an underdose of anaesthesia can happen for a lot of reasons. sometimes it's just a goof, a vaporizer gas tank gets disconnected or is empty. >> the physician has the vapor izer on, thinking they're providing anaesthesia to the patient but they're really not. they're undergoing surgery with no anaesthesia. undergoing a surgical procedure with no anaesthesia, that's not defendable. >> anaesthesia awareness happens to about 1 out of over 1,000 patients. most are awake and aware but not in the any pain. when you schedule surgery, ask your surgeon if you need to be asleep, because sometimes numbing just the surgical site could work instead. no good doctor ever means to hurt you. doctors and nurses and everyone who takes care of us are just like us -- human and make mistakes. now you can help them get things right. i'm elizabeth cohen, and i hope this hour makes you an empowered patient.

do you trust ahmadinejad. >> on this i don't. >> if the president didn't know exactly what happened, he sure as hell should have. >> candidates? >> i was the perfect candidate for america. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is really a foreign idea. >> and more. >> it's ridiculously easy for someone to purchase a gun. >> do you think homosexuality is a sin?

>> i think that it's -- it's -- it's unnatural. >> did you wake up this morning and have a quick, you know? >> i probably did. probably did. >> "piers morgan tonight -- the news makers" starts now. good evening. one of the great things about my job is that every night i get to sit down with movers and shakers. the men and women at the center of the biggest stories of the year. the world leaders, lawmakers, celebrities. and people who never expected to find themselves in the spotlight. what do they have in common? they're all utterly fascinating. tonight you'll hear from some of my favorite guests. we'll begin with the big man himself, chris christie. in the wake of the superstorm sandy, he found himself in a bit of political hot water for making nice with president obama. >> good evening. breaking news tonight, superstorm sanity crashing astore in southern jersey in the last hour. 2.8 million people without power.

>> i watched these extraordinary scenes over new jersey today. really quite unprecedented. i haven't seen anything quite like it. have you anything like this in your lifetime? >> no, i haven't. you see the boardwalk where the program "the jersey shore" is filmed. the boardwalk is gone. it is gone. it's in the ocean. it's incredible. homes destroyed. it's an awful thing. >> you take charge like you've always done in a very impressive way. people have been surprised you eve been so outspokeningly supportive and praise worthy to the president. i'm not surprised knowing you, but tell me why you were happy to do that so close to the election when some say politically that wasn't the best thing to do. >> this is much more important than any election.

this is the livelihood of the people in my state. and when the president does things that deserve praise, i will give him praise. and when the president does things that deserve scorn, i will give him scorn. i think people know that about me, but i am not going to play politics with this issue. this is so much bigger than an election. this is the livelihood of the people of my state. what they expect me to do is get the job done. when someone asks me an honest question, i give an honest answer. how has the president been to deal with? he's been outstanding to deal with on this, and i look forward to seeing him tomorrow so he can see for himself what this hurricane as done to my state. breaking news on the attack in libya that killed ambassador christopher stevens, the country's terrorism chief says it was a terrorist attack. >> clearly the death of ambassador christopher stevens continues to reverberate and the truth or other wise of the circumstances leading up to his death seem to be vague to put it mildly. where do you think we are with this?

>> let me tell you what's not vague is that five days after, five days after the -- what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trouted out our ambassador to the u.n. saying this was a spontaneous demonstration due to a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things i've ever observed in my life. and obviously there were warnings. and obviously anybody who believes in an attack with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades and a very sophisticated attack is the result of a video is -- i mean, it's just ridiculous. and finally, piers, it's not the video that's stoking these demonstrations, as you know, it's the radical islamists that are using the videos as a means of enflaming passion in the middle east. and i'll be damned if if i'm

ready to abandon the freedom of speech because it might offend the prophet mohammad. >> we've ahead calls for ambassador rice to resign. are you in favor of that? >> no. i think that's shooting the messenger. she was told to go out and do that. i blame the secretary of state. i blame the operatives in the white house and i blame our national security adviser. if the president didn't know exactly what happened, he sure as hell should have. david petraeus steps down after admitting to cheating on his wife. tonight, new information on his stunning resignations. there is a theory that come on, we had great generals mcarthur, paton, eisenhower, they all had affairs, jfk, clinton and so on. the digital era sun raveling all this stuff that is the problem. what do you say to that? >> well, i don't think the idea -- the problem is that general petraeus had an affair.

i think the idea and the big problem is that he was director of the cia and he walked right into one of the most blackmailable situations you can have. it's good the fbi found out about it before the russians and the chinese. that's the problem. it's not that he's a general fooling aaround, even though according to the military code of justice, that's not allowed. the press is focused on the director of the cia having this problem. teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff. with 36 days to go until tax increases kick in, white house and congress are playing a high-stakes game of let's make a deal. >> grover, only you in america believes there has to be, what i believe to be really farcical now absolute pledge for life about these kinds of things. surely the nature of the modern world is very fast moving. it's changing a lot. america clearly has huge economic problems, heading for another fiscal cliff. everyone laughing at you from

afar. the american public sick and tired of all the games going on. and there you, grover norquist, a very bright guy, still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge. it cannot be broken, when many of your own party are now say you know what, it doesn't make sense to just have this irresolute position anymore. >> well, two things. the pledge is not for life, but everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasle out of it, shame on him as the "new york sun" said today. i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, whoa, whoa. hang on, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below the belt, grover. >> hey, if you think a commitment is not for as long as as you made it for. the commitment for the pledge as peter king well know whence he signed it is as long as you're in congress, you will rein in spending and reform government, not raise taxes.

it's not for 500 years or two generations. it's only as long as you're in the house or the senate. if he stayed too long, that's his problem. but you don't tell the bank, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that a long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. coming up, was mitt romney done in my his own party in when we come back, the presidential candidates who may have inflicted mortal damage on him. let's go to the empty chair. todd aiken was going to speak to us about the rape that he talked about. why were you such an idiot and the second question is why haven't you resigned yet?

whether i earned your vote or not, i have listened to you. i have learned from you, and you have made me a better president. and with your stories and your stugles, i return to the white house more determined and more inspired about the work we have to do and the future that lies ahead. >> that's president obama

delivering his victory speech on election night. the race wasn't even close, despite the poor state of the american economy. maybe mitt romney never had a chance. his fellow contenders feasted on one of their own during the primaries. isn't the american way that if somebody gives you a smack on the nose you eventually have to smack them back. isn't it time now for you to accept that this negativity has pounded you into a position where much as you would like to keep it positive, isn't it time you got the old gingrich fist out and gave romney a good old smack? >> harry truman in his great re-election campaign when he was so far behind that gallup quit taking polls in mid september, went after dewey and crowds would yell out give him hell, harry. and he yelled back, no, i just tell the truth and it hurts like hell. i think romney's record is so bad, he's clearly a moderate,

he's done so many things that are indefensible in the republican primary. it would be okay in a democratic primary but in a republican primary it's indefensible. all i have to do is tell the truth. all i have to do is point out facts. i think the next few weeks will be a lot of fun. they'll be very interesting. my only request of mitt is that he be honest with the country. >> america clearly needs someone with a good business brain. the economy remains in the tank. you went after mitt romney today about his work at bain capital. you called him a greedy wall street so-and-so. was that the most reasonable position? calling him a vulture. should you be on that side of the coin considering you're a successful businessman yourself and texas governor. if mitt romney now wins the nomination, haven't you just landed barack obama a perfect stick to beat him with? >> well, there is a real

difference between a venture capitalist and a vulture capitalist. venture capitalists are good. they inject their capital, they create jobs. bain capital, on the other hand, it ameres to me were vulture capitalists. i don't get confused for a minute that barack obama and his team wouldn't attack mitt romney on that during a general election if he makes it that way. so if nothing else, we're doing mitt a favor by exposing him early on so that he can either figure out how to defend that or, more importantly, and better from my perspective, he's not the nominee to begin with. >> rush limbaugh did call a law student a shut and a prostitute for wanting to have insurance cover for her contraception. i presume you wouldn't view that as either absurd or entertaining. you would view that as pretty offensive? >> well, of course not. no, no. well, of course. as i said before. but again, i'm not going to

spend -- i want to spend my time talking about how we can grow the economy. what i would like to talk about which is offensive is governor romney out there for almost a year telling the people of the republican primary that he never advocated, that romney care would be a federal model. that he never advocated for an individual mandate. that government at the federal level require people to buy insurance and now we find on several occasions, just in the past week article after article, interview after interview where governor romney did just that in 2009. now to me, that's offensive. >> is he a liar then? >> well, this goes to the snob -- snobbish issue? which is, he clearly did not tell the truth. you don't necessarily go and, you know, accuse a person on a personal level, you describe the action. i did and i accurately described governor romney did not tell the

truth to the republicans at the debates. telling people that he did not do what we now know he did repeatedly. >> unless i'm mistaken, i think not telling the truth repeatedly is lying, isn't it? >> well, i'll let you frame that one. and take responsibility for it. i just said all i'm going to say on this. >> were you disappointed there was no bonified tea party candidate left in the race? >> i am very happy to get behind any of these candidates because i want to have a unifying voice. we will unify as a party. very shortly we'll be batoning down the hatches behind whoever our standard bearer will be. i will be happy to back that candidate. >> my guess is if you all sat down for dinner, the person you would be nodding with most would be rick santorum. would that be a misreading? >> i like rick santorum a lot. i like mitt romney, newt gingrich and ron paul.

>> who do you most agree with? >> i think my opinions were fairly forthright throughout the debate. and i felt quite honestly i was the perfect candidate for america, but that didn't happen. so really quite honestly, whichever candidate it is, i will be happy to back. >> if you're so vehemently in the vanguard against obamacare, presumably mitt romney is the least of the four candidates that you would personally endorse, right? because of his own health care plan wasn't that different? >> i think that's the positive difference i made. mitt romney's action is he will get behind a full scale repeal. so no matter who our nominee is, they've all committed verbally to repeal of obamacare. now it's up to us to hold our nominee's feet to the fire. >> talking of competition, if i was prescribing some medicine for you right now, congressman, i think i would say the situation is looking pretty terminal for your race to be the gop nominee.

why don't you just do the decent thing and pull out? why are you staying in the race? >> why don't you do the decent thing and not pester me with silly questions like that. why? that would be decent of you. >> hang on. the latest gallup poll has you at 9%. mitt romney is at 39%. >> wait, wait, wait. what you're looking for are delegates. and we're doing quite well. >> let's see how well you're doing. mitt romney, 568 delegates. ron paul, 71. >> okay, what about the state where is they're still working through the process, which is most of them. you know, whether -- you know, whether it's up maine. we're doing well in the state of washington. and north dakota. excellent now in nevada. and even missouri the other day, some really good news came out there for us. through the process, our people

in the right places and they're doing the things to become a delegate. so it's way too soon for you to write anybody off. besides, just because somebody is in second or third place, there's a race going on. what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray you as a kind of ruthless money machine who same failed, some succeeded. you didn't care. you still got your fees. or you made a ton of money, but quite a few of the companies have failed. a lot of people lost their jobs, livelihood, lost money. with to me, the key question is, do you know instinctively from your recollections how many of those companies that you went into would have failed any way if you hadn't. >> there's no question that a number of place where is we went in and invested, we were investing in an enterprise that was in trouble. that where the future was very

much in doubt for it. we invested in one business, i think it lost 50 million or 60 million more the year before we invested. we were able to go in there with the current management team, help get the business back on track as an investor. the managers really ran it. but they were able to turn it around, see a real success and it's still around today, doing quite well. it provides jobs for a lot of people. the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is really a foreign idea. the whole enterprise system is associated with making success. that means they can hire more people and grow. and every investment that i made while i was responsible for an investment firm, every

investment was designed to try and help the business grow and become more successful. >> up next, one of the most fascinating and frustrating interviews, iran's president, mahmoud ahmadinejad, one of the most feared men in the world. >> one of the best nights was, of course -- >> i tell you what. let me stop you. >> i can get the hair out of pli face. >> that's your husband lappeding. >> is it? oh, it is. how funny is that. let's keep the camera rolling, actually. this interview has just been interrupted by vice president biden coming over our heads and wrecking his wife's interview.

americans consider mahmoud ahmadinejad public enemy number one. in the interview, his answers were infuriating and fascinating. i asked him what he thinks of israel then i asked other world leaders what they think about him. >> looking live at new york, home of the united nations. world leaders from 193 countries are gathering for the annual meeting of the general assembly. president mahmoud ahmadinejad will address the meeting. you have been condemned for vociferously in america for a comment that you are said to have made that you want israel to be wiped off the map. wiped off the face of the earth. there have been many interpretations of what you said. you disputed the meaning that

was then translate from the original farsi. let me give you the opportunity to say exactly what you did say and say exactly what you did mean. >> translator: we have been condemned in the united states for many things. for having deposed a dictator with a revolution. very having sought free elections. for not allowing our oil and national treasure to leave our country freely. and for having stood up to very dangerous terrorists in the region, for having stood up against saddam hussein. baud we said justice for all,

the right for peaceful nuclear energy for all. >> but mr. president, do you want -- >> translator: allow me, please. >> that's not the question. >> translator: i will get to that question. don't be in such a hurry. >> should israel be wiped off the map? is that your desire? >> translator: if a group comes an occupies the united states of america, destroys home while women and children are in those homes, incarcerate the youth of america, impose five different wars on many neighbors, and always threaten others, what would you do? what would you say? would you help it? would you help that entity?

or would you help the people of the united states? >> when we say to be wiped, we say for occupation to be wiped off this world. for war seeking to be wiped off and eradicating. the killing of women and children to be eradicated. and we propose the way, we propose the path. >> what they're really saying is in spite of the fact that we deny the holocaust, that we threaten israel and demonize the united states and we do all this stuff, we want you to trust us. in spite of the fact that we won't cooperate with the international regime set up to avoid an arms race in the middle east and set up to avoid nuclear proliferation, we want you to trust us. so they don't have a tenable position. >> do you trust them? >> the reason nobody trusts them is because they don't have a tenable position. >> do you trust ahmadinejad? >> not on this, i don't.

>> his position is look, why should america be allowed nuclear weapons. why should israel, they nevered a mitted they have them, why should many countries be allowed nuclear weapons and not iran. >> then why isn't he going for some bigger nonproliferation initiative instead of acting like what he really wants is a nuclear bomb because that will help to get everybody to get rid of their nuclear weapons. no serious person believes that. >> president ahmadinejad struck a strangely modifying tone, many felt. he was more reasoned than he has been in previous years in this event. one theory is he's legitimately concerned that israel may do some preemptive strike and then no one can control what happens next. and second, the sanctions may be biting. they may now be really hurting iran. and he's getting heat from his own people.

what do you think? >> well, i think he will be getting a certain amount of heat from some people. there's no doubt the sanctions are having a big effect. indeed i think next month for the first time iraq will actually export more oil than iran. the whole balance of power in terms of oil production in the region is changing as a result of the sanctions. on the other hand, i think as the recent report of the atomic energy authority indicates there's no sign that iran is relenting on this central push. and the trouble is it's combined with the regime that holds views and does things that most people within the region find unacceptable. >> if we cut off iran's ability to export oil which would face them with the prospect of def tating economic blow, then i think that would be an inevitable move toward war. to war. and i think it would be a very serious mistake. >> and you deliberately avoided any kind of military conflict with iran when you were

president. >> yes, i did. i was advised by many of our people to go with with iran, to bomb them and to punish emt for holding our hostages. >> do you still think it was an error to do that? >> i do. every hostage came home. there was no war with iran. >> coming up, what may be the most controversial topic of the year -- guns in america.

>> 2012 will be seen as the year of the gun. it was truly shocking from aurora to colorado to the shikh temple in wisconsin to sandy hook elementary school. where 26 people were killed, 20 of them first graders. we're looking live at a community in mourning and shock after one of the worst mass shootings in american history. the gunman walked into sandy hook elementary school until newtown, connecticut, and open fired. >> it came late in my life and jesse was my son, but he was my best friend and my buddy, too. my little boy said something the night before to me. and he said dad, this is going to be the best christmas ever. and he was going on about it. and i said jesse, you know, it's -- you know, we'll make it the best we can. i don't have much family, so it's kind of a quiet time for

me. and he makes it -- made christmas happy for me and joyful. he made it what it was. and i said we'll make it best we can. and the next day the tragedy occurred and i thought to myself, boy was he wrong about that. >> the ar-15 that we've seen from the past three mass murders is the weapon of choice. the president of the united states has indicatehood ewants to ban assault weapons like this. what is your view? >> i think we need to ban gun control laws that keep people from being able to protect

themselves. the problem is not going to go away if we ban this or that gun. we've tried that. that doesn't work. it doesn't even work in england. you've had mass murders there. all over europe there's mass murders. >> you're talking complete and utter nonsense. >> don't wait for 20 minutes for police to come. >> what you said was an absolute lie. the gun murder rate in countries like britain or germany or australia who have all suffered massacres many years of a similar nation, they are 35 people killed a year. your country has 12,000. >> your murder rate is lower than ours, that is true. >> lower? it's 35 against 12,000. >> your violent crime rate is higher than ours. as is the violent crime rate in australia. america is not the wild west that you are depicting. we only have the problem in our

cities and unhappily in our schools where people like you have been able to get laws on the books that keep people from defending themselves. i honestly don't understand why you would rather have people be victims of a crime than be able to defend themselves. >> i ear an unbelievably stupid man, aren't you? >> it seems to me that you're morally obtuse. you seem to prefer being a victim than being able to prevail over the criminal element. i don't know why you want to be the criminal's friend. >> what a ridiculous argument. america is shock tonight over an act of evil that left a dozen people dead and 59 others injuried. it's the largest mass shooting in years. this family was at the premier when the killer open fired. did you think you were going to get out alive?

or did you fear everyone was going to die in there? >> no. my thought was this was how it ends. this is how i die. this can't be the way that i die. this can't be the way my son dies. he's 4 months. this can't be the way our girlfriend dies and our stepdaughter dies. she's 4 years. there's so many things pacing through your head. every time i hear a gunshot, i see out of the corner of my eye someone drop. and i'm trying to duck down, just trying to get out of the way. and people are falling next to me. but i'm still, i'm still all right. and just thinking, this is it. >> every time up with of these things happens, gabrielle giffords last year, this shooting here, there's an outrage and then very quickly it dissipates. the american people quite quickly go back to their normal lives anticipate they don't

demand action in the way that i would expect them to. why do so many americans not feel angry enough to demand further gun control. >> i would take it one step further. i don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike, we're not going to protect you unless you the public through your legislation chur do what's required to keep us safe. police officers want to go home to their families. and we're doing everything we can to make their job for difficult but more importantly, more dangerous by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> parents reaction to an extraordinary new video from the night of the shooting. a prime time shooting in just a moment. from everything that you have seen, that you have read, that you've heard, what do you

believe is the most likely set of circumstances that led to your son being killed? >> i believe that george zimmerman hunted my son like an animal, tried to detain my son. my son tried to get away. and because he could not detain my son an altercation ensued and my son was shot and called. >> when we reverse the situation and it was your brother who had been gunned down in the exact same set of circumstances and the worst that had happened as far as his behavior was that he had been followed and he got into an altercation and he was unarmed, he had a bag of skittles on him and a guy who was much older who followed him in the street pulled out a gun and shot him dead, would you not at the very least if you're honest and candid about this,

would you not have expected that person to at least be arrested? to at least perhaps face some kind of trial where the full evidence could come out? >> well, you know, i take -- i take a pause to that whole conjecture of pulled out a gun and shot him. that's absolutely not fact. >> that's what happened, though. >> that's not what happened. >> he pulled out a gun and shot him. >> he stopped someone from harming him and shooting him. george showed tremendous restraint. >> but he had the gun on him, right? >> he had a permit to carry that gun. >> where was the gun? >> the gun i believe was in his -- tucked inside his pant waist. >> right. so he has pulled it out and he has fired it. >> well, he has taken control of his firearm. he prevented his firearm from being taken from him and used against him. and that's called saving your life.

>> the kansas city chiefs killed the mother of his ba daughter and himself. one dallas cowboys player dead. >> 70% or more of footballers apparently carry guns. clearly most of them have a lot of money. they drive fast cars, they go tonight clubs. they party and all the rest of it. again it's an overriding sense that the culture of the game is slightly out of control. these statistics of arrests, for example, suggest that. what can you really do about it? >> i'm not sure what can be done about it exactly. the nfl prohibits the carrying of firearms at any facility, practice facility, any event that's connected with the team. you make a public relations appearance, in the stadium. i don't know how cleesly they enforce that. they do prohibit it. they do tell players in their stated policy that while it's legal to posess a gun, we urge you not to.

or we urge you that you use it strictly for protection of home and family or possibly if you're a hunter. that it's infinitely more likely that something bad will happen if you're armed than something good will happen. >> coming up, is america becoming more liberal? what does same sex marriage and marijuana say about this country? ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave ain. iams. keep love strong.

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marijuana and same-serbs marriage is now legal in nine states and the district of columbia. president obama tipped the scales of the stunning announcement that he now supports same-sex marriage. >> president obama's support for gay marriage, how much is personal, how much is political? is this a game changer? you must be pretty happy that president obama reacted so quickly. >> i am. i feel so empowered. >> i mean, a big day for every, you know, every gay american. a big day for every american in many ways. whatever the reaction you had to it. how did you feel when you heard the news? >> it is a little bittersweet. i'm in north carolina and as a north carolinian, i was really disappointed with the way the amendment initiative vote went yesterday here in north carolina.

but it's very promising to hear president obama finally come up and speak out on something that's so important. and i think the ground swell, the energy that was behind a lot of the activists and the people who were important in the vote here yesterday in north carolina, that energy made its way to washington and prem realized that this was a time to speak up and to speak out on the freedom for everyone to marry. >> do you think homosexuality is a sin? >> i think that it's -- it's unnatural. i think that it's detrimental and destructive to so many foundations of civilization. >> what do you do if your one of your six kids says dad, bad news, i'm gay. >> i would sit down and have a heart to heart with them.

>> i'm going to say, there's all sorts of issues that we need to wrestle through in our life. and just because you feel one way doesn't mean we should act on what we feel. >> some people telling kids that being gay is a sin a incredibly destructive and damaging in a country where seven states have legalized it. >> yes, but you have to also understand that you yourself are using a standard of morality to say that telling people such and such of a behavior is sinful -- you're using a standard of morality to make that statement and say that that is terribly destructive. so everyone is going to have a standard against which they -- >> no, i'm not an american. i'm making the point that seven states in america have now legalized gay marriage. >> well, piers, your speaking to a man who's a christian. and i believe all of us are sinful.

i could stand at the top of the list and say that i need a savior and overhaul of the heart more than anyone. that's what i teach my kids. i teach the values i hold dear. i was struck that he wasn't opposed to. i was opposed to the language he was using. he said it's destructive to civilization. >> it's shocking and, again, i have lived in new york and california most of my life, i was raised in new mexico. and certainly a lot of people there still feel that way. i do forget that there are so many parts of our nation that feel that way. but i think a lot of it is just -- it's really lack of knowledge. >> something extraordinary happened on tuesday as voters in

colorado and washington state said, yes, to legalizing marijuana for recreational use. when you last did an interview with this show, larry king was the host. and you admitted to him that you were actually high at the time. you had infused yourself -- >> did i say that? >> marijuana, yeah. i've got to ask you the question, have you come similarly infused today? >> what's today? >> it could be any day you like. >> okay. >> did you wake up this morning and have a quick -- >> well, probably did. i probably did, if i remember -- it's that short-term stuff. >> do you take a lot of it? >> i think some people have more tolerance for smoking pot than others. and i know people can take one hit and just go to sleep completely and other guys that can smoke a lot. me and snoop smoke a lot.

in every country we've been in, i guess, i was in amsterdam one time and snoop called me and wanted me to sing on his record. i said, okay. he said, where are you? i said. in amsterdam. he caught the next plane and came over. >> you and snoop go to amsterdam, the mecca of dope, really. and you both have a load of it and then write some music together. >> now we can go to colorado. >> when we come back, two very different spiritual leaders.

as 2012 comes to an end, let's leave you with encouraging words from two of the best known spiritual leaders i've interviewed this year. we're here to discuss the world peace summit which you've been asked to speak at. do you think the world is a more peaceful place now than was when you first became dalai lama? >> oh, yes. the fundamental level, i think, of today's world much better. at least with the disappearance of the berlin wall and eventually big change happened. so at least the two blocs both

have nuclear weapon, ready to shoot each other, that kind of danger is now no longer. and there are pockets here and there of violence. very sad, but compare during that period of danger, i think still today, comparatively, much better. very important, i think although the world peace is something that's become fashion, peace, peace, peace, even though some people who really making every preparation for war, but they use the word of "peace, peace, peace." >> what i wonder, you wrote a book called "i declare." and it's a smart premise. you take a statement for every day of the month. >> yeah. >> and it's very positive