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welcome back, everyone to "around the world" another big snow storm. this time not in the united states. we're talking europe. >> oh, yeah. just look at that. the traffic at a standstill across western europe and england, germany is among the
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hardest hit. hundreds of flights cancelled. people basically stuck. >> let's get chad meyers in here. i know you travel. i have been through frankfurt airport more than i can count. they shut that place down. my god, that's got to be chaos. >> four runways they couldn't keep one open at any one time today. snowing so hard they were as soon as they get to the end it would be covered up and couldn't see the runway. moving off to the east. a low right here and another low making rain for rome, too. saw a lot of rain and thunderstorm activity earlier today. but about there's more snow to come for frankfurt. because you're sitting there, hoping to get out you may not. the snow's coming in. brussels, paris, frankfurt. forecast could be up to 6 inches or 10 centimeters in some spots. there's the bull's-eye, frankfurt, and snow from paris back. and across. it is winter, it's supposed to
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snow. it was 15 degrees above normal last week. now back into winter. >> i cannot imagine what frankfurt airport looks like. chad, good to see you. >> so true. michael, everybody's stuck. they all use frankfurt. you can go to africa, anywhere in the world. >> middle east. >> stop in frankfurt. >> goodness me, that's not the airport to get shut down. a short show for me but not you. i'm out of here. carry on. >> i missed you. a full hour tomorrow, promise you. >> let's do that. see you then. >> good to see you. the doors are closed. now we wait. this hour, 115 catholic cardinals are inside the sistine chapel. they are meet, voting on who will become the next pope. then what do michelle obama, paris hilton and mel gibson have in common in? all reportedly hacked. that investigation up next.
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and this hour, nasa releases new information about a martian rock, what they could mean for space exploration. i'm suzanne malveaux. take a look. extraordinary. 115 catholic cardinals inside gathered the sistine chapel. you see the doors. very dramatic shot here. they are locked away. they're not going to have contact with anyone in the outside world until they choose a new pope. millions of people around the world, they are waiting to see what color smoke comes out of the chimney. that's what the indication is going to be. whether or not they have made a decision. we're following of course every moment of this historic event. our chris cuomo is in rome. chris, you've got the details. i've been following all morning. you have details of what is taking place inside. walk us through this. >> well, it's i have interesting, suzanne. thank you very much. i'm sitting next to john allen,
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our vatican analyst, spot on. it's a really involved ceremony. we've watched cardinals become one. they have to figure out each other's minds and come to consensus and pick one man to be the 26 6th pope. we listened to the chanting and the singing. their sense of purpose here. one of the things that's interesting once the conclave begins unlike political conventions, there is no dickering or nominations or speeches. that will go on in between and the lunches at the night perhaps. right now it's a sceremony wher each cardinal walk up with a ballot in their hand, putted it in an urn and they have an interesting counting process. talk about redundancy. they have one cardinal, hears the same, says it out loud. hands it to the next guy.
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another guy says it out loud. a third guy marks it down. three other cardinals do the exact same thing. all along the way, the other 115 cardinals who electors are marking it down on their on ball ballot. it doesn't get much more specific than that. >> it's incredible. what happens, though, chris, like they vote. they don't come up with the two-thirds that they need. i don't suppose a pope bracket a different kind of march madness going on. how do they reassess the next vote and how that plays out? >> well, they'll tell you it's about a lot of pray somewhere obviously as holy men that's something they do. but there is caucusing, luncheons, i was told by a vatican insider the ultimate power lunch. at night they're allowed to meet and have their discussions. they have to get to 77, magic number. rule is two-thirds majority plus one as you were alluding to
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earlier. they're going to have to have discussion. i mean common sense demands it. but really are hamstrung in a way, not use an indelicate word, but the fact that these candidates, men whose names that discussing, can't speak for themselves. they're not even allowed to vote for themselves. >> and how do we know, chris, explain for us what we're looking for when we take a look at that chimney, colored smoke? >> the stove, everything sounds bet when you say it in italian. two stoves. they burn the ballots. there's an intricate proceeding. they run a needle through the same word on each ballot and tie them in thread and take the notes taken by the cardinals during that session and every time they have two votes without a pope being selected they burn them. and they put them in, all chemical packs they use to try to make the smoke white, that means they have a pope. if not, you have black smoke.
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they used to take wet straw, wet straw would make the smoke dark. dry straw would make it light. that's what we're watching for on smoke watch to recognize the color of the smoke. it has been notoriously difficult because smoke at the end of the day is kind of smoke. and some who watch this have joked around, with all of the advances we've had in pyrotechniques, can't they reach out to the gucci family and get this smoke to burst out in beautiful colors? but that hasn't been done yet. >> we'll be watching for the smoke. hopefully they'll get it right and bells will ring as well. you're on pope watch. good to see you. manhunt under way this hour in washington state. this is for an ex-convict who authorities say killed his grandparents just after they held this welcome home party in his honor. here's the guy. the suspect, police say 26-year-old michael boisen on
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the run possibly in his grandparents' car. they are concerned he may make good on more threats to kill. want to get the latest from casey wine ween in l.a. suspected of killing them right after they gave him a welcome home party? >> reporter: that's right. he was released from jail on friday and his relatives threw him a welcome home party friday night. everyone, he was at his grandparents' house where he was supposed to spend the night everyone left 9:00. saturday evening his mother had not heard from him, had not heard from her parents went to the house, was in the house for an hour before she found the bodies of her parents. that means that he had several hours, michael had several hours to go basically anywhere. authorities say they could be anywhere. they're talking with law enforcement in neighboring stated. they're in contact with the
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border patrol to make sure that he hasn't fled to canada. basically they admit right now they do not know where he is and they are asking for the public's help. you mentioned his grandparents' vehicle that he is allegedly -- alleged to have stolen at after he allegedly committed the murder. red 2001 chrysler 300 with washington license plates 046 xxu. that's the last vehicle he was known to be in. authorities say he could have stolen another vehicle. they're not sure. he's still driving that one. they want the public to be on the look out. also described as friendly and clean-cut. one big worry here is that after these murders, investigators found that he had done internet searches about acquiring guns from gun shows in the pacific northwest and as far south as nevada. because he is a convicted felon, he can't go to a traditional retail store and buy a weapon. he has made threats against law enforcement, against members of the public, and they found out
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late that he had made threats against members of his own family. they're very, very worried about he could carry those out. here's what the local sheriff had to say. >> right now, we have a person very, very dangerous on the run that we believe is trying to obtain weapons to kill citizens and kill police officers or corrections officers. we need to catch this guy. >> reporter: added twist to the story, suzanne, four of his previous convicts for robbery involved oxycontin. he was supposed to start rehab today or tomorrow. authorities are looking into any possible disappearances, burglaries of pharmacies anything like that concerned that could be playing a role in this manhunt. >> this is an unbelievable story. just unbelievable. thank you, casey. let us know if you have more details if they're getting close to catching him. also alarming beach of
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security. a website claims to have posted the first lady's financial information, including a social security number. she was not the only one in the administration. actually the vice president, vice president biden, hillary clinton may also have been a victim, one of the victims here. brian todd's joining us. first of all, how do they explain how this happened? >> reporter: this could be hacking or simple identity theft a website claiming to have financial information about political and entertainment figures is posting information. website is entitled the secret files it has a picture of a ghoulish looking girl on the main page. information appears to be data on the celebrities' finances, credit reports, loan information, credit card accounts, mortgages. . we can't verify this information is accurate. but the secret service and the fbi are investigating. the secret service confirms to us it is looking into how the personal information purported to relate to first lady michelle obama, vice president biden and former first lady and secretary
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of state hillary clinton ended uppen the website on the internet. separately as an indication the situation is treated seriously a law enforcement official told cnn that investigators are going to seek administrative subpoenas to obtain records from internet service providers. >> wow. and there's some other folks, too. familiar names, what, talking about jay-z, beyonce, kim kardashian, to name a few also hacked. >> more than a dozen. kim kardashian, ashton kutcher, beyonce, jay-z. again, of course relating to person personal financial matters, auto loans. we have to stress we can't confirm if the information is accurate. we have not got encomment from them or confirmation on the accuracy of the data. >> thank you. coming up, tsa allowing small knives that look like these on the plane. because of these forced spending cuts the tsa says it's closing
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hundreds of air traffic control towers. could you be at risk? well, we'll ask and talk to one of most recognizable pilots what he's got to say about it. red tide threatening florida's manatees. algae's killing the endangered animals. sheryl sandberg says working women can have it all but fewer than 5% of women lead the fortune 500 companies. this is "cnn newsroom" it's all happening now. the chevy malibu offers an e.p.a.-estimated 34 mpg highway. amazing. see the grille? mm-hmm. let me show you how it works. it opens and closes like this to help you conserve fuel. oh. is that an s.o.s. signal? no, that's the aero grille shutters demonstration.
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yeah. all he's asking is that he rename it the trump white house and casino. >> that's not bad. conan o'brien having fun over the suspension of the white house tours because of forced spending cuts. it is serious. wolf blitzer's here. good to see you. folk are upset about canceling white house tours. we've heard from jay carney. he says there were big decisions to make. you had furloughs, overtime. so this might be a way of at least making some cuts but not as painful. what do you think is the strategy behind this? >> well, they insist they really doesn't have any choice that these across the board meat cleaver kind of cuts in certain areas forced them to make these decisions as a result, no white house tours which are popular. how do you get in one of the white house tours? the white house can give you a tick the or they send over to tickets to the house and senate,
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give constituents to get a white house tour. that's dried up. it's unpopular this decision by the white house with a lot of members of the house and the senate who made a point of giving tour tickets to their own constituents. i had a chance to talk about this a little bit last night with senator rand paul of kentucky. he was very upset about this. especially because at the same time they're cutting back on white house tours the u.s. is stepping up assistance, if you will, to egypt, for example, in its muslim brotherhood-led government. listen to senator paul. >> when i talked to working class people and they find that their taxes are being sent to a country that burns our flag and chants "death to america," meanwhile we don't have tours in the white house and you know what the president's done now? he's closing the entrances to the office buildings up here. i asked one of the capitol hill police, i said where are they? are they not work? he said, no, they've been assigned to other locations.
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mickey house games that he does and gives $250 million in addition to the couple billion we already give to egypt i think it's really a disgrace. >> hearing a lot more of those kind of complaints, suzanne. you've been in washington for a long time. the irritation at the white house coming from members of the congress who are pretty angry about this decision to end these tours at least for the time being. >> wolf, i have another question for you. i mean i wonder if this go-round is going to work. we have had many instances president obama reaching out to republicans, invited them to a special screening of "lincoln." now he's going to clip, on their cluf turf. there that smooth over things this go-round? >> everybody hopes they will because stakes are enormous. by then of july the country has to raise the nation's debt ceiling. you saw it raining earlier here in washington as the president was outside.
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they've got some major issues that they've got to work out. there's going to have to be some compromise on both sides whether increasing tax revenues what the president and democrats want or cutting entitlement spending which is what the republicans by and large want. they're going to have to come up with some formula. my own sense is, i have covered washington for a long time, it's bettor start talking to each other than instead talking at each other. and the president's doing impressive term offensive work this week. even as we speak, he's heading to the hill to meet with democratic leadership, ranger and file as well, and republican rank and file as well. >> used to be folks would go out to dinner, have drinks, chat, negotiation, and that casual way. it doesn't seem to be happening much these days. thank you. good to see you. tsa closing hundreds of air traffic control towers. what one of the nation's most recognizable pilots has to say about all of this. we'll hear from "sully" sullenberger next.
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i'm sure you remember this. called the miracle on the hudson. this was the plane that was loaded with passengers that was guided to safety on the hudson
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river after the engines were damaged. look at that. just laying there. absolutely incredible, people called it a miracle. the captain of the plane, captain chesley sullenberger, known as sully, he was the one who saved all of the passengers' lives. and he has a mission, if you will, a goal, takes him beyond flying. captain, always good to see you. before that happened a lot of us never even realized you could do something like that land the plane in the water. you are a hero 0 to many of us. i want to talk about your cause. we've got a lot of things to do. primarily let's talk about what we've seen with the tsa, controversy, a couple of things have changed here. small pocket knives allowed on the planes. how do you weigh in on this? is that a good or bad idea? >> well, two thoughts come to me. first, i think that the tsa is trying to go generally in the right direction which is to do a
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better job of looking at people and their behaviors. and not only searching to find things, however, i think in this case they are missing the mark. i think that a lot of harm can still be done with a blade that's even 2.36 inches long and puts cabin crew, flight attendants and passengers at some additioning rink. >> do you think they have a point when they talk about the fact they got bigger fish to friday, other matters, heavy security issued to deal with? >> they have many threats to deal with. they've come out saying that we have recovered all kinds of weapons. but i don't think in this case that it was a wise choice to allow or choose to allow soon blades of that size to come on to airplanes. i think a lot of harm canning done with blades even that small. >> one thing that's happening, too, the forced budget cuts coming ut of washington threatening to shut down control
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towers at smaller airports. do you think that's going to have an impact on safety? >> you know, it's going to be a slight change. probably one that wouldn't even be in theed to passengered in the airplanes that they're flying in. what's going to happen when a control tower is closed instead of having an air traffic controller to choreograph movement of the planes, instead of that you have to have the pilots on their own coordinate their own movements by stating on the radio frequency where they are, what their intentions are. and to coordinate among themselves to follow the procedures and the rules for arrival and take-off. it puts all of the burden for a collision avoidance on pilots instead of the shared collision avoidance responsibility that we have where there's an air traffic controller to manage the flow to and from runways. >> did does it put passengers at more risk, more danger? >> some.
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we're better off having manned air traffic controllers, towers at all airports. i don't think it's going to be a big increase in risk but some additional risk, i think. >> tell us about your cause. i know that pilots you have a check list, certain things that you have to do before that plane takes off. do you want to use that system in the medical profession. can you explain? >> one of the obligations i feel is to do good with this and save as many lives as possible. what we've learned over a century in aviation is how to make it safe. and the kinds of systems and procedures and human skills we have to have to be able to do that. these are transferrable to many industries, nuclear power, financial risk management or patient safety in medicine. things as simple as using surgical check list, simple, cheap innovation using in the form of a check list over 75
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years is coming into acceptance to make more predictable best practices followed on every procedure on every patient every day. >> so, for instance, if you had an operation you went in for a procedure you have a check list like you do as a pilot that says, look, here's what you've got to do put on the mask, make sure that this is the right kidney that we're treating, all kinds 0 of things that's the idea, yes? >> exactly. and that's one example. that's one small example. but it also involves things as making sure that someone is in charge of stocking supplies so nurses can spend shifts providing care and not searching for supplies that they need. it's a matter of having administrations in the hospital that can use value based purchasing instead of buying cheaper iodine surgical scrub they might purchase something that will reduce infections 40%. it's a system wide approach. >> an incredible thing that
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you're doing there. vie to -- we've got to show pictures. this is your opportunity, you met babies. these were the babies right, of the passengers, who you saved who have since been born. can you tell me what that was like to meet these guys? >> recently we had wonderful reunions including passengers who have had children born to them in the last four years since the flight to the hudson, children that would not have been born had we not been successful. a wonderful celebration of life. of the ten born, two are named hudson. >> you can't blame them, of course. you'd want to in some way pay trisht tribute to you as well. thank you. it's wonderful to see you and touching to see those children are here today because of your heroism. thank you so much. still ahead, nasa says mars could have supported ancient life. red tide threatening manatees
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right now, in vatican city, take a look at it, 115 catholic cardinals gathered inside the sistine chap. they're not going to have contact with outside world until they choose a new pope. you can see millions of folks around the world waiting to see what color smoke comes out of the chimney. as you know, white smoke means cardinals have chosen a new pope. black smoke means they have not yet. we are watching it, too, of course. minute by minute. anything happens, we'll bring that to you live. just beautiful sistine chapel. in texas a community is mourning the loss of five teenagers killed in an accident. police say sunday afternoon 16-year-old driver ran a stop sign, collided with a gas tanker, both vehicles went up in
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flames and the truck driver was seriously injured. none of the teens in the suv survived. >> there were always hanging out together. >> right. >> all five of them always together. >> yeah. it's hard just for one, much less five. kids, you know, it just -- it's just hard. it's so quick. >> on the same day, six teenagers in warren, ohio killed when their suv struck a guardrail flipped into the pond. another tragedy, this out of chicago. this time it is a 6-month-old baby killed by gun violence. doctors tried to save the baby but she died from gunshot wounds this morning. police say she and her father were shot multiple times in their minute van on the south side. the father was changing her diaper. the shooter fled on foot, got away in a van.
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>> this is another tragedy because no child and certainly not an infant should be the victim of gang violence which, by the way, at this point, although there's a lot of angles that we're pursuing, there are strong gang overtones to this particular event. >> so, so sad. police are searching for a suspect. the father, he was listed in serious condition. friends and family of a missing california teacher, they're holding a vigil and prayers from the gulf coast to the west coast. 26-year-old terry lynn month nay seen leaving a new orleans area bar that was in the early morning hours of march 2nd. her car, it's also missing. police have no suspects in her disappearance. a record 174 manatees have been killed in florida this year, all because of what is called red tide. it's especially tragic because manatee are endangered species
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list. chad is going to join us here. chad mayers. explain why this is happening. what is a red tide? >> it's algae in the water. this particular year, started in september, only lasts a few weeks or even if it starts in march or april lasts a few weeks. a long-term problem here and the algae, as they die and fall out produce toxins. toxins get on sea grass and the manatee will eat the sea grass. tampa bay all the way down to port charlotte, even as far south here as st. marco peach here, all of the area seeing red tide and it's not blowing away. it's not going away. many types we talk about the red tie that comes out of the gulf of mexico with the chemicals that come out of the gulf of mexico through the mississippi river whether it's fertilizer. this one here has been lasting a long time. to kill this many, and it's just
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a brutal death that these manatees have been going through. they're trying to tow them out, move them back into fresher water but this is very toxic water that they're swimming in now. and obviously toxic feed. almost gets into their brain and they begin -- you can read it online, you can see -- rather than me try to describe it, what manatees go through before they die. >> wow. chad if they're sick, can they be cured? >> they can. >> do they automatically die? >> they can. they're taking some from port tampa, putting them into very fresh water and surviving. they're saying 99% of ones that they move are surviving, that's good news. but they're finding them dead. you can't move them all, there are so many. this is their ground. this is where they want to be. this is where the water's warm and that warm water obviously could be part of the problem and that's why the alga bloom haze not gone offshore. it's 30, 40 miles offshore. it's up against the coast where
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the manatees are. >> do we think it has anything to do with climate change? >> i don't think anybody really knows. i've read a number of articles, even saying this is probably not a man-made condition. but this is something different this year. there is something going on this year where the bloom is not going away and creating all of this toxin. i think it's too early to say what it is. it could be a wind direction thing where the wind is pushing this bloom against the shore rather than blowing it offshore. we need like a wind coming from the east for a while to push some of this out so fresher water can come back in and i wouldn't call that climate change. i would call it more of the way the weather patterns have been pushing all the red tide, algae blooms up against the shore rather than pushing them back out. >> chad, thank you. appreciate it. nasa says mars could have supported ancient life. what does that mean? we are now officially on chimney watch. the catholic cardinals are at work selecting a new pope meeting inside the sistine
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is it really life on mars? this hour, we might be getting answers. the mars rover called curiosity landed on the red planet last august, and now we are finding out what's in the rocks on mars. john zarrella, you got the info on all of the rocks. i want to know, i want to know if there's life on mars. was there life on mars? >> reporter: well you want the good news or bad news? i will give you -- you know, the bad news is, nasa scientists haven't found life on mars yet and probably isn't any life existing there right now. but, but the good news is that, what they are telling us today is, that they do in fact believe at least at this particular site on mars, maybe all over mars,
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the prerequisite ingredients for life did exist. how did they find it? that's pretty important. that was one of the primary functions of the curiosity mission, go to mars, find out if there weare bliluilding blocks life exist. they drilled into their first rock on mars. they scooped up the dust, the samples from the drill and put it in the on board chemistry lab on the curiosity rover. curiosity has its own capability to analyze samples. you can can see the animation showing that process attacking place. they found sulfur, oxygen, they found some carbon die objectionize and all of those things lead them to believe now, that in fact one point in its ancient past that mars perhaps did -- was a habitable --
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certainly had some habitable regions where life might have existed. that's pretty cool. >> very cool. could have been life on mars at some point, yes? >> reporter: yes, there could have been. microbial life, not talking about -- we make that -- not talking -- >> martians. >> reporter: no, mib krocrobial at best. running water at this particular landing site, the gail crater site where curiosity landed one of the reasons they went there to begin with they believed water was there and believed that ancient life, if it existed on mars, might have existed there now they are saying, in fact it looks like the building blocks are there. they don't have definitive proof that life once existed but that the ingredients were in fact there and were present on mars. >> we are not alone, john. we are not alone. thank you. >> reporter: no, we're not.
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this whole idea of empowering women by the requested of being able to lean into an issue or a way that you can both develop your own self in a broader and a deeper way, but also to be able to help other people. >> former first lady laura bush giving her spin on what it means for women to lean in, the title of cheryl sasheryl sandberg's n. now is the time for women to lean in to their careers not hold back because they're planning to have children. but sandburg's critics say, that's a hard thing to do. here's why -- >> some call sheryl sandberg's
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new book "lean in" a rallying cry for women. she, herself, caws it a feminist manifesto. the 43-year-old coo of facebook urges women to lean into their ambition, don't hold back. >> they start leaning back, they say, i'm busy, i want to have a child one day, i couldn't possibly take on anymore or, i'll still learn on my current job. i've never had a man say that stuff to me. >> reporter: sandburg had sat same message in 2011. >> if several years ago you stop challenging yourself, you're going to be bored. if you work for some guy who you used to sit next to and he should be working for you, you're going to feel undervalued and you won't come back. >> reporter: this mother of two calls on women who plan on being mothers not to stop shooting for the top position at their companies. just because the work life balance is going to be hard. >> maybe it's the fifth year in
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the law firm in say i'm not sure i should go for the partner because i want kids eventually. >> reporter: a firestorm of discussion, can women really have it all? if their ambitious enough. ann marie slaughter a former close adviser to hillary clinton says ambition can only go so far. the real problem is employers and government policy. >> i couldn't make it work with raising then two teenage boys who did need two parent as the home. i was writing this to say, look, just say you have it all, which is what my generation has said for decades is not enough. >> reporter: as first woman ever to serve as director of policy planning for the state department, the 54-year-old stepped down after two years in washington to teach at princeton university. slaughter wrote this now-famous article in the "atlantic" why women still can't have it all. she says sandburg's speech put toods much of the burden on
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women when the system's rigged. her solutions allow more people to work from home, flex time so parents can do parenting and work, not just mothers but fathers as well, require paid family leave in all jobs. >> i don't want to let workplaces off the hook. we need to support all choices that women make but this is a larger social problem and economic problem as well. >> reporter: despite her emphasis on personal ambition, sandburg admits, throughout "lean in" she's had an uphill battle to juggle her own work/life balance despite her best efforts. >> if you think big, if you own your own succeed, if you lead it won't just have external costs but it may cause you personal sacrifice. men make far fewer compromises than women to balance professional success and personal fulfillment. >> up next, why a harvard researcher says women workers are penalized when they ask for
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so say you're negotiating pay for a new job, do you push for higher salary or do you accept the first offer? well, one of the points that facebook ceo sheryl sandberg makes in her book "lean in" is women generally don't feel comfortable asking for more money. sandberg says she almost accepted the first offer that facebook gave her to run the
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social network. >> i was like, are you kidding? you can't take the first offer. i'm, like, well, it is a generous offer and i really want this job. and finally with dave there, my brother-in-law mark looked at me and said, don't make less than any man would make doing this job. there is no man taking this job who would take the first offer. >> wow. all right. joining us, harvard's hannah riley bowles, factory director. you've done a lot of research on this how gender affects salaries, negotiations, all kinds of things. what she describes, is that pretty common that women essentially feel lucky, feel fortunate for what they have been offered instead of asking for more? >> i don't know if they feel lucky and fortunate for what they have been offered but there is a hesitation on women's behalf to negotiate for things like higher compensation. what we have shown in our research is this has to do with the feedback that women get that
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is different from men when they do negotiate for higher pay. so what we looked at in our research is the impressions -- >> let me tell you -- >> so what we looked at in our research is the impressions that men and women make when they negotiate for higher compensation. and what we find is that both men and women, when they negotiate for higher pay, appear less nice, so less warm, agreeable, sensitive to the concerns of others, they also see more demanding, so things like, you know, pushy, presumptuous, cocky, but for women, because when they're negotiating for higher pay, they appear less nice and more demanding. people are disinclined to work with them. our evaluators report they're less inclined to work with a woman who attempted to negotiate for higher pay than one who stayed mum and let the opportunity to negotiate pass. we see no effect for men. >> if you're in a position where you think you should get more money, you would like to negotiate but don't want to come across as somebody who is mean and not flexible, what do you
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do, what do you say? >> well, sheryl sandberg, we got research on this, how women can get what they want and make the impression they want to make and sheryl sandberg describes our strategy as think i, but talk we. you know, the key is that you got to go for what you want, but you need to make clear to the organization that you're taking their perspective, but also why it makes sense for you to negotiate. so i can give you an example, that sheryl uses, talking about negotiating her compensation at facebook. and it is close to what we tested in our research. instead of asking for higher compensation, a woman could say something like, you and i are going to be on the same team. and you want people on your team who negotiate. and so i hope you'll see my negotiating as a strength i'm going to be bringing to the team. >> okay, that's a good point. i guess in some ways we can kind of manipulate the system, but think, their attitudes about le women negotiating for salaries? isn't this kind of the onus on the man as well?
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>> well, of course, yes, the onus is on the man as well. i think it is both. you talk ann marie slaughter, and sheryl sandberg, it is obviously both. people when they hear about this research, some people will say, wow, do i do that? but also very important is, i think, every woman who paves the path and sets the example and starts setting the expectation that women do and can and should negotiate for things like higher compensation, i think that makes a contribution. >> all right. professor hannah riley bowles, thank you very much. appreciate it as always. >> thanks for having me. >> sure. actress valerie harper, she has cancer. and how she's actually staying positive despite being told that she only has a few months to live. s for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one.
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