> one more right hand for marquez, one more combination for pacquiao, they trade shots down the stretch. >> after another classic battle, pacquiao escaped with a one-point split decision victory. the third round knock down proving the only difference in the fight. february 2009, marquez faced juan baby bull diaz for a light weight title. styles make fights and it was clear that this fight would be a thriller. >> big left hook by diaz, marquez trying to fire back and lands a right cross and a left hook. round one is an all out war. marquez found himself in a
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slug-fest with diaz but was able to survive the early assault and then changed the momentum with a upper cut that broke his skin. >> diaz got caught with a left hook and he looks stunned. >> diaz was bothered by the cut and marquez went for the knockout in round nine. >> a huge upper cut d down goes diaz. can he make it out of the round? >> look at him go to the body and try to set up the finish and what a right hand and that will be that. >> november 2011, does marquez at 38 years old have enough left to make a third rate fight with manny pacquiao? try to get a catch weight of 144 pounds, he left no doubt he can match pacquiao shot for shot. >> hard right hand for marquez, pacquiao was knocked back on heels.
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most dominant round of the fight so far, offered by marquez. >> unlike the first two meetings, marquez never hit the canvas here, but again, a pacquiao/marquez classic was too close to call going into the final round. >> marquez has backed off in the final round, pacquiao only needs to throw another combination here at the end to probably seal the round. this was a tremendous tactical error i think by juan manual marquez. >> the 12th round scoring proved the difference in the fight as pacquiao won a controversial largely unpopular majority decision over marquez. tune in next week for the next installment. don't miss the live fight, pacquiao versus marquez 4 on h
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