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unexpected turn on his first day. and -- move over, fox news and glenn beck, a new right wing tv network coming soon to cable. my hot topics panel weighs in. hi, there, i'm brooke wald bin. good to be with you live from new york. thanks for being with me. i want to begin in brooklyn where police remain on guard after two straight days of violent protests. bottles thrown at them, an officer getting a gash to his face. all-out retaliation from some within this community who claim that the nypd shot and killed a teenager they believe wasn't armed saturday night. police say this teen pointed a gun at them and that was a loaded gone that was found at the scene.

>> this was the scene last night in brooklyn. all told, 46 people arrested for disorderly conduct at a vigil. they include the victim's sister. this just after this group of young people learned how 16-year-old kimani grave died, according to our affiliate wpix. we'll get to the autopsy results in just a moment. in the meantime, these protesters, robbing stores, look at this, smashing glass, hitting customers over the head with bottles. stores told to lock down and now a community is on edge. i want to go straight to mary snow, who is live in brooklyn for us right now. mary, tell me just the events, what happened that night? >> reporter: well, brooke, this shooting happened saturday night around 11:30. this is the police account of what happened. the police say there were two

plain-clothed detectives on patrol that night. they came upon a group of teens. they say one broke off, was acting suspiciously and had, according to the police, had aimed a gun, a .38-caliber pistol. and two officers opened fire shortly after that, kimani gray, 16 years old, was pronounced dead. the medical examiner's office is saying he was shot seven times, including two shots to the back, but they don't know the order of those shots. as you can see behind me, there's been a makeshift memorial growing, and many in this community are questioning the police account. there have been vigils several nights since saturday, and as you just saw, some of those vigils turned to protests and they turned violent. the mayor of new york, mayor michael bloomberg talking about this earlier today, was asked

about it, saying it's a nightmare when any teen dies, but promising a full and fair investigation. brooke? >> i know you're saying there's a lot of confusion as far as the shots, where the shots happened, how they happened, people are livid in the community, but what about new york police? what is commissioner ray kelly saying about the police action that night? >> reporter: the police commissioner had been questioned about this at a city council meeting but hasn't really spoken publicly about this, but the police are saying they recovered a gun, and that they have spoken to several witnesses and they have those witnesses on tape telling about what they heard and what they saw. so, you know, the police say they have recovered a gun from this site on saturday night. what people in this community are questioning is was it kimani gray's gun.

brooke, bottom line here is this taps into an underlying anger in this community, and you talk to leaders here and what they'll tell you is that there is just a lot of anger that had been simmering, and that was kind of a breaking point for them. it's just a lot of distrust, they say, among a lot of the young people here in the community when it comes to the police. one of the policies that has been talked about is stop and frisk. we've talked about this before, made a lot of headlines. it's a police tactic that is one of the things that has come up in terms of some of their concerns overall. brooke? >> clearly, a lot of concerns and anger leading to the 46 arrests last night at a vigil of all places. mary snow for us in brooklyn. mary, thank you. to steubenville, ohio, now. two of the star high school football players on trial in juvenile court for raping this teenaged girl. take a look with me, because this is the photo, this was the

picture that was posted on social media, this playing a huge role in this case. it shows these football players, trent mays and malik richmond holding by her hands and feet a seemingly unconscious girl. this was last summer, this was august. now, prosecutors told the court the girl was quote, unquote, substantially impaired at that moment and did not consent to sex. cnn's papi harlow is in stubenville with the latest in court. papi? >> reporter: the alleged victim, a 16-year-old girl, was too drunk to make decisions, saying she was degraded several times over. also saying she was, quote, treated like a toy by the two defendants, 17-year-old trent mays and 16-year-old malik richmond. the defense council for both of those boys maintains they are, indeed, innocent. the state bears the burden of

proof in this. now, one of the witnesses testified saying that the alleged victim, quote, got drunk extremely quickly that night, that they shared about half a bottle of smirnoff vodka throughout the course of the night. another victim talking about that infamous photo of them holding the girl seemingly unconscious. a witness did say that girl was conscious at the time the photo was taken, but she was drunk and could not lift her head. now, the defense has tried to poke holes in these witnesses' testimony, in multiple ways, but mainly saying the witnesses have reconstructed the memory of what happened because they've seen so much social media coverage and general media coverage of that night. also, the defense saying that the alleged victim was not as incapacitated or as drunk as the prosecution is making her out to

be. >> poppy harlow in stubenville. this alleged victim in this case has not taken the stand, but we learned she could as early as this afternoon. a pope of the people, independent, and humble. in fact, newly elected pope francis began his first day as leader of the catholic church by stopping by his hotel to pick up his luggage and pay the bill himself. he then made his way to mass with the cardinals who elected him. traveling to mass, he refused a security detail, even turned down a private car, hopping on a bus with the other cardinals. for more on what's being described as his monk-like existence, chasta is in the birthplace.

hi, shasta. >> reporter: the announcement he'd be the next pope, first from latin america took over from surprise, even here in b u buenos aries. when he was first designated archbishop, he refused to live in the official residence, instead, decided to stay in the third floor apartment right here next to the cathedral where he was living. he cooked his own meals, took public transportation, said he didn't want the limousine with driver. went and bought his newspaper at 5:00 a.m. and chatted with the homeless people on the way. he's a champion of the poor, according to the parishioners here. the first reaction to this announcement was surprise and genuine joy here in buenos aries, but there will be

controver controversies, on social issues, cardinal b cardinal was humble. many considered he's too close to the argentine dictatorship. many mothers killed, disappeared, tortured come to march. they won't be pleased with this appointment because they feel he enabled some of these things or didn't stand up to stop them. although, in the very short term what we do expect is pure enthusiasm over this first latin american pope. >> shasta, thank you. one high-profile republican left off a big ballot for 2016, jeb bush's name not on the straw poll as folks are gathering there in maryland for the annual

c-pac. the political action committee, bush's spokesman tells our own jake tapper bush asked not to be included because, quote, it's too early to think about running for president. by the way, there are 23 people on that ballot. much more from maryland coming up later in the show. don't forget, tune in after this show, jake tapper's show called "the lead" starts monday, 4:00 p.m. eastern, right here on cnn. and here we go again, another carnival cruise ship has trouble. find out why the carnival dream has turned into a nightmare. plus, stopping sexual assaults in the military. why are so many cases unreported and unpunished? we will hear from one of these victims here next. aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. [ kids ] yes!

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cnn has just now learned iran has targeted a u.s. predator drone as it flew over the persian gulf in international airspace. the incident earlier this week saw iranian military aircraft shadow the drone until it left the area. three administration officials have confirmed the incident and all say no shots were fired. the confrontation is just the latest here in iranian efforts to prevent the u.s. military's intelligence gathering operations in that region. meantime, witnesses speaking out about a contagion in the u.s. military. i'm talking about sexual assaults. an estimated 19,000 each and every year carried out with virtual impunity. take a listen to this. it's pretty unbelievable. >> i was raped during military service and during my first assignment.

that was 1988. i was 18 years old. that same year i was raped by another soldier in my unit. another year, i was sexually harassed. between 1990 and 1991, another n.c.o. in my unit began to harass me by inappropriate touching, words, and behavior. this n.c.o. then requested from my command i work directly from him with a work environment with there was no access, words and windowless key entry vault. i didn't know what was happening and at no time did anyone move forward with my formal complaint, nor was anyone willing to discuss the process with me. they did remove him from my team and his apology consisted of him driving by me on base, rolling down his window and saying "sorry." >> sorry. that witness went on to say because she complained, she was drummed out of the army.

serious legal issues to walk through. we're going to do that with sunny hostin who's here with me. cnn legal analyst, hello. >> hello. >> former service member and co-founder of the servicewomen's action network. she testified yesterday, so anu, thank you for being with me. before we get to some of the issues i want you to walk me through, tell me, i know this was personal for you. you say you were harassed, how so? >> well, i was a marine officer, company commander. i had more rank, more so than the average enlisted member, but a marine corps is a place few women serve, about 6% of the marines are female. it's a hostile work environment. i was exposed to rape jokes, pornography, you name it, also commercial exploitation, which was widespread both in the women in the u.s. and overseas where i was deployed at one point. that kind of hostile workplace affects everything you do during the day and how you're respected, your sense of

dignity, but my most significant experience was really as an officer getting reports of harassment and assault from my own troops and i did the right thing by reporting all of those up the chain of command to senior officers, who then swept many of those allegations of rape, assault, harassment, under the rug. that's really -- >> that's the thing, right, it sounds like it's a catch-22 for women in the service if they complain about harassment or they are raped, it just ends up being ultimately, what, swept under the rug in some cases or that person ends out of the military, is that correct? >> absolutely. i think there's a strong sense of careerism among senior and top-level officers and also are so detached from the realities of the average service member that they really don't know what it's like to be a woman in the military, but also many of our victims are male. over 50% of the 19,300 service members who are estimated to be raped or assaulted in 2010 are male. it's not a women's issue. it's an issue of power, domination, of intimidation, and

because the military is so -- in the case of a -- >> that's what i didn't realize with these commanders. anu, let me bring in sunny hostin. obviously, there are issues within the military justice systems. i did not realize that a commander, if you have a military court, they can -- he or she -- can overturn a verdict. >> that's right. really, the military legal system is a system unto itself. it's very, very different from the court system that i work in and the court system that we're all used to in the united states. and what is interesting is, yes, if a commanding officer sort of convenes a court marshal, that person is considered the convening authority. and then after a jury verdict can just disregard a decision and overturn that decision, and it happens more often than people know. i think, though, what's interesting is that there is some legislation that's being

introduced to change that. and i think the real problem is that there isn't that system of checks and balances that we have in our judicial system. >> think that will change ever? ? i do think it will change, but i will say in our system, in the civilian system, a judge can also overturn a jury's verdict, so that is the same. it's just so rarely done and it's an appellate process as opposed to what appears to be just one person being allowed to make that decision. i do think, brooke, that's going to change. >> we'll watch for the changes, sunny hostin and anu, thank you p both. we are just getting breaking news. breaking news here, after months and months after the attack on benghazi, new word on someone in custody. more on that after this break. that want you to represent them. really, who? no. they add too much fragrance. no, they make you wear pink. are you kidding? no. nah. [ telephone rings ]

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another nightmare for carnival and its cruise ship passengers one month after that crippled triumph was towed into mobile, alabama, a different carnival ship, this one called "the dream," is now stranded. difference ship, similar problems, power outages, overflowing toilets. a bit of a nightmare for

thousands of passengers onboard this ship. unlike the triumph, though, this ship isn't adrift in the gulf of mexico, it's docked in philipsburg, st. maarten. >> the bathrooms are not working. they are backing up. there's human waste all over the floor in some of the bathrooms. we spoke to somebody at the front desk and asked them if we could just disembark the ship and go stay at a hotel and provide our own transportation back home, and they would not allow us to do that. >> well, it seems carnival now has made other arrangements. take a listen here to what one passenger told cnn. >> we just heard from our captain, he just made the announcement literally a couple moments ago and said they've made every attempt to repair the issue with the generators on the ship. every attempt unsuccessful, unfortunately. what they just told us now, their miami-base crew is scrambling to make charter plane

arrangements. they are going to have us flown back to orlando, actually. >> carnival says power malfunction occurred during the testing of the ship's emergency generator. this comes days after carnival announced a comprehensive review of its entire fleet. back to the breaking news i promised you before the break, new information after months and months. remember the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. no arrests, months have passed. now suzanne candiotti is learning someone is in custody. we're going to get to her after this break. [ tylenol bottle ] nyquil what are you doing?

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this is cnn breaking news. got some breaking news for you at cnn. after months and months after the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, that was september 11th as of last year. no arrests, finally some news today, someone is in custody. susan candiotti with the breaking news.

what do you know? >> this is the first time as you point out, brooke, someone has been picked up and is in custody with possible connection to that 9/11 attack on that u.s. diplomatic compound. two sources are giving this information to cnn, to both me and cnn analyst paul cruickshank. this man has been identified by both sources as faraj al-shibli. one of the sources tells us he was picked up very recently, within the last couple of days, in libya after coming to that country from pakistan. now, an interpol notice red alert had been put out for him quite some time ago, in fact, a number of years ago, because this is the second time living authorities have been looking for him. back in 1998, this man was being sought in connection with the attack on the murder of a german counterintelligence official, but now we are hearing that, in fact, authorities are looking at him for possible involvement on that attack on our compound

that, of course, killed ambassador chris stevens. exactly. we are following this very closely. it's a big development in this case. we know from other sources have told me over the past several months they have been looking at a group of maybe as many as 15 people that might be connected to this attack and they are making progress all the time each day and eventually the hope is, of course, it will lead to some charges. it's not known at this time this person, faraj al-shibli, has been charged directly in connection with with or just in custody. >> susan candiotti, thank you very much. that is a huge deal, as this would be the first person really in custody over this. i appreciate it. now whether you're a sports fan or have a 401(k), may want to spend extra attention to a couple impressive winning streaks we noticed today, first, the dow. watching the closing numbers on wall street, huge, huge records. the other involving the miami

heat. alison kosik is live at the stock exchange. rachel nichols joins me to talk sports. ladies, let's begin with the dow. alison kosik, dow pretty much going gang busters for ten straight days in the green. good news. >> great news. you know, the last time the dow had this kind of winning streak that lasted this long, it was 1996. you know what, each day the dow has gone up since last tuesday has been a brand new record. here's the thing with this rally, it's not a lot of traders in the game at this point. volume has been really low. many investors are sitting on the sidelines. they are waiting to see what happens next. one analyst puts it this way saying this is water torture for the bulls and the bears, as well. the optimists are worried about the momentum slowing. the pessimists are nervous about the upticks we're seeing. nobody wants to get off the train too early or on too late. here's the reality, though, the harsh reality, it can't last

forever. the question is, when is it going to turn? another expert says everyone has their finger on the trigger waiting to pull it when the moment is right. you can't time the market. it's impossible. >> you can't. perhaps with basketball either. from the bulls and the bears to the heat. rachel nichols, poor kobe. i don't know how his ankle is, but the heat doing pretty well. >> absolutely. look, it helps when you have at least three hall of fame players on your roster. more talent than anyone else in the league, that will get you a 20-game winning streak. then there's this team's conditioning. way back in october, their coach put them through a particularly intense raining camp. a lot of running, a lot of endurance exercises. now, fast forward months and months, almost at the end of the regular season, other teams are starting to get tired in games. you see the heat just aren't. then there's their mental approach. take a listen to lebron james after their win last night. >> we just don't panic. we, you know, you have a streak

like this, you have to have some luck, you know, you have to be able to win some games maybe you thought it wasn't possible to win, but you have to play really good basketball, and you can't never panic, no matter what's going on. as a veteran ball club, we don't panic. we move on to the next play. >> now, brooke, on friday they are going to play at milwaukee, and it might not be one of the teams in the league that causes a lot of reverence, but they have caused the heat some problems. in fact, the last time those two teams played, they thumped the heat by 19 points. so, there's some who think this streak could end as soon as tomorrow. other people think i wouldn't bet against lebron james and the miami heat right now. the record, it's 33 set by the 1972 lakers. we'll see if they can get to that mark. >> it's incredible. what goes up, apparently, goes down, according to the numbers on the dow. hopefully for the heat's sake, it doesn't happen for them. ladies, thank you, on the street beat today, thanks so much. zplmplgt coming up next, our hot topics panel, including the

controversial incentive. have you read this "time" magazine article, offer cash to curb teen pregnancy. plus, move over fox news, a new conservative channel gets ready to hit cable boxes. and a new reality for veronica mars fans as the old tv series breaks new ground in the filming industry and fundraising. my panelists are standing by. the big reveal next. transit fares! as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. no? oh, right. you're thinking of the 1.6 million daily customer care interactions xerox handles. or the 900 million health insurance claims we process. so, it's no surprise to you that companies depend on today's xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. which is...pretty much what we've always stood for. with xerox, you're ready for real business.

time to hit the hot topics. i want to begin with this, this article. it's a must read, this is from time.com, i should say. may just take up our entire conversation. it proposes in order to prevent teen pregnancy you pay young people not to get pregnant. so, specifically every young person who makes it to 21 without impregnanting someone, this is guys too, or the ladies getting pregnant, erica, an early childhood educator and harvard college administrate or penned this article. makes some people uneasy, why should we pay them to do something they ought to be able to manage on their own, but we use financial incentives in all areas of life, children's allowances, tax breaks for home ownership for simple reason, they work. she goes on, it is surprising that we haven't already put the solution to more widespread or

better use. so, she is responding to this new campaign in new york that critics are calling hostile and stigmatizing towards teen parents. you see this display here. these are babies, their pictures are shown. the little girl here says, honestly, mom, chances are he won't stay with you. what happened to me? erica was going to come on and speak with us today, personal reasons she couldn't quite make it. we wanted to just discuss her idea. erin ashburn, mara davis, jack moore, and belmonte jones. welcome to all of you. i'd like to hear from you first. tell me, what do you think paying teens not to get pregnant. good idea, bad idea? >> here's the thing, who's going to rationalize with the teenager, right? if you've got a kid that's 14, 15, 16, whatever you're saying

to them now is not something that's going to hold true. when you're at a party, when you like a boy, you're going to do what you want to do. >> you don't think money talks to teenagers? >> i do not think so. how many things were you told as a teenager if your mom said don't do this, don't do this, but you still end up doing it. i think the ads are rough, too. i think we need to put more attention on these young boys also. it's all the girls. they have everything they have to show for it by being pregnant. the boys don't. i think it's a very tough call. i think it's great that we're opening the conversation, but reasoning with teenagers, i don't think so. >> this author has a counter to it. before we get to that, you say it's ridiculous, lauren ashburn, why? >> it is absolutely ludicrous to be spending government money, giving it to teens who can't keep their pants zipped up. i mean, this is outrageous, this proposal. >> she would say it's money the u.s. government or local governments would be paying to

help these little babies and moms who need money down the road. >> what does that do psychologically, brooke? what does that do to that generation of teens? it says, unless you pay me to do something, i'm not doing it. and i don't think that's how we want to go through life in this society. >> belmonte, i know you're shaking your head. because she's not here, i went to her blog. i wanted to read more about this. to her point on how financial incentives work, we pay people to go to college, student loans, pay people to get married, tax breaks for joint returns, pay people to get fat, farm subsidies, she goes on and on. talks like the smoking sensation study, how you pay people to stop smoking and it worked. belmonte, is the head still shaking? >> none of those things you listed there are sex. these are long-run decisions with buying a house and things like that. pregnancy has to do with sex and more importantly, unprotected

sex. seems a more effective mechanism would be to have a discussion with your teenagers about sex. unfortunately, you're not going to be able to stop them from having sex, as one of the panelists said earlier. this isn't an issue about not being willing to negotiate with teenagers, we need to actually have conversations with teenagers, because if your 15 year old decides he or she wants to have sex, it's probably going to happen. would you rather them talk to you rationally? that makes a lot more sense than money when you consider the financial disincentives to pregnancy already. >> look at the statistics, yes, teen pregnancy rate has fallen 27%, but still 20,000 teen pregnancies happen in new york city each and every year. i think what's interesting about her proposal, she's not talking about ladies getting pregnant, she would reward the guys. i don't know how they would keep track of that. >> how is that possible?

>> in what world would that work? deadbeat dads are a big part of the teen pregnancy problem. there are a plenty of dads that deny they are the father of the baby. the maury povich show has made a living on that fact. to assume the government would be able to keep track of which teenaged men have impregnated women is just ludicrous. the fact that we're thinking about this as the way of handling this problem rather than just, i don't know, acknowledging that teenagers are going to have sex and providing free birth control, maybe that's a good idea to cut down teen pregnancy instead of paying people. also, this assumes that this would cause an end to teen pregnancy, the plan she lays out or the idea is this money would come from -- >> or curb it. >> -- this money would come from the government's money that takes care of teen moms. there would still be teen moms,

now we just have two things to pay for. people are going to have sex and make mistakes. to assume in that heat of passion that an 18 year old's going to be like, oh, wait, i shouldn't do this because i really want that money in three years, that's insane. >> it's not possible. >> one thing to talk about, trying to lose weight, it's not thing to stop smoking, bomanti put it perfectly, this is sex. we have to move on, i love the article. time.com. coming up, talk about the new right-wing tv network set to launch. could it spell trouble for fox news? we'll weigh in on that next.

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here we go. new choice for conservatives. not talking candidates, i'm talking cable tv. the daily beast is reporting this new network, it's called one america news network. it will officially announce its launch at cpac, which is under way today there in the national harbor in maryland. now, "the daily beast" reports this, quote, one america news

network has a two-tier mission, providing opinion-free straight news reporting and right-leaning talk shows. has a twitter page, a website, giving sample newscasts of what is to come in july. ♪ >> good evening, topping our news, a scathing report on the terrorist attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the investigation points the finger at the obama administration's state department. >> the man behind it, broadcaster charles herring, also runs wealth tv. bringing the panel back in. lauren ashburn, just because you cover media, i want to begin with you, reliable, credible, fact-based news with libertarian and conservative voices. how's that supposed to work? >> good luck with that. that's all i have to say. here's the problem, fox news has a motto that says it's fair and balanced, yet because of its primetime lineup of very conservative talk show hosts, it's almost impossible for the

journalists to get their due. secondly, talk about carriage for a minute. current tv, left-leaning network, had tens of millions of subscribers. al gore couldn't make it work. had to sell it to al jazeera. al jazeera is putting together an english-language network. it is really hard to get traction in the tv marketplace, especially if you're going up against a behemoth like fox news, and you're coming out in a report like this? >> and if you read the article on "daily beast," they are saying msnbc is so far left, fox news doesn't quite counter that, so they need something farther to the right than fox. >> good luck. i think fox is going to have to say something about that. i can't imagine they are going to support this very much. >> bomanti? >> if their ideas are going to be farther to the right than fox, i have no idea how in the world they are going to produce straight news reporting. people have asked the question

as to if it's profitable to have news that is not slanted in one direction or another because people want to cheerlead so much, but you can't say on one hand we're going to specifically cater towards one wing in the political experience but tell me it's going to be straight up. what context is going to be offered with the content? >> we'll watch and see. it launches this far. let me move on, veronica mars, anyone? veronica mars will rise again. >> so, are you going to tell me why i'm here or should i just sit back and enjoy your impression of a mildly constipated david caruso? >> actress kristen bell there played the sleuth on the tv show that ran on the cw, on the upn networks, now veronica coming to the big screen fuelled by a record breaking response from fans. this is huge. they responded to this kickstarter drive. the show creator asked fans to show warner bros that there's interest in the movie. guess what, in four hours and 25

minutes fans raised $1 million, the fastest time ever to hit seven digits, this is according to kickstarter, and they are still giving as i speak. latest check in, 45 backers have kicked in $2.7 million. jack, what do you think, power to the fans for making something happen? >> i'm torn, because on one hand, i love veronica mars. i will reveal myself to be a giant veronica mars fan. i don't care if it's designed for teenaged girls. >> do you get a speaking role? >> well, i'm not that far into kickstarted giving, but i may have thrown a few bucks their way, but it does raise an interesting and somewhat concerning question, that is warner bros is now getting this movie for free. this movie has been totally financed by fans, $2.7 million and growing. who knows where this is going to stop. warner bros doesn't have to have

any of the liability financially on the movie. yes, they'll put up money for marketing and distribution, but this is kind of a concern. these people who are donating aren't producers in the traditional sense, they are not going to get a cut if it goes well. it raises kind of concerns for precedent going forward of what's to stop this happening more and more, where big studios take even less of a risk? >> that's the power of social media. >> i totally disagree with that. >> let me quote a super fan, this is a guy that gave $10,000. what i love about kickstart, it's really empowering to say, look, skip the bologna, let's make it and not involve this crazy stupid layer of people who think they know what you want. so, any of you all, do you think the fan -- >> the power of social media is what is driving this. you've seen the internet change television, change viewing experience from passive to interactive. people want to feel like they have a role in something, that,

hey, i donated to that movie. and, we reported on this in "daily download" two years ago. "time" said it's one of the best inventions of the century or something like that. it is really about the people, it is making people in the studios and on networks almost irrelevant. people are going to push for what they want to see. >> otherwise you're going to listen to people in a boardroom who are working for a network and think they know what the audience wants. veronica mars is a hugely popular show, now the fans have spoken out. they are going to get this movie made. how many other shows are like that that were so wonderful and, you know, the network just pulls the plug or they don't like the concept. >> maybe it's a trend. >> i think it's a great thing. >> you think it's a great thing? >> is it enough, now i got to pay $10,000 to see the movie? i mean, spend your money however

you want, but if you give a movie studio money to make a movie, you are a sucker. >> listen, it's up to you. they will on the movie, maybe you're not compensated but do it out of the goodness of your own heart. i didn't give, jack moore did maybe. jack moore, bomani jones, lauren ashburn, thank you. hot topics panel back after this. ♪

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blades on board. any moment, the head of the tsa in the hot seat. will john pistole defend his decision? fury in brooklyn. crowds rising up against police after a teenager is shot and killed. plus -- a party at a crossroads as republicans gather in maryland, the real observation, who isn't there? and -- >> i can't sleep at night. i can't eat. i keep thinking about my child and where she could be. i just want her back. >> no phone call, no warning, no sign of a missing teacher in new orleans. i'll speak live with terrilynn

monette's family begging for her return. and we begin top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin live in new york on this thursday beginning with knives on planes, no problem, or no way? any minute now as we're watching here, tsa chief john pistole will defend his controversial rule change before a house committee. it's the house homeland security committee. expect to see political pushback to this new plan to tsa's plans on allowing these small knives on planes. remember, along with some of these knives, and they have to be under basically two and a half inches, you have pool cues, golf clubs, hockey sticks, novelty bats. that's all okay now. is it okay, though? outrage is growing, delta, american, u.s. airways opposing these upcoming changes. flight attendants, they are furious.

>> we live in a post-9/11 era where our planes are fuller than ever. we're seeing more and more conflict on board, and the reality is that the tsa was created because there was a loss of american life, because that happened here on u.s. soil, and so introducing a scenario where we can be putting millions of passengers at risk with these knives on board is not a good idea. no knives, very simple, no knives, not simple. to some this doesn't make any sense at all. >> we wanted to # get the other side, took us awhile to get someone who agrees with this rule change, but we found him. former security u.s. airlines director joins me. mr. laird, welcome. off the top here, why do you think allowing these smaller knives, some of the sports equipment, on planes is a good thing? >> well, following 9/11, there was a decision made to ban knives because they were used to carry out that terrible event.

the rest of the world, the rest of the world's airlines, through their transportation departments, did not follow the same guidelines as the united states. i think we need to leave the politics out of this. the point of the matter is, what we're concerned about is catastrophic loss of an aircraft. in all my days at northwest, i never recall anybody having incident with a knife, pool cue, golf club with an airline. what we're really trying to do is keep ieds, improvised explosive devices, off airlines. >> i'm glad you bring that up. to the whole question of why, it's because they want screeners to focus less on some of these smaller knives, more on possible explosives. help me to understand, though, how that works. if you're a screener, right, and you're screening and taking that time for screening one thing, why not just screen for the other all at the same time? >> well, i think if you look at the threat of a small blade, it's not worth the time looking for a small-bladed knife.

the truth of the matter is, there are any number of weapons if you think about it that you could smuggle aboard an aircraft that the tsa could never find that would have a sharp edge as sharp as a razor. what about somebody that knows martial arts? i think with a reenforced cockpit door, the real issue is the tsa needs to spend more time at the screening checkpoint looking for the components, these are the very small part that would make up an improvised explosive device. >> if you're looking -- >> sorry. >> -- to small points, does that then take extra time versus looking for a knife? >> sure. and we have to give the tsa screeners the ability to find what they are looking for, and we need to improve the technology at screening checkpoints so they get a better picture of what they are looking for. >> okay, just wanted to be crystal clear on that. i'm no screener expert, just trying to understand.

doug laird, thank you so much. again, we're watching for mr. pistole to testify and we'll bring that to you. meantime, cnn has just learned iran has targeted a u.s. predator drone as it flew over the persian gulf in international airspace. that incident earlier this week saw iranian military aircraft shadow the drone until it left the area. let's go to the pentagon to our correspondent there, barbara starr. barbara, what more do you know about what happened, was this a case of intimidation? >> well, hello, brooke. it is a case of confrontation, perhaps, in the eyes of the united states. this incident earlier this week passed with no shooting on either side. iranian aircraft followed the u.s. drone around for a while and then everybody parted company, but what it underscores, the u.s. says, is that the u.s. military will defend its aircraft in international airspace, that according to a senior pentagon official. this is not the first time that

they have confronted this. the iranians have launched their aircraft before, in fact, late last year, actually, fired at a u.s. drone over the persian gulf. and the concern is this could spiral out of control, that the iranians could feel they could go after these unmanned drones. the u.s. sending the very clear message it will defend them. nobody wants to see it escalate into hostilities, obviously. a couple of incidents over the last many months. this one, the latest. and it comes, of course, as there's growing concern about iran's nuclear program, about iran's involvement in syria, iranian meddling the u.s. sees throughout the region. so, it's just another sort of mark on the wall, if you will, about the heightened tensions, brooke? >> barbara starr, thank you. i want to move on to more breaking news here as we are learning at cnn that a suspect is now in custody in connection, possibly, to the attacks on the u.s. diplomatic compound in

benghazi. susan candiotti has some information. who is this guy? >> he's name is faraj al-shibli, brooke, and authorities we're learning has detained this man in a suspect in connection with the september 11th attack on the u.s. diplomatic compound in benghazi. two sources are telling me and cnn analyst paul cruickshank. both sources identify the suspect as faraj al-shibli. one source briefed on the arrest says he was detained in the past couple of days. he had recently returned from a trip to pakistan, according to one source. it's not known if he's charged in connection with with the case, which led to the deaths of four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. al-shibli comes from a town 50 miles from benghazi. he was a member of a militant group called the libyan islamic fighting group. in 2004, the libyan government reported al-shibli to the united nations on its most wanted list

and listed an interpol red alert seeking his arrest. we also know back in 1998 he was wanted by the libyan government in connection with the murder of a german intelligence official and his wife. this is someone who's been on the radar, certainly, for a long time. we know that the fbi is not giving us any comment about this suspect, who is in custody at this time, and we know of, again, no charges that he may be facing at this time. >> okay, susan, thank you. appreciate it. newly elected pope francis began his first day as the leader of the catholic church by celebrating mass with the cardinals who elected him. but what's making news today is exactly how he got to that mass, after stopping by his hotel to pick up his own luggage, mind you, and pay the bill himself. he refused a private car. he hopped on the bus with the other cardinals. new york cardinal timothy dolan

sat down with cnn's chris cuomo earlier today and shared his thoughts on pope francis, a man being described as the church's most humble pontiff. >> the catholic church is ever-ancient, ever new, it's a beautiful blend, you know, sometimes we look to our church as a grandmother, sometimes we look to her as a young bride. so, there's got to be that combination of things immutable and things that are timely. he'll do it well. all we can do is look at his track record, okay? amazingly simple, sincere, transparent man. a man who deeply loves the poor. a man who's theologically well grounded in the timeless doctrine of the church, okay, and a man who knows how to govern. now, we're going to be able to see those kind of things. i think there may be a touch of simplicity, sincerity, openness. >> and our senior international correspondent jim bidderman is in rome for us.

jim, it was right around this time yesterday we were waiting for the big reveal on the balcony there at st. peter's basilica. in the last 24 hours, what has the response been like? >> reporter: well, i think fantastic, brooke, it's been a lot of very positive comments on the streets of rome. the newspapers were selling out this morning, newspapers, particularly the vatican newspaper, selling out because of the headlines that announced his papacy, and i think, you know, it's indicative of this new pope that it's been, he's a kind of person that loves himself to sort of the common feeling amongst people. they are saying they like the approachability of this new pope. they believe he's going to be setting a different tone. one of the things that the people here are going to be looking forward to, i think, is the next public event, which is on sunday in which he'll come out of the papal apartment windows. those papal apartments are now no longer sealed.

they are unsealed this evening, but they are not going to be lived in. the pope is going to have them renovated and have his own things moved in before he lives in them. in any case, he'll appear in the papal apartment windows on sunday and greet the crowds. then, of course, the big inaugural mass on tuesday when heads of state and around the world are going to be here to officially start the pope's reign, brooke? >> some renovations for the pope's new home from a man who lived in a simple apartment in argentina with a stove to stay warm. jim bidderman in rome, thank you, i appreciate it. coming up -- >> please, return lynn home, please, that's all i want. i want her home. >> a desperate and emotional plea for the return of terrilynn monette, a teacher who disappeared in new orleans nearly two weeks ago. her sister will join me live on what she's hearing next.

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a grieving mother says she firmly believes someone is holding her missing daughter. she is pleading for her return. you may have heard about this. take a listen. >> it's very hard. i can't sleep at night. i can't sleep at night. i can't eat. i keep thinking about my child and where she could be. i just want her back. so, please, if you're listening and you're watching this, please, return lynn home. please. that's all i want. i want her home. >> absolutely heart wrenching. terrilynn monette, a teacher, was last seen 12 days ago, right around 4:00 in the morning, according to police, outside of a bar in new orleans. she had been out that night, apparently celebrating her recent nomination as district-wide teacher of the year. monette and her car both are missing. you see it here, this is a black

honda accord. take a good long look, 2012. just yesterday, the houston-based group called equusearch joined the hunt for monette. they are the ones that ride horseback. they have been looking in bayous and ponds nearby searching. on the phone with me from irvine, california, is terrilynn monette's sister, kandice enclade. kandice, before we get into what your mother talked about, of course, our thoughts are with you and your family. i know you have a 3-week-old at home. terrilynn is the good godmother. i assume she has yet to meet her. >> she hasn't. she was actually going to be coming down for easter to meet her god child. it's just really, really, really heartbreaking that this has happened. >> let me bring your mother back in, because she described what she thinks may have happened, and not happened, to your

sister. here she was. >> i honestly think someone has taken her against her will. that's what i truly believe. there's no way she would have slept in her car, first of all. i find that very odd. terrilynn doesn't sleep in her car. terrilynn is not comfortable unless she's at home in her own bed. there's no way she would have got in her car and went to sleep. and i truly believe someone has her. >> so, kandice, just for clarity's sake, your mom is making reference to what terrilynn's friends told police, just before she went missing, she wanted to get some sleep in her car because she had simply had too much to drink. whatever the case, we know she's vanished. your mother thinks someone has her. is that what you think, as well? >> yes, yes. i honestly believe the same thing. terrilynn is the type of person, she has to shower before bed. she doesn't like to be other at other people's house and stay

the night. i'm her own sister and she barely stays the night at my house, so i mean, to both of us, we feel like she had to be taken, because she wouldn't sleep in her car. she wouldn't. with the fact that the bar was ten minutes away from her, she wouldn't have slept in her car. >> so, you say she wouldn't have slept in her car. we mention equusearch joined the hunt for her. we'll show more pictures of them. they searched a waterway yesterday. are you concerned at all that your sister might have tried to drive home, maybe she ran off the road, maybe into a body of water, is that a possibility in your head? >> i mean, right now you can't rule anything out, you know, until we find the car, that's the main focus. find the car and we'll probably get some answers. i mean -- >> when's the last time you talked to her? >> the last time i talked with

terrilynn was friday evening, 6:30 california time. and she was in good spirits. she was happy. like every -- you know, every media or newspaper, they are saying, you know, she got nominated as teacher of the year. she was very proud of that accomplishment, only being there for a year and a half. >> right. if, you know, forgive me, go ahead. >> no, it's just -- i'm sorry, i'm trying to keep my composure. i'm just really saddened and just upset at the fact that we can't find her car. you know, because if we found her car, that will give us more clue and maybe, you know, even some type of hope in finding her. >> you believe, your mother believes, that someone has her. what would you, if that person was listening right now, what would you tell that person?

>> i just want my sister back, you know, to me it's not even about anything else right now. we just want her back. we just want her in our arms and back safe. that's it. if you can please just hear our cries, terrilynn means so much to everyone, as you can see, all of the community came out to support us, you know, even other law enforcements have been trying to reach out to help us. we just want her back. that's it. >> and you want your 3-week-old to have her god mother and meet her. we hope you find the car, we hope you find her safe and sound. thank you. >> thank you. be right back.

cpac has started. cpac, acronym for conservative political action conference. live pictures here. they are meeting this year in national harbor, maryland. here's an image you may remember. this takes you back a couple of years. this was cpac 2009, rush limbaugh. remember this speech? he fired them up. what you get at cpac, you get a lot of talk about conservative principles, lower taxes, face to the constitution, never bending to the winds of change. well, guess what, marco rubio, you know him, conservative up and comer. just about an hour ago, he talked. he told these folks, here he is, and i quote, the world has changed. that's what he said. then he said, we need to stop the bickering, his word here, bickering, about taxes and smaller government. >> so, while we are here

bickering in this country and arguing about whether we should spend more than we take in, there is a nation trying to supplant us as the leading power in the world. and you may say to yourself, why does that matter? someone may say let someone else take the lead for awhile, believe me, i understand. i do. it's frustrating. >> gloria boerger, our chief political analyst on the cpac beat today. what's interesting is that marco rubio devoted half of his speech to china. he said, that is the issue, not smaller government, it's china. is he trying to change the subject? >> well, he's trying to be a presidential candidate. that's the way i see it. i mean, this is a man who understands that during the last campaign, this issue of president obama not believing in american exceptionallism has a lot of resonance with the base

of the republican party. i think he also knows, because he looks at the polls like lots of republicans, that talking about austerity and deficit cutting isn't enough to get affirmative votes to come into your party, not just with the base, and, you know, that was a problem for mitt romney. he discovered that he couldn't just talk about the financial issues. that it wasn't enough to win a presidential election. and republicans have to become one thing as they go through this soul searching and this identity crisis they are going through. they have to become a party that is actually capable of winning a presidential campaign. so, what you're hearing from marco rubio today is saying, look at me. i'm not just about the budget. i'm about lots of other things, and i care about america being first in the world. >> and maybe look at me come 2016, as you pointed off the top. a lot is being made, a lot of headlines over who's there, who's speaking, and who is not. chris christie for one, we reported this, one of the

nation's most popular republicans perhaps isn't conservative enough for cpac. then you have some other republicans and they are coming out and saying, guys, you're killing us. here's congressman peter king. >> if you can't accept chris christie as a conservative, then you're really just asking for another election loss in 2016 and it makes us look crazy in the eyes of the american people. >> gloria, i know you talk privately to a lot of people, democrats, a lot of republicans. would they agree with peter king? >> yes. i think cpac is in danger of making itself almost irrelevant to a certain degree in terms of the future of the republican party. i mean, this is a group that invited donald trump to speak this time, but did not invite chris christie or bob mcdonald, the governor of virginia, two very prominent and popular republicans in their own states. so, this is clearly the conservative base of the republican party saying, we lost

that election because we didn't have a great candidate, not because we didn't reach out enough. not because we need to rethink some things. but because our messenger was b bad. and this is one part of the republican party that you are seeing. now, there are lots of other republicans like peter king who say, one of the reasons we lost is that we have done little to tell the middle class that we care about them. that we have to reach out on all sorts of levels and inviting donald trump and not inviting chris christie, i would argue, is not a formula for success. >> gloria borger in washington. thank you very much. >> sure. want to remind you thinking of washington, landscape changing just a bit on cnn. jake tapper has a new show called "the lead with jake tapper." it starts right after me. 4:00 eastern monday through friday watch for jake. don't worry, wolf blitzer is not

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this fan really taking the loss a little hard. quote, google prepares to push the button, remember when the web promised mind expansion? deep thoughts. who is this gatsby? >> do you know him? >> he doesn't exist. >> what gatsby? >> beg your pardon, mr. gatsby would like to speak to you. alone. >> this is one of my favorite books of all time. it is now a film, the great gatsby, based, of course, on the classic f. scott fitzgerald novel starring leonardo dicaprio. this has been raising some eyebrows, because typically films that open in the french film festival makes their premier there. first lady michelle obama on the cover of "vogue" magazine for the second time. look at her in that blue.

mrs. obama, part of the magazine's shade issue, which focuses on the quote "beauty and well being of women's bodies." past covers have included brooke shields, scarlet johansson, gisele bundchen. mcdonald's taking a little healthy turn. the fast food giant launching an egg white breakfast sandwich. mickey d's attracting the more health conscious person. an egg white sandwich with yolk, the healthy alternative launches april 22nd. meanwhile, painful loss for the l.a. lakers, especially painful for kobe bryant. watch with me. watch the ankle, if you will. chance to tie the game, misses the shot. here he goes down. falls to the floor with a severe

ankle sprain. the lakers say he is out -- ouch, indefinitely. did the hawks win because of a dirty play? kobe thinks dante jones did it on purpose. >> well, you know, first and foremost, i think officials really need to protect shooters. defensive players can't contest shots, but can't walk underneath players. that's standard for a shooter. >> dante jones tweeted a response, quote, tape doesn't lie. ankle was turned on the floor after the leg kickout that knocked him off balance. i would never try to hurt the man. have you ever given your child a pill to sharpen up his or her mind, make them a little more focused? there is a name for that, a new report says it is just plain wrong. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen has that. elizabeth? >> brooke, a group of pediatric neurologists have gotten together to say enough is

enough. they say, basicallbasically, th tired of parents coming in wanting adhd for their children who don't have adhd. parents want them as study aids, maybe to turn their "b" student into an "a" student, but doctors say they are only for people who actually have adhd. part of the problem is too many problems are 5:acquiescing to parents' requests. these are serious drugs that can have serious side effects. children can develop irritability, insomnia, loss of appetite, or in rare instances, heart arrhythmias. children should only take these drugs when actually they need them. it's important to get a very clear assessment from the doctor. is your kid sort of normal and spacing out or do they truly have adhd? brooke? >> thank you. now on to some huge science

news. physicists believe they have found the so-called god particle. remember when this giant collider happened here, the sciences were working with this huge machine to try to find something that's the thing that gives mass to every object around you and me. so, they actually did find this particle, eliminated all possibility of it being anything but the god particle. this is huge news in the science world. now those researchers want to know one more thing, just what kind of hparticle is it? this next story, i like to do a lot of different things, skydiving, not one of them. this is why. a skydiver fell thousands of feet when both his parachutes failed. both. amazingly, falling from the sky here, no broken bones. crash landed sunday on some freshly plowed dirt in a

vineyard. hopefully there was wine nearby for this poor guy. inches from metal spikes sticking out of the ground. >> i was pretty sure i was about to watch my friend die. >> i completely lucked out, i mean, god watches out for idiots and puppy dogs, and he just let me live and walk away. >> stapleton has done about 7,000 skydiving jumps, and this terrifying fall, he says, will not be his last, because guess what, he says he will skip this weekend, but maybe go next week. chad myers, are you with me on this whole skydiving thing? >> i had a chance to do it in college, i said, you know what, no. >> no, thank you. >> no, thank you. he was doing about 30 miles per hour when he hit the ground, and that's why he actually survived. it wasn't completely undeployed here. the parachute was a little bit opened. without that, he would have looked something more like a

bullet going down, because terminal velocity of man or woman without a parachute is 120 miles per hour. and he was not doing 120, because the parachute was slightly open. this is a picture of what he was trying to do, but there's going to be another parachuter over here. they land on the super bowl and stuff like that, but there are going to be two divers right here holding the one flag. well, the flag got caught up in what it was trying to do and got caught up in the parachute and the parachute couldn't open up all the way. he tried to pull the reserve parachute, it clogged up there. just could not get this thing slowed down enough to not hit the ground a little bit. he did survive, amazing picture. he thinks, though, a little bit of the plowed ground, soft soil, certainly slowed down the impact, rather than hitting a body of hard water or certain concrete. >> sounds like he got lucky landing in a vineyard. drinking a little wine. >> i love his quote, god looks out for idiots. that was his quote. >> idiot, he says, calling

himself one. chad meyers, thank you very much. now to this. samsung launching its new phone tonight. a lot of bells and whistles, including eye-tracking technology. will it take a bite out of apple? alli bell shi joins us next. no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

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public place, you don't have a product launch. here's samsung's version from time square this week. ♪ what's all the fuss? well, we haven't played with it yet, but here's what it might have, eye tracking technology to let you change pages or scroll using only your eyes. touchless gestures, so you can start a text or answer your phone without touching anything. deals with credit card companies to let you pay for online goods seamlessly and looking forward to this, wireless charging. it's setting the stage for another leg of the smartphone wars. it is a war. take a look at apple stock. since a year ago, it's down from where it was in the middle of last year when it was above $700. what's the problem with apple? concern there just isn't enough in the pipeline, not enough new products and buzz. apple is expected to release an update to the iphone 5 and ipad mini, but it's not enough to keep people going.

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a rape trial putting an unwanted national spotlight in a small town in ohio, steubenville the town where the big red high school football team really brings the community together. but today and for really ever since last summer a community divided over this case. you have these two star football players charged with raping a teenage girl during a night of partying that happened last august. trent maze animd malik richmond are in juvenile court today. prosecutors called several teenagers to the stand who attended the parties on the night the alleged rape happened. then you have the pictures like this one, cell phone records also expected to play a huge role in this case. i want to bring in two voices. former federal prosecutor sonny hoftin and criminal defense

attorney drew findling. one of the players told abc that the girl was a willing participant in the photo we just showed. >> after that i didn't think it was fun but at first during that moment -- >> in the moment. >> yes. >> it was a joke picture. >> yes, ma'am. >> so you weren't carrying her out. >> no. my friend texted me and he said that she was saying you guys raped her. >> what did you think when you read that? >> i just texted him like what are you talking about? stop playing with me. >> let me begin with you. i've been hearing that, a joke photo. >> sure. >> of this young woman tied at her hands and ankles. >> and sort of carrying her. you know, i have to tell you, this case is so much about social media and the way our teens today sort of react to situations. in ohio it was interesting that people that see and witness a crime are required to report it.

rather than do that in this case -- >> 50 or some odd teens didn't call for help. they took photographs, posted it on the internet, texted it to each other, and i think that's, you know, such a big part of this case. he is saying it was a joke photo. no one thought the 50 some odd teens there, no one thought they saw anything out of the ordinary. so this, in a sense, is going to be a difficult case for the prosecution because while you would think that photo is something else, i don't know. no one seemed to think anything untoward was going on. it's shocking and sort of a reflection of where we are today in our society with social media and teenagers. drew, as a defense attorney, you hear her saying basically this would be a tough case for the prosecution. how does the defense present this? you have these photos as a defense attorney. what do you think? >> i'll tell you something. this is a difficult case for the defense. here's the reason. this is being tried in juvenile

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