and it won't get off. >> reporter: even when he nudged it with his paddle -- >> you've got to get off. >> reporter: but less than ten seconds later, this time he stays. the pup had a scuff mark on him. >> he could have had a shark after him. he's got a shark bite on his behind. >> reporter: animal experts review it's more likely the pup was just cold. the sea lion wasn't the only pup trying to climb aboard. in this case, a wave surfboard a thousand miles or so up the coast near seattle washington. this seal pup couldn't make it up, and when he did make it, slipped off the other side, or got a hostile reception from the others. the surfboard's owner had mounted a go pro camera that caught the action. the pup finally ended up nose to butt with the unfriendly pup. back at the kayak, the sea lion stayed aboard for the entire 20-minute paddle to shore, then sat on a rock and finally swam

away. at least he didn't scream bloody murder. seals yelling like humans have now replaced goats yelling like humans. as the yell heard around the internet. this is the second video rick has posted that became famous on youtube. the last one was a blue whale encounter a year and a half ago. >> oh! >> someone said i'm an animal magnet. >> reporter: he then jumped in and shot video of the whale under water. comparisons are being made between the life of rick and the life of pi. one stuck in a boat with a sea lion pup. the other stuck with a tiger. by the way, they say a sea lion's bite can be ten times worse than a pit bull's. no bull. we're not lion. >> oh, my god, you scared me. >> that is the first time we both were like silent watching that. that is so cute! >> the whale.

>> that would be amazing. i'd be a little scared, but in awe. >> that's all the time we have, unfortunately. but "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, another battle between the president and republicans. and this one part "waynes world" part white snake. the conclave has begun. we are looking for the smoke signals. we are still look at smoke. and the man accused of murdering 12 people in a colorado theater was expected to plead insanity today. he showed up at court and we saw him for the first time in months. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the budget drifter walks alone. during the presidential campaign, we learned quite a bit about republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan's musical tastes. >> my play list starts with

ac dc, ends with zeppelin. >> today we learned a little bit more about what falls in between. white snake. ♪ here i go again on my own going down the only road i've ever known like a drifter ♪ >> he's walking alone again. without any support from across the aisle for his budget proposal. when he introduced his latest economic blueprint, it sounded awfully familiar. >> we need to repeal and replace obama care with a better system, with a patient centered system. >> so now let's step into our time machine and head all the way back to march 20th, 2012. with apologies to mike myers. >> we propose that we repeal the president's disastrous health care law. >> all right, so paul ryan walked the only road he's ever known, while the president is at least reaching out to his

republican foes with some very nice dinners and fancy wines. ryan's fellow republican congressman peter king of new york serves on the house financial services committee. good to see you, sir. >> how are you? >> president obama obviously has been making a bit of an effort. is paul ryan doing the same? >> surely he is. i think first of all, putting a budget out there. the president is coming to meet with us tomorrow. and i'm hopeful. this is not going to change overnight. but i think we can have a constructive dialogue and debate. hopefully the democrats come out with their budget. the senate democrats will come up with their budget. the president will come out with his. and all that has to be very positive. but especially the president coming tomorrow can be -- it can signal a new relationship. now there's more to politics, there's more to government than people disliking each other and getting together, but it is a good first step. to me, i'm satisfied the president is coming and i think he can be very helpful. >> paul ryan -- i want to get to the bottom of this.

he says he'll support $4.6 trillion in spending cuts the next ten years. but when i get to what he's going to do, i get a little confused. he's going to cut taxes for everyone. then medicare is going to change, going to become government subsidize private health care plan for people under 55. and it eliminates the federal medicaid program and the states get lump sum grants. if you're cutting taxes by that much, it sounds like -- well, it sounds like you're cutting those other things dramatically, too. >> well yeah. paul lays it out in there. to me, this is a very good blueprint to go forward on. i also support tax cuts. i just think that ultimately, tax cuts do generate more revenue. i come from the jack kemp school of the republican party, which does believe in tax cuts. but again, this is our plan on the table. the president should come forward with his and we'll go forward from there. this is what this is about. this isn't divided government and if paul realizes that, the republican leadership realizes that, we're going with what we

feel is our best case. and he's asking the president to come forward with his. the fact that he's coming in tomorrow, we can go over some of those issues with him and it will be a good first step. >> he's coming in. what's amazing about that, some of your fellow republicans just like you have said he's doing a good job. john mccain had dinner with the president, called his comments sincere. lindsey graham was at the dinner, too, called it serious. i want to play for you now what senator tom coburn said about the president on sunday on "meet the press". >> he is moving in the right direction. i'm proud of him for doing it and i think it's a great thing. >> that's a republican coming out and supporting the president. this sounds like it's more than just rhetoric. it's more than just a visit. do you agree that this is a significant move and outreach by the president? >> it is. especially since he has not really reached out that much over the last several years. i'm not trying to condemn him here. this is a dramatic change by the president meeting with the republicans. i think the last time he did this was in 2009 when he was

first elected, that first week or two that he was in office. so i think it's significant. and it's not the be all and end all, but it's a positive step and he is the president of the united states. he's entitled to respect. entitled to presume that he's being sincere. he's entitled to that. i think it can be a good start. republicans want to show that we can govern in the congress and get things done. and you have paul ryan's budget, the president's. so i'm much more optimistic than i was a month or so ago. having said that, it's still a long way to go. i've been in politics for a long time. >> but then this gets me to a poor part of paul ryan's budget, which doesn't seem to be even remotely close to compromise, that is that obama care is going to get repealed. even chris wallace on fox news was a little bit shocked by that. here's the exchange on that. >> are you saying that as part of your budget, you would assume the repeal of obama care? >> yes. >> that's not going to happen.

>> all right, he said it pretty firmly. that is the truth, congressman. it's not going to happen. >> well, the fact is -- it is opposition obama care, should be repealed. the president obviously wants obama care retained in total. when you get to the total, that's what negotiations are all about. >> all right, but let me ask you this. because this is interesting. eight republican governors have stopped fighting obama care altogether. they've accepted the president's medicaid extension. among them, new jersey governor chris christie, which is currently the frontrunner for the 2016 nomination. chris christie spoke about this decision recently. here he is. >> i am no fan of the affordable care act. i think it's wrong for new jersey and i think it's wrong for america. i fought against it and believe in the long run it will not achieve what it promises. however, it is now the law of the land. >> so forget the fact for a second that the political thing to say is even worse, but 69% of

new jersey voters say he's handling it right. isn't this proof that for your party, it's time to abandon the obama care boogeyman, let that one go? >> first of all, chris christie -- i have great respect for chris christie. i think he'd be a great president. he's representing new jersey with what he feels is best for new jersey. paul ryan has to represent the views of all the republicans -- the majority of republicans in congress. but again, i think once you get to the table and there's negotiations going on, you take it from there. paul is bringing his position to the table. the president will bring his. let's see where it's going to go. there's no need to concede anything up front. >> the final question, some interesting video we saw of you this week in the boxing ring. and you got to have -- you landed some pretty good shots. here you are. you did land some really good shots. there we go. getting in the ring. this is good. and i'm impressed. you don't have any bruises or anything from this. when you got in there, though, and started fighting, who were you imagining punching?

you know, that you deal with every day. >> well, i would say maybe reporters. i'll leave it at that. >> oh! maybe me. >> no, not you, not you, erin. no, seriously, there's a few people i had in mind. i was trying to stay alive. i wasn't really thinking of inflicting the damage. doing that i landed a few shots along the way. >> it looks pretty good there. thanks so much. good to see you, congressman. >> thank you, erin. still "outfront," lance armstrong says he is just like bill clinton. and a ruling in the so called cannibal cop case has legal analysts asking can you go to jail for what you fantasize about? there might be a jail overload if so. you'll meet a professional athlete who decided to give it all up for a higher calling. >> i found that there's a much greater way that i can use the game of soccer, to spread the

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our second story "outfront," black smoke rising. the first ballot has been taken inside the sistine chapel tonight. there is no new pope yet. the secret election got under way after the large wooden doors were closed, and then the cardinals took an oath of secrecy. it is incredible. if you've been there as a tourist, you have the brief moments of what's going on in there. thousands gathered in st. peter's square to watch the chimney. that's where anderson cooper is tonight. anderson, obviously everyone's waiting to see the white smoke, the indication that they have a new pope. i know they have some smoke technology now, so hopefully we will see white or black, not just a shade of gray. but what did you see today? >> yeah, it was very black smoke when it finally did billow out. so clearly, the kinks in past years, they've worked them out. it was very clear with black smoke immediately. it was an extraordinary day.

the pomp and pageantry, the history on display, really impressed. anybody watching on television, or anyone who had the privilege of actually being in st. peter's square. thousands came out throughout the day, even though there was a driving rain. people just kind of wanted to be here, wanted to be part of the history, and as you said, a vote was taken, one single vote, and then we saw the black smoke, meaning no pope has been selected. but sort of the politicking really begins after the vote is done. after they have had dinner, once the conclave is done for the day. and this evening, small groups, 115 cardinals will be meeting one with another discussing the results of this first vote. they will at least now have a sense of who the frontrunners really are, what names are really in contention, and the different blocks are going to be talking with one another, figuring out how they're going to vote tomorrow, and where they

take it from there. >> sort of amazing to watch. maybe in part because there has been no change over so many years. that that's what makes this incredible. i know you're doing a special tonight on "ac 360." what do you have? >> we'll obviously be covering all the day's developments. we'll be talk to john allen, our vatican analyst. also a spoke person for the vatican. trying to give you a sense of what takes place inside that conclave and what happens as soon as the conclave is over for the day. who the frontrunners may be and where things are. really want to give you a sense of what it's like to be here now on this extraordinary day, and really what makes this different from what it was eight years ago and really any other time that we've seen this in our lifetime, is that a pope has not died, so there's a sense of joyfulness i think in the crowds here. there's not the same sort of somberness that we've seen in past years after the death of a pope. >> all right. looking forward to seeing you in a few moments. anderson cooper will be live from rome at the top of the

hour. but as the world awaits for a new pope to be elected, we decided to find out what america's next generations of priests are thinking about. because after all, the future of the catholic church rests in their hands in so many ways. we went to one of the oldest seminaries in america, mount st. mary's in maryland and it's where we found a young man who had the dream life, but gave it up to answer god's call. for 29-year-old chase hilgenbrinck, there is nothing more important than fate. >> there is no doubt in my mind that this is a call from god. >> chase is just a year away from becoming an ordained priest. but joining the priesthood wasn't always his dream. >> the priesthood never seemed to be something i wanted for myself. it wasn't popular. it didn't excite me. >> growing up in a typical catholic family in bloomington, illinois, chase had a passion for soccer. in high school, he played for the under 16 u.s. national team and went on to play at clemson

university. that's before he moved to chile to play in the pros. >> i proved to south america thinking that professional soccer was everything that i wanted for my life. >> but thousands of miles from friends and family, chase suddenly found himself alone and looking to god. >> i remember at that time just hearing the silence in my heart. be my priest. that's about the most uncomfortable thing that i can hear at this point. that's not comfort. and what i want, you know, is to be comfortable playing soccer and maybe a girlfriend and maybe a lot of friends and the limelight and the fame and the money that goes along with it. >> his prayers were answered in 2006. he won a national championship in chile and soon had everything he ever wanted. >> i met a great catholic girl. we started dating and ended updating for a couple years actually. had all kinds of friends. i was truly living the life that i dreamed of. >> but it wasn't enough. chase says something was still missing.

even though he seemed to have it all. >> i'm 25 years old and there's got to be something more. i can't live thinking that i've already experienced everything that i wanted in my life. i knew at that time what it was. i knew that i was called to the priesthood, although i didn't want to accept it. >> three months after signing a contract with major league soccer's new england revolution, chase walked away from the game of his dreams to join the seminary. >> i found that there's a much greater way that i can use the game of soccer, and that's to spread the gospel, to glorify him in everything that i do. now i'm the chaplain of the division one men's soccer team here on campus, so i'm essentially doing more in the sport than i ever have before. >> you've probably heard about the decline in the number of priests. it's pretty stunning. since 1965, the number of catholic priests in america has fallen by nearly a third, but get this -- according to one study, 58% of american catholic boys between the ages of 13 and 18 have considered a vocation in the church, and as we saw, the seminary at mount st. mary's is full of young men like chase

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killer and ex-con michael boysen is now centered around this hotel in lincoln city, oregon, about 90 miles southwest of portland. police are negotiating with him, who allegedly killed his grandparents over the weekend on his first night home with prison. authorities say he is extremely dangerous because they believe he has been stockpiling weapons. casey is "outfront" with new information. what can you tell us? >> reporter: here's what we know. i just spoke with the police chief of lincoln city, oregon. he says negotiations are continuing and that is obviously a good sign. what happened is the police got a tip from a worker, a clerk at this motel this morning. she was watching the morning news and saw a report about michael and the manhunt and she recognized him as someone who had checked into that motel the night before, last night. what's really interesting here is he checked in under his own name and using his own driver's

license, according to police. of course, what they've been really worried about is they found in their investigation since these two murders occurred on either friday night or saturday morning, they found out that he had been searching the internet looking for places to buy guns as far away as nevada. he is a convicted felon, he's had several arrests and convictions involving drugs and robberies. he can't buy a gun in a normal store, so he was looking at gun shows, police say, and that he had made threats to corrections officers, members of his own family. so they were very scared that they didn't know where he was for a long time. now they know where he is, or at least they think they do and they're still negotiating, but no resolution yet, erin. >> a lot of people are going to pay attention to that and the gun show loophole that you mentioned. but what about the motive? they're saying he allegedly killed his grandparents over the weekend when he got out of prison. do they have any idea why? >> they don't have any idea about a motive, but one of the things they're looking into, he was supposed to go to rehab

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we. welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we begin with this, the old adage you can't buy happiness. you sure can buy a seat in congress. according to new findings, it can be done. just costs money.

according to a report, $1.7 million is the average to win a house seat. $10.5 million in the senate. that is only going do go up. after all, the presidential candidates each spent more than a billion dollars in 2012 and says senate races could be $50 million each. surveillance video of a drive-by shooting has been released by the metropolitan police department in washington. this shooting actually took place right near the capitol. early on monday morning. we'll show this to you in slow motion. police say 12 pedestrians were injured by a spray of bullets that came from at least one car. they're looking for two vehicles and calling it an assault with intent to kill. police say a motive hasn't been identified because an investigation is still ongoing. a website has posted what appears to be social security numbers and personal information belonging to a lot of important people in washington and hollywood. first lady michelle obama, beyonce, and even the fbi director robert mueller. pretty shocking. it's not clear whether they were

hacked or whether the information was pulled from public records, but we are told that the secret service and the fbi are investigating and our security expert tells us the u.s. needs to strengthen its data protection laws. we are painful aware the next war will likely include cyber attacks. a coincidence? just a few moments ago, a modified 747 sharing parts with the 787 dreamliner was forced to make an emergency landing in seattle. the faa proposed to have a fix to battery problems and the fire that led to groundings. the parts don't even seem to be able to get off the ground. the fix includes a redesign that would minimize the odds of a battery short circuiting. the faa will only approve the redesign if boeing can pass safety tests. until then, that plane is on the ground. it's 586 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the president is wining and dining. we'll give him credit. that will be today's check.

586 is getting awfully high, people. our fourth story "outfront." the accused colorado mass shooter got arraigned. in a twist, lawyers for james holmes say he actually wasn't ready to enter a plea, so a judge did it for him. issued the standard not guilty plea. holmes is accused of gunning down movie goers at the screening of "the dark knight rises" last year. 12 people died in the incident. 58 were wounded. insanity is expected to be a major part of the proceedings. he could have pled insanity and avoid jail. there's a good chance his lawyers could still pursue that. >> reporter: as james holmes walked into the courtroom, marcus weaver was watching his every move. >> according to what i saw and just being in the same room, i feel that he didn't seem out of touch. >> reporter: there's a good possibility his lawyers will be pursuing an insanity defense. if they do, colorado requires

that holmes undergo extensive psychiatric testing which could include not only a lie detector test, but truth serum. >> the person will be given an i.v. and given a little bit of the medicine and then just start asking him questions and they start talking. >> reporter: dr. max walktell is a forensic psychologist. truth serum can come in different forms, including sodium ppenthial. the problem he says is that truth serum doesn't necessarily work. >> they could be lying. they could be hallucinating and talking about stuff that never happened. they could be making stuff up. all kinds of things can come out of a person's mouth when they're under the influence of a drug like that. >> reporter: none of the experts we talked to seemed to remember truth serum actually being used to evaluate a prisoner. but judge william sylvester has

approved the yoouse of it on hos if he pleads insanity, along with a full mental evaluation of holmes. his lawyers are worried that could end up being used against him. >> if they're seeking the death penalty, anything he says can be used not only to convict him, but to kill him as well. >> reporter: james holmes' parents attended tuesday's hearing but had nothing to say as they were leaving the courthouse. prosecutors say they plan to announce whether or not they'll seek the death penalty against james hoemts at his next court appearance, which is scheduled for april 1st. ted rowlands, cnn, centennial, colorado. now to the infamous police officer known as the cannibal cop. he was convicted today in new york for plotting to kidnap, rape, and cook women. he never carried out his plot. but there was evidence that he took steps to make his cannibalism a reality, including a document found on his wife's laptop called "abducting and cooking kimberly, a blueprint."

they are saying it's a fantasy and he never would have carried it out. is the verdict, a potential lifetime in jail justified? obviously the case itself extremely disturbing, but there are a lot of things when you think about what this could mean, in terms of precedence, that i want to get to. let me start with you, ann. is he being convicted for his thoughts? are you surprised by this? >> both. he's been convicted for his thoughts. it's like a penny for your thoughts. how about prison for your thoughts? shakespeare wrote about this, complaining about the puritans punishing people for their thoughts. that's why in the u.s., we have the first amendment. we have to have an act for a crime, and we have to have intent. he never had an act. we can think all kinds of things in this world and in this country and it's okay if we don't commit a crime. >> let me tell you what was told after reporters after the

verdict. >> this case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly. and we think that the jury just couldn't get past that and they never got to the law. >> is that partially true? she's saying look, this is ugly. know one's trying to say that what he did or thought about was in any way pleasant, but it was still just a thought. wendy, go ahead. >> so here's the interesting thing. it if the only thing the guy did was think bad thoughts, he wouldn't have been charged. lots of people do fantasize. when you mix sex into it, we think even bigger things about fantasy because lots of fantasy on the internet is sexual. but what this guy did wrong -- and he knows exactly what he did and why he was convicted. he went so far beyond fantasizing to naming 24 women that he was going to kill and cook, literally downloading

personal and truthful information about actual women who he was planning to kidnap, kill, and cook. and he even went to the neighborhood of one of the victims after making an agreement with one of his co-conspirators to kill her and kidnap her for $5,000. that's a lot of overt acts. the conspiracy rule of law doesn't require that the final act actually occurred. that's the point. we are allowed to criminalize, prosecute, and punish the plan. why? because we don't want to wait until the person is dead before we do something about it, obviously. >> anne what about that point? you wouldn't want to take the risk. the document about his wife, abducting and cooking kimberly, a blueprint. you wouldn't want to take the risk to get to that point. >> but it was all fantasy. said it was fantasy. even his friend. i keep thinking of that line from moody blues. he said all along, "i'm kidding,

this is just fantasy." going all along, imagine this blueprint. yeah, yeah, yeah. but they didn't do any act. not one overt act, which is required in federal court for conspiracy to convict him. and the fact is he thought creepy, bad thoughts. >> anne, he looked up a woman's name and he went to her neighborhood after making a plan to kidnap her fo $5,000. and let's change the facts a little bit. let's say the guy pretended to be fantasizing about blowing up a plane. then looked on the internet to see when the planes might be arriving. then he went to laguardia. would you honestly be debating whether that guy should be prosecuted? are you kidding me? >> that's totally different. going to the airport. >> he went to the woman's neighborhood. same thing. >> that's a covert act. >> that's an overt act, at least, at least a very serious

overt act. he did a lot of other things. >> covert, overt. >> how much time should he get in jail, wendy? >> he shou he could get a lifetime. >> look, if they really believe that he was planning any of this stuff -- because this stuff does go on. the public doesn't like to think that women could be kidnapped and killed and that there's sadistic stuff going on out there. if that's real, he should get a lot of time behind barcelona. frankly, what i'd like to see is the nypd do an investigation of the case files. he was a cop for six years. he was investigating rain, sexual assault, domestic abuse. i'm taking a guess here, but i'm thinking he wasn't treating those crimes with the right kind of seriousness. and i'd like to know. >> i will hit pause right there. we will keep on. there's going to be an appeal. "outfront" next, lance armstrong says he's bill clinton.

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president obama had a busy day. wasn't just wooing republicans. he met with the sultan of brunei. and during the meeting, the president said this. >> tomorrow, he's going to have a day to take his family to new york. we're going to encourage him to do some shopping because we want to continue to strengthen the u.s. economy. >> you thought that was a joke, right? no. 24. that's the number of umbrellas the sultan of brunei purchased during his last visit to new york city. in 2010, on a whim, the sultan spent more than $500 on novelty umbrellas and over $20,000 on lizard skin handbags. but that was nothing to him. because the sultan spends a lot more than that here in new york.

he's worth more than $20 billion. he owns a fleet of more than 5,000 luxury cars and his own 747, which he actually flew himself to the united states. now, his family includes 12 children by three wives. lives in a 1,788-room palace. they also have homes in london, los angeles, new york, and paris. it is a lifestyle that many of us will never experience, to state the obvious. he spent time in the harem, she saw firsthand how they lived. in december 2011, she came "outfront." >> when i went to this supposed audition or casting, it was supposedly to go and entertain rich businessmen in singapore for what at that time was a tremendous amount of money. for me. $20,000. which was astronomical for two weeks worth of work. and when i got the job, they told me actually you're being invited to be the guest of the

prince of brunei and to attend these parties that he has every night. i said where? i had never even heard of brunei. >> a lot of people haven't heard much about brunei. by the way, check out the book. there's also a scene about the guy that was with the president today. based on the per capita of brunei, it's the fifth richest country in the world, one spot above the united states of america, which explains the sultan of the country of 406,000 people would get the face-to-face with president obama. and now we reach out to our sources around the world. a photo of president mahmoud ahmadinejad is upsetting the clerics. i asked if ahmadinejad is feeling the heat. >> reporter: he is feeling some help. to most people, these images look like nothing more than a simple hug.

that's not how the clerics are seeing it, where strict interpretation of islamic law says men and will can't touch if they're not related. one cleric calling this a sin. another saying ahmadinejad was clowning around and failing to uphold the dignity of iran. this reaction really highlights a growing conflict in iran between ahmadinejad and his political enemies who say he overstepped his power during his two terms, became too big for iran's good. ahmadinejad not up for re-election in june, but he's hoping one of his aides will make a run. this criticism doesn't bode well for his aide or ahmadinejad's last few months in office. erin? now our fifth story "outfront." is lance armstrong bill clinton? the disgraced cyclist says it's only a matter of time before the public forgives him, just like the public forgave bill clinton for the monica lewinsky affair. he says in an interview that people will forgive and forget and remember the good stuff he did. clinton did it.

he loves to work, he loves people, he loves to hustle. he's a hero of mine. he's a tough guy, he's smart. surround himself with good people and ten years later he's president of the world. yes. but can i be done for lance? receive kn all right, stephanie, let me start with you. the americans want to believe in redemption. you've got michael vick of the dog thing playing in the nfl. hugh grant still acting in movies. we all remember that. i'm not going to talk about it. robert downey jr., charlie sheen. the list seems never ending. why can't we believe in lance? >> don't start with me on michael vick. i'm too big a dog lover, erin. but i think the key difference between bill clinton is i think 70% of the american people agreed with me that he shouldn't be impeached for his private life. his cheating had nothing to do with his job. whereas lance's cheating has everything to do with his job and why people believed in him, were inspired by him and it all

turned out to be a lie and it went on for many, many years. >> she raises an interesting point. there's cheating and then there's on for many, many years. >> she raises an interesting point. there's cheating and there's cheating. lance armstrong cheated at a sport at the heart of who he is. they write something that was interesting. clinton faired better in print and on the internet. his cold performance, he was a narcissist, a sociopath, a "d" bag and they did spell it out. >> his whole career wasn't fraudulent and he had one personal issue. it goes beyond doping. if it was just doping, people would forgive him. it's the human violence that came out. he tried to ruin people that were telling the truth. he's still not apologizing to them and he's still got federal

investigations. this is still getting worse, not better. >> what do you think? the president, president clinton was one of the most popular politicians in the country. now, approval ratings of 69%. could lance armstrong be redeemed if the next tour de france winner has a bigger offense? george bush came in, made people angry and clinton looked better. >> when you look at politicians, it's tribal. some are loyal to a republican politician regardless of what he or she does. there's the tribal allegiance. doesn't mean you are going to have a lot of support, but hard core people that identify with you and think you have been mistreated. armstrong doesn't have a constituency. you don't have a group saying we are going to stick with him, no matter what. when you have that group, you can leverage that loyalty to have that recovery that david is

describing. >> or someone like tiger woods, the coverage of his personal life was just as big. he wins again. it wasn't steroids or cheating. >> he's a funny example. he's someone who, you would think he has the tribal loyalty of someone that belongs to his group. he called himself a -- by virtue or doing that, he didn't have a loyalty of any group that sticks up for him despite of what he had done. >> stephanie, we were talking about this today, lance saying he's like bill clinton saying i'm like that, too or i could be like that. what about rob blagojevich? he put's lance's comment to shame. let me play what he had to say. >> then i thought about mandela, dr. king, ghandi and tried to

put moderation on it. idealistically trying to do what's right for people and push back, yeah, i see myself that way. >> i like that response the best. >> the lesson is people will forgive extramarital sex, but not grander of that degree. between newt gingrich, john edwards and arnold schwarzenegger. there's a new low bar, isn't there. unless you are impregnating the housekeeper on the hospital bed next to your dying wife, it's not a big deal anymore. how bad does it have to be, right? >> thanks very much to all three of you. still out front, how facebook can tell your iq. business tripd up to family time. this is my family. this is joe. hi joe! hi there! earn a ton of extra points with the double your hhonors promotion

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