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bottom of the hour now. good morning, everyone, i'm brianna keilar in for randi kaye. >> and it's good to have you here. >> thank you. good to be here. number one, authorities in florida still have not found the body of a man swallowed by a sink hole. jeff bush was in the bedroom of his tampa home thursday night when the room just collapsed into the ground. bush's brother jumped in to try to save him, but he couldn't. authorities say the hole is growing bigger and could take the house with it. detroit is just about broke. this is our number two story. michigan's governor rick snyder is taking drastic action.
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snyder announced he will appoint an emergency manager. he'll have the power to cut spending if necessary. a state review found that detroit's long-term debts exceed $14 billion. at number three, bruce davis, a former follower of charles manson is not getting parole. jerry brown reversed a parole board decision to let the 70-year-old out of jail saying he still poses a danger to society. davis is serving a life sentence for killing two men in 1969. and number four, today kicks off the $85 billion in forced spending cuts. president obama signed that order last night after the white house and congressional leaders failed to come up with an alternati alternative. defense spending will be impacted the most. congress will take another stab at replacing the cuts with another plan later this month. number five, in just over three weeks, the supreme court will begin to hear oral arguments on california's
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proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. over the past week, dozens of republican leaders have joined president obama urging the court to overturn the ban. >> same-sex couples are a group, a class that deserves heightened scrutiny, that supreme court needs to ask the state why it's doing it and if the state doesn't have a good reason, it should be struck down. that's the core principle as applied to this case. if i were on the court, that'd probably be the view i'd put forward. but i'm not a judge, i'm the president. >> while he is the president, only nine people will get the vote to reverse california's same-sex marriage ban, the supreme court justices. >> how the views of president obama and other politicians have evolved over the years. joe? >> victor, brianna, it's been clear for some time that the president supports gay rights, but until this week it was not clear whether the president's lawyer who argues cases at the supreme court would actually
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file a brief supporting marriage equality and the case involving california's proposition 8. the administration waited until the last minute to say whether it was taking a stand on california's proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. even while prominent republicans of all stripes were jumping on the bandwagon, calling on the court to rule the state's law unconstitutional. hollywood producer and actor clint eastwood, former republican national committee chairman ken melman, and beth myers who ran mitt romney's campaign in 2008 and served as a senior adviser to him in the last campaign. former arizona congressman jim colby who is gay says his position on gay marriage has changed over time. >> like others, i've evolved on it too. there was a time, as i mentioned, when i didn't believe that gay marriage was a possibility. and so i thought, well, you know, if we could have civil union or something, that would be great. but i no longer believe that.
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i'm no longer willing to settle for that. >> it's an important moment in the law and also in politics because the administration's position on same-sex marriage could go a long way toward defining the obama legacy. he's already made history on the issue becoming the first american president to mention it in an inaugural address. >> our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. for if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal, as well. >> reporter: the president's views have evolved and he himself has said he struggles with the gay marriage issue. this is what he said in 2004. >> i believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. but i also detest the sort of bashing and vilifying of gays and lesbians. because i think it's unduly divisive. >> in 2008, running for
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president, he refined his view. >> i do not support gay marriage, but i support a very strong version of civil unions. >> reporter: may of last year was the first time he took the step of supporting it. >> for me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> a source told cnn that mr. obama had the final decision on whether to file a brief and what to say. california is one of eight states that gives gay couples all the benefits of marriage without marriage itself. in the brief, the administration is saying if a state confers all these rights it's already agreeing that gay relationships and straight relationships essentially deserve the same treatment. victor, brianna? >> thanks, joe. if you're offend eed by joa rivers joke about heidi klum, she doesn't care. hear why next. hello. [ man ] jen, there are a lot of beauty brands
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she is an oscar winner who keeps it real. and that's why everybody loves jennifer lawrence. you love her. >> i adore her. i think she's so great. and here's another reason why everyone loves her. the down to earth actress not only admitted that recent ads for dior were photo shopped she said i love photo shop more than anything in the world. people don't look like that. most of the photos, like this one, barely resemble her. and how is this for an odd couple. kim jong-un and dennis rodman laughing it up on the court side in pyongyang. just two dudes chilling, watching the game.
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now, the magazine is producing a new show for hbo, our corporate cousin. after the game, rodman gave a speech to the crowd in which he told kim, you have a friend for life. >> very bizarre. >> i wonder if they'll be writing notes and sending pictures. >> i don't know. one person who is not making any new friends, joan rivers. yeah, the comedian stirred up drama after she made this back-handed compliment about heidi klum's oscar outfit. >> last time a german looked this hot is when they were pushing -- >> and victor, she's not apologizing for that either. this is what she said on "showbiz tonight" on thursday. >> it's a joke, number one. number two, it was about the holocaust, i do it through humor. my husband lost his entire family in the holocaust.
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let's start with that. so people, your generation doesn't even know what i'm talking about. my doing a joke gets them talking and thinking and didn't bother heidi, doesn't bother me. >> joining us now to talk about this, kix 101.1 radio host and sirius xm host pete dominic. jen, you're here in studio, what do you think about this joke? offensive? hybrid of both? >> first of all, it's not funny. it's reprehensible. and i think that joan rivers has built a brand on this, right? she said -- this is sort of her excuse to say whatever she wants to say. and just gain attention. this is what it's about for joan. it's not necessarily about comedy. it's just about her getting attention whether that's good attention or bad attention. and everybody's talking about it. so it seems to work. >> you know this brand. you've worked with her before. are people too sensitive? this is who joan rivers is? >> it's not for me to say somebody's too sensitive, whether or not it's funny, i
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think it's funny personally, i also can see how it's offensive. but that's not the question -- you know, joan rivers is an amazing, amazing comedienne. she's been relevant for 119 years, guys. she does this for a living. i opened for her once, she did a joke about 9/11 about the people falling from the buildings. i have never heard a more offensive or edgy joke. that's her brand, that's what she does. she also happens to be one of the most generous and thoughtful people i've ever met in this business. and the fact she's still relevant and still pushing the envelope, that's what we, many of us as comedians are supposed to do. i don't necessarily sell that on stage myself, but i see why others do. and the fact we get so outraged about this, it really is absurd. my friend who is going to join you later has a great column at cnn.com about this. there's a lot more to be outraged right now than a joke made by joan rivers no matter what the material it is regarding. let's move on to victor's favorite reality show star.
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>> now we're deflating this. going too far. >> honey boo boo, the reality tv star was just trying to help a friend out. trying to help her sell girl scout cookies, put it up on her fan page. but the girl scouts of america had her shut it down they said yank that. first off, pete, do you care? >> yes, i do. now this i do care about. and if victor really if you really are a fan of the show, you are the problem. i will come after -- this is something to be outraged and offended about. this is the decay of western civilization as adam levine commented. the idea that, a, some woman would do this with her daughter, this show, b, a network would sell, and c, if people like victor is serious or anyone would buy this stuff, this matters. we should -- it's fine to buy some of this. but if you're not paying attention to some of the important things, then that's the problem. >> i don't know, pete, i need a break sometimes from the serious
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stuff. >> we do. >> we just identified the problem. >> if this whole honey boo boo selling girl scout cookies, if you want to buy them, buy them from my daughter @petedominick on twitter not honey boo boo who is the bane of america's existence. >> i disagree. >> she stinks, the show stinks, the mother stinks. >> i couldn't disagree with him more. this is a loving family. yes, they live a different lifestyle. it is something -- it's a spectacle to watch on tv. but they are a loving family to each other. and she was trying to help a friend. which, by the way, the girl scouts give out badges for friendship, for business acumen for finance, for learning how to sell cookies. >> they do and i know because i have all of them. i'm wondering, do you think they went too far? do you think they're sending the wrong message. obviously they didn't want the association with the show because maybe it's controversial. did they go too far? >> i think this was a marketing
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mistake by the girl scouts. i think they should have invited alana, she's 7 years old, to become a girl scout with her friend and teach her your policies of the way you want her to sell cookies if it's not on facebook and your policy is against selling them online. but look, this was a teachable moment they really missed out on. they could have said, hey, become our friend, become a girl scout, and instead said you're not a girl scout and this is against policy. i think it was really going against what some of their core values are. >> i think they went too far. and in defense of people who watch the show, it's societal bubble gum. is there nutritional value? no, is there any reason you chew it other than the flavor, but every once in a while you want a piece of bubble gum. >> i hear you. i think honey boo boo and her mom are eating all the girl scout cookies to be honest. i don't know if they're selling them. >> pete. >> sorry, so early in the morning, those jokes offensive. but the idea that anybody cares about this honey boo boo. to be fair, i've never seen the show and i'm ranting on this.
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the idea -- the issue -- the girl scout cookies is interesting, but who cares about her? why are we talking about her? why would a mother subject her daughter to that? and why would people buy that stuff? i've got two daughters. >> all right. check out an episode. >> and they're brownies. please buy her cookies, everybody. >> jen, pete, thank you. >> thank you. hey, call it the titanic sequel. an australian billionaire, this story i love, recreating the world's most famous ship, literally. wait until you hear how eerily similar this thing is going to be to the original. i'll talk to him next. just tacos. yeah, it's our job to make you want it. but honestly... it's not that hard. old el paso. when you gotta have mexican.
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god almighty. ♪ you're here there's nothing i fear ♪ ♪ you are safe -- >> we were singing along to the theme that was playing and you've got to love it. of you got to love this movie "titanic" 1997. can you believe it's been more than 15 years? the first movie to reach $1 billion at the box office. but for one man, the film was not enough to capture the true essence of "titanic." he wants to recreate the ship. and he's doing it down to every last detail. from the grand staircase to those four gold smokestacks. so i had to talk to this guy. i ask, one, who are you? and then, second, what can
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passengers expect on this "titanic" 2? i spoke with the australian mining tycoon, clive palmer. >> you book a ticket, you get a set of clothing cabin were for ladies that may not have put on a bustle before, they'll have the adventure of doing that, and it will be all dining, so you'll going back in time to an earlier time. it will be just lake stepping out of the movie, except it will be reality. it's a six-day voyage across southampton to new york, and the people will have the options of buying a ticket, either in first, second, or third class. i'll be in third class. it'll be a lot of fun there. or you can buy a ticket where you get two days in first, two days in second, and two days in third. but we have 40,000 people already that have registered for tickets. so there's a strong desire to do it. we can't fit all the people in america on the ship, we know that everyone might want to come, but i think that we'll have enough people that will make it a great success. >> let's talk about the engineering, because we just watched for several days the
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carniv"carnival triumph" and pe without energy there. they sailed without ac. your ship will have air-conditioning, one big difference from the original. talk about the other technological differences. >> of course, it will be a diesel electric. and the bridge was originally too large to see over the bow. so we're putting on another deck and on that deck will be safety lifeboats with their own motors that could sail around the world. so we'll have 130% life-saving devices on the ship, which they didn't have last time. and on that new safety deck, that will all be different than the "titanic," it will have a casino, it will all be a modern thing, so people can decide if they want to come back in time or stick with 1912. >> you talk about the safety deck. let's talk about the safety measures. because you're calling this the safest ship in the world. it will be when it's complete. we've heard that about another "titanic." there are some people who just kind of question this and feel it's just a bit creepy. what's your response to those folks?
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>> well, not really. certainly, some people will have that view. we can't please all the people, all the time. but because we have satellite navigation, which is in the one of the funnels, as well as radar these days. anything coming on a collision can be well followed by radar. we've got 24-hour watch on all ships that happened after the "titanic" and all these benefits, we've got a welded hull, and the "titanic" was pop riveted and some of the rivets weren't up to it. we're in a different time, entirely. so i think the technology is not really an issue. we're not going to the moon. we're not going down in space when technology has moved forward and this ship will be tiptop. it's being designed in finland by some of the people who have designed some of the best ships in the world. we've got the technology, but we want the passenger experience to be exactly the same. >> how much is this going to cost? the project, building this ship? >> it's going to cost as much as it costs, victor. we haven't finalized the budget. >> what's the budget?
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come on, guive me a number, clive. >> well, various publications, all estimate it will cost $3 to $5 billion, so it will cost a lot less than that. at this stage in your life, you want to create jobs and industry, and it will be a good one. i wasn't looking at this originally at making a lot of money, but the demand for it has been overwhelming. >> prices have not been set, but 16 people from the u.s. and europe have already offered him up to $1 million for a first class ticket. sometimes being out in the elements like this for hours can cause, well, an outburst. yep, sort of been there, wanted to do it myself from time to time. jeanne moos up next on reporters who say the darnedest things. nurses are dealing with a wider range of issues. and there are ever-changing regulations.
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okay. so here's a scary thought. you want to think about something scary, let's do it. have you ever wondered what it would be like if your car pedal actually jammed and you're like racing down the highway? >> that's a terrible -- that would be a very horrible -- >> it's a terrible thought. >> i've never thought about it, but thanks. >> i'm sorry. >> well, now you've got to see this. exactly what happened to a 16-year-old in texas, whose car raced out of control, at speeds up to 120 miles per hour, and even faster than that. he even called the police, begging to find a solution. he eventually lost control, flipped almost five times. look at this car. the car's crushed, but thankfully, that teenager survived. >> unbelievable. so victor, you and i have covered all kinds of stories, all kinds of weather, you know
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