i simply said -- >> now who is splitting hairs? were you trained -- >> some contact with some person and that's all i'm going to say. >> were you trained in these techniques. >> that's all i'm going to say. >> he did acknowledge it was cia training but said no more, so is this true or only a fantasy in his mind, the mind of a man the courts have found to be a killer. we'll leave that question with you. the verdict is now yours to decide in your own mind. again, the choice is guilty, innocent or a third choice, not proven either way. in a few moments we'll show you the verdict that our audience reached when this document was first broadcast, but a look before then am at some of the answers of people who lived through the terror 30 years ago. the prosecutor. >> obviously guilty.

>> the defense attorney. >> not proven. >> one way or the other. the fbi agent in charge? >> guilty of two double homicides. >> sheila baltazar. >> he could have killed all of them. >> the supreme court justice. >> not proven. >> the witness. >> guilty. >> camille bell. >> innocent but stupid. >> that first task force detective. >> no maybes, ifs, guilty. >> right man for those homicides is in jail. >> the original audience verdict guilty, 69%, innocent 4%. not proven either way, 27%.

hello, i'm don lemon. a lot of news to get to this hour. >> i had intention to do it. i'm sorry to put you guys through this. >> that is one of two high school students found guilty of raid in steubenville, ohio. a judge sentenced them to charges they sexually attacked another high school student while she was too drunk to say no. full details from our reporter inside the courtroom the entire

time. at least two people were killed today when a small corporate jet crashed into a neighborhood in south bend, indiana. police say three others were injured. the fatalities were believed to be aboard the plane. reportedly experienced mechanical problems while on a flight from tulsa, oklahoma. members of of the seton high lacrosse team we want for their coach at a memorial service tonight. ♪ the chapel was standing room only. coach christina quigley and her unborn son were killed in a crash. three member of the team are recovering from injuries and unable to attend the service. two inmates escaped from a maximum security prison in a hijacked helicopter in canada.

two gunman boarded a ladder and flew to freedom. diplomat la didn't last long. we'll have a live report in a few minutes. in a case captured the nation attention two teens accused of raping a drunken 16-year-old girl learned their fate today. the high school football players for steubenville's big red never took the stand but maintained their innocence throughout. the judge found them guilty throughout. poppy harlow was in court throughout. >> reporter: hi there, don. as you know, this case has put the town of steubenville, ohio, in the spotlight for months but today the judge made his verdict known to all. the mother of the 16-year-old victim spoke on it for the first time sense trent mays and malik richmond, saying this after

court ended. >> it did not matter what school you lived innings what sport you played, human compassion is not taught by a teacher. you displayed not only a lack of this compassion but a lack of any moral code. your decisions that night affected countless livesing, including those most dear to you. you were your only accuser that you pose to publish your criminal conduct on. my daughter will persevere, grow, move on. i have pity for you both. i hope you fear the lord, repent your action and pray hard for your forgiveness. >> reporter: both teenage boys showing remorse. >> i would like to apologize to booep booep my family, her family. i had no intention to do if. i'm sorry to put you guys through it. i'd just like to -- i just want

you to realize that i'm sorry. i know i ruined her life, for life. the girl was raped during a late night party. >> the court is able to view the demeanor of the witnesses, judge their credibility and weigh the evidence presented to the court. the court has done so in this case and it is the court's decision that both of the defendants are here by adjudicate indicated delinquent beyond a reasonable doubt on all three counts as charged. >> reporter: malik richmond sentenced to one year for rape. trent mays to a minimum of two years, guilty of rape and of taking and distributing an

illegal nude photograph of the victim. mays and richmond will also have to register as sex offenders. the girl was so intoxicated she wasn't able to con sendisenting anything. >> this case is about a 16-year-old girl taken advantage of, toyed with and humiliated and it's time the people responsible are held builtable. >> reporter: eyewitness testimony from three boys, all friends of mays and richmond, and held without damage, said he videotaped mays performing a sexual act on the girl. two others testimonied saying richmond did the same while she was lying naked on the floor.

this is rape. >> this seem to be cautiousness about rape and sex. it's a cavalier attitude. a belief somehow there isn't anything wrong with either of this. >> reporter: text messages, tweets and photos were center of the trial. fellow teens vulgarly joked about the rape. >> what if it was your daughter. >> but it wasn't. >> it it was my i would leave her like dead. >> reporter: this tweet, yeah dude, she was like a dead body. i just needed some sexual attention. now, in addition to handing down this sentence, the court ordered trent mays and malik richmond receive treatment while serving time to ensure they don't commit another sex crime. additionally ohio's attorney held a press conference saying a grand jury will be convened here

to determine whether or not others committed crimes in this incident. don? >> poppy, thank you very much. the state's highest legal authority says this trial may not be over but it's not over. the ohio attorney general wants to convene a grand jury and he wants more people positive answer for what they know. >> there seems to be an unbelievable casualness about rape and sex. it's a cavalier attitude. is a mreef somehow there isn't anything wrong with any of this. rape is not a recreational activity. we cannot bring finality to this without the convening of a grand jury. we have 16 witnesses who wouldn't talk to us. this community desperately needs to know that justice was done

and desperately needs to know no stone was left unturned. >> to talk more about this, paul callan, cnn legal analyst. you're familiar with the steubenville rape attorney. does that mean charges for more people? >> it definitely could mean more charges for other people. there could be other students, other juveniles involved, and also the possibility the parents of the defendants engaged in some kind of cover-up or friends engaged in a cover-up. we don't know whether those specific accusations would be made but those could be the kind of things a grand jury would be investigating. so, there could be additional charges coming down the road if the evidence is there. >> paul, what would a grand jury do a solo jury couldn't do? >> they would compel subpoenas,

individuals to testify. a judge can only hear the case in front of him. a grand jury has far-reaching power. >> is this process over for these boys? can they appeal the verdict? >> yeah, they can appeal the verdict. what you have to say, that courtroom scene today was -- it was a highly emotional scene. a lot of tears by the defendants and, of course, the victim who issued a statement saying tears were shed by the victim as well. these guys got a slap on the wrist in that it was tried as juvenile case. if they were tried as adults as in many other states, they could have been facing 20 years in prison. one will do the year, one may do as much as two years and then they have to register as sex offenders, and is that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. in the overall context of

things, they were treated leniently as how often kids are treated in rape cases. >> let's talk about the person affected most, that's the victim in this case. will she be a part of any future cases if a grand jury is convened? >> i doubt she would be personally involved unless she would have to testify against other students who may have been involved in aiding and abetting in the commission of this crime. i'm not clear precisely what the attorney general is looking into here. as i said, it's one of two things. other people were involved in the crime. that's aiding and abetting the actual rapist or that there was a cover-up after the crime and that sometimes can be as serious as the crime itself depending upon what laws are involved. we'll have to wait to see what the attorney general is looking at. >> thank you, paul. more now on that daring prison escape in canada. police have three people in

custody including one of the escapees and reportedly they have the other one cornered. let's bring in paul dagla, live in montreal. what is the latest on the standoff right now? >> as you mentioned, to know, police at this hour telling us that second escapee that from prison has been cornered or they have him surrounded. they are negotiating with him. they have three men, three people in custody, the other escapee and two others who apparently worked with these escapees to get them out. >> how could something like this happen, escaping from a helicopter, inside a prison? >> reporter: it sound like something from a movie really and has many people here in canada, in quebec baffled. what apparently happened one, perhaps two accomplices got a

helicopter pilot, somehow forced him to fly over this prison fairly low, apparently. someone was able to drop down a ladder, a rope, and those two inmates were able to grab it and quit literally fly away. there are so many amazing bits to this story. one of the interesting bits is that one of the men who escaped prison was able to call a local radio station here in monday freeial a -- montreal and talk about the whole affair. he said he was shot in the calf but this isn't going to end well and i'm ready to die. after that police were able to track down the helicopter that was used in the escape and the pilot. that man was later taken to hospital. he was treated for shock. we're told he's going to be okay but he was able to meet with police and tell his version of the story. and like i said, police at this hour tell us they have the

second inmate, the second escapee surrounded and perhaps it's just now a matter of time. >> we appreciate you joining us on cnn. coming up here, the rnc is unveiling new republican party. all colors, ail ages. i'll explain. the miami heat just sealed their 22nd win in a row. lebron james tells us what he thinks is behind their historic run. sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't.

to take his first trip to the middle east since taking office. he'll arrive in israel to ameet with president netanyahu. the president will also travel to west bank to meet with mahmoud abbas and make a stop in jordan before flying home. republicans will kick off an effort to attract new voters and choose how they nominate their

white house nominee. paul steinhauser joins us. good to see you, not on the campaign trail. we were offered a preview of the plan. let's take a look and then we'll talk. >> it will include hundreds of people, across the country, from coast to coast, hispanic, african-american, asian communities, talking about our party, talking about our brand, talking about what they believe in, going to community events, going to swearing-in ceremonies, being a part of the community on an ongoing basis, paid for by the republican national committee to make the case for our party and our candidates. >> $10 million campaign just for one year. paul, outreach is one thing. but is this all about delivering a message or is is it about modifying that message to make it more appealing to minority voters. >> the republican party chairman has been talking a lot about the

report. it sounds like it's less about changing principles or policies but more about marketing, that's what is tound like. and the chairman also said they need this branding and this marketing not just in the couple of months leading up to a presidential election but they need it year-round and they needed in places, the chairman says, in places they normally don't go like blue states and urban areas. it's obvious why they're doing this. in november republicans didn't win back the senate or presidency and they had a problem with younger voters, minority voters. $10 million is a lot of money and that's why they hope they can make some changes. >> in the impalgbattle ground s we went to a number of them. they're taking a page out of the obama playbook because the

ground games were amazing, they knew people in those and today prebus announced that. what will go beyond voter outreach in this announcement? what else are renting planning, paul? >> when it comes to a couple other areas where republicans really didn't do well compared to the obama campaign and democratic party, digital is one area and they'll put a lot of money and man power into digital to get their message out on social networks. another thing, this is fascinating for people like you and me who follow this, the chairman talked about changing the primary system. they want a more condensed primary system, he wanted it over by april and may. they want to see the convention in june or july. they want to cut back on

debates. there were a lot of debates which were great for us but not for the republican party. a lot of interesting stuff coming out tomorrow. will it make a difference? we'll find out in 2016. >> he said ten debates not 20 where they were beating up on each other. thank you. coming up on first sunday as pontiff, pope francis seems determined to break the mold. ♪ [ jen garner ] what skincare brand is so effective...

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we've seen some great parades this weekend worldwide. it was cold today in dublin, ireland, but the irish spirit and likely irish whiskey kept parade watchers warm. green beer was flowing in boston. it was their 112th sat patricst

patrick's day. a million showed up for the parade. when you think of irish celebrations, you might immediately think of shanghai. probably not. today in the world's most populated cities they had irish dancers, and an east meets west. this traditional chinese dragon dyed green. pope francis gave his first plessing before a cheering crowd in st. peter's square. >> translator: i warmly greet all the pilgrims. thank you for coming. do pray for me, please.prayers. forgiveness was a key theme in the pope's address. he sent out a message on his

twitter account asking people to pray for him. pope francis doesn't seem to be a stickler for papal traditions. ben wiedemann has more from rome. >> reporter: francis seems to be shaping up to become the people's pope. it could be any church. the friese greeting worshippers one by one after sunday's mass but it wasn't any church and it wasn't any priest. it was pope francis at the santa ana parish church in the vatican. his charm offensive moving full steam ahead. he stepped outside the vatican and into italian territory to greet well-wishers. >> i was watching some of the video when he came out of church. he seems personable. he was really connecting with the people. >> reporter: first sunday as pope, francis appeared at the window of his papal apartment overlooking a packed st. peter's

square. speaking of forgiveness and compassion. and eliciting a laugh when he insisted he wasn't providing freed ver tiesing for a cardinal whose writings he prad. he ended his message with a simple wish, have a good sunday and have a good lunch. four days on the job and pope francis is already shaking things up. even his own television station, vatican tv, is calling him the unpredictable pope. maria, argentinean, like the pope, already feels closer to the church. >> one of the problems the catholic church has this is they were so high and he were low. now he's coming closer and we are very happy for that. >> reporter: his personal style is going down well. >> he seems like a very nice guy, very humble, very down to earth.

>> reporter: with a new hand at the vatican's helm, the faithful are dancing to a new rhythm. and it's a rhythm that might bring new life to a church in need of change. ben wedeman, cnn, rome. it's still one of the most powerful images from iraq, the marlboro marine. eezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't.

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breaking news and this is history. the war in iraq is officially over. u.s. troops are moving across the board into kuwait. i remember that evening well when i announced on cnn that all u.s. combat troops left iraq. that was december of 2011. this week will mark the tenth anniversary of the iraq invasion. march 19th here in the states, march 20th baghdad time in 2003. america's part of the war may be over but iraq remains a violent and unstable place. a car bomb killed at least ten people just today in northern iraq. remember this face? it remains one of the most powerful and lasting images of america's involvement in the iraq war. this is a u.s. marine. his photo was taken by a "los angeles times" photographer in falluja in 2004. we wanted to check in and see where this marine is today so we

asked the man who took the picture. >> i found myself involved in the assault in falluja. we were under constant enemy fire. >> looking back at it, fire, to have it justified. >> we were up on the rooftop and a break in the action, he propped up next to me and starting smoking a cigarette. >> after falluja i tried to act like it had never happened. >> it shows a kid that had basically gone through a horrifying experience, traumatic experience. >> the first time i thought about committing suicide was in iraq. maybe a week after we came out of falluja. >> i did not see him for a good year after falluja. his company was deployed to katrina, but i did not know that he was suffering from ptsd.

>> to connect with other vets, i didn't have another vet that i could lean on. >> when i was there for the first visit, he said you should come to my wedding. i ended up going to his wedding. it was so emotional for him, within a two, three week period he was completely spinning out of control. >> there was so much counseling that had to be done for myself that i really couldn't deal with mine and jessica's problems on top of it. >> his wife ended up calling me, saying she hadn't seen him in days, could i come over and help look for him. >> i felt that it was something i brought on myself and that was, you know, my weight to carry, not hers. and before i put her through that, i'd rather be without her. >> i went to his uncle's house. he looked horrible. >> i had more or less planned out my death. and i was actually kind of happy for a moment, thinking i wasn't going to feel anything soon. >> there was a lot of carnage in that battle. there were a lot of young men,

boys, dead in the street. and i thought to myself, one more death out of that? was i supposed to hang out long enough to get the photo of himself putting the gun to his head? i cannot do that. i stepped in and said, let's get you some help. >> i'm glad i'm still here. confused as to why i'm still here and others are not. >> he's intensely private now. he had been under the spotlight for many, many years, beginning with the publication of that photo. i think he just wants to move on. >> as much as you want things to be the same, they can never be that way again. >> he is doing all right. he's back together with jessica. he's met a doctor that has helped him with his physical problems and is actually getting enough trust from blake to have blake see a doctor about his mental issue.

>> any day above ground is a good one. there's no promise of tomorrow. >> it's going on nine years since i took that photograph. there hasn't been a day that it hasn't crossed my mind. the meaning i find in it is it's about survival. when you survive that, that's the sweetest victory. >> one more note about the iraq war. as we remember ten years since it began. and this note is mostly numbers. brown university report found the u.s. war in iraq cost $1.7 trillion, with nearly half trillion in benefits owed to iraq veterans. analyst expects the veterans bill to grow to $6 trillion. more than 4,000 american troops died in the iraq war. that brown report estimates

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the nba's miami heat have done it again. they won their 22nd in a row beating the toronto raptors 108-91. the heat, now they've tied for second. second longest winning streak in league history. they face a tough challenge tomorrow against boston. heat star lebron james says his team is ready. >> well, i think most important thing for us tomorrow is our intensity. you know, we're going in there, we know they're going to be ready for us. we'll be ready for the game. it's a team we could possibly see in the playoffs. so, you know, i'm not worried about our level of play, our level of focus because we know what type of team they're playing. >> you can see more of lebron

james tomorrow. we interview james. you can see it on "the lead" with jake tapper at 4 p.m. right here. the 68-team bracket is set. march madness has arrived. rex chapman is here to break it down. he writes for ncaa.com and analyzing the tournament for our friends over at turner sports. you're an outstanding player yourself not too long ago. so, louisville is a top seed overall. kansas, gonzaga, louisville, other number ones. any surprises for these brackets, you think? >> well, you know, i'm a university of kentucky alum, and unfortunately my wildcats didn't make the field this year. it's not something that happens every year. i'm its a little upset.

>> what happened? >> tough year. a whole different team this year. all of our guys left and went to the nba last year. came back with a whole new group. >> best player -- >> yeah, and best player got hurt, tore his acl. but a great tournament set up. >> there's a cinderella story. do you see one this time? >> it's hard to call a number one seed a cinderella, but gonzaga has been the cinderella. they really a team highly thought of going into this season. they're 30-2. they maybe haven't played as good a schedule as some of the top teams in the country but they're talented, mark few is a great coach and this team can really make some noise. i'd be surprised if they're not in the final four. >> i said earlier it's going to be gonzaga and kansas. and kansas is going to come out on top. first i said gonzaga but

something said kansas. >> bill self is a great coach, terrific players. one freshman who is absolutely phenomenal, ben mclemore, we'll be talking about him in the nba in a few years but i really like the louisville cardinals. rick pitino is a great coach. they gave my cardinals a tough run last year. got everybody back, new players, and rick always has his team ready to play. >> did you see the giant brackets down in the a tree yum? >> i didn't. >> show that. >> wow. >> tomorrow the mayor and ceo of turner broadcasting, are going to be out there doing their brackets. climb up on a ladder -- >> that's cool. >> it's amazing. we were excited here. what do you do when you as a former basketball player, what do do you for march madness? do you sit at home eating it up,

chicken wings and beer? >> oh, yeah. it's the best time of the year. college basketball, doesn't get any better. i enjoy the nba but watching the college kids, there's always that measure of uncertainty going on so it's a lot of fun. >> my sheet of paper, that's for my brackets. i'm sew litting help for everybody. good to see you. good luck with your brackets and mine as well. coming up, it was meant to be a minority outreach panel but a conservative was sent into a tailspin. nasal congestion?relieve sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little

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a man appeared to defend the benefits of slavery at a huge gathering called cpac. i want to show you a bit. >> when they escaped from slavery, 10, 15 years he writes a letter and said, i forgive you for all the things i forgive you. >> give me shelter -- >> no. >> so, i spoke with our political panel about this incident. >> it's stupid. it's racist. there should be no room for that in the republican party. there should be no room for that in america but it also did not happen at an official cpac

event. you should know cpac is a fund-raiser and every sponsor gets two hours to put on their oenl pan own panel. i have spoken to cpac leadership about this particular incident. they have the information on this man. they're not ever going to allow him into cpac event again, but, you know, there were 10,000 people that went through there in three days. you ever been to any political event where there's thousands of people, you know it's very hard to keep some jerks out, to keep the crazy out. you've got 10,000 people in three days. i can also tell you that cpac did great efforts to have more diversity than i've ever seen at cpac. they had ten black conservative speakers on this stage. official cpac events. that doesn't sound like much, but you try to find ten conservative black speakers and you tell me if it's not a great effort on the part of cpac. >> is if fair to link this one guy that stood up, link him to the republican effort and cpac

in any way? >> i think it's fair to link him to the republican party but i don't think it's fair to paint the entire republican party to this one person. we have to see where the tide turned, civil rights law signed by lyndon johnson. to paraphrase, he said i lost the south for a generation. if you peel back what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea of diversity is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party. since the signing of this law, democrats have had a difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states of the traditional southern states. and racial tension isn't part of that bloc. if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having diversity, it needs to acknowledge, acknowledge, not say this is who we are, but acknowledge that that part of our history is who still continues to make up a small fraction of the republican party.

we're not going to allow these people to be there anymore. a cnn employee who has had shells thrown at her and called a monkey. had they gone on stage and said this is not tolerated here at the rnc, we would not embrace these people. but they didn't do that. they ignored it. >> with all the other stories going on, you may have missed this one. this week an assault ban bill was okayed for the full senate to take up. we ask you, does it have a chance? [ nyquil bottle ] hey tylenol, you know we're kinda like twins. [ tylenol bottle ] we are? yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't.

this week a senate panel sent a proposed ban on assault weapons to the full senate for a vote. it would be the first real test since the president began what's considered the biggest push for gun control in decades. the bill sponsor dianne feinstein admitted the road is uphill. earlier political comedian dean put a question on social media. he's got like seven twitter

followers so i think -- >> i just moved up. i had six, now up to seven. i'm feeling pretty good about myself. >> so, we asked, whether you think this ban has a chance of getting through congress. so, here's what one person says. hate to poop on your parade but boehner won't let it go to the floor for a vote. could make gop vulnerable before 2014 elections. one writes to dean, it will never get through the house unless obama comes out against it. so, people seem skeptical about congress. is that shocking? >> it's not shocking at all. you know what makes it unbelievable to all of us is 90% of americans in polls support universal background check for anyone to buy a gun, to close the gun show loophole but still this is may not pass congress. forget the assault weapon ban. congress does nothing. doesn't work on budget, doesn't pass gun control.

we should take a page from the nhl owners and nba owners and lock congress out for a month. let them work in a parking lot or motel 6 because they're not doing the job. republicans a >> i stopped reading tweets on the air but i'm doing it just for you. >> this is big. a new retro. >> we followed up those skeptics with this question, how can we push congress to just get things done. one of your fans tweeted, i'd lock them all in the room with same stuff they feed federal prisoners and not them out nlg they get something done. another said, make their paychecks tied to performance like they do teacher. >> those are all great ideas, don. i think the last one with justin bieber music would violate the cruel and unusual amendment. but people are upset with congress. congress has to do something

here. it's beyond me, frankly, what we can do as -- with complain about congress yet we re-elect 90% just last time. it's from ustrating yet we do nothing about it on election day. that's where we need to wake up. >> we're having fun but it's a serious issue. this is just a senate panel now. if this goes to the floor, it's going to be a big deal. >> it won't get to a vote. they will not -- they need 60 votes to stop discussion on any piece of legislation in the senate. it's clear from anyone they won't get the 60 vote, even to stop debating on universal background check, which is remarkable to me. when you have over 90% of americans, gun owners, except one big organization, nra and certain fringe republicans. it's shocking to me. >> power of one big lobbying group. >> they're not even that big. >> good to see you.

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