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news exclusive. that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. there is a lot happening in this city, in vatican city, back home and around the world. in addition to choosing the next leader of the roman catholic church, there's a huge development affecting the lives of millions of americans. a court today blocking new york city's ban on supersized sugary soft drinks. the question tonight, is it a victory for freedom or a blow against your family's health? also, the blade runner going nowhere fast. is he also deteriorating mentally? though his family denies it, there is surprising new word on how oscar pistorius may be handling the weight of his murder trial. we begin, though, here in rome with an election like none other here in this world. how often can you say that about anything. this papal conclave has not happened under these circumstances in 598 years, taking place not after the death of his pope, but after his departure. catholics have come from all over the globe to drink in this moment, feel the buzz, and

ultimately witness the outcome. what they cannot do, what no one can, including 5,600 tv and print reporters that have gathered here is actually see the process in action. only a very few inside the vatican will be privy to any of it. and only 115 men, 115 cardinal electors, will take part. >> reporter: it's already tuesday in vatican city, where later today, 115 cardinals from around the world will enter the sistine chapel, charged with electing the next pope. after the first vote tuesday afternoon, all eyes in st. peters will be focused on this newly installed chimney. a puff of white smoke signaling a new pope has been chosen. but what will guide the cardinals in their decision? eight years ago after the death of pope john paul ii, then cardinal joseph ratzinger was the clear front-runner to become the next pope. this time around, however, there is not one clear front-runner. there are deep divisions among the 115 cardinals who will be voting here starting tomorrow divisions between reformers and those who favor the status quo.

some vatican watchers see it as a showdown between the romans and the reformers, cardinals, many from other countries, who want the next pope to more aggressively take on issues like sex abuse by priests and alleged corruption. the romans appear to be coalescing not around an italian cardinal, but around cardinal odilo pedro sherer, from brazil. the reformers are actually set to be backing an italian, cardinal angela scola of o milan. while openly campaigning for pope is frowned upon, both men made closely watched appearances at churches on sunday. another contender, an american, cardinal timothy dolan of new york, also greeted well wishers at the local church he's affiliated with here in rome. the u.s. has the second biggest voting bloc of cardinals behind the italians. the next pope could also be a cardinal from ghana, peter turkson, who works in the

vatican but comes from a continent that has seen an explosion in catholicism over the last few decades. complete discretion surrounds the entire voting process. beyond the cardinals, an oath of secrecy was taken monday by other priests on hand to aid in the vote. the swiss guard, the vatican police, even the cooks and cleaning staff. and once the pope is elected, he'll go here to the room of tears. the vatican released rare footage of this chamber where the pontiff dons his papal robe for the first time. because no one can predict who will be chosen, three robe sizes have been prepared to ensure that when the next pope addresses his flock for the first time, he has something appropriate to wear. >> and it all begins just a few hours from now with the morning mass. joining us are two cnn contributors who we will no doubt be leaning on a lot in the coming days. senior vatican analyst john allen, also senior correspondent for national catholic reporter, and commentator and roman catholic priest, father edward beck.

appreciate both of you being with us. much is being made about the divisions among these 115 cardinals. explain, if you can, the camps. >> well, whenever you've got a group of 115 guys who reached the pinnacle of their profession and they all have strong ideas about which way the church ought to go, divisions are inevitable. historically, we've handicapped these divisions in terms of geography, europeans versus new worlders, for example, or ideology, moderates versus conservatives. but i think the more relevant division in this conclave is at the level of business management, which is the central complaint that many cardinals have. there's a perception that benedict was a great teacher, but a subpar business manager. so what you've got is an old guard that is very attached to traditional ways of doing business in the vatican -- >> would that be the -- a lot of people say it's romans versus reformers. that would be the romans you're talking about. >> yeah, although not all these guys are necessarily actual romans. but these are guys who have been in rome a long time and work in the vatican. >> or worked inside. >> exactly. and then you've got cardinals from all over the rest of the world who quite frankly are tired of picking up the pieces

when bombs go off here, who want to see a serious reform of this place. i think that's the fault line that is going to drive the train in this election. >> the irony, it's sort of counterintuitive, it's said a lot of the romans, those who have worked inside the vatican, are actually looking more toward a cardinal from brazil, whereas many of the so-called reformers are looking to a cardinal from milan. >> well, look, here's the math. the math is that the vatican cardinals in this conclave are 38 out of 115. they cannot win this election alone. so they need to knit together a coalition. one way of doing that is to appeal to the instinct many cardinals feel that it would be good to elect a pope from outside the west which is where two-thirds of the 1.2 billion catholics in the world today live. so this idea of finding somebody who would be acceptable to the old guard but also put a face on that catholic footprint outside the west could be a winning combination. >> father beck, it seems like the roles this next pope will be required to play are many. i suppose that's the same for any pope. but it's not just being a good

manager at the vatican or being a good emissary to the faith. an evangelizer -- there are many different hats this pope is expected to wear. >> most definitely. let's go back to what you were saying about reformer. what i'm hearing is people want a clean slate. they want somebody who will clean house. traditionally, reformers in the church have been members of religious communities who have in some way critiqued the institutional church. they said, "when in rome." i have been reading the papers here and talking to romans. they are talking about cardinal sean o'malley from boston. now, seen as a reformer because he's cleaned up boston after cardinal law but interestingly, he walks around in his francisan habit. john las said, franciscans are rock stars the here in rome because of their simplicity. if he ever stepped out on that balcony in that religious habit which i think he probably would do if ever elected, it would be seen as something totally new in the catholic church. i think it would get a lot of people who are talking to me anyway hope that something is really changing.

>> but do anyone -- folks who have worked in the vatican, cardinals who have worked in the vatican, they don't say that they are not reformers, do they? >> well, listen, everybody says they're for reform. the question is how do you define it. i think many of the cardinals who are coming into this election from other parts of the world, who are kind of in an anti-establishment mood, to be honest with you, what they mean by reform are kind of three things. one, they want the vatican to be more transparent both internally and externally. second, they want people to be held accountable. there has been a serial problem over the last eight years of people quite honestly dropping the ball just in terms of good governance and never being held accountable for it. and the third, they want this place to be efficient. the old saying in rome about the vatican is talk to me on tuesday and i'll get back to you in 300 years. that may have worked in the past but i think there are a lot of people who are frustrated at how slowly the wheels grind here. >> there is also a saying i've heard, and i'm probably mangling it, but kind of, enter the conclave a pope, leave a cardinal. >> you hear that all the time but really historically it has

not been true. joseph ratzinger went into the conclave leading, pope paul vi as well, and people were talking about him. that doesn't seem to historically be true. >> it's cute and gets us off the hook for these wild predictions that don't turn out to be true. but he's absolutely right. if you look at the conclaves of the 20th century, half the times the guy who was identified as the front-runner actually got elected. the problem, anderson, this time, there is no front-runner. >> that's what makes it so interesting this time, i think. >> i think it says more to if you enter pope, if you talk about yourself as pope, if you seem to be politicizing it or politicking yourself, it's seen as a negative. if you do that, it's like the kiss of death, as far as they're concerned. >> yet it's interesting, you see cardinal dolan literally kissing babies and getting a huge amount of attention. is that viewed negatively? >> i don't think so for him, because it seemed like this big personality that even before there was talk of him as pope, that's just who the guy is. he doesn't restrain it.

i was at the church yesterday for his mass and i know some of the italians in the church had never seen anything like it before. even though it's his titular church, they were amazed at his joi devire. >> we should say there are cardinals i have been talking to this week who really admire dolan as an evangelizer and pitch man but think it might be too much for pope. some have told me if he were elected pope, the others might as well take the next 15 years off because you will never see or hear from them again. >> we'll be back. thank you very much. let me know what you think. follow me on twitter @andersoncooper. i'll be tweeting tonight as well. we can't show you the actual conclave, of course, but next, you'll get a remarkable computer-assisted look at these cardinals as they choose a new pope. exactly what goes on in that room. we'll give you a virtual tour of the sistine chapel. our papal coverage continues throughout the hour. later, he's out on bail, waiting atrial for killing his girlfriend. is oscar pistorius also going downhill mentally?

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welcome back. we're coming to you live from rome, where it is already tuesday morning, very early tuesday morning. we're, obviously, in front of st. peter's so we can keep watch on the sistine chapel, where later today the men who elect the next pope won't even be able to get a cell phone signal out. 115 cardinal electors will be so far off the grid, they'll be sending out smoke signals instead of instant messages. but for all of the talk of the shrouded secrecy and the penalties for piercing it, we do know a bit about the way papal conclaves have gone in the past and we know a lot about the way it looks and sounds like inside the sistine chapel. tom foreman takes us inside tonight a remarkable computer simulation. >> as you know, anderson, the sistine chapel is one of the most visited and open places in all of europe. on any given day, thousands of

tourists streaming through here, especially to see the amazing fresco painted by michael angelo in the 1500s to depict the creation of man. but now this has been transformed into one of the most private and secretive places in all of europe, because this is where the cardinals will select the new pope. so how do they do that? first, with a vow of secrecy. each of the cardinals must swear that he will not allow the secrets of this room to get outside. there are no blackberries, no cell phones, no radios, no communication of any sort with anyone beyond this room, under pain of excommunication, because this is a very solemn and sacred ceremony to the people of this church. the windows have been painted out overhead, so no one can spy in. they've swept the room for electronic bugs, so no one can listen in. but once they've dispensed with all of that, they can get on to the voting. there's likely to be one vote the second day, then two votes each morning and two votes each afternoon from there on out. how is the voting done, pieces of paper are handed out to the cardinals. upon these pieces of paper, the

cardinal will write the name of who he thinks should be the next pope. once he's done, he will fold it twice like this and hold it overhead. then he will walk up the center aisle to the altar, where he will kneel briefly in prayer. then he will extend his ballot out and drop it into a special receptacle right up front. a group of cardinals will then count all the ballots to make sure the number of ballots matches the number of people in the room. then they will read all the names aloud, so everyone can hear the voting. and as each ballot is named and read, they will thread it with a needle and thread to create one collection of all the names. if you get 77 names or more, that's more than two-thirds of the 115 cardinals in this room. that would be a winning vote and we would know who the next pope was going to be. if not, then they know they have to vote again. either way, they move on to the next step. and that is the burning of the ballots. whether or not they select a pope, twice a day the ballots will be burned in these special

stoves, which have been installed in the back of the sistine chapel. that one over there is pretty much just a regular stove that's kept burning all the time. this is the one where the ballots go, and when they put them in, that's the only communication they have with the outside world, because, if they have not selected a pope, then when they throw the ballots inside, they will put some wet straw or some chemicals over there that will make the smoke come up black. otherwise, they will let it burn freely or maybe even add some chemicals that kick a little bit of white smoke into it, so the world knows if a new pope has been chosen. anderson? >> tom, thanks very much. of course, all eyes are going to be on that smokestack late tomorrow afternoon. that's when the first vote actually takes place. and there is often some confusion as to whether the smoke is white or black. it's a little hard to tell. they're actually going to ring the bells of st. peter's when a pope has been elected to verify, in fact, that it is white smoke. more now on the candidates and how very, very delicately, very gingerly, they may be trying to influence the outcome. there are, of course, no campaign rallies, however, there

is campaigning of a sort. my colleague, chris cuomo, discovered while spending time with a leading american cardinal. chris and i spoke a short time ago. you spent part of yesterday with cardinal dolan from new york. one of, people say, a leading contender, although it's doubtful that an american would be named pope this time around. it's an interesting dance they're kind of doing right now. >> he wants to be charismatic. he's telling jokes, he's making the crowd go while. he says, don't tell anybody, at his church here, but he said, this is my favorite, and the crowd goes wild. but he says, there's such big issues, we'll have to look to god for inspiration so we'll have to be careful. not easy. not easy. >> a lot is being made about division in the church among these 115 cardinals, between reformers and those who are more interested in the inner workings of the vatican. do you think too much is being made of that? >> normally, i would say yes. but this time we've heard from

many people that when the foreign cardinals came in, working here in the vatican -- >> the americans? >> that's right, they all came in and they were pushing back, saying, we're not setting a date for the conclave right away, we want to talk about these big issues, and there's been a lot of robust debate, that a lot of foreign cardinals are meeting on their own about things. there's real reason to believe this could be a watershed moment for the catholic church. >> unlikely it's going to be done within two days, like it was the last time. >> last time, it was somewhat known that then joseph ratzinger was a strong candidate. here, given the big issues, given that spirit of, this is an opportunity, this is unique, we believe it will go longer, but it's so frustrating for us to report this, because the only men who know anything, ain't talking on the threat of excommunication. >> a lot of reporters milling around waiting for information. chris, appreciate it. it's going to be a fascinating couple of days. designers have also been hard at work on clothes for the new pope. designers are ready for anything, small, medium, or large. the robes are all set to go. coming up, we'll show you what

goes into the papal outfit from head to toe. and large sugary drinks are safe for now, after a court ruling struck down the ban just hours before it was supposed to go into effect. reaction on that, next.

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hey, welcome back. supersized sugary drinks got last-minute reprieve today in new york. just hours before a controversial city-wide ban was

to take effect, a state judge blocked it, calling the ban arbitrary and capricious, also saying the court finds that the regulation herein is laden with exceptions based on economic and political concerns. now, the ban would have restricted the sale of sugary drinks to no more than 16 ounces in restaurants, fast food eateries, movie theaters, stadiums, but it would have also exempted some retailers, including 7-eleven, which is regulated by the state, not the city. 7-eleven also sells the popular big gulp drinks. mayor michael bloomberg said this in an interview with david letterman earlier today. >> the state court judge said the department of health didn't have the authority to do it. we think that they do. we'll appeal. in the meantime, this year, 70,000 americans will die from obesity, 5,000 here in new york. we've got to do something about it. >> 70,000 americans? >> 70,000 people will die from obesity. >> joining me now is michael

moynihan, senior editor at moynihan, senior editor at "newsweek daily beast" and cnn's senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. jeff, the judge said the ban is, quote, laden with exceptions based on economic and political concerns. there are a number of exceptions, like convenience stores that would be able to sell these supersized drinks, but not restaurants. beverages with high milk content would be exempt. this a controversial issue for the judge, or is it just because there's too many loopholes? >> it's sort of hard to tell. he just doesn't like the law and rules it arbitrary. i think it's a terrible decision, poorly reasoned. and the idea that just because you can't ban everything, and you can't do everything to limit obesity, that you can't do anything, i think, is just a mistaken idea. i think this was a reasonable step by mayor blockberg, and i think an appeals court will overturn it. >> jeff, in order to get it to be overturned, would bloomberg have to try to change the law to

make it kind of across the board? and not have there been exemptions or loopholes? >> no, he would just say that this law is reasonable. look, he banned trans fats in restaurants, but he didn't ban trans fats at home. he banned smoking in bars and restaurants, but he didn't ban smoking at home or on the sidewalks. there are always exceptions. there are always loopholes in law, but that doesn't mean that a judge can throw out the whole thing. this is one step that will limit obesity and diabetes, which are enormous problems in this city, and i don't see why the judge took it upon himself to act like he was the legislature and decide he wouldn't have agreed to this law. that's not what judges are supposed to do. >> michael, how do you see it? i know you said this is basically a slippery slope, this ban. >> well, it is. and i would say that banning cigarettes in a bar, for instance, where they can adversely affect other people, versus banning them in somebody's home, is telling people what they can do in their own home is slightly different. in this case, as the judge pointed out, i'll let jeff

adjudicate the legal angle here, the moral angle, but it is kind of strange that you can go to 7-eleven, a big corporation, and buy a 28,000-ounce drink, and then you can't go next door to the same bodega and buy the same thing, because 7-lefb has larger power and has lobbied for the same thing in the past. so in that sense, jeff is right, there's a tangle of weird regulations and loopholes. but it is a weird, slipperly slope. mayor bloomberg has also talked about banning large-sized popcorn in movie theaters. he's talked about salts, you know, regulating how much salts restaurants use in certain dishes. i mean, there has to be, at some point, an end to this. will this ban, if it were to be overturned, have a significant impact on waistlines? it's doubtful. and there's not really a lot of evidence to suggest that. and in his news conference today, he talked about the menu labeling. and there's a lot of studies that suggest that hasn't helped either. so i think there's a much deeper issue that can't be solved here by sort of, quick fix bits of regulation.

>> michael moynihan, jeff toobin, thanks very much. just ahead, the backlash over a new book that suggests women may be their own worst enemy when it comes to landing top leadership jobs in the workplace. what women want and are they going after it? also tonight, disturbing reports about the mental health of the so-called blade runner, oscar pistorius, accused of murdering his girlfriend. there's word he may be suicidal. his family denies this vigorously. we'll get an update from drew griffin, who just got back from south africa, and more here from rome about today's conclave, later on.

coming up on "360," accused murderer oscar pistorius is pressing for more lenient bail conditions. what he's asking the court to change and what his family is saying about a report that he may be suicidal. that's ahead.

in the last few weeks, one of the most powerful women in business has found herself at the center of a storm that is still raging. sheryl sandberg, chief operating officer of facebook, is facing a backlash because of what she said in her new book, "lean in: women work and the will to lead." she touched a nerve, to put it mildly, but suggesting that women may be holding themselves back, sabotaging their own success. a provocative message to be sure, and one that has angered some women. on "60 minutes" last night, norah o'donnell asked sandberg

about it. >> some women will hear that and say, wow, she's telling me that i'm not working hard enough, i'm not trying hard enough. she's blaming women. >> yeah. i'm not blaming women. my message is not one of blaming women. there's an awful lot we don't control. i am saying that there's an awful lot we can control. and we can do, for ourselves, to sit at more tables, raise more hands. >> what do you think? before you decide, listen to this conversation i had earlier with norah o'donnell and "fortune" magazine's patty sellers. >> sheryl sandberg says it's not just men holding back women, it's actually women holding back themselves. i want to play something from the interview you were doing on "60 minutes." take a look. >> they start leaning back. saying, i want to have a child one day, i couldn't possibly take on anymore. or, i'm still learning on my current job. i've never had a man say that to me. >> you're suggesting that women aren't ambitious. >> i'm not saying women aren't ambitious. plenty of women are as ambitious as men. but what i am saying, and i want

to say it unequivocally and unapologetically, that the data is clear, when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever you're doing, men, boys outnumber girls and women. >> what do you think of that notion, that women are holding themselves back? >> well, i think what sheryl sandberg is saying is that, essentially, women have internalized some of the messages that they've been given as young as little girls, when we call girls bossy for their behavior. a sign, essentially, a negative term for their behavior. i think there's some truth to it. i think there is somewhat of an ambition gap. >> patty, there's a lot of backlash against her for this. >> there is. there are two points of view. one is that it's the institution's fault. the other view is, which is sheryl's view, it's our fault. and there's a polarization here, that's happening, and sheryl is saying, i'm taking the braver point of view. the more -- the more difficult case to make, which is that, let's blame ourselves. she's brave.

>> do you think there would have been this backlash, though, if a man had written this book and said this about men? do you think there would have been the same kind of backlash? >> well, a man wouldn't say it about men, because men -- men have the same qualifications for a job as a woman does, which may not be enough to get that promotion. a man will put himself out there. a woman will say, i need to -- i need to be more ready. >> i think it's an incredible argument to be having right now, because i think women are at a turning point. you have 30 years, women have been going, getting more college degrees than men, for 30 years, anderson. women are now getting more phds than men, more medical degrees, more law degrees. we're at this turning point, and yet there are so few women in leadership positions. so sheryl sandberg is saying, why is that? and she is putting the onus on women themselves. and what i've heard from, you know, girlfriends and other moms, there's a very strong reaction to what she's saying. a very strong reaction. because a lot of people say, i can't be sheryl sandberg.

she's not trying to say that, be like me. but i think she has embodied this message. and i think the other thing i find interesting about sheryl sandberg, for someone who's so incredibly successful, she's very insecure. she is uncomfortable, in some ways, with her own power and influence, and it goes back to, as we put in our "60 minutes" piece, as to how she was treated as both a young girl and in high school. >> but sheryl sandberg says that women in the business world worry about being liked? >> yes. in fact, mark zuckerberg said to her at some point, i think your biggest problem is you want too much to be liked. >> and, norah, you point out that sheryl talks a lot in her book about her vulnerabilities, her insecurities. she's very strategic in doing that. she knows she has to do that, to be liked. and for this message to resonate. because if she got out there and she talked about how she's always been confident, she knew she would be successful, her

message would go nowhere. >> it's so interesting that that double standard exists, that men don't do that, and it's fine, and if a woman wrote the same kind of book, you know, with her confidence out in front, it would be viewed as inappropriate somehow. >> right. and i think you make an excellent point about that. in terms of revealing her vulnerabilities, to make herself more likable. but at the same time, she's incredibly successful. what other, even anyone, male or female, two harvard degrees, hand-picked by larry summers, to be your chief of staff at the treasury department, all before the age of 30, and hit two ipos, google and facebook, almost a billionaire, and her husband is incredibly wealthy and success in silicon valley. she is at the pinnacle of success. >> she is. >> she's at the pinnacle of success, a incredibly powerful woman. and the question is, why is she actually doing this? most women in business, as patty knows better than anyone else, tries not to bring up the point that they're a woman in

business. they just want to be a businessperson. >> we've been tracking powerful women now for 15 years. and women -- successful women are different from successful men. >> in what ways? >> men tend to view their careers as ladders. straight up, they look at the next rung. they view power vertically. women, and i've asked hundreds of women, and probably at this point, hundreds of men, how do you view power? women tend to view power horizontally. >> which means what? >>t's all about influence. it's all about having an influence, not necessarily just getting the next job, but being effective, broadly. it's what causes a lot of women to drop out of corporate america, because they don't feel fulfilled, just by getting that promotion. or a big pay raise. what we see sheryl sandberg doing right now is a reflection of that.

she's not satisfied being coo of facebook. she wants to do something more. she's looking at her power horizontal. >> she's also got, i think, kind of a tough message. which is that she was speaking to a group of harvard to a group of harvard business school students, and she bluntly said, a third of you women will not be workinging ten years from now, and the rest of you will actually be working for the guy sitting next to you. that's a pretty startling message for you to hear. why is it that women, even in the most elite women, who have advanced degrees from some of the most prestigious schools in this country, have chosen to drop out of the workforce and are not interested in leadership positions. and that's a really interesting thing to think about, i think. >> yeah. >> it's a good discussion to have. norah, fascinating piece. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> patty, thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >> i want to know what you think on twitter right now, @andersoncooper. here in rome, the first vote on a new pope could be hours away, about 12 or 13 hours away. we don't know who will accept the job, but there's already a lot of buzz about what he'll wear from head to toe, believe it or not. we'll look at that when we continue.

tonight, conflicting reports about oscar pistorius' mental health. as you probably know, the south african track star is accused of murdering his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp. he's out on bail. he admits that he killed steenkamp, but says it was is a terrible mistake, that he mistake her for a killer. the blade runner has been living at his uncle's home. under the conditions of his bail, he can't return to his own home, where the killing occurred or have any alcohol. he also had to give up his passport. today the bbc reported that pistorius is suicidal and basically broke. they cited a close family friend as their source. the blade runner's family is denying those reports. drew griffin has been following the case closely and just returned from south africa. what's the latest, drew? >> two developments today. one, the denial that pistorius is, in fact, destitute and suicidal. two, he wants to be allowed to leave south africa. he's already been let out of

jail as he awaits trial, but he's been restricted to his uncle's mansion in pretoria. he wants to be able to travel, internationally, presumably to make some appearances where he can be paid, make money for his defense. the national prosecutor's office says it's going to oppose, anderson, any lifting of that travel ban and any other things that he wants lifted from his bail. >> and on that, the family admits he is in need of money and there's a report that he's depressed to the point of suicide. what do you make of that? >> a bbc report quoting a close friend over the weekend says that oscar is really down, he's suicidal. that's just not true, according to his uncle, arnold. that's the arnold that he's staying with. arnold pistorius released this statement today, saying in part that "oscar, broken as he currently is, believes he does have a purpose in life and is working towards that. media reports to the contrary are untrue." the uncle flat-out denying any suicide threats, but the

statement did go on to say that oscar is trying to sell that home in pretoria and some race horses to cover the trial expenses. >> and as for the case itself, to people who may not have followed this, it's an extraordinary position for him to be in, claiming he was awoken in the middle of the night, that his girlfriend was spending the night, and somehow he got up from the bed, heard some sort of noise, grabbed the gun, and shot what he thought was a burglar through the door of a bathroom, only realizing after the shooting that he'd, in fact, shot his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp who, i guess he said, he didn't even check the bed for. >> yeah, the bed he got out of, by the way. yes. and i must tell you, south africans are really struggling to believe this truly beloved sports star of their country. even given the level of the crime in south africa, he lived in an extremely secure community, electrified fences all around it, dogs. and we're talking about shooting through a toilet door. not just the bathroom door, but an interior door to just the toilet, without knowing who's behind it. when i was in south africa, i

talked to the president of the south african sports shooting club about this, and he says, really, there's just two options here. either oscar pistorius is the most irresponsible gun owner in south africa, or he is, as the prosecutors allege, guilty of premeditated murder. >> he knows not what's behind that closed door. that doesn't sound like what you would advocate as responsible gun ownership. >> sir, i'm going to be very honest and very frank with you, but at the shooting association, we teach you. if you do not see a target, do not engage it. bottom line. so shooting -- for us to shoot through a door, how do we know what we're shooting at, on the other side. you don't know what you're shooting at. so if you don't see a target -- our shooting is, when you see a target, point the gun and engage the target. if there's no target and you're pointing a gun, sorry, go home,

bye-bye. so what i'm trying to say is, we would never say, shoot through something, and don't know what you're shooting at and what the target is on the other side. >> just some disbelief, anderson, from gun experts in south africa. oscar pistorius' next court appearance, not scheduled until june, unless they have some kind of a bail modification hearing. anderson? >> we'll see if, in fact, his passport is given back and he can travel. let's get caught up on some of the other stories we're following. a sha's isha's here. two americans were killed and at least ten were wounded in a shoot-out in afghanistan today. someone wearing an afghan national security forces uniform opened fire with a truck-mounted machine gun after a meeting between coalition and afghan forces. a u.s. official says coalition forces returned fire and killed the attacker and two afghan army personnel. north korea's army has scrapped the arms disagreement that ended the korean war in 1953, that's according to the

official newspaper of the country's ruling party. north korea had been threatening the move ever since the u.n. security council passed stronger sanctions following its nuclear test last month. north korea has nullified the agreement several other times in the past. in ohio, six teenagers, ages 14 to 19 died in a single vehicle crash in a stolen suv. the suv crashed into a guardrail and flipped over into a pond. two other teenagers escaped the submerged vehicle by breaking a rear window. police say none of the passengers had a seat belt on. the nfl is teaming up with ge and under armour in a $60 million four-year deal aimed at reducing the threat of head injuries for football players. $40 million will go to research and $20 million will go to prizes for new diagnostic techniques and ways to prevent injuries. and justin timberlake's fifth time as host was a charm for "saturday night live." his hosting gig this weekend

reportedly brought "snl" its highest ratings since january 2012, when charles barkley hosted. in this week's american journey, a company in iowa is working on a new way to avoid all those fees that credit card companies charge. the company's trying to change the way we pay for things, gi taking both credit cards and cash out of the mix all together. once again, here's tom foreman. far from the bustle of new york, chicago, and other financial powerhouses, in des moines, bill mill is leading an economic revolution. you're basically trying to kill money, aren't you? >> well, we're trying to give people a better alternative to actual cash, yes. and he explains it with a quick stop in a restaurant, his cell phone and the app that connects him to his company, called dwalla. so i sit down here and i order a cheese panini and the bill comes

and what do i do? >> basically, i just select the location, type in how much i owe them and hit pay, they confirm that i paid, and the transaction is over. >> that's it? >> that's it. no cards, no cash, no nothing, just all based on the internet. >> reporter: the target is not just paper money, but more specifically, credit cards that charge percentages on every dollar of every purchase, tens of billions paid by merchants and consumers alike. other companies are trying to undercut that system, which milne has always found disturbing. >> we work very hard for our money, and when we exchange it with someone else who has worked very hard to receive that money, it shouldn't just get siphoned off to some third party. >> reporter: dwolla's alternative, quick, electronic cash transfers on the cheap. there's no fee for any purchase under $10, and over $10, the fee is a flat 25 cents, that's all. the state of iowa likes it so much, they've signed up this year to let dwolla handle tax payments. >> we also have consumers and

personal users in all 50 states. so people use dwolla all over the u.s. >> reporter: and that could turn dwolla into a big player, one quarter at a time. tom foreman, cnn, des moines. >> tom foreman, many thanks. anderson? >> isha, thanks. coming up, we don't yet know who the next pope will be, which poses a bit of a dilemma for those who have to make his clothing. they're on top of it, we'll explain ahead. next, what goes into designing the papal outfit, right down to his shoes.

here in rome, really across the entire world, people are waiting to hear who will be the next pope. but for those who have to design what the next pope will wear, the mystery hits a little closer to home. they've got to be ready for pretty much anything, including small, medium, and large, and they are, from the robes right down to the shoes. dressing the pope is a challenge for any designer, but it is certainly a welcome one. dan rivers has the story. >> reporter: you might think dressing a pope is easy. the mantel, the cape, the papal skull cap and those long, white robes. but while the outline is carefully controlled by the vatican, there are subtle variations, allowing each pope his own sartorial expression.