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future and have people want to invest more in the programming because the numbers don't lie. >> reporter: according to the hollywood reporter, ratings for the zombie drama surpassed those of award winning hits like "the big bang theory" and "modern family." "the walking dead" is part of a growing trend in the television landscape, more and more viewers migrating to basic cable channels to watch their favorite shows. >> frankly i'm impressed. >> reporter: whether it is "mad men," "breaking bad" or zombies, they're offering something a lot of broadcast networks aren't or in some cases. >> they're changing the business. what a basic cable network can get away with in terms of violence and censors, no way a network can make the walking dead in the way the fans would most crave it to be created. >> reporter: but the zombies themselves also deserve credit for "the walking dead's" uprising, like the vampire craze we have seen in recent years with "the twilight" movies and
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"true blood," zombies are the new it monster in entertainment. movie audiences can see them this summer chasing down brad pitt in "world war z". >> don't be creepy. >> reporter: in the surprise hit "warm bodies," a dark comedy about a zombie takeover has earned more than $85 million at the worldwide box office. star nicholas holt has a theory on why zombies are hot in pop culture. >> there is a morbid twisted fascination with that sort of thing. a lot of us are like zombies in many ways, stumbling through life. >> reporter: much like the gruesome creatures in "the walking dead," interest in zombies just won't die. >> thanks, nischelle. jimi hendrix died in 1970, but his music certainly lives on. ♪ hendrix, known as the legendary master of the electric guitar, has a new album out titled "people, hell and angels".
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before he died at 27, he only cut three studio albums and one live lp. that's it for me. brooke baldwin takes it from here. folks in one famous college town on edge after a string of racist behavior, a prankster or something bigger? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. the dow on the verge of closing at a record high. we're watching. plus, some in arizona livid at the mike and molly show for a joke involving american indians. do they deserve an apology? and new information on the drone a pilot spotted in the skies above new york. hi, everyone. top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin.
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we begin with what has become a mystery, a mystery surrounding hugo chavez. for the last hour, we have been listening to venezuelan vice president in his lengthy address to the nation. he has accused the u.s. of plotting against the venezuelan government, even made accusations that the u.s. poisoned chavez. so this theory is prompting venezuela to immediately expel a u.s. diplomat from the country. as for the president's battle with cancer, venezuela says chavez is still alive. but that he has this new infection and that his breathing problems have worsened. this is the last picture we have seen of him. that was taken just last month. the vice president moved to reassure citizens of venezuela that despite the failing health of the 58-year-old leader, they will continue on. talking economy here. this should be a great day to really check your 401(k), right? the stock market clearly on a
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tear. the dow up 138 points here as we speak, two hours away from the closing bell. this is a big deal because the dow jones has hit a record high, smashed through the old record. we talked so much about that over the last couple of days, that old high set in october of '07. cnn business anchor christine romans is with me now in new york. christine, we have been watching. i feel like we have been flirting. i don't want to cry wolf here, but today, finally, the big jump. why now? >> overnight china said that it was going to keep its economy moving forward at about 7.5% growth rate and that seems to be the fuel of -- the kindling that was the dow jones industrial average that was so close to the highs. remember the dow is 30 stocks. 30 stocks. so your 401(k) is probably more represented in the stocks portion by the s&p 500, still about 1% away from its high, but that's 500 stocks. i want to show you some of the dow stocks and how much they're up from the low. brooke, look at this, american
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express up 491%. home depot, up 286%. take a look at some of the household names there. those are the kinds of names that have been driving the dow jones industrial average to record highs. >> but, here's the thing, i was reading a cnn money article from your friend and mine, paul la monica, he was saying, hey, i'm not popping the champagne bottles yet, not everyone is feeling this. >> how many people have told you, great, the dow is at record highs, but what about me? i need a job. doesn't help 12 million people still out of work. doesn't improve an almost 8% unemployment rate. and, look, not everyone is invested in the stock market. gallup finds 53% of americans say they have mutual funds or retirement accounts that they own stocks. 53 out of 100 people say, yes. and that's the lowest number since 1998. so fewer people today invested in stocks that were a decade ago, and not everybody is
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feeling it. no question. >> we will keep an eye and hopefully we can close above that mark, that 14,164 set in october of '07. christine romans, thank you very much. and now this here. this is the story, it has everyone talking, asking questions about elderly care in america. moments ago we have now learned police may pursue charges in the case of a nurse who refused to give cpr to a dying woman. here's the back story. a woman stops breathing at a retirement home in california. it is called glenwood gardens. none of the staff, at least none of those in the loop, was willing to save her life. what? here's why. that's against the rules. no cpr at glenwood gardens in bakersfield. so this woman, this elderly woman, was lying there, unconscious, in the dining room, she was still breathing, but despite the valiant efforts of this 911 dispatcher, she died. listen to this. >> i understand if your facility is not willing to do that.
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give the phone to that passerby, that stranger. i need -- this woman is not breathing enough. she's going to die if we don't get this started. do you understand? >> i understand. i am a nurse. but i cannot have our other senior citizens who don't know cpr -- >> i will instruct them -- is there any -- i will instruct them. is there anyone there. okay, i don't understand why you're not willing to help this patient. >> i am. >> great, then i'll walk you through it all. ems takes the liability for this [ bleep ]. i'm happy to help you. this is protocol. okay. >> can you get -- right away. i don't know where he is, but she's yelling at me and saying we have to have one of our other residents perform cpr. and she'll instruct and i'm not going to do that and make that call. >> is there anybody that works there that is willing to do it? >> we can't -- >> or are we just -- we're going to let this lady die? >> that's why we're calling 911. >> we can't wait.
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she can't wait right now. she's stopping breathing. she can't wait for them to get there. >> he's saying we don't. so you can talk to my boss and i don't -- >> okay. they're refusing cpr. they're going to let her die. >> so that's the phone call. now we have miguel marquez who is breaking the news for us. miguel, possible charges. what do you know? >> possible charges. this makes one's blood boil to listen to that call over and over again. the bakersfield police are looking into elderly abuse charges. they're interviewing everybody involved with this incident. they say in a matter of days they may be able to make a decision on those charges. it is very difficult, though, for them to charge. there is no reason for anyone to render assistance to somebody like this, though it does seem common sense to most of the world in which is -- makes this such a frustrating situation. as for glenwood gardens, the independent living facility where this woman was, they say that it is their protocol, that
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if someone has a problem, their protocol is to call 911, to stay with that person until 911 arrives, and then get them to the best care that they can. now, we did speak to a retired firefighter who responded to this facility, many times over his 21-year career and he said it wasn't just cpr they wouldn't help on, if somebody fell off a chair or fell off a bed, still they would call 911 to have them literally lift them up and put them up, sometimes they were there for 20, 30 minutes, soil themselves, they just felt it wasn't right. it will be interesting to see what bakersfield police can come up with here. >> again, as you point out, this facility standing behind this nurse and apparently if you walk in, if you sign on and stay at this facility, you have to sign that you agree to this policy. miguel marquez, thank you so much for me in los angeles. and now let's talk snow, shall we? as in this snow, a whole lot of this. it is falling right now in chicago. have a look with me. live pictures here. michigan avenue. several inches of snow on the
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ground right now. it is piling up fast. but here's the thing. this storm here is moving eastward. and it is really just beginning to organize itself. just getting out of bed, so to speak. so it will be hitting the big cities starting tonight. the question is, who gets the rain. who gets the snow. alexandria steele is in the cnn weather center. jennifer delgado is standing by in snowy chicago. biggest snow of the year here, 1,000 flights canceled already. is the windy city, is it calling uncle? >> reporter: no, absolutely by no means. we are talking about snow getting heavier across the region. we have seen those snowfall rates between 1 and 2 inches per hour. and you can kind of see on the roadways some of that snow is starting to build up a bit more. you get snow coming out, it makes it harder for officials to keep the streets clean. keep in mind, chicago's street and safety and sanitation department, they have roughly
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1500 cameras out there, that's how they're able to stay on top of the roadways. the problem is, the snow is going to get heavier, then we're going to be firing up the winds with gusts up to 30 miles per hour. that is going to be reducing the visibility. you can already kind of see how it is hazy out there with the blowing snow. visibility roughly about a quarter mile to a half mile for chicago o'hare as well as midway. chicago, the good news, they are pros when it comes to snow removal. but the problem is, we can still see between 6 to 10 inches. the snowfall coming down and, of course, the winds kicking in, that's going to make it dangerous for commuters on their way home from work and of course more cancellations, more delays. >> i know. not fun. not fun if you're flying out of that airport. they know how to deal with it. jennifer, thank you. let me talk to alexandra steele in the cnn weather center. as we try to push this whole thing forward, where should we look to tonight and also in the morning hours? >> washington, d.c., this is
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going to be chicago's biggest snow, brooke. also washington, d.c., willing your biggest as well. only had an inch and a half of snow. so you're 13 inches below average. this will be your biggest. and washington, the mid-atlantic, the most interesting with this, that rain and snow line, where it exactly moves. shifting ten miles one way or the other will be the difference between 5 and 12 inches of snow. we'll get to that. here is the big picture, where jennifer is in chicago. picking up maybe 7 to 10 inches locally a foot possible. minneapolis, things winding down for you. you will see -- you have about 5 to 7, maybe a few more inches, but the endgame is pretty much near. minneapolis, here it is. what we'll see, a stripe of snow, you can see the track of it, and that's the track and where the storm threat is. and where the watches and warnings are. where it will be most interesting is in the mid-atlantic. the snow tomorrow is the snow show for washington, d.c. and what is happening in washington, d.c., in town, brooke, we could see 4 to 8
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inches. west of dallas, they could see 10 to 18. west of that in win chest, the mountains, western maryland, 20 inches. east of that, annapolis, the water influence, maybe 1 to 3. more about that coming up. >> thank you very much. talking snow. now the fbi, the fbi now wants the public's help in solving this mystery in the sky over new york city. an al italia pilot noticed something a little strange outside the jumbo jet's window. take a listen. you'll hear what he told air traffic controllers as audio is captured by live atc.net. >> what did you see? >> we saw a drone, a drone aircraft. >> who else did you see? >> report of a drone at about --
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>> an unmanned drone described by the pilot to look just like this one here. small and black, helicopter rotors hovering about 1500 feet above the runway. as we said, the fbi investigating the incident, along with the federal aviation administration, and the joint terrorism task force. and now some of the hottest stories in a flash, rapid fire. roll it. in seffner, florida, two miles away from the sinkhole that swallowed a man while he slept, a second sinkhole here has opened up. this is a backyard of a family nearby. crews there are on alert, now deciding if it is safe for the family to stay there or not. this area has been called sinkhole alley. as the world's cardinals prepare to choose the next pope, an impostor has tried to crash a secret meeting at the vatican. here he is on the left. you tell a difference?
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what led him down this whole thing and got him caught was his wardrobe. swiss guard kicked him out. noticed his robe was a little shorter than the others. see the sash? not the same red color. it was a scarf. how about the fedora? about the vote here, this is what you need to know about the vote for the next pope. we're told it could be a long wait. >> there is no desire to rush things. but to take this time for discernment and reflection and that's been evident in the meetings thus far. the san francisco oakland bay bridge often overshadowed by the golden gate nearby, but making a visual splash. this visual splash here, an installation called the bay lights. these are 25,000 l.e.d. lights spanning the entire length of this bridge. the visual artist behind this display said he didn't look too far for inspiration, used the birds and clouds and traffic. imagine driving across it while the light show goes on.
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they'll burn from dusk to 2:00 a.m. the next two year and the light pattern will never repeat. kind of cool. up next, a mystery involving racism on a college campus. it has this tiny town on edge. reports of a kkk sighting, but it is not the first instance. is this a lone prankster? might this be something bigger. we'll talk about what is happening on this campus next. you know who you are. you can part a crowd, without saying a word... if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts... well muddlers, muddle no more. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour one on the first day you take it. claritin® doesn't start working until hour three. zyrtec®. love the air. otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before. this ge jet engine can understand 5,000 data samples per second.
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[ male announcer ] now get 50% off brake pads and shoes at meineke. oberlin, ohio, home to a small liberal arts college. it is called oberlin college. the school has a reputation for being proudly progressive, making history along the way. oberlin was first college in the u.s. to admit african-american students, the first college to grant degrees to women. also boast their legacy of inclusion and respect for diversity, which only adds to the shock of the events over the past month here. according to police, 15 hate related events have been reported. including a sign proclaiming whites only above a water fountain and a swastika drawn on a building. but the most recent event was the toughest to swallow here. >> as i was in the car, i saw someone in what seemed to be kkk
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paraphernalia walking on a pathway that is like a pathway that leads to south campus and just, like, seeing them, having it sink in like this is something that is real, that actually happens. >> some faculty have had invitations to the new kkk delivered to our mailboxes. >> there are moments of fear. i think we all have moments of fear. and there is also that kind of belief that it won't happen to you and then you re-evaluate and realize it could happen to anybody. >> because of what happened over the last month, classes were canceled yesterday and instead students gathered for campus wide demonstration of solidarity. want to bring in sofia bomber, a senior at oberlin college, managing editor of the college paper "the oberlin review". welcome to you. if i may, i want you to put your managing editor hat on for the first question here and you may not be able to tell me a whole heck of a lot, but i have to ask, what are you, what is your paper hearing from campus police as far as who could be behind this? >> i really cannot speculate
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anything about who is behind this. i know that they told us yesterday that the college and the police have investigations going on. but there is really nothing that i can say. it seems unclear to me at this point. >> okay. student hat on. what is the reaction over the past couple of weeks on campus to all of these different hate incidents? >> well, so the events of yesterday were not the first solidarity marches even. we have been finding these different hate speech incidents over the past few weeks. and already a couple weeks ago there was a different sit-in and solidarity march that students organized. and then yesterday i woke up to an e-mail, multiple different e-mails explaining classes had been canceled and that they highly encouraged students to go
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to a teachive in witeach-in, to march and rally and then to a convocation, which had already been scheduled to be tomorrow, wednesday afternoon, but they bumped it up to yesterday after the incidents of early yesterday morning. >> let me ask you this, personally, to you, sofia, given everything happening on campus here, does it anger you? are you saddened? are you in fear? >> so this is something that -- something i've been hearing a lot of on campus is how important it is in this case to acknowledge that every single individual comes at this from a very different place and has different reactions. so i really just want to emphasize this is me, just me, not -- >> that's what i'm asking, just you, just sofia. >> and, yes, i've found it very shocking and surprising.
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i have not actually encountered or seen any of the hate speech, only heard about it or seen pictures that were given, but it does, i do have a strong reaction to that. and see how scary it is. though i know that a lot of people have felt really different emotions or more strong emotions than i have, but i am very surprised and shocked by all of this. >> understandably so. so degree bo sofia bomber, thank you. we have landed the president of oberlin college. he will be joining me next hour about these different hate incidents that sofia was talking about here. high ranking lawmaker caught up in scandal after he's accused of sex with prostitutes. but now one of these women says she made the whole thing up. coming up next, we'll sort through the confusion and tell
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partying with prostitutes whilen a trip to the dominican republic. he vehemently denied that. and now one of the women he was accused of having sex with says she made the whole story up. senator menendez told dana bash, no, he did not do it. take a listen. >> it is amazing to me that anonymous, nameless, faceless individuals on a website can drive that type of story into the mainstream. but that's what they have done successfully. now nobody can find them, nobody ever met them, nobody everybody talked to them but that's where we're at the. so all the smears are absolutely false and that's the bottom line. >> the conservative daily website, conservative website, the daily caller, first reported the allegations, running this video from nameless women who say they had sex with menendez for money. but according to court documents, the 23-year-old escort says she was paid to read
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the whole story off a script. dana bash, our chief congressional correspondent, live with me on capitol hill. so, now the daily caller saying this prostitute isn't one of the two prostitutes they interviewed for the expose, cut throat for me, what is the story? >> the story is that classic he said, she said or she said and we think it is the same she said. with a twist. because so much of this is kind of in the shadows as you saw. the woman initially on the daily caller website, her face was obscured. we don't know who is telling the truth. what we do have is a clue into it because our colleagues at abc news posted a story today saying they too interviewed these women, in tandem, with the daily caller. they decided not to air them because they had doubts about the veracity of the women, which is very interesting. the other interesting twist in their report is that the whole
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appearance was helped and aided by republican operatives. remember this was posted on the daily caller website, a few days effectively before the election day, in november's election, and bob menendez was up for re-election. it is really unclear where there is going, although senator menendez was very eager to talk to the cameras for a change today, because he wanted to say, kind of, i told you so. we should note, however, that this whole salacious discussion about prostitutes is one part of what law enforcement officials say that they are looking into, with regard to menendez. another big part of it, maybe the biggest part of it, allegations that he used his influence to help one of his biggest donors and that is still, we understand, being investigated bit fbi and also here in the senate by the ethics committee. >> that part still under investigation. dana bash on the hill for us. dana, thank you. in most cases the birth of a baby a happy occasion. even when a surrogate is involved. but that is not so for a couple
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in connecticut and their surrogate. this is more like a nightmare. this is a story, this is unreal. you have to stick around. we're talking about it. elizabeth cohen will tell us the story. the panel will react. i want your tweets @brookeb at cnn. everyone's retirement dream is different; how we get there is not. we're americans. we work. we plan. ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. to help you retire your way, with confidence. ♪ that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. let's get to work. ameriprise financial. more within reach.
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girl. >> she got a little girl. >> she got a little girl. >> reporter: was it the girl she wanted? >> no, it wasn't. >> reporter: ultrasounds halfway through kelley's pregnancy showed the baby girl growing inside her had severe heart defects, a brain abnormality and other medical problems. >> they said she had a less than 25% chance of being able to have a normal life. >> reporter: inside hartford hospital in connecticut, the parents, heart broken, asked kelley to have an abortion. >> i refused. i couldn't do it. i was the one who was feeling her kick and squirm. i knew she had a fighting spirit and i wanted to fight for her. >> reporter: but parents pleaded with kelley, genetically this was their baby, she was just carrying her. >> they said they didn't want to bring a baby into the world only for that child to suffer. they said i should try to be god-like and have mercy on the child and let her go. >> reporter: and what did you say? >> i told them that it wasn't their decision to play god.
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>> reporter: strong convictions, but would she betray them for the right price? kelley was a single mom, money was tight. through the surrogacy agency, the parents said they would pay her $10,000 to have an abortion. and when you saw that $10,000 figure, did you think, maybe i'll do it? >> in a weak moment, i asked her to tell them that for $15,000 i would consider going forward with the termination. >> reporter: the parents refused her request and kelley says she quickly regretted asking for the extra money anyways. deep down, she knew she could never abort under any circumstance. once again, they were at a standoff. cnn reached out to the parents. they didn't respond to repeated calls or e-mails and we're not naming them. legally they couldn't force kelley to have an abortion, so
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they proposed if you have this baby, we'll give her up and she'll become a ward of the state. >> i'm not going to let her become one of those forgotten, disabled kids that gets lost in the system. >> reporter: kelley made a bold decision. informing the parents at the last second she left the state, pregnant with their baby. >> packed up my van, with everything i could carry, threw my kids in the car, and we drove for two days to michigan. >> reporter: under michigan law, kelley would be the baby's mother. you were making a decision for a baby that was not genetically yours. >> i can't tell you how many people told me that i was bad, that i was wrong, that i should go have an abortion, that i would be damned to hell. >> reporter: she gave birth last
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june. here is the baby today. she's 8 months old. to protect her privacy, we're not naming her, or the family kelley found to adopt her. along with her cleft lip and palate and misshapen ear, she has severe brain and heart problems. she'll need several risky surgeries to survive. ♪ but in many other ways, she's developed like other babies. she smiles, babbles and grabs for toys. some people would say why bring a child into this world who you know is going to have such huge medical problems. >> i say that it is not fair to not give them a chance to overcome them. >> reporter: what if she doesn't walk, though, what if she doesn't talk? she's still a happy little girl who is going to bring joy into the lives of everyone who knows her. >> reporter: when you see her now, how does that feel? >> it gives me a lot of joy. i know that every single thing i did was worth it. >> what a story. we're going to talk to elizabeth cohen on this.
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before the break, we showed you the story of the surrogate who was offered $10,000 to get an abortion after the biological parents discovered birth defects with their unborn baby. this woman refused. she left that state to another state. she gave birth. the story doesn't end there. first, let me bring in today's hot topics panel. a lot to talk about here. julia allison, entertainment journalist, psychologist wendy walsh, steve helling, john murray, editor in chief of always a-list.com and the woman who did the piece, interviewed the people, elizabeth cohen, our chief medical correspondent. elizabeth, to you in a moment. i want to open this up to the entire panel. julia, let me begin with you. i would love to hear from all of you.
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when you hear from the perspective of the surrogate, crystal kelley, did you think she did the right thing? >> no, i don't. all moral issues aside, crystal kelley signed a legal document that explicitly stated, were there to be abnormalities found in the ultrasound, she would terminate the pregnancy. she's in breach of contract. and that sets a dangerous precedent for future surrogacies, that they can do whatever they want. if she was against abortion, she shouldn't have signed that document. >> interesting you bring up that point. we'll get to elizabeth, she has a take on that. wendy, what do you think? >> actually, the contract didn't define very much what extreme abnormalities were and that's where the exchange came in. but morals aside, the laws need to catch up with fertility medicine. we need to have laws that are clear state by state by state. and the surrogacy contracts need to be more clear and, by the way, the plot thickens because as it turns out, these parents who were parents of the embryo, they had actually used a donor
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egg before they froze that embryo. so there is another mother bo potentially involved in this as well. >> that's the perfect segue to you, elizabeth cohen. this woman, this surrogate goes from connecticut to michigan to have this child, finds parents, we can't say, you can't say where they live, the adoptive parents, but now they're taking care of this little baby. >> right. they have adopted her. so this baby is now living in a family with other adopted children with special needs. and the couple also has biological children with special needs. and i'll tell you, i spent the day with them, lovely family, she looks like she's getting a lot of tender loving care. she is smiling. she is happy. but she also faces an uncertain future. she will need more surgeries on her heart and on -- for other reasons too. and just her medical conditions, she has a shorter than usual life expectancy because of the medical conditions. >> and then the original -- the biological parents are now -- i don't want to say not consistently in the life of this
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child, with -- which they wanted to initially abort, they said this child would have had the life was better, life would have been worse, i should say. they're sort of in the life -- >> they make phone calls, see how the baby is doing, they met the baby, the father has held the baby. they're not in and out of each other's lives, but there is a communication between the two families. >> steve helling, what a story. what do you make of this? >> one thing that makes me a little bit nervous about it was that miss kelley really needed the money. when she really needed the money, she ended up doing something she says she wouldn't normally do, say i will have the abortion if you give me some more money. >> $15,000 instead of $10,000. >> she wanted 15 instead of 10. it makes you wonder about her motivations. you've got to be sure with something so personal as your body when you're signing something that you've thought through the scenarios and it doesn't sound like she 100% did that. >> did you question her motivations? did you ask her about that? >> i did ask her about that. you were willing to abort for
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$15,000. she said ten minutes later she regretted it. she lost a child years before at about the same gestational age, like halfway through the pregnancy and is still mourning that child and she realized she couldn't mourn a second child. she says she asked for 15 and immediately regretted it. >> it is a stunning story. i encourage every one of you to read it. go cnn.com, read the entire sort of chronology and where it stands now. thank you for sharing the story. don't go anywhere. this next one, this is no laughing matter. did a popular tv show go too far by airing a so-called joke about native americans? i know i didn't get to you, jawn murray. you're up next. than ever. and more ire mmm... [ ding ] [ moaning ] [ male announcer ] with herbal botanicals of rose hips and chamomile. and with no silicone or sulfates, you'll fall in love with your hair... yes! yes! yes! [ male announcer ] ...all over again. yes! [ male announcer ] it's an experience... everyone will be asking for.
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whether . when it comes to sit cocom jokes, almost anyone is fair game. >> who the hell said i'm moving to arizona? >> captain didn't mention that, huh? >> you ever been to arizona? it is just a furnace full of drunk indians. >> really? that's not what it says on their license plate. >> that joke about drunk indians not going over so well with the native american group navajo nation. here is part of the statement they gave the daily times of new mexico.
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alcoholism isn't funny. it isn't pretty. it is sickening. it is awful. that statement went on to say an apology from cbs may not be enough because the joke was beyond offensive. let me tell you, cnn picking up the phone, we reached out to cbs and navajo nation about this joke. and we have not received a response from either group. jawn murray, begin with this one here. did the joke go too far? >> brooke, i don't think so. here is a news flash. peggy, the character on the show of "mike & molly," she's an equal opportunity racist. where is our sense of humor in america? this week is "mike & molly," last week it was joan rivers and the jewish joke. we have to get a sense of humor. this whole uber sensitive nature we have and all the so-called advocacy groups mad about everything, it has got to stop. >> i know you bring up joan rivers. we talked about that last week. you're right. we have the discussion, we can have it again. are we becoming too sensitive?
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at the same time, you know, look, the two main characters met at overeaters anonymous. is it fair to say some groups you can poke fun at and some you just don't go there? >> we're in this climate now where even the comedians have to be really careful and they have to temper their set because there is all this backlash for just trying to be funny. >> isn't that the point, wendy walsh, of being a comedian? isn't the point to offend and garner some kind of reaction? whatever the reaction may be? >> the psychology of it is this, freud said comedy and humor is one of the best defenses against suffering. all comedy is tragedy viewed from across the street. i'm sure there is a very angry chicken out there who is mad about all the slurs when he crossed the road. i didn't happen to like the gay
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man choir singing at academy awards about we saw your boobs because oi'm a woman. it is a way we're able to lighten up tragedy and have a moment of common healing through it. and, yes, this group has a right to be upset like the chicken has the right to be upset. >> julia, you're nodding. why? >> i totally agree. if you look at it, if you spend all your time complaining and writing letters and none of your time fixing the problem, you know, this is where you're at. i think just, you know, laugh about it and if you don't think it is funny, go fix the problem. >> click. turn the channel. i know that's what a lot of people say. coming up, we'll talk football. top quarterback in the nfl signed a huge contract, as in ka-ching, huge. $120 million, six years. is any athlete worth that amount of money? we're going to debate that one after this. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets.
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baltimore ravens quarterback joe flacco living the good life. he went out and played his best football during the nfl playoffs, capping off with a super bowl victory. and the mvp award. well, now it seems all that hard work paid off. he's just signed the most lucrative contract in all of nfl history. six years, a cool 120 million bucks. joe flacco, you're now the highest paid qb in the league. you got to splurge, right? what do you to with all the
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money? how do you celebrate? golden acrches, baby. drive through worker snapped this picture of flacco hours after signing this ginormous contract, got posted to twitter. i guess, the guy's got to eat when he's hungry. let me bring my panel back in. steve, mcnuggets aside, i don't want to debate here whether he deserves this $120 million contract, but does it surprise you that he inked this kind of deal? >> no, it doesn't surprise me at all. you think that the nfl made $2 billion, that's billion with a b, on the super bowl alone, then you see why they're paying their stars the type of money they're paying them. for the record, i would go to mcdonald's too. i love me in mcnuggets. >> julia, what do you think? hardly a household name presuper bowl, there are other quarterbacks even more elite, if you will. what do you think? >> i loved his quotes.
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he said, i'm worth what i'm worth and i bring to the table what i bring to the table. so aside from the circular yogi berra-esque quotes, he seems to bring to the table some pretty impressive self-esteem. he said if he didn't get this much money, he would feel the team didn't respect him. i'm not sure money is a good gauge of respect. how you treat other people, how you conduct yourself as a human being, that's what makes people respect you. i respect olympic athletes who have achieved incredible feats being super human. i don't know how much money they're making. it doesn't matter to me. >> how does one's mind set change? he seems like a pretty good guy, the interview i saw with him after the super bowl, has another kid on the way, here he is, his work spoke for him. when you sign a deal, i know in the nfl, not a guaranteed contract, when you sign for $120 million, how does your mind set change? >> well, you enter that elite world, that private club, that land of no-nos where you can have whatever you want and sometimes that affects people's
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morals. but i'm actually disgusted by this. it underscores the terrible values in america that say, you know, just do sports, just win a beauty pageant, win an academy award. you don't need to get educated. i happen to be dual citizen, canadian, there is no thing as a sports scholarships, only academic scholarships. if this guy wants to do well in our eyes now, give half the money and put it back into education. just saying. >> that was a whole lot she just said. i'll say this, he's worth it, he deserves it. if the ravens can afford it, clearly they're paying it. i don't know if going to mcdonald's will keep him in game shape. he may want to watch the mickey d's and get on the field. but we do know that two years after most nfl stars leave the nfl, they end up either bankrupt or having financial problems. so i hope he has a good financial planner because otherwise the headline, highest paid nfl player goes broke will
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be a bigger story than this will ever be. >> and the people, you're tom brady taking the pay cuts. who knows which way the nfl will go in the coming years. they make a lost money and people love watching their football, whatever the cost, of the tickets as they go up and up and up, perhaps to play for the players. thank you to all of you. appreciate it. coming up, outrage after a nurse refuses to give cpr to a woman who eventually dies. the nurse says it was her company's policy. she couldn't step in and do this. there is now word, though that charges could be filed. we're on the case. ♪ featuring a stunning work of technology -- ♪ the lexus es. ♪ this is a reason to look twice. get great values on your favorite lexus models during the command performance sales event.
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let's get started at capella.edu. folks in one famous college town on edge after a string of racist behavior, a prankster or something bigger? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. the dow on the verge of closing at a record high, we're watching. plus, snipers targeting giant rats in a battle against mutant rodents. and new information on the drone a pilot spotted in the skies above new york.
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here we go, top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. the stock market on a tear today in this final hour of trading. dow jones industrial average smashed through an old record to reach a new high, topping records that were set back in 2007. sounds like great news for all of us, right? not so fast. why this disconnect between what is going on in the markets and wall street and i know what a lot of you are feeling on main street. our chief business correspondent ali velshi here to explain. ali, should we celebrate or not so much? >> last time the dow hit a record, people were talking about it all the time. felt good. the economy felt pretty strong too. let me show you what it looks like right now. we have got -- that's the weirdest thing in the world, i'm looking at myself and you and me in a million different ways. the dow on the streen, creen son look at it. the dow is up 1% today. a lot of people saying the
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economy doesn't feel that way. a lot of this has to do with interest rates. the dow on march 9th, 2009, at 6500, the low after the recession, after the financial crisis. the recession formally ended in june of 2009. you see from there, markets are going up. in october of 2009, unemployment hit 10%. markets kept on going largely higher. sometime in the middle of 2010 it fell down again. you sty wee it was working its up. this was qe 2 as you remember it. then the markets kept going up in 2011, dropped again, this was the debt downgrade over here. you'll remember that. that's what it did to the markets over here. then you see it goes up again into 2012, this was qe 3 when the fed put more stimulus in. and we get ourselves up above 14,000 now. look at this. this is what most people think of as the economy. job creation. you feel good when jobs are
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created. back in the beginning of 2009, losing 800,000 jobs first few months. this started to look really good. these jobs here are from the census. that's why we saw this peak. then once the census hiring was done, we saw unemployment drop again. and this is the problem. jobs have been doing this while the market has been doing that. that's where the disconnect comes in. the reason the markets are doing better than the economy is doing is because of interest rates. they have been so low, that there aren't a lot of different ways to make money. so people put their money into the stock market, brooke. make money in a house possibly, but that's long-term money, you have to have a big down payment. no money in the bank. bond funds are suffering. so everybody is going to the stock market. >> we note dow is an average of two dozen plus companies, that's different from where we were at the last closing high, 5 1/2 years ago. for now, which companies have done the best? >> big gainers. if you invest in it, the bottom
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of the market, in the beginning of 2009, it will be rocky, it ended up being march. look what you would have done if you had american express stock. 491% higher. home depot, 286%. caterpillar, 275%. walt disney, 257%. general electric, 214%. in 2009, you would have done well. 2010, 2012, so far, we were expecting it to gain maybe six, maybe more. so just tells you nied to understand how to diversify your money and put it into the symptom market to get it wostoc market and get it working for you. the dow was 6500 in march of 2009. 14,263 now, brooke. >> makes you think, gosh, had i gotten in on some of the companies a couple of years go, ali velshi, thank you. a story has a lot of you talking, asking questions. we have elderly ones we love here in homes in america, just a
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short time ago, we learned police may be pursuing charges in the case of that nurse who refused to give cpr to a dying woman. here is the story. woman stops breathing at a retirement home in california called glenwood gardens. none of the staff, none of those in the loop here, was willing to save her. why? it is against the rules. you heard me right. no cpr at glenwood gardens in bakersfield. this woman was lying there, unconscious, in the dining room. she was still breathing. and despite the valiant efforts from this 911 dispatcher, she died. take a listen. >> i understand if your facility is not willing to do that. give the phone to that passerby, that stranger that -- this woman is not breathing enough. she's going to die if we don't get this started. do you understand? >> i understand. i am a nurse. but i cannot have our other senior citizens who don't know cpr -- >> i will instruct. is there any -- i will instruct
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them. is there anyone there. >> i cannot do that. >> i don't understand why you're not willing to help this patient. >> i am. >> okay, great, i'll walk you through it all. ems takes the liability for this [ bleep ]. i'm happy to help you. this is ems protocol, okay? >> can you get -- right away. i don't know where he is, but she's yelling at me and saying we have to have one of our other residents perform cpr. and she'll instruct. and i'm not going to do that, and make that call. >> is there anybody that works there that's willing to do it? >> we can't -- >> we're just going to wait and let this lady die? >> that's why we're calling 911. >> we can't wait. she can't wait right now. she's stopping breathing. she can't wait for them to get. >> he's saying we don't. so you can talk to my boss and i don't -- >> okay. they're refusing cpr. they're going to let her die. >> i can hear you. it is infuriating listening to this phone call.
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miguel marquez live for me. tell me about possible charges. what could this nurse face? >> well, it is not clear who would face the charges. the nurse or somebody with the home itself, the independent living facility itself. bakersfield police only saying they're talking to everybody involved in the case and in the coming days they may be able to make a decision as to whether or not charges would be brought. what they are looking at is the possibility of elderly abuse charges. now, glenwood gardens does say that nurse followed protocol, by the way, she was not hired to be a nurse as the facility, she was hired to be a director there. so she wasn't fulfilling a nurse's capacity. but it would seem logical that anybody would step in and help out obviously, which is why everybody seemed so frustrated with this. they do say she followed protocol, that is to call 911 if any residents have a problem. they did that. they stayed with her. 911 came and unfortunate she died. they passed on their condolences to the family but that is the protocol, that people sign up for when they come into this
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place. i spoke to a firefighter yesterday. 21 years he served there, went to many calls at this particular facility, said it wasn't just cpr, it was things like guys falling out of a bed, a world war ii veteran that fell out of his bed and they wouldn't pick him up and put him in his bed, he served in the great war and couldn't get a lift up. so it is that policy that they'll be looking at. it may cause -- force changes across the board at some point, but at this point, glenwood gardens says they're conducting an internal review and police are looking at possible charges. >> makes you wonder how many homes in this country has these kinds of policies for any of us who have loved ones in homes like this. miguel marquez, thank you so much. and if you go by the calendar, spring hits two weeks from tomorrow, but don't tell that to chicago. and don't tell that to ted rowlands standing by in the snow in chicago. we're hearing this could be the biggest snow of the year. we checked in last hour with our colleague jennifer delgado.
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how is it looking? >> reporter: well, as jennifer delgado had predicted, the wind started to pick up. you can see the flags are moving quickly. it is getting more and more miserable. brooke, i hope you're right, real spring is coming in the next couple of weeks. it has been snowing all day long here. people are fairly miserable, walking around chicago. that lady looks happy. most people we talked to, though, are very, very ready for spring to happen. this is not only in chicago, of course. this is hitting the midwest, minneapolis, north dakota, getting in excess of a foot of snow and this system is heading east. they're expecting more snow here throughout the evening. the evening commute is going to be horrible. we were out at o'hare airport. over 800 flights canceled there. they're packing people in there and hoping to get them out in the days to come. but this has been a recurring story over the last few weeks. midwesterners are over. hopefully this will be over soon. >> hopefully. they say spring is in two weeks
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allegedly. we have a good hearty crew and hearty folks in chicago who can cover this one. ted rowlands, thank you so much. and we have certain someone on our team, our veteran copy editor walt smith. he remembers this. campaign '92. do you remember this? george h.w. bush talking about his opponent, bill clinton, and al gore. bozos. >> they criticized our country and say we're less than germany and slightly better than sri lanka. my dog milli knows more about foreign affairs than these two bozos. >> and then he says we are bozos. let me tell you something, folks, at least bozo makes people laugh. bush makes people cry. we're going to laugh -- >> so bush 41 and bill clinton, not a whole lot of lost love there. but now, some 20 years later, look at them. they have worked together so much, they have become so close that a friend of the bush family
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says the bush kids are practically jealous. here is bush one on bill clinton. this is a letter he wrote to his kids in 2005. you cannot get mad at the guy. i admit to wondering why he can't stay on time, but he has opinions on everything. no matter what. he seems to have a great grasp of history's events and people. that letter is taken from bush one's new book "all the best, george bush: my life and letters and other writings." gloria borger, our chief political analyst, you like the videos from the vault here at cnn. >> i do. >> these days, the clintons and bushes are as close to royalty really as we have here in this country. is there a lesson perhaps in the respect of these former rivals have developed for each other? >> well, you know, they're kind of members of a pretty exclusive club. and mike duffy and nancy gibbs have written a book on it called "the presidents' club." and what i think you're seeing in the letters from former
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president bush is a real respect for another member of that club, bill clinton, with whom he's done a lot of great work. and it just shows you that these folks can be really arch rivals, but when they look back at history, they kind of decide that there are certain things that are bigger than their own personal political rivalries of the past. and that's what these two gentlemen have done. but i have to say, this tells you an awful lot about former president bush himself, because he couldn't be more different from bill clinton. one other thing i loved in these letters was that he said, you know, in grade school there used to be a place in our old report cards that said claims more than his fair share of time and attention in the classroom, and said, well, you know, that would be bill clinton. but you got to love him. >> here is the funny thing, though. because come 2016, we very well might, might, might, might see bush versus clinton two.
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jeb bush, hillary clinton, as it happens, jake tapper talked today with jeb bush and he says he has to answer some questions before he will actually commit to running. here's one of the questions. >> do i think that somehow i have a unique perspective that, you know, might be different, you know, that the skills i have might be useful going forward in terms of leadership? i don't know. i haven't thought about that. there are a lot of other really good people that i admire a lot. >> gloria, jeb bush versus hillary clinton. would that be a good thing? >> oh, my god. >> a lot of bushes and clintons these days. >> aren't there any other families in american politics? >> apparently not. >> apparently not. when hillary clinton ran, there was a lot of what was called bush fatigue if you'll recall in the country. one of the reasons that i think jeb bush decided not to run this last time was that he thought there was still bush fatigue in this country. so the question is, if you skip ahead, four more years, will
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there be still bush fatigue and clinton fatigue? we just don't know. but i think it is actually a real possibility that you could see these two people going head to head. >> makes for a fun story line. >> we'll be there. >> many a matter of years. see you there, 2016. gloria borger, thank you. we talked about jake tapper and his interview. don't miss it, "situation room" today 4:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. up next, news on everything and everyone, including why the life expectancy of women is down. plus, hugo chavez fighting for his life and his number two making accusations today against the u.s. and the white house weighs in on the battle over your cell phone. and the most powerful gun group in america is going nascar. the power block is next. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually
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business, health, science and showbiz news. we're hitting it all in the power block, beginning with this. ♪ hey, i just met you this is crazy here's my number so call me maybe ♪ >> file that in the song that is going to be stuck in your head the rest of the day. she tells the boy scouts of america, don't call me at all. the singer is pulling out of performing at the boy scouts annual jamboree because of their ban on gay scouts and scout leaders. s no reaction from the boy scouts themselves. steven spielberg spokesman marvin levy confirms that the director is developing the late stanley kubrick's unproduced napoleon screenplay as a television miniseries. he discussed this on sunday saying, quote, this is going to be more about the motion picture, the life of napoleon here, and we will check in to see what happens with napoleon. ikea now bringing its style and budget approach to the hotel
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business. the furniture store is teaming up with marriott to build a hotel chain across europe. hotels will be named moxie. they're designed to appeal to a younger crowd who want style at a budget price. top price, $110 per night. the first moxie set to open in milan, italy, early next year. and there was a new player in the fight to take your cell phone with you when you contract with your carrier. when that whole thing runs out. this is the white house here. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. why is the white house getting into the battle of unlocking your phone, first of all? >> so the white house, brooke, took notice of this after a petition posted on its website which has more than 100,000 signatures. so the way it is now, you always have been able to keep your phone number when you, let's say, go frommer have risen to at -- verizon to at&t but keeping the physical device hasn't been an option because most cell phones are locked and because of a ruling last year by the u.s.
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copy right office, it is illegal for consumers to unlock phones without getting authorization for it. if you try to do it, you can face a half million dollar penalty and five years in prison. pretty crazy. the white house and the fcc agree they want this law overturned so consumers can have more freedom to switch carriers and for all their phones to become unlockable when the contracts are up. the wireless carriers think it is much ado about nothing. at&t says it is always been willing to unlock devices once you fulfilled terms of the service agreement you had with them and most other carriers had similar policies. it is not certain, brooke, how this push toward unlocking is going to wind up playing out. but it doesn't hurt to have the white house as an ally on the issue. >> not a bad ally at all. alison kosik, thank you. you will never guess who dominated an impromptu doubles tennis match last night in madison square garden. grand slam champ rafael nadal pulled actor ben stiller out of the stands during an exhibition match here, opening up for the
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oppone opponent, rebecca soares, she returned every shot from nadal to stiller. look at her go. back and forth. little sports advice for ben stiller, go back to dodge ball. go back to dodge ball. maybe it is fitting that the nra is sponsoring a nascar race next month. the national rival association bought the naming rights to a nascar race before. but this is the first top level sprint cup race to carry the organization's name. this announcement comes as the rifle association is ramping up its campaign against gun control proposals in washington. it is a cease-fire that ended the korean war. a war considered one of the deadliest in u.s. history. it has held for 60 years. north korea is at it again, vowing to cancel the truce. and as their anger grows towards the united states, and the push for u.n. sanctions over recent
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nuclear tests. >> translator: we need to use all our power and destroy the u.s. and other enemy forces and to unite our country. in this way we can follow our dear leader's wish. we should use this opportunity to really break u.s. confidence and unite our country. >> translator: we are the peacekeeping people army. if the u.s. tries to light any small fire in our territory, we will use this as an opportunity to unite the country. we will do our best to achieve what our supreme commander kim jong-un wants, no matter what the u.s. says. victory is ours. >> adding to the situation here, ongoing joint military drills between the u.s. and close ally south korea. the south and the north still technically in a state of war. more than 28,000 u.s. soldiers are currently stationed in south korea. to venezuela now. allegations of u.s. involvement in a conspiracy. so in this lengthy address to the nation, earlier today,
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venezuela's vice president says he has clues that the u.s. is plotting against venezuela. this theory leading to the ejection of a u.s. diplomat from the country, supposedly within 24 hours. by the way, the u.s. denying that claim. let's go to shasta darlington. what are they basing this conspiracy that the u.s. and other so-called enemies are trying to destabilize venezuela? >> reporter: well, brooke, i mean, he didn't give a whole lot of concrete clues. it was a very bizarre press conference. you have to look at the context more than anything. this is coming right on the heels of an announcement here on national television that hugo chavez's health has taken a turn for the worse. so the government announced that the man currently in charge, vice president nicholas maluro was meeting with top military leaders and naturally most venezuelans expected them to come out and talk a bit more about what was going on with
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president hugo chavis. instead, they came out with this story. and you get the sensation that they're trying to drum up support, circle the wagons, get all of these very fervent chavez supporters behind them at a time in which they already announced that his health is in a very delicate situation. so light on the details of the plot that this attache was allegedly involved in. and a lot more sort of fire brand speech, brooke. >> shasta darlington in caracas. thank you. to tehran, iran, a war is being plagued against giant rats. i saw this picture, i thought it was photo shopped. it is not. a team of snipers has been called in to hunt the cat-sized rodents at night. so far more than 2,000 rats have been caught and tehran is hoping to have 40 teams of sharpshooters on the hunt by the end of the year. rats in iran.
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a disturbing trend uncovered by researchers. a growing number of women are dying at younger ages. the death rate here for women, 75 and younger, is up. and nearly half the country's -- counties in the united states, experts don't know why. the study released today in the journal of health affairs found that women, most affected by declining life expectancy, are disadvantaged, they're white, they live in rural areas, both in the south and the west. overall, a baby girl born today can expect to live to be 81. the average life span for a boy is 76. a series of incidents in oberlin college in ohio have the student body and faculty there on alert. fearful, angry. after someone reported spotting a person wearing an outfit resembling the ku klux klan near the college's african heritage house. we're going to talk live to the president of oberlin college next.
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women. and this community here in ohio boasts the legacy of inclusion and respect for diversity. but that is far from what students here have been feeling in the wake of 15 hate-related events in the past month, targeting african-americans and gays. they include a sign proclaiming whites only, swastika drawn on a building, reports of someone wearing kkk robing. but the most recent event, that was the last straw. >> as i was in the car, i saw someone in what seemed to be kkk paraphernalia walking on a pathway, a pathway that leads to south campus. and seeing them, having it sink in like this is something that is real that actually happens. >> some faculty have had invitations to the new kkk delivered to our mailboxes. >> there are moments of fear. i think we all have moments of fear. and then there is also that kind of belief it won't happen to you. and then you re-evaluate and realize it can happen to
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anybody. >> classes were canceled yesterday. instead students got together for campus wide demonstrations of solidarity. i want to bring many marvin. let me begin with what we have gotten here at cnn, that police in oberlin, they have told us at cnn that they have identified two students involved in some of these incidents. can you corroborate that with me? >> good afternoon. it is great to talk to you. i'm not able to talk about the details of the investigation. but i can tell you that we are taking it very seriously and it continues. >> can you tell me if these people perhaps involved that you're hearing are students? can you at least confirm that? >> you know, i'm really not able to talk about the details of the investigation. it is a law enforcement matter. and we're cooperating with various law enforcement agents on this.
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>> okay. mr. krislov, how in the world, in this last month, the multiple incidents now, over a dozen incidents of hate, how are students, how are faculty reacting on your tight knit campus in ohio? >> well, i think that yesterday was a very important day for us. it was an educational moment where we took time off from our normal classes to have special classes, especially discussions about how we're feeling, but also the role of race and religion and other issues about the way we relate to each other. and i think that what i'm hearing from students and faculty and staff today is they feel very inspired. they feel inspired because this institution has the courage to talk about these issues and to confront concerns and that that is part of our educational mission. >> why, with all of these incidents happening over the course of a month, why yesterday be the first day that classes
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are canceled? >> well, suspending formal classes is very unusual as you can imagine. >> are those protesters? what is that behind you, sir? can you explain? >> i gather there is some students yelling behind me. >> some students yelling behind you. can you continue on? >> i can't make out what they're shouting. would you like me to -- >> this is very hard to -- >> okay, let's just call it. >> i think we're done, thank you. >> let's call it. thank you. >> that was the president, marvin krislov, some students toward the end there, we could see them yelling behind him, not sure what they were saying. neverthele
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nevertheless, perhaps they're investigating students as part of the investigation. jodi arias gets ready to take the stand any moment. the jury will be allowed to ask her questions. the jurors very soon. what kind of questions will they ask? legal experts weighing in next. [ kitt ] you know what's impressive? a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying, while using less fuel. delivering whatever the world needs, when it needs it. ♪ after all, what's the point of talking
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well, it will be soon, we soon have the head of the cia here, john brennan. there has been back and forth on his confirmation now looking at my e-mail, looks like the senate intelligence committee voted - 12-3 to approve him as chief of the cia. the next step, full approval by the u.s. senate for that to move on. he's the president's pick for that position in the cia. the murder trial of jodi arias is resuming this hour in phoenix, arizona. arias, once again, answering questions from her attorney, kirk nurmi. no getting around it. a lot of questions about her steamy sex life with travis alexander. her ex-boyfriend, the man she
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admits to killing in self-defense, she says. 27 stab wounds, slash to the throat, one bullet to the head. we're going to pick it up live here in a moment. first, here is a snippet from just this morning. >> when he grabbed your arm and bent you over the desk on june 4th, 2008, and had sex with you, did you view that as a mistake? >> no. >> how did you view that? >> just by then we were engaging in all kinds of activities without any boundaries and so it was just something he wanted to do and something i was fine with. it was a way for him to release his anger. >> a way for what? >> for him to relieve his anger. >> you were fine with it because it was an alternative to violence? >> objection, leading. >> is that what you're telling
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us? are you telling us that this was an alternative to anger? >> yes, to it escalating. >> sunny hostin, former federal prosecutor, cnn legal analyst for me in new york. and holly hughes, ladies, welcome back. sunny hostin, let me begin with you. perhaps in that part of the back and forth we heard, maybe the point is they're trying to make that jodi arias was willing to have sex with her ex-boyfriend, shortly before she killed him, to ease his anger. they're saying that didn't work. so later she had to kill him in self-defense because if she didn't, she feared he would kill her. what would the prosecution say to that? >> you know, i got to tell you, i don't know what the prosecution would say. if i were the prosecutor in this case, i would be so frustrated because at this point we're talking about this steamy sex life, which, by the way, she has admitted was consensual, rather than talking about the issue at
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hand, which is whether or not she murdered him or whether or not this was self-defense. i've got to tell you, while it is steamy and salacious and we're all talking about it, i don't get this defense. i don't understand how this rehabilitates her to discuss this sex life that she had, consensual sex life she had, with travis alexander. maybe holly hughes as a defense attorney can explain it to me. because i don't get it. >> criminal defense attorney in the studio right now. she can't make sense of it. >> oh, yeah. >> can you? >> thanks, sunny, for putting me on the spot like that. appreciate it. but what he's going for here is, again, it is unusual, brooke, because this is not the typical battered woman defense we see raised. when we think of a battered woman, we think someone physically, repeatedly assaulted. now admittedly they're throwing in on or two accusations of domestic violence. he shoved her to the ground, what they are really trying to focus on is an emotional abuse
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and hope that rolled up with those two accusations or three accusations that he was physically violent with her, that will amount to her having a reasonable fear, because that's what the jury will have to do, they'll have to interpret what was in the mind of jodi arias at the time that she killed him and was it reasonable to think that this man was going to kill her if she didn't get to him first. >> talking about the jury's interpretation and we're waiting and watching for them to be back up in the jodi arias trial. i want to talk about the jury and the fact that they here in this case, in arizona, can ask questions of her themselves. is this a maricopa county thing, an arizona thing? >> this is an arizona thing. there is only five states in the entire nation that allow the jury to do this. and it is fascinating because, you know, the folks -- they're regular folks. they want to know the truth. that's why they're sitting there, serving for nine weeks, ten weeks, giving up all this time of their life, their job, their family time.
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so when they get to ask questions, they're not necessarily going to award them in a legally admissible way, the attorneys will get together with the judge, they'll decide what is permissible to ask, and the jury is really -- they're going to surprise us, they're going to come up with some fantastic questions which we lawyers are thinking, wow, we should have probably asked that, one of us should have posed that question. they're just going to be common sense, brooke. they're going to want to know why would you go back to this man, you're claiming he's a pedophile, he beat you. why would you -- flat out answer the question. >> isn't it also known, not only how she -- it is the answer she provides to these jurors, but how she provides the answers because we saw her in that back and forth on cross, with the prosecutor, juan martinez, right. that was some people say he was quite bullyish, pit bull, but in the way she reacted, but she can't react that way when asked questions from the jurors, can she? >> i think that's right. she can't be evasive. she can't be aggressive with them. i got to tell you what is so
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fantastic about arizona allowing these jurors questions is that you get to sort of peek into the minds of the jurors and figure out how they're processing it. as an attorney, i actually think it is a gift when you have a jury that can ask questions. where i practiced, they didn't ask questions, so you sort of spent a lot of your time trying to guess at -- as to what the he cans in their minds were, because the worst thing you have, the worst situation as an attorney is those jurors go back into that jury room, brooke, and they have questions that you failed to answer. and so now we know what the questions are. so i actually think more states should allow jurors to ask questions. >> this defense team has to probably think of every single possible question she could be asked and be prepped for it. ladies, stand by. we're awaiting the return from recess of the jodi arias trial unfolding. she's accused of first degree murder. if convicted, she faces the death penalty. back in just a moment. your keys in the car, geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7.
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now, just for the record, the comparison related to exhibit 237013, comparing this now to 237012, and looking at the times, you had 20 military time being 20:53 and 24 seconds as to the receipt on your left, correct? >> correct. >> and about a minute and a half later or so you had put more gas or you had purchased more gas, correct? the one receipt on the right,
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looking at 20:54:52? >> i can't quite see the time on the right. >> objection. lack of foundation. you can ask -- there's two times listed on each of the receipts. it hasn't been established as to which one is the one she used to put in the gas. >> state your next question. >> miss arias, maybe i'll do it this way so you can see it a little better so there's no confusion. >> i apologize. i couldn't see the left and right so i apologize. i can see it. >> you see it, right? >> yes. >> now, these receipts, these two here, the receipts that are of similar in nature -- now i'm going to have to zoom back
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out -- these two receipts that are of a similar nature, this is also after -- after over ten gallons of gas, right? >> yes. in total, yes. >> so we have 2.7 gallons and we have 9.6 gallons, roughly, so, again, we would have a situation where if this would have gone into a gas can, the third gas can, you just for whatever reason would have put very little in it, right? >> the two gallons, yes. it's nonsensical. >> okay. when you had filled -- you mentioned a couple different occasions when you filled your
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car with gas and you mentioned -- i want to make sure i've got -- desert sky? >> desert center. >> and also you've mentioned filling up gas, right? >> yes, at the shell. >> okay. now, if you remember -- do you remember the quantity of that gas, the -- closer to the equivalence of the 13 gallons we see here? >> it was -- it was around that, yes, each time. >> so it might be a safer bet that this gas went into the car? these receipts? >> objection. speculation. >> sustained. >> do you believe then, looking at this receipt from 2053 that
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this is more likely to have gone in your ford focus rental car? >> objection. speculation. she doesn't know. >> sustained. >> do you see it likely, to your recollection, that you would have filled up one source of gas at 8:43 p.m., put more gas in at 20:53 and bearing in mind now, miss arias, and if you had that third gas can, that would be a good 16 gallons worth, right? >> yes. >> over 16 gallons.
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so that couldn't have gone into any gas cans even if you had this third gas can, correct? >> that's correct. >> objection. speculation. >> overruled. >> okay. so going back to my question, then, do you believe that you would have filled one source, came back and ten minutes later thought that you could have put $40 into the gas cans after putting 8.43 gallons into them? >> objection. speculation. she can tell us what she did. he's asking her to speculate. >> sustained. restate your question. >> having filled -- if the first one, the first receipt were to be the gas cans and you put in $34 to fill both gas cans, would
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it make sense to you that you would put $40 worth of gas, tried to put that into the remaining gas can? >> objection. speculation. >> overruled. you may answer. >> no, that makes no sense. >> bringing back -- removing exhibit 237001 and now including 2370013, does it make more sense -- >> so we've been watching the last couple of minutes after recess, jodi arias day 15 taking the stand accused of first-degree murder of her ex-boyfriend, travis alexander. we'll continue to watch that. members of the jury can ask questions all along the way. very rare in the state. coming up, wolf blitzer on the other side of the break, today could be the day that we
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