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berman in for ashley banfield. we're going to rome very soon. three votes down, who knows how many to go? it is possible the cardinals have some idea and it's possible that the black smoke we saw this morning, the whole world saw this morning, could turn to white by this afternoon. all we know was anything close to certainty is that right now the 115 cardinal electors who are trying to choose the next pope are filing back into the sistine chapel after their midday break. that is where we find my colleague chris cuomo, he is keeping watch nearby. chris, we were at this all morning together. and these cardinals seem to be doing it fairly efficiently so far? >> certainly. that's the right way to put it, john, because they have moved more briskly than expected through the votes of this morning. why that is, we don't really know. it's certainly the case. and right now is when the excitement returns. here's why. very shortly, the 115 cardinals will finish their sessions of talking and the only real opportunity they have for heavy
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politicking during the conclave and they will turn in the votes. why is this special? here's why. here's a big reason why today, right now, this moment, is a time to be watching. because this is when in the last conclave, this vote is when pope benedict xvi was chosen. even though we hear this conclave may take longer than last time, this was the vote they're about to start right now. it's a good time to be on smoke watch. now we have some headlines today. there was a vatican presser, an opportunity with father lombardi and a couple others came out and were talking. we're going to play you a little sound from it if we have it to play. they said they were getting a lot of phone calls about smoke in the sistine chapel. take a listen. we don't have it. i'll tell you what they said. they said we got a lot of reports about smoke in the sistine chapel but the cardinals are all okay and the frescoes, the paintings are all okay. they did not say there was no problem with smoke. when i bring in john allen in a
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little bit you'll understand why there is a basis for that cause of speculation, given what's happened in the past. we also learned that the pope emeritus, pope benedict xvi has been watching on tv a little of theses going on, the entrance to the conclave, the ceremony and, of course, his influence still very real to these 115 cardinals. now we also know as i check over my shoulder, the weather here not hospitable but it hasn't dampened the spirit of expectation. people are in the square at st. peter's, waiting especially for this vote because of what i told you. let's get over to miguel marquez, monitoring from that position. what is the mood? >> well, the mood is, once again, wet. but people are starting to gather. we believe that they are in there voting right now. it went pretty quickly the last time. the prospect, as you pointed out, of this being a positive vote and a new vote being -- a new pope being elected is possible. so people are starting to pile
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in here. i can say this, the monitors have not gone on inside the square at the moment, so we don't expect that we're going to see anything immediately, but we're guessing in the next half hour, 45 minutes or so, we're going to start watching very intensely and the crowds are clearly gathering. here comes some folks right by me now. guess where they're from? looks like they're american, i'm guessing. it's starting to gather again. we're probably going to see a very, very big crowd here tonight. a lot of anticipation, chris? >> miguel, we're going to be keeping the chimney on the screen at all times. stay with me. i have a question about something else. we have chimney watch full time. miguel, let me ask you about something else that is relevant in the conclave right now. news of a story that you have been covering out of los angeles in america, a settlement in a sexual abuse case involving a priest that also involves cardinal mahony. what do we know about the latest? >> well, look, this was a very old case in his defense.
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preceded his time as archbishop. this was a case in which four alleged victims in civil court settled with the current archbishop several weeks ago. it became public now. a spokesperson for the l.a. dioceses says that this is about, you know, press attention by the attorneys representing those individuals. they also point out that mahony had nothing to do with that. that said, the survivors network and others who are involved with this say, look, mahony was archbishop after this, he dragged his feet in this. mahony also came under fire for even attending the conclave here when he, you know, gave his solemn vow the other day here. that was probably received by a lot of abuse victims with a lot of regrets and frustration because they did not want him to attend this conclave. they wanted him to exempt
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himself or for the other cardinals to ask him simply not to attend, much like cardinal o'brien out of scotland. you know, at least they believe that o'brien exempted himself under pressure and did not examine here to rome to take part in this conclave. so they were hoping that they -- that mahony would not. he did. but they have issues with other cardinals in there. they do agree that it is their right to be there, but they believe that this sex abuse scandal has hurt the church so badly, that it's incumbent upon them not to attend. but they will -- they will work along with the new pope when they are named and -- to the degree they can and hope to get beyond some of these sex abuse issues. chris? >> all right. miguel, thank you very much. please keep your eyes on the roof. i know we're a little bit early but you can't be watching too soon. i've missed the last two. do me a favor, keep the eyes on the chimney so i don't miss it the third time. turn to john allen, our senior
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vatican analyst, senior correspondent for the national catholic reporter. what miguel was talking about with respect to the settlement of the case in california, these aren't suggestions about archbishop mahony. this was -- or cardinal mahony. this was in these lawsuits that they believed they had proof that showed that mahony knew what was going on with this father baker who was the accused in the lawsuit. not to drudge up the past. that's not the point of this question. the point is, he's in that conclave right now. you could argue that there is no bigger issue of public perception facing the catholic church in this one and lombardi came out, father lombardi, the vatican spokesperson, and said we have looked at it, we have reason to believe he belongs in the conclave, your reaction? >> well, you know, cardinal mahony has insisted from the very beginning of this controversy and not just the recent settlement but when the archdiocese released the files, his successor archbishop gomez publicly shamed him saying he
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had been relieved of all of his public responsibilities, when that broke cardinal mahony's argument was i made serious mistakes at the beginning of my tenure but at the end i had turned a corner and los angeles had become a leader against the fight against sexual abuse in the catholic church. look, chris, to your broader point, i think the vast majority of the 115 cardinals in the -- who will be again in the sistine chapel this afternoon, they get that this has been the biggest black eye, the biggest blow to the moral authority of the catholic church, in their lifetime. and so, therefore, i think among the various things they are looking for in the next pope, it is critical to them that the next pope profile as a reformer on the sex abuse crisis, that is, as part of the solution, not as part of the problem. >> okay. lombardi came out and said we think he belongs here, it's going to be controversial on a situation to be clear. let's turn now to what we believe may be going on inside.
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they came out of what could be a politicking session. they are in there. i got a chance to do some reporting finally, when i'm not here listening to you all the time. you have said very well that the past teaches them that if two big names don't get to 77 or don't see a clear path there among the 115 cardinals, they may look for a third. a name we have not heard yet that was offered up to me is cardinal verg loshgs io. john allen has reported many times what we believe from the last conclave was that he was number two, to then joseph ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its
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religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk to the cardinal you got on that bus and could have an audience. >> cooks his own meals. >> stays in his own simple apartment. >> the problem, chris, is that on the heels of a pope who resigned citing age and exhaustion, i think it is going to be difficult for some of these 115 cardinals to see a 76-year-old man who has had his own struggles with fatigue, as the logical successor. >> and there is a little bit of speculation about his health, fair point. again, as we're thinking about if the big names don't deliver early on and they have to look for an alternative, interesting suggestion from a retired cardinal, bergoglio, don't count him out? >> in the conclave of '78, there were two that canceled each
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other out. they went shopping for an alternative and shocked the world by giving us the one from poland who took the world by storm as john paul ii. do not rule out another surprise solution to this conclave. >> so we're going to have to be hearing more about what happens. we're going to be on smoke watch here the entire time. right now, john, as we go back to you in new york, they are beginning the vote that gave us benedict xvi in the last conclave. we think it's going to go longer this time, but you never know. that's why we're watching the chimney, my friend. >> we are certainly watching, chris cuomo, thanks to you, john allen and miguel marquez. head's up to our viewers, watch the chimney on the sistine chapel any time, all the time, live, at cnn.com. if you don't want to miss a thing, go to cnn.com. check it out right now. meanwhile, other news. in oerls, a deepening mystery over the disappearance of an elementary school teacher. terrilyn monette was nominated teacher of the year and out celebrating almost two weeks ago. she was last seen about 4:00 a.m. on march 2nd speaking with
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a man in a bar in this parking lot. her mother talked with cnn earlier saying she believes her daughter was abducted. >> i just want him to know, please bring my baby back home to me. please. it's very hard. it's very hard. i can't sleep at night. i can't sleep at night. i can't eat. i keep thinking about my child and where she could be. i just want her back. so please, if you're listening and watching this, please bring terrilyn home. please. that's all i want. i want her home. >> so hard to hear. our hearts with that family. also missing is monette's 2012 black honda accord. anyone with information on this should contact new orleans police right away. about 30 miles south of new orleans, two members of a tugboat crew were rushed to the hospital when their oil barge struck a natural gas pipeline.
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altogether impossible that some time in the next 45 minutes or hour, not impossible there could be smoke coming out of that chimney. we will bring you that news the second we see anything. meanwhile, other news, in new york, one amazing coincidence, volunteer firefighter michael cosgrove and his colleagues rushed to battle a fire engulfing this house in the hamlet of sullivan. he realized it was his own house. the fire started when a truck crashed into the house. cosgrove's wife and two children were inside at the time. they escaped unharmed. mississippi is taking aim at new york mayor michael bloomberg and his war on sugary drinks. state senators in mississippi approved by a 50-1 vote a bill that would block efforts to ban the sale of large sugary drinks. that move came the same day a judge blocked bloomberg's plan to limit the sale of such drinks in new york city. the mississippi measure is now under review. in ohio, be an emotional rape trial got under way in steubenville, throwing an
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unwanted spotlight on its big red high school football team and two star players charged with raping a 16-year-old girl. some residents accused police of a cover-up to protect the players who are often treated like heros. others blame social media for distorting the actual facts of the case. poppy harlow has been reporting on the story for months. she is in steubenville with more on the case. >> reporter: this picture sparked outrage. a photo of a seemingly unconscious teenage girl carried by two young men. now, about to stand trial, accused of raping her. ma'lik richmond on the left, trent mays on the right. both 16. both star players on the powerful steubenville high school football team say they are innocent. >> at this point, we have denied the allegations. >> she voluntarily got herself intoxicated, not once did you hear her say or any witness the state produced say, she didn't want to do it. >> reporter: not so, says the
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prosecutor. >> she was unresponsive and not in a position of consent and they know about it. and let's be clear, they knew she was drunk. >> reporter: police say the alleged rape occurred during all night partying on august 11th after a varsity football scrimmage. three days later the accuser's mother went to the police with a flash drive including tweets and other possible evidence. social media was abuzz with tweets and videos by fellow teens referring to that night in a vulgar manner. song of the night is "rape me" by nirvana. >> what if that was your daughter? >> but it isn't. >> if that was my daughter i wouldn't care. i would let her be dead. >> reporter: they were arrested by hacking groups anonymous accused law enforcement of not being aggressive enough. >> you're a football player, you get to do what you want as long as you have a winning season. >> has preferential treatment been given to these boys because they're part of the football team? >> that's not true. they're facing charges. no. >> reporter: sheriff believes
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some of what is being posted on-line and social media about the case is false. >> they give us a black eye. when you have people continue to put false information out there, you know, it's tough to make it go away. >> reporter: steubenville police chief bill mccafferty says despite many pleas few witnesses came forward. >> the thing i found disturbing, depending on who actually was there, why didn't somebody stop it? >> reporter: this once thriving eastern ohio steel town, now a shelf its former self, struggling economically. big red football, one of the few bright spots. today it's this alleged rape that has the town in the spotlight. poppy harlow, cnn, steubenville, ohio. >> both of the accused are being tried as juveniles. the case will be decided by a judge and not the jury. i should also tell you, we just got news from poppy inside the courtroom, in ohio, or was, defense attorneys for the defendants have withdrawn their motions to dismiss rape charges against their clients. court has been adjourned for
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approximately an hour. the judge is in chamber talking about the admissibility of some evidence. so again, this is going on as we speak. joining us now on their experts take on this case, of it judge and former juvenile court judge glenda hatchet and david young, court certified mediator and former florida circuit court judge. let me start with you, glenda, we heard that the defense has filed motions, withdrawn their motions to dismiss the charges against them. does that have any significance? >> it does. what happened late yesterday afternoon is that the supreme court in west virginia responding to a wit about these juveniles who are in west virginia, that the defendants want to testify in ohio. it's a little bit complicated. bottom line at the end of the day, the supreme court in west virginia said, listen, the court in west virginia must have a hearing to determine whether they should come back. my guess is, based on them withdrawing this motion this morning, that they have worked
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that part out and that these juveniles will be coming back to ohio to testify. i think one of the conditions will be is that they cannot be shown on camera because they, too, are juveniles. i think that that's what we're seeing going on. the motion itself was based on the fact that they needed these witnesses and without these witnesses, they could not adequately defend their clients. >> okay. so it sounds like mostly a procedural measure right now. >> yes. >> david, do we hear the sense that this case will be different than any other case of high school students charged with rape? >> i don't think so. that's one of the beauties of juvenile court, is you don't have a jury, you have a judge who assumedly is very sensitive to the issues surrounding about juveniles and what they go through and the types of programs that are available. you know, what was interesting to me in this case, is that it was kept in juvenile. it's obvious that the victim, as well as the prosecution, as well as the defense, have all come together to say hey, listen, we don't want this to affect anyone's lives on a permanent
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basis so let's keep it in juvenile, give them sanctions if, in fact, the judge finds they are delinquent and let's move on. >> one of the things that does seem to be fairly unique about this case is the role of social media. it plays a huge role in the event as it happened. it played a role in how people found out about them over the ensuing months. glenda, how will that play in the trial? >> well, it will be admissible, particularly because the prosecutor is going to rely on that clip that we've seen, where she appears to be motionless. you know, the prosecutors are going to say that she was unconscious and, therefore, could not possibly consented to any sexual encounters with these kids. now i'll tell you, though, what really troubles me most about this, not only as a judge, but as a mother, is that there are other people there and apparently didn't do anything to intervene. so i think that for parents, i hope this will be a teachable moment that we'll have a conversation with our teenagers. >> as we said, this trial has really gripped the whole nation. a lot of people watching right
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welcome back, everyone. you're looking at live pictures of the vatican right now in what has to be the most watched chimney in the world. 11 cardinal electors inside in the middle of we believe their fourth vote now to determine the next pope. we will bring you news the minute we have it, if we see smoke, rest assured, we will tell you immediately. meantime a few other stories to tell you about. floridians brace yourselves for a new pest. a giant aggressive breed of mosquito is expected this summer. known as the goloninner, it's
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♪ we're about 30 minutes right now into the afternoon session of the conclave to choose a new pope. the cardinals are running kind of ahead of schedule this morning, so really, we are in smoke watch right now. cnn's chris cuomo has his eyes on that chimney, his eyes on the sky, in rome where it's been frankly fairly rainy. i don't know how it is right now, chris? >> we're choosing to interpret it as influence from above, john. we're just leaving it at that. especially during this particular vote. we believe right now the cardinals should be about halfway through their first vote of the afternoon session.
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this would be their fourth overall ballot. we're going to be very carefully looking at the chimney for two reasons. one, this is the ballot that brought benedict in the last conclave and if there is any smoke, in the next hour, it will have to be white because they only burn ballots that are -- after two, after two votes if they're unsuccessful. the only way to burn it right now would be to burn it if it is successful, white smoke, new pope. that's another reason to pay attention right now. i want to bring in father edward beck, cnn contributor, good to have you as always. >> thank you. >> i had a chance to report and it's interesting we've been talking about the level of politicking, if any, certainly not during the conclave itself, it's more of a ceremony. they use their meal time efficiently, nighttime efficiently. here's an interesting observation given to me by a retired cardinal today. the cardinals whose names are in the voting, they actually get approached by other cardinals and talked to. imagine the line you have to
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walk if you are someone being voted on, given everything you've told us, father, about how you can't seem to be ambitious, but they're being approached and asked, what do you think about this? what do you think about that? how does that add to the analysis of what's going on in there. >> they want to get to know each other better so they have to ask those questions if they haven't been reported publicly. i think it's normal conversation about people who do not get to see each other all the time. especially the foreign cardinals coming in. those in rome get to know oech other. sometimes these guys have never talked to each other face to face. >> right. i think one of the benefits of the insight from this retired cardinal, he was there when ratzinger, then cardinal, was becoming benedict and as his name was closer to 77 he was being approached. you could see that he stepped back from the process a little bit, but also had to engage people who wanted to talk to him. >> from what i've told, yes, they don't want to seem again this is something they
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necessarily desire. it's god's will, i will accept this. you don't want to -- i don't think really cardinal ratzinger wanted it. from all reports he was saying please, not me. would you be willing to take it? is this something you could step up and do. >> i was asking him, does it get a little heated. in a conclave where there's so many big issues involved do the cardinals get a little amped up, a little energetic in this, and he said no and here's why. if you were to come at somebody else, putting aside that we're prayerful men, this is rus relis and all that, if you come to me and say, why don't you want my guy, why don't you want whatever the cardinal is, not to be so, you know, so colloquial about it, all you're doing is sending a signal that cardinal wants to be pope. again, it's like this magic, this magic thing that if they want it, they're automatically removed and that's a big reason why they keep it jen teal. >> publicly it's in a bad form but discussions do go on. they get together and say let's
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talk to this person together and feel him out. that stuff does occur. >> certainly we heard the general congregations that country cardinals were meeting, that similar language groups were meeting and it was a little unusual, that members thought it was odd that this was going on, that they thought it would be more cohesive and it lent to the idea that there was a lot of energy for change and that things needed to be discussed here. and when we look at that, and we look at who we've been talking about, even the mere suggestion of an american pope and that is a legitimate part of the dialog we're told this time, dolan, from new york -- hold on a second. on top of the chimney, a bird. we went from smoke watch to bird watch. ordinarily something that would be completely not worthy of mention, not on this one. it is not a dove. it is like a seagull or something like that on top of the chimney. >> better watch out. he's going to get his feathers ruffled pretty soon. >> maybe he knows something about the smoke we don't. this bird brazenly on top of the
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chimney, obviously protesting that there will be no smoke. i don't know if that's any kind of indication. but worthy of note because we stare at that chimney for hours here because we're trying to just wait, obviously, for something to come out of it. a little moment of levity there. back to what actually matters, which is, dolan from new york, o'malley from boston, why not more energy toward cardinal donald worrell from washington, d.c.? i was told again by this cardinal today, he's the one to look at from america. he is the mix of gravitas, of holiness, and of standing up at his own risk, during the sex abuse scandal and wanting to take steps that were not being taken overall at that time. why not more about him? >> again, this is a very admiral man. if i could give you what i have been told, putting it in cloak yal terms, he's not as sexy. with cardinal o'malley, you have a man who's a franciscan who wears a brown hat -- >> father edward beck, did you offer up as the reason why he is
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not a great papal candidate, he is not a sexy candidate. >> sexy meaning -- let me translate what sexy means. >> please. >> cardinal o'malley in his habit, franciscan poverty, he sees something totally different from what the norm is. cardinal dolan, brash, slapping you on the back, the big image when he enters the room. it's a different persona. cardinal worl is very retie sant, kind, humble, quiet, not a great speaker. just not as effervescent perhaps. i think that's why he doesn't get the same attention as the other two do. >> we do know this if you're going to have this pope send one message to the world, if that message is i came out against the sex abuse scandal and going to change things before you start hearing it spread to other continents can't think of a better message than that. >> that would be a tremendous message. chris cuomo, father beck, thanks to you. i should tell you right now we are watching the sistine chapel chimney.
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you can see it on the bottom of our screen. watch it any time, all the time on cnn.com. there is a bird on top of it right now. we understand who has been sworn to secrecy. for the second straight day, president obama will spend his afternoon on capitol hill, this time meeting with republicans. reminder to watch cnn's new show "the lead" with jake tapper. it starts monday afternoon at 4:00. i am looking forward to that. [ female announcer ] new york strips. sudden trips. mr. wiggles and curling irons. for the little mishaps you feel, use neosporin to help you heal. it kills germs so you heal four days faster neosporin. also try neosporin eczema essentials. neosporin. oh, hi thehey!ill. are you in town for another meeting? yup, i brought my a-team. business trips add up to family time.
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welcome back, everyone. we, of course, are watching the conclave very closely as we speak. 115 cardinals, they are in their fourth vote for pope right now. we have our eyes on the chimney on top of the sistine chapel looking for any signs of smoke. if a few minutes ago there was actually a bird sitting atop the sistine chapel. we do not know what that means. black smoke, white smoke, we know that what means. birds, we're not so sure. meanwhile on capitol hill, the dueling budget plans that everyone is talking about. former republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan introduced his plan yesterday. senate democrats unveil their plan later today. in the middle with his own specific ideas, president obama. he's expressing hope that a deal can be reached, but with this caveat. >> but ultimately it may be that the differences are just too wide. if their position is, we can't do any revenue or we can only do revenue if we gut medicare or gut social security or gut
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medicaid, if that's the position, then we're probably going to not be able to get a deal. >> in what's being called a charm offensive, the president is making another trip to capitol hill this afternoon. this time he will be meeting with house republicans. joined now by wolf blitzer to help us sort this whole thing out. you know, is it fair to call what the president is doing a charm offensive? is charm the right word? is he really making any progress here, wolf? >> if you invite somebody out to dinner, you know, that could be a charm offensive as he did last week. he invited them over for lunch. going up to the hill is pretty important as well. he's going to be meeting as you point out with the house republicans today, the caucus, and he's in effect going into the lion's den. on most of these budget-related issues there is a wide disagreement. yes, republicans are ready to eliminate some of the tax loopholes, some of those exemptions if you will, but they're not ready to see that there's more increased tax revenue as a result. in order to eliminate those loopho loopholes, john, what they want
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to do is reduce tax rates, to make it revenue neutral. in other words, right now, the richest americans, the highest income americans pay 39.6% of their income into taxes. the republicans, paul ryan, the chairman of the budget committee and others, they want to reduce that to 25%. the white house and the democrats say that's never going to happen, at least for the foreseeable future, at least until the economy dramatically were to shift and there would be economic growth, 4%, 5%, 6% a year as opposed to the anemic growth right now. it doesn't look good. my own sense is it doesn't hurt to do this charm offensive, certainly doesn't hurt to engage in a discussion, and maybe, when all the dust settles, they can come up with some sort of compromise. they've got until really the end of july, early august. that's when the nation's debt ceiling has to be raised once again and if they don't do it by then, america's crededy worthiness could be endangered once again, a reduction in america's credit rating.
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there's a lot to discuss. >> you are a hopeful, hopeful man, wolf blitzer. charm is always a good thing. we will see how far charm takes the president with the ideas so die metically opposed. you can join wolf this afternoon as we go inside the tsa's secret store room, on "the situation room" today at 4:00 eastern time. she, of course, came into our lives as a strong and independent rhoda on "the mary tyler moore show." valerie harper is showing us how to face the end of life gracefully and completely and with such courage. [ nyquil bottle ] you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers... [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal co [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't.
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for a body in motion. welcome back, everyone. we have news just in to cnn from upstate new york right now. police are searching for a suspect following multiple shootings in herlick -- herkumer county between syracuse and albany. four are believed dead, two people believed shot and injured. police right now searching for the suspect. this is according to the new york state police right now. again the location is herkimer county, between syracuse and albany. we will bring you more news as it comes in. other news, actress valerie harper is not backing down from her recent cancer diagnosis, despite the fact that it is terminal. she tells our piers morgan it's giving her more reason to embrace life and her loved ones. >> my life is the same. i'm exercising, i'm walking, i'm
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doing book tours. i'm just living my life with the help of dr. natally and their team and dr. ruddnick and i'm just doing one foot in front of the other and i feel much better knowing, and i decided, gee, if this news comes out it's going to be horrifying. by the way, my neighbors immediately called the house, or sent notes, can we bring casseroles? can i cook for you? i thought, yes. and i thought, they think i'm in a wheelchair or laying with tubes. maybe now, while i can still talk, and communicate, and express, we're all terminal. every single one of us. none of us are getting out of this alive, and we don't like to look at death and i don't ask people to do that, but i ask them to accept that death is inevitable. and then leave it alone. live the moment. >> i've never seen anyone -- >> and tell people --
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>> i've never seen anybody who, you know, i've known some people in my life who have been diagnosed with a terminal condition and, you know, to most people it would be the single m the single most crushing thing that ever happened to them. you've reacted in this extraordinarily positive way, which i think is really inspired people. and they're all asking the same thing. where do you feel you get the strength to be like this? >> well, first of all, i'm almost 74. and i have had a magnificent run. the most wonderful husband in the world for 34 years, a great career. and finally after all these years of wanting to be a little stage actress, i got a tony nomination in 2010. at 70 years old, what could be better? but i really looked at my life as blessed. sure, i've had challenges and terrible things happen and loss of dear people and all that. but i really think that if we had left here and resistance
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thing to death, life would be happier. >> it's extraordinary also to me to be interviewing somebody who knows that they have a very short period of time to live. i can't remember doing that before. i was curious before the break and i'm now about -- how do you feel about the time you have left? are there things that you really want to achieve? do you have one of these famous bucket lists now that you think i've got to do this before? >> i have been doing that the last few years without knowing i was ill. people invite me to lunch i go, listen, you're 71, go to lunch. take the day. do that. really. it's interesting because i was doing it and i'm kind of in that mode. and the interesting thing too is that people need to get this early testing is so important. there's a huge amount of people, women who are are getting lung cancer who never smoked or people that stopped smoking 20
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years ago as doctor, it's such a sin it hits them 20 years later. i want to get that message out. that's something i can do. i can also say -- tell people to just keep your chin up and don't go to the funeral. mine or yours or your loved ones until the day of the funeral. because then you miss the life that you have left. so i really feel this is kind of an opportunity. and also responsibility. >> amazing. what inspiration. tonight piers speaks with former house speaker and former presidential candidate newt gingrich. could he be the next apprentice? that's live tonight at 9:00 eastern time.
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welcome back everyone. you're looking at live pictures at the vatican right now. i think we're all having rising levels of anticipation. the intrigue is growing or getting to those key minutes right now where it is possible we could see some smoke rising indicating a decision on the pope. stay with us for that. meanwhile, some other news. it was the last thing that the 41st president ever expected to see. that is george h.w. bush surprised by a flash mob at texas a&m university. students rewrote the lyrics from
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"boot scootin boogie." he did seem to get a kick out of it. other news in new orleans a deepening mystery over the disappearance of an elementary teacher. she was nominated as teacher of the year and celebrating almost fwo tweak two weeks ago. she was seen about 4:00 a.m. on march 2nd speaking with a man in this bar parking lot. her mother talked with cnn earlier saying she believes her daughter was abducted. also missing is her 2012 black honda accord. anyone with information on this should contact the new orleans police immediately. about 30 miles south of new orleans two members of a tug boat crew rushed to the hospital when their oil barge struck a natural gas pipeline. flames shot up about 1,000 feet into the air. the coast guard is letting the flaming tug barge and pipeline burn themselves out. h & r block -- a glitch from h & r block is delaying about 600,000 tax refunds.
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that delay could be up to six weeks. you are affected if you claimed education credits using form 8863. block says you're okay if you filed after february 22nd. the problem's fixed and now working with the irs to get people their money back as soon as possible. stay with us right now. we will have more information from the vatican. we're watching it all day. we'll be right back. so if ydead battery,t tire, need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7.