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an extraordinary documentary called "bully" captured something we hear but very rarely see. how kids treat each other. really treat each other when adults aren't around. the film maker, lee hirsch spent a year embedded in schools, and what he saw, so eye-opening oh, it raised alarm bells about how critical and dangerous the problem of bullying has become. but something else also happened. in the year since "bully" was released, they have gone on profound journeys and undergone profound transformations. we spent the last year documenting those journeys and
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you'll see them tonight. you don't have to see "bully" to understand the plight of the characters in it. but after tonight, you might just want to. i want to warn you, some of what you'll see and hear tonight is disturbing but we think it's important that you see it and hear it because it will help you understand what kids out there are really facing. so in partnership with the cartoon network, here is "the bully effect." ♪ >> by sharing his story, alex has given a voice to the millions of kids who suffer in silence. let's show him our love, our gratitude. please give a big welcome to alex libby. [cheers and applause ]
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>> let me talk to you about -- about bullying and what i went through and what many people go through. most of the shy kids out there, they are afraid that they'll get picked on if they actually show who they really are. being me, i learned that it wasn't me. it was them. [cheers and applause ] >> they punched me in the jaw, strangle me, knocked things out of my hand, took things from me, sit on me.
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>> bitch! >> everything that happened to me on that bus happened every day, if not worse. some of them i grew up with but they turned on me because they didn't want to get bullied. >> hey, you're my buddy, okay? >> i'm not your buddy. i will stick a broomstick up your ass. know what i'm saying? i'll cut your face off. >> okay. >> yeah, i know what you're saying. >> i laughed about it because i wanted a friend and strangely enough, you know, if my smile was going to make me feel better and continue throughout these years of bullying, then that's what i did every day.
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i really didn't feel anything. i didn't feel the pain that i endured. i didn't feel like i cared about anything anymore. i didn't feel any emotion whatsoever. i felt depression. that was it. >> i had a huge fear because alex has always been the type to act and i would lay up with my husband at night and, you know, i would just cry and say, what if he decides he doesn't want to be here anymore. i mean, at that point there was really only one more way for him to disengage. he was failing out of school. he wasn't involved with the family at all. he didn't have any friends. he was fading and we just couldn't bring him back. and enter lee.
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>> we were going to film in this middle school for the year. and it was actually the first day of school and we saw alex by himself. the way the world was moving by him and not noticing him and he looked so sad. no one cared. and i thought that this might be a kid that's experiencing bullying. i was able to share with him that, you know, i had gone through that and how hard it was to talk about. i think that really gave him a lot of courage.
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[ applause ] >> so i was bullied a lot. the particular thing that was really terrifying for me was getting home from school. i didn't take a bus. i had to walk and i was trying to find a route like where i wouldn't get beat up. i got punched so much that i didn't have black and blue marks. my arms were just like this permanent shade of yellow and the thing that i really carried into making this film was just how difficult it was to really explain what was happening. >> crazy. this is the middle school that i went to. this was a place where i had a etty tough time. it was very difficult to talk to my father about it. my dad fought in world war ii and he was just this really tough guy whose response was, you know, just man up. don't be a pussy, basically, and that was very, very difficult because you stop going for help.
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you give up. we had this idea that if we could get 1 million kids to see the film and their educators and their parents and the community, that that would create an undeniable ripple. and that that would be very much like a tipping point in our country. it was kind of a bold idea. it was a huge number and a lot of people thought, you know, you're crazy but generally like when people go you're crazy, then i think i'm on to something good.
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my wife and i, we plan on fighting bullying forever because our boy, he's going to be 11 years old forever. p is ine square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4.99. it's an epic breakfast sandwich. [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ]
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the ones who are left behind? >> one month and seven days after ty killed himself, it was on father's day, i couldn't sleep and that day just loomed and loomed on the horizon and when it finally came, i just -- i knew i had to do something. and so i made a promise to ty on that day that i was going to stop bullying in this world. i don't break promises. this is world headquarters. "stand for the silent" was originally started by 68 high school kids.
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they heard about what happened to ty and so me and the kids, we sat and we talked and we decided that we were going to tackle bullying across the world. one day i did three school presentations. and on that day, there was a young man that killed himself in oklahoma city. and it broke my heart because i just knew that if i had done four presentations and that fourth one would have been at his school, i might have made a difference in that young man's decision. we take it personal. every child that does this, it's one of ours. >> these are some things some kids have done for us. they're awesome. they've all connected with ty. they post on his wall, i wish i could have known you. we would have been best friends. >> i would give this whole world
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and everything in it my own life if i could put my baby back in his mama's arms for five minutes. just one more time. this is just some pictures of ty, laura and i. ty was a good kid. he wasn't an angel. he was our angel. he was always trying to make a good impression on somebody else's day, just make them have a better day, do whatever he had to to make you smile, you know. but he was too small. he was just real little for his age and that put a big target on him.
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i think that our boy would be proud of me. i think i feel him with me when i'm talking to these kids. you're not supposed to bury your kids. i know for a fact that there is a reason that we were put on this path no matter whether we want to be here or not. we're not doing it for ty. we're doing it for all the other kids out there. 5:30 in the morning and we are headed to chelsea, oklahoma, two presentations for i stand for
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silent and then to the high school. as of yesterday, we have talked to 521 schools across the world. we've talked to a little over 618,000 kids. we don't charge to go in to a presentation or a school. we never will. sometimes schools will make a donation. we've been so busy trying to keep other kids from taking their own lives. >> how many of you in here right now have ever been picked on, bullied, put them up. get them up high. i love you. how many of you in here right now are bullies? bullying got so bad at school that we feared for her
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and we'd watch the storms and the lightning and it's just kind of been a little tradition to come up to this hill. we've been together for three years and three months. been through a lot. >> been through a lot. i've tried to commit suicide three times. >> once kelby came out and the town learned about her, it was overnight. we've pretty much been isolated here. there are people that we spent years with side by side, coaching their children that will not even wave to us anymore. won't look at us. >> they made it very clear that i wasn't welcomed at the school. >> the teacher was calling roll
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and said boys and then he said girls and then paused and said kelby and another teacher told me how they burned fags and kept talking about it with me in the classroom and everyone was laughing. and they knew it was hurting me and they kept going. >> and i offered her the out. i said, you know, we can go somewhere bigger, somewhere where it's not going to be a microscope and you're not going to be an outcast and if you want to do that i understand. we'll go. and from the very first day she said, no, if i leave, they win. the bullying got so bad at school that we feared for her safety. >> we were out walking at lunch and a group of boys drove around the block about five times poking us with things, yelling at us.
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the sixth time they drove by i stepped into the road to ask them to stop. instead, he sped up and ran over me. when i rolled on to the ground he drove away. >> and the kid driving the van said she didn't move and i didn't slow down. you get what you tolerate. and to see what was being tolerated in the schools, i couldn't do it. i could not idly stand by. >> my dad made the decision, something needs to be done. i can't let you go into that school knowing whether or not you're going to come home. so my junior here we actually decided to take me out of school and i went and got my g.e.d. the disappointment of not walking across the stage and feeling that sense of accomplishment, it will always be there and i'm slowly coming to peace with that.
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>> kelby, are you excited? >> i'm very excited. this is my favorite time of year. >> today is our family reunion. we're going to see everyone. >> hi, sweetie. how are you? >> i've never regretted coming out. the hurt of what the people were saying was less than having to hide who i was every single day. and luckily, you know, i always had my family to go home to and they were always there to support me. >> let's pray. lord god, you have been so good to us. one great thing that you have given to us is this family reunion. >> i group up in a very religious household.
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the gay lifestyle, especially in this area of the country, it's so shunned and so disliked. the reaction from the church when kelby came out of the closet was, if you or any member of your family is a homosexual, you cannot hold any position of authority in the church. >> my parents were sunday school teachers. they were involved in pretty much every aspect of the church that they could get involved in. >> since that day, we have not been back. i will never doubt my belief in the creator, in a god. my understanding of that god has changed completely, however, because of this situation. we realized that no matter how hard we fight, the heart of this town is not going to change. so now the question becomes, what can we do to make things better for kids. >> when the movie came out, i really found i want to say my
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purpose. >> kelby and i flew out to washington, d.c., to lobby congress for legislation. i had a chance to meet one-on-one with president obama and i wanted to thank him for his support as a father and thanking him for endorsing those pieces of legislation. "bully" has given us a voice and it's important that i not lose sight of that and that we continue this fight every single day until we feel like the heart of this country has started to come around. and i think we're getting there. >> i know there are kids that watch this movie who feel alone or who are maybe right there on the edge. if a million kids saw this movie, maybe it saves their life.
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>> this is like my fifth kind of formal screening in washington. hopefully there will be some folks from both sides of the aisle that haven't seen the film yet that i think hopefully will be more driven, more inspired to take action or to stand behind legislation. [ applause ] >> this movie was really created to put this in front of america in an honest and real way so that we couldn't argue anymore about whether this was worth our time. we have an initiative to bring it to no less than one million students. now is the time to take a stand. the issue has risen and risen and risen in our country and i believe today marks the beginning of a tipping point. i'm upset enough that i don't want him to ride the bus anymore.
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>> i have been on that route. they are just as good as gold. >> she had no concept of how to deal with any of those children. no, no, no. [ anouncer ] ihop is in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4.99. it's an epic breakfast sandwich.
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i'm going to ask you guys to shake hands. can you do that? >> yeah. >> shake hands. >> cole! cole! >> what? >> you are not going anywhere. he is offering his hand and let this drop. you may go. cole, i expected more. >> he does this every single day. >> then why are you around him? >> i don't. he comes to me. i try and get away from him. he follows me and criticizes me calling me a p-u-s-s-y. >> okay. honey, that's not right. and he shouldn't be doing that. he was trying to say sorry. >> he already did and continued on. >> you didn't mean it when you stuck your hand out either. so that means you're just like him, right? what you don't like in him --
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>> except i don't hurt people. >> by not shaking his hand, you're just like him. >> someone who pushes you into walls, threatens to break your arm, threatens to stab you and kill you, shoot you with a gun. >> he apologized. and have you reported all that sort of stuff? >> yes. >> okay. then it's been taken care of. >> and all of them said, even the cops said -- told him to stay away from me. >> okay. >> and he doesn't. >> all right. could you try to get along? i think you guys might be really good friends at some time. >> we were. and then he started bullying me. >> kim lockwood is also the assistant principal at alex's school. the violence became so apparent, we had to bring that footage to both the parents and also the school. show them the images of what was happening.
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i think ultimately we had made the right decision by sharing that with kim and alex's parents. >> how can i help you guys? >> my voice is shaking. i'm very upset. i'm going to be honest. i'm upset enough i don't want him to ride the bus anymore. >> what bus is he on? >> 54. >> okay. it's absolutely nonacceptable. i mean, they are stabbing him with pencils and choking him and -- >> buses are notoriously bad places for lots of kids. you know, i wish i could make it stop on that but i'm not going to lie to you, i can't. but what we can do is it we can get him on another bus. >> so if i put him on another bus, i have, what, little to no guarantee that he'll be safe on that bus either? >> i've ridden 54. i've been on that route. i've been on a couple of them. they are just as good as gold. >> you send your kid to school with the assumption that if they
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are out of your care they are in someone else's who is just as capable as you of keeping them safe and i don't feel like that. he is not safe on that bus. >> i don't either. we will take care of it. >> what did she say when we were leaving? we'll take care of it? i'm pretty sure that's what she said in the fall. >> yeah. >> she politicianed us. she's not going to do anything. >> my opinions on kim lockwood? she hurt my son which is a big no-no. she had no concept of how to deal with any of those children. i'm torn because i'm a good person and i want to be forgiving but she didn't ask to be forgiven so i guess i don't have to.
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>> a lot of people will jump really hard to say she's so bad at what she does or she doesn't get it and i think sometimes people are very quick to judge. it's really hard for me to judge. i've never done that job. the gift that she gave this film is it really allows people to talk about what happens, what the minutia is, the small moments that can add up to kids not feeling like parents have their back or that their struggles are not being heard. >> we went to the premier in new york and two weeks later i got a call saying that there was an altercation with my daughter at
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the same school because she now went to the same school that alex was going to in the film and she got punched in the face on the playground and the side of her face was black and blue and swollen and ultimately we just decided it wasn't a battle we were going to win on our own so we left. isn't it time that we make it stop? if we just stand together, we stick together and we just keep spreading that message until the whole wide world hears it. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ]
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i'm trying to get you out of there! even still... announcer: you don't have to be perfect to be a perfect parent. there are thousands of teens in foster care who don't need perfection, they need you. good morning. today we have kirk smalley to talk about bullying. >> i'm here to tell you about what happened to ty and i hope by doing that you guys can make sure that this doesn't happen again to another kid or another family. the main part of our message is not to stand silent and watch it happen and that's addressing the bystanders. let's be real. your school can't stop bullying. they can't do it. they can help you.
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they can support you. they can't stop this. only you can. what these kids here did, guys, that's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. that is never an option, ever. we get those kids that come up and say, i had a plan. >> i thought about once doing that because my brother was always taking all my attention. >> no, sugar. that's never an answer. we've got to make it stop, okay? together we can do that. we can change it, okay? i love you. i have an e-mail folder labeled suicide messages. that's the kids that say i was going to kill myself and it's
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full of just thousands of messages. how many of you in here right now ever been picked on, bullied. put them up. get them up high. yeah. look around. i love you. you are somebody. i've got another question for you. how many of you in here right now are bullies? i love you. you are somebody. these are things that we get from kids. dear mr. smalley, i am so sorry for the loss of your child. we will help stop bullying. the reason i cried not too long ago i bullied some somebody and
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didn't even realize that i was. and thanks to you, i final changed that. when we get to a school, with he try to get a school to stand for a chapter of silent. a chapter is a group of kids committed to making a change in their hallways and in their communities. >> we need you big guys to look out for these little dudes, okay? we try to get the older kids to teach the young ones how a bystander can get involved and make it stop. right now we have a total worldwide of 365 chapters. we've got chapters as far away as australia, india, sweden, norway, iceland. we've got one in haiti. we've spread our message around the world. we love you guys. let's get this rolling. we're not the amazing ones. it's these babies. we go and we light a little spark. they blow it into a big fire and they just keep it going and
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going and going. they are the heroes. they are our heroes. i'm telling you, i believe in you. you believe in you. tell me, i am somebody. raise this roof. >> i am somebody! >> that is what i'm talking about. >> i'm really, really, really excited to be here this morning in cleveland. if you're someone in this room today that has been bullied, is being bullied, i want you to know that i made this film for you. [ applause ] it's really gratifying when we
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do events. lots of kids come up and want to talk about what they are going through. >> tormenting someone over and over again how they look or what they do. >> name calling or picking on others. >> picking on people about their race. >> bullied because of their weight. >> are bullied kids weak? >> no. they are strong. to get up in the morning and know that you're going to be treated like crap and you're still trying to get your grades and find your way forward, that's strength. i do the best that i can. you want to give them somebody that's going to inspire them. i promise you, if you keep looking, you'll find somebody that says, i was bullied, too. what can i do to help you? let's go. okay? don't ever let it tear you up inside because you're strong and you're amazing. and you've got to know that. a lot of kids who are being bullied don't believe that anyone will have their back because they've given up and a lot of the amazing kids that i
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>> schools are not just showing the film to their students. we want schools to really use it as a tool after they screen the movie so they are going back into groups and talking about what the film brings up. >> we're going to look at a clip that you've seen on friday. alex on the bus. i want you two to look at the lens of the perpetrators. there's a number of them on the bus. i want you to look at the by standing behavior, okay? and then this table, your task is hard. i want you to look at who is standing up. who are the upstanders in this clip. >> they punch me in the jaw, strangle me, take things from me. >> why do you think people chose not to act in that clip? is. >> because they didn't want to get bullied, too. >> so they had choices but they chose not to do anything so what do we call that behavior?
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>> bystander. >> bystanding behaviors. you see tools that were used in the film with alex that did not work. i want you to think about the tools that you have to fight bullying. >> hey. >> hey. >> he's completely different. everything about him is different. he is much more outgoing, much more confident in what he has to say. he speaks up a lot more. >> stand up for them. >> he's become quite the advocate for other people. >> i like helping people. i make people realize that they are not alone and that they have a beauty inside them. they just got to let that shine. >> if you were being bullied, what would you do? >> if i was still being bullied now, yeah, i'd tell someone. >> alex's change comes from kind of being forced into the public eye.
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and i think it helped being embraced by so many people for what he had to say. >> i have lots of friends now. i have a higher drive and a higher hope. for myself. >> i'm also a dancer. i actually started. >> yeah! >> the girls and all that is new for us. but he's become quite a respectful young man, i think. the ladies like him. >> you guys are adorable. >> aww! >> i think he's precious. >> i've had so many girls ask me out all over the country that i'll e-mail them and say, one at a time, please, or something like that. >> have like this whole section for bullying. >> yeah? >> the thing that really deeply
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gives me a sense of a great satisfaction is watching alex now. ♪ i'll be anything you need ♪ i'll be there >> he's just winning in every way. >> that's bad ass. nothing prepared me for the day when we were in san francisco and alex was getting a youth award and it was from hip-hop artist sean kingston. someone that alex had really looked up to. >> i heard you're a rapper. >> yes. [ cheers and applause ] >> and alex literally says, can i drop some rhymes and sean kingston was like, okay. >> any subjects that you want me to freestyle about? >> bullying. >> bullying? i'll see what i can do. ♪
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