it will be impossible to get elected with young people without somehow figuring how to resolve that. >> interesting to watch supreme court and arizona and shaka. >> i'll watch shaka. "cnn newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. see you tomorrow, everybody. >> lhappening now, same-sex meaning front and center. this morning, how our nation defines marriage on the line. >> not something that should be imposed on the american people. >> i believe in equality. and i also believe in the judicial system and i have great faith inform it. more than anything, i believe in love. >> facebook and twitter, with response you will see everywhere. >> response to the stubbenville rape case. the internet video exploding.

and prince harry will come to see sandy victims. this ain't vegas. >> believe me, nobody is going to get naked. >> no full monty. no nude romps in a hotel room. keep it clean. papa christie is watching. live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. thank you for being with me. i'm carol costello. we begin with north korea's blige rant talk of war turning to action. the communist regime, cutting off a key communication hotline to south korea, because it says war may break out at any moment. it ratchets tensions even higher after weeks of threats. joining us is christopher hill, a career diplomat. several years ago, he led talks with north korea over its nuclear arms program. ambassador, welcome.

>> thank you. >> we've heard this kind of talk from north korea before. how worried should we be? >> we certainly have heard this kind of talk before. but this is rather prolonged and intense, and i don't think we should be ignoring this. at the same time, i think there is a big element of domestic north korea politics that one can understand that concept. clearly this kim jung-un is not being well received and they are trying to boost his status, some sort of war-time leader, obviously bears very close watching. >> may be saying things like turning seoul into a sea of fire and nuking the united states. just to improve his image at home? >> yeah, believe it or not. but that said, these threats have gone on for some time. they have really engaged the north koreans in public. herded people in bomb shelters, painted city buses camouflage.

this has gone on much further and to ignore it would be at our peril. we really need to keep focused on it. that said, we have a u.s. military and a south korean military who obviously have eyes on the north korean military and a very good sense of what the north korean military is really gearing up or if this is entirely political. >> what does the united states do? >> i think, first of all, we need to work very closely with partner, south korea, with japan, clearly secretary haggle, first thing he did out of the box was announce missile defense that we will deploy in south korea. that's very important. second very important element was to deal with the chinese, who have much more in with the north koreans than anyone else, and thirdly, we need to be calm in the face of provocation, not put any fuel on the fire. >> ambassador christopher hill, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you.

now let's turn to a man who was once one of washington's most respected leaders, now he's apologizing for the sex scandal that ruined his career. david petraeus was unanimously confirmed as director of the cia. his downfall swift and breath taking. he acknowledged an extramarital affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. he opened a rare public appearance with a very personal apology. >> please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for. the circumstances that led to my resignation from the cia and caused such pain for my family, friends, and supporters. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon this morning. chris, petraeus spoke at a dinner honoring the military at southern california, where he made the remarks.

how is he viewed by the military today? >> carol, i've been asking that question to a lot of folks over the past several months, and basically the thing i have got from all of this, the folks who love david petraeus before this, still love him. the people who weren't that keen on him still don't like him today a lot of people in the military gave him the nickname, king david. felt he was too ingratiated to the media, also looking to sort of inflate his own profile and that rubbed some people in the military the wrong way. other folks i talked to said he was incredibly intelligent. that he liked to surround himself with other intelligent people and wasn't afraid to sort of step out of the box and apply different things he learned in military strategy. he said and said last night basically that overcoming this rocky path he himself created is vital and something he's obligated to do.

>> i know that i can never fully aswage the pain that i inflicked on those closest to me and a number of others. i can, however, try to move forward and as best possible to make amends to those who i have hurt. >> obviously, that starts with his wife holly, a big advocate for veterans issues over the years. she did not attend this speech last night. carol. >> chris lawrence, reporting live from the pentagon this morning. let's head to the u.s. supreme court, where small crowds are starting to gather outside and history could be unfolding inside. justices wading into the second day of arguments over same-sex marriage. today, over the defense of marriage act, doma, a federal law which defines marriage between a man and woman. a sobering concept to yesterday when thousands of people circled the iconic marble building. any decision could be months away, but the impact that

profoundly affects american culture and how families are legally defined. cnn's joe johns outside the court. good morning, joe. >> good morning, carol. this case is very much about the pocketbook and what the federal defense of marriage act does when it treats same-sex couples differently than straight couples. the focus on a woman in her 80s name e ed eddie windsor when sht a huge tax bill when her spouse died. all followed by one day when the supreme court took up proposition 8 in california. same-sex marriage week at the supreme court. day one. culture war on the docket. >> the place for the decision to be made regarding redefining marriage is with the people. not with the courts. >> reporter: charles cooper, the lawyer in favor of california's proposition 8, argues traditi traditional marriage must be preserved for straight couples because it's all about pro creation. but justice elena kagan picked

that apart, asking if a state could deny a marriage license to people over 55. >> if you're over the age of 55, you doan help us serve the government's interest in regulating pro creation through marriage, so why is that different? >> your honor, even with respect to couples over the age of 55, it is very rare that both couples -- both parties to the couple are infer tile, and the traditional -- >> i can just assure you, if both the woman and the man are over the age of 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage. >> reporter: justice antonin scalia tried to pin down ted olson on when gays and less byians first got the right to marry. >> i'm curious. when did it become unconstitutional to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? >> may i answer this in the form of a rhetorical question? when did it become

unconstitutional to prohibit interracial marriages? >> reporter: the question even got asked, whether same-sex marriage has been around long enough to understand its social impact. justice anthony kennedy questioned whether the court should have taken up the case at all. but he also seemed worried about almost 40,000 children of same-sex children already in california. >> they want their parents to have full recognition and full status. the voice of those children is important in this case. >> justice kennedy himself is seen as very important, because he could be the swing vote if this is a close case. none of this expected to be decided before sometime in june. carol. >> fascinating, joe johns live from the supreme court this morning. other top stories. new clues detailing the connection between slain colorado prison chief tom clements and the suspect in his murder, evan ebel. there are reports there was some kind of encounter at clements'

door, possibly a struggle. whatever the encounter, it only lasted a few minutes. directions to clements' house found in ebel's car in texas. and the sheriff's deputy shot by clements remembers what happened when he pulled the gunman over. >> at that point in time, i remember seeing the gun, shoot off a number of amount of times, and i could see the car just fly. at which point i blacked out. no clue if i was standing, sitting laying, whatever. >> deputy boyd remains in the hospital. he is expected to make a full recovery. about to show you what a young man does to a girl while she's passed out on a couch. not what you think. watch this. >> hey, guys. can't be passed out on a couch. guess what i'm going to do to

her. real men treat women with respect. >> there you go. the youtube public service video made by a university of oregon student who says she was frustrated by the stubbenville rape case. this was called a needed response. it's already gotten more than 1 million views. other top stories, incredible video out of china fast reaction of a bus driver. carrying 26 passengers when a lamp post collapsed and smashed through the windshield. the driver able to stop the bus, get out of the way just in time. but he suffered a ruptured spleen. ow! the miami heat looking for number 28 tonight. putting them in five games of the all-time nba mark. redemption for the record books. joe carter here to talk about

that. all is forgiven. >> that nike ad we talked about yesterday. maybe it's more appropriate for lebron james. it sort of is. we saw it last week when lebron and miami heat went back to cleveland. and there were some fans in the stands wearing lebron jerseys. he did receive some cheers. a big change from a year ago when he was booed when they touched the ball. you are from cleveland. >> oh, yeah, it was nasty. >> is there a seismic shift among cleveland fans? are they happy for his success in miami? >> i think they want him to come back and want the cavaliers to win, they think that, whether it takes lebron coming back or not. not sure it's a seismic shift, but it does matter lebron is a winner, when he first went to the heat, the hasn't wasn't doing so well and it is now. >> and a locality of tat of tal

returning to cleveland. in order for the miami heat to be the miami heat, it's very expensive. you have a pretty good team in cleveland and lebron, a lot of years left in his legs. >> he ain't coming back, come on. >> it's a possibility. we're seeing something special in sports. aside from the '71, 72 lakers, no team won this many games in a row. sports fans are rooting on a possible history-making event here. i think are they ready to cheer for lebron and the miami heat? not quite sure about that. i'm a denver nuggets fan. i'm a sports fan. i'm enjoying seeing that. i wasn't alive during the '71-72 streak. and the way they are winning is captivating sports fans, coming behind and going on the road. two games tonight and sunday against the spurs, a lot of people sir cling thcircling tha.

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from the desk of chris christie to prince harry, new jersey is not las vegas, the prince will visit new jersey in may to see the devastation from sandy. he'll also make stops in d.c., colorado, new york, and connecticut. you might remember last year,

photographs of the prince naked were splashed across neighbors and magazines worldwide. followed an alcohol-fueled party in a wynn hotel in las vegas. on this trip, new jersey governor chr governor chris christie will supervise prince harry. >> he wants to come and see the destruction and wants to be helpful. and i'll spend the entire day with prince harry and believe me, nobody is going to get naked if i'm spending the entire day with him. >> in all seriousness, not the visit by prince harry who concerns many in the coastal towns, it's the lack of money. sea bright, new jersey, mayor joins us now. hello, mayor. >> good morning, carol. >> you wrote a letter to prince harry. what did you say in the letter? >> well, i invited prince harry to come ask visit sea brighton

his trip to new jersey? >> did he respond? >> no, we just sent it. and we're hopeful he chooses to come to sea bright. but either way, very exciting he's coming to new jersey during the trip. >> why are you so excited that prince harry will come and tour the devastation? >> well, we think it's very important and we're grateful to bring worldwide attention to the flight of those of us still trying to recover from sandy. i'm glad that he'll be able to see up close the devastation that was caused. but also he'll be able to see our recovery and the signs of rebuilding that are popping up all over. so we look forward to showing prince harry the spirit of the people of new jersey. >> most definitely. does prince harry's visit -- do you hope prince harry's visit illustrates the problems you are still having in getting money to repair the damage?

we do. any attention and awareness is helpful. life has gone back in most places. but in the towns hard hit by sandy, we're still struggling. we appreciate the attention and help he can provide. >> mary dina long, thank you for joining thus morning. >> you're welcome. still ahead, they weren't ever supposed to become public, but they did, and now these ads have caused some people their jobs. [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is [ angry gibberish ]

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good morning. thank you so much for joining us. i'm carol costello. stories we're watching in the newsroom. stock futures lower ahead of the

opening bell. investors keeping an eye on the financial woes in cyprus. and pending home sale figures will come in. we'll bring them to you when we get them. t-mobile offering bargain plans with no contract. and it's not the iphone 5. and the 4g lt e! network with fa that has faster speeds than verizon and at&t. and at the supreme court today, we have defense of marriage act between a man and woman. and federal benefits between tax breaks, social security and do not reapply to gay and lesbian couples. president bill clinton signed that to law in 1996, but said recently he changed his mind. he thinks its unconstitutional. and as justices deliberate doma, supporters hope this symbol

continues to spread across the internet. including the human rights campaign, which came up with the idea. the group advocates equal rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. normally, it's blue and yellow, but you saw the newer version before. as i said today, the supreme court will focus on same-sex recognition at the federal level. yesterday, all about the states and whether a state can ban same-sex couples from marrying. justices pushed back against both sides of the prop 8 argument, and some wondered why are they hearing the case at all? the court is takesing a cauttak tone. >> outside of the marriage context, you can think of any other rational basis, reason, for a state using sexual orientation as a factor in

denying homosexuals benefits? >> your honor, i cannot. i do not have anything to offer you. >> i'm curious, when did -- when did it become unconstitutional to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? >> the label marriage means something, even -- >> sir, if you tell a child that somebody has to be their friend. you can force the child to say this is my friend, but it changes the definition of what it means to be a friend. and that it seems to me what supporters of proposition 8 are saying. all you're interested in is the label and you insist on changing the definition of the label. >> traditional marriage been around for thousands of years, same-sex marriage very new. first adopted in the netherlands in 2000, so there isn't a lot of

data about its effect. >> if you are over the age of 55, you don't help us in the government's interest of regulating pro creation through marriage. why is that different? >> your honor, even with respect to couples over the age of 55, it is very rare that both couples -- both parties to the couple are infer tile. >> i can assure you, if both the woman and man are over the age of 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage. >> most likely not. now, if the supreme court decides to dismiss prop 8 and the defense of marriage act or doma what will it mean for the marriage equality movement? will it be dead? the political panel will discuss, next.

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the supreme court. sonja sotomayor questioned whether they were deciding this too soon, why not let the country continue to experiment with same-sex marriage and figure out where it wants to go? not exactly a ringing endorsement of deciding to, you know, make same-sex marriage the law of the land, right, jason? >> yeah, and really today's arguments are the most important. the defense of marriage act is more problematic than proposition 8. the idea you can get married in one state, but another state doesn't have to recognize it, that's a constitutionality issue. we're supposed to have full, faith and credit. a contract in one place is a contract somewhere else. what the supreme court says today is more important than ambivalence from yesterday. >> it does sound like the supreme court, the justices just want to punt? >> you know what, carol? many a supreme court legal expert got it wrong. when it came to health care. i remember the advocates left

the courtroom crest fallen, and the folks that were against left their buoy thinking they had a good day, and it all went the other way. the one lesson i've learned, i can no more read the supreme court justices than i can read ancient sanskrit. i think we'll have to wait and see what the decision ends up being. it could be that they decide there is no standing. and that would still be a partial victory for folks in california. it would become the laugh the la -- law of the land in california and those couples would have recognition. 28% of americans would live in a place where gay marriage is legal. >> when you parse out what sonia sotomayor said, it sounds reasonable despite what you said, anna. we are still experimenting with same-sex marriage. only blue states have made same-sex marriage legal. 38 states have banned same-sex marriage and 6 states allow

civil unions. you look at hard numbers, doesn't that illustrate, jason, the country isn't quite there yet? >> the country is not there at all. >> but everything is saying it is. gay rights advocates are saying -- >> the gay rights advocates are wrong, because they are promoting their own perspective. most americans think homosexuality is strange, they don't think it's something normal. that's a separate question of whether or not people think adults have the right to marry somebody else. and i think that's the other thing that the supreme court is separating. if you listen what sonia sotomayor is saying, is there any reason for sexual orientation to come into play here? that's the issue. what's the legal way, what people are comfortable with. that needs to be separated in this case. >> that's despite, anna, polls that show 58% of americans that think same-sex marriage ought to be legal. do they think that way because of what jason said or because they are more accepting of the gay life-style? >> i think -- look, i think most

of us at this point don't think homosexualityity is abnormal or see it as strange. there are places where there are more homosexuals where they are part of our life. i, for example, live in south florida, and having gay friends, gay ceos, gay university presidents, gay leaders in all walks of life is not strange for folks in south florida for people like me and the approval for? south florida is much higher than maybe in some -- even within florida in some more rural places where it's just not as accepted. one of the things we've learned is having personal contact and personal experience with gay people is something that can shape the opinion for folks and how they perceive this. 20% of people say their opinion is shaped by experiences with gay people. where we are more exposed to gay

life-styles and have them part of our friends and circle, don't have anywhere near the issues. i would never call myself as somebody who sees them as strange or normal. i happen to love them. i cannot have enough gay friends, i'd like more. >> justice roberts doesn't seem to be amenable to same-sex marriage, at least from his comments yesterday, even though he has a gay relative sitting in the courtroom to hear the arguments. it doesn't work for everyone. >> no, it doesn't. and you have to look -- i'm from ohio, right. rob paortman came out. i support gay marriage, now that the coast is clear. he waited two years after his son came out of closet. my students have issues with people who are gay. but in many cases, how people look at the supreme court and laws is how it will affect them personally. if the supreme court starts messing with marriage in general it may affect me and what it is i want to do. that's really important. the constitutionality issue is separate from whether or not people are comfortable. once laws get passed, people

have to get comfortable with things. same thing with segregation, same thing with gay meaning. >> thanks so much for a fascinating conversation, which will continue in the days to come. anna navarro and jason johnson, thank you so much. the hottest couple in sports right now. the hottest three in sports andy and amanda infield give us their take on the florida gulf coast university reaching the sweet 16. bleacher report is next. carfirmation. only hertz gives you a carfirmation. hey, this is challenger. i'll be waiting for you in stall 5. it confirms your reservation and the location your car is in, the moment you land. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. earning loads of points. we'll leave that there.

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46 minutes past the hour. time to check top stories. the man once of washington's most respected leaders is now apologizing for the sex scandal that ruined his career. david petraeus, four-star army general resigned as director of the cia after admitting to an extramarital affair with his biographer, paula broadwell, and petraeus opened a rare public appearance with a very personal apology. >> please allow me to begin my remarks by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the cia and caused such pain for my family, friends, and supporters. >> petraeus, speaking at a

dinner honoring the military at the university of southern california. we've shown you the ad and now some executives out of the job because of it. the ad, seen in india, feature women tied up in the back of the ford with foreign italian prime minister silvio berlusconi or paris hilton at the wheel. ford says it had nothing to do with the ad. the add struck a chord after a number of gang rapes in india. google is fighting over a brand new word, ungoogleable. zane verje. >> hi, carol. sweden is fighting over the word "ungoogleable. it made it to the list of new swedish words, meaning something something that cannot be found

with any search begin. google didn't like it and thought it should only apply to google. so they complained to the language council of sweden who removed the word from the list. google says they are protecting their trademark. carol, i use the word google ishs for all things delicious. will i get into trouble now? >> i think google would like the term googleicious. i'm just guessing, though. news that dionne warwick is broke. ♪ >> warwick, of course, one of the most recognizable pop voices of the 1960s, and filing for bankruptcy last week, she claimed more than $10 million in tax debt dating back to 1991. still ahead in the "newsroom," talk back question today, does winning trump everything? your response is next.

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"talk back" question for you today. does winning trump everything. this from diana. tiger woods' personal life is just that, personal. plays a great game of golf and deserves to win. this from bob, no. >> from ken, no, it does not. what a tasteless ad by nike. they surprised me. tweet me @carolcnn if you'd like to continue the conversation.

andy infield, the supermodel wife. sits down to talk about family and the up expected wins of the florida gulf team. here's chris carter with the "bleacher report." >> andy enfield, that's a name nobody knew before last week. of the head coach of the eagles, virtually unknown. everybody talking about this guy and team. what a great back story. valedictorian in high school. of course, his wife, a former cover girl model, the couple have three kids. and they sat down with cnn's rachel nichols yesterday. basically told her that their little ones are also enjoying dad's basketball success. >> my oldest's daughter's focus is to go to target and buy a dinosaur from the dollar bank. that was promised. >> i told her if we won the

first game, she could get a dine so sauer. the other could get a barbie. >> what do they get with game three? >> they get more. >> the season of the eagles has shocked the sports world. they play friday night against florida at 10:00 p.m. eastern. you can watch on or sister network tbs. before getting the most buzz on bleacherreport.com, mment st te'o made a break at the 40 dash yesterday. some say his new time greatly improves his status. others saying not convinced he's scout material just yet. nfl shaun rogers told miami police he was robbed $440,000 in jewelry by a woman he just met. rogers said after a night of partying he returned to his room at the fountain blue hotel.

decided to go to bed. whenpy woke up, his watch was gone, diamond earrings, gold bracelet, and $440,000 worth of gold jewelry stolen from the hotel safe. police say they're trying to identify the woman responsible for the theft. and mr. t., the legendary act her had this to say before his prediction? >> what is your prediction? >> shoot the puck. i pity it! >> mr. t. was involved in a slap shot contest during an intermission during the blackhawks game. you see there he made three tries. he made the last one, obviously, the crowd was very into it. he was into it. a combination of greatness last night, carol. we saw the old mr. t. and we saw him do something that not many people can do on the ice there. >> he looks fit too.

he looks good. >> he can play hockey. >> yeah, he can. next to "cnn newsroom" after a break.

happening now, in the "newsroom," north korea threatens to reduce seoul to a sea of fire. and nuke the united states.

with the allies. >> should we worry about kim jong-un? plus -- >> how deeply i regret and appall united states for the circumstances that led to the resignation from the cia. >> david petraeus says he's sorry for his affair. and tablets, kindles and cell phones, should you be able to use them on takeoff and landings? the rules getting a fresh look. and watch out, a light post slams through the windshield of a bus. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. thank you so much for being with us, i'm carol costello. we begin this hour at the u.s. supreme court where small crowds are gathering outside. and history could be unfolding inside. the justices are just now wading into their second day of arguments into same-sex marriage, compared to the number

yesterday where crowds wades in thousands, to the iconic marble building of the california's prop 8, a law that bands same-sex marriage. >> the california supreme court decides what the law is. that's what we decide, right? we don't prescribe law for the future. we decide what the law is. and i'm furious. when did -- when did it become unconstitutional? to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? >> may i answer this the form of a rhetorical question? when did it become unconstitutional to prohibit interracial marriages? when did it become unconstitutional to assign children -- >> easy question i think for that one. at the time that -- that the -- equal protection clause was adopted. that's absolutely true. but don't give me a question to my question. >> today, the justices focus on

the defense of marriage act, or doma. that's a federal law that defines marriage as between a man and woman. cnn's jason carroll spoke to the woman who is challenging doma. >> reporter: what edie winsor and cindy spire tied the knot, they had no idea it would lead to a challenge one that would open the door for federal benefits for same-sex couples for a generation. at the moment, winsor stood in front of the court. i wonder as you stand here, did it feel like at all that you could be making history? >> yes. >> reporter: winsor's story began some 50 years ago. she was a programmer at ibm. one night while in new york's west village, she met spire, a psychologist. >> she's a wonderful human being. >> reporter: the would fell in love, moved in together and for the next 40 years lived as a couple. unable to marry, they still

shared everything equally. >> it was just a magic world. it really was. >> reporter: that is million doctors diagnosed spire with multiple sclerosis. winsor was not only a partner, she also became a caregiver. >> that's when i asked about, do you want to go -- i knew there was some case that was concerned that new york state accepted marriages that was legal wherever they were made. >> we're gathered together today -- >> reporter: they were married in canada in 2007. >> i said i can die now. i could die now. >> reporter: spire lost her battle with m.s. in 2009, and with her passing so began winsor's fight. while new york state recognized winsor's marriage, the defense of marriage act prohibits the federal government from recognizing it. so, winsor had to pay taxes on spire's asset when she inherited. her bill -- $363,000. >> it hurt terribly.

it did hurt terribly. and i felt -- i felt angry. >> if thea had been theo, then she would have had no estate tax whatsoever. >> reporter: winsor sued challenges a law that denies same-sex marriage to couples who live in states that allow such union. >> and the supreme court has to decide is that a legitimate distinction to draw between people? gay people pay, straight people don't. >> reporter: regardless of the decision, winsor says, by making it this far, she already feels a sense of accomplishment. >> a huge step forward and a huge difference how people look at us. >> reporter: jason carroll, cnn, washington. >> as the justices deliberate, supporters of same-sex marriage hope this symbol continues to thread across the internet. the human rights campaign came up with the idea. they advocate equal rights to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. war may break out at any

moment that's according to north cree california which cut off another communications hot line with south korea. last hour, i talked with chris are over to hill, am ambassador, a diplomat, he says this is a situation we need to pay attention to. >> this is rather prolonged. rather intense, and i don't think we should be ignoring this. at the same time, i think there's a big element of domestic north korea politics, if one can understand that concept, where clearly this kim jong-un is not being well received. and i think they are trying to kind of boost his status to some sort of wartime leader. owe obviously, it bears very close watching. >> this just the latest sign of the rising tensions between the two koreas. the north has put its military units on combat-ready status following joint military exercises between south korea and the united states and the recent united nations sanctions

against the north. man through chance is at the border between north and south korea. good morning, matthew. >> reporter: carol, good morning. that's right. a lot of tension is growing here. those latest statements coming from north korea. saying they've cut off that key hot line between the two militaries north and south. it's significant because there aren't that many opportunities for the two militaries which face off across that border. to communicate with each other. and so, this is obviously, you know, going to impact potentially on communication between the two sides, particularly over the -- what's calls the industrial complex. that's where the hot line takes place. that's where the communication between the two militaries over the transfer of workers into that industrial complex that's shared between north and south korea. it's meant to be sort of a confidence-building sort of industrial zone. they've cut the hotline off, north korea, because they say

war is imminent on the korean peninsula. another example of north korea ratcheting up tensions on the korean peninsula, carol. >> matthew chance reporting very near north korea this morning. handwritten directions to the home of colorado's slain prison chief has been found in the car of the man suspected of killing him. police believe he ebel shot clements to death. we're hearing from one of those sheriffs deputies who pulled over ebel in north texas and almost died on the side of the road. >> i got out of my patrol car. i remember looking at the car and thinking some is just not right. whether i needed to call for another unit, whatever, i don't know. as soon as i approached the passenger side, tipped my head over, all i saw was a gun.

at that point in time, i remember seeing the gun shoot off a number amount of times. and i could see the cartridges fly out. at which point, i blacked out. i had no clue whether i was standing, sitting, laying, whatever. i got kind of halfway up, looking for my mike, trying to call out for help. and that's about the time i noticed that, hey, i'm bleeding from the face. something's not right here, i need help. at which point, he had jumped -- another county deputy pulled up. i never even got the chance to talk to him that day. never got his name, nothing, just pulled up out of the blue and helped me out. that's what we do. >> that's our affiliate ktvt

tracked down that good samaritan, his name is dave blankenship. he's a detective with the johnson county sheriff's department. he happened to be driving by when boyd was shot and stopped to help out. other top stories, in seffner florida, it appears another sinkhole may be forming. two families abandoned a dupe plex after cracks in the floors and ground. this happens days after a sinkhole popped up in two other homes. both families have been able to return. there have been at least five sinkholes in the area this month. this had to be demolished after a sinkhole swallowed a man sleeping in his bedroom. >> incredible video out of china. the bus was carrying 26 passengers when that lamppost smashed through the windshield. the driver was able to stop the bus and get out of the way just in time. but he did suffer a ruptured spleen. do you get upset when a flight attendant tells you to turn off your lebtronic device?

well, the faa is looking into changing the rules to allow some devices to stay on. any changes, though, may not come for months. flight tend dants want to keep the current rule in place saying there are critical times when they need the passengers' attention. for parents on the go. honda is showing off a minivan with a built-in vacuum cleaner. the hose inside the 2014 odyssey reaches every single corner of that vehicle. it's one of the high-tech new features on display at the new york auto show. that's where we find maggie lake. good morning, maggie. >> reporter: good morning, carol, i was just over there at that honda odyssey with that vacuum cleaner. how genius, i can't believe it wasn't thought of before. you ask, will people really buy a car for that? that's what they used to say about cup holders. but that isn't the only thing on display here. we're expecting a million people to come through the doors this week. all of these car companies

putting their best foot sford. one of the best things we're seeing is technology. how much technology does your car have? that's because we're all addicted to carrying around these, our smartphones. we used them all the time. so we now expect our cars to sort of look like them. i caught up with amir amed who works with the technology arm of chrysler. he gave us a look at what you'll see in the dodge dart. have a listen. tell me how high-tech are these cars? >> these cars are very high-tech. seven-inch multiview l.e.d. screen in the cluster. and also the radio. we saw that in highest technologies in the vehicle. it's actually one of the lowest price points in the company. >> which is different because you could only get that in luxury cars, right? >> absolutely. everyone is carrying a smartphone. that's why we bring the large screens into the vehicle.

you can see the information you that want quickly at a glance and stay focused on the driving. >> what do you hear from your customer. what do customer love with the technology cars? >> again they want technology that adapts to them. they want to get into a car and not have to learn a system. they want to be able to get in a car and have a system kind of understand them. and this is a system that kind of helps them do that because you can go in and configure what you want from them. each car can be tailored to each person. one of the things i ask amir is whether i had to put him on speed dial in my contacts list to trouble shoot. and another part of my household is going to break me. but he emphasizing how easy the technology is. not only is it coming standard in a lost these economy cars. it's a lot easier to use in a lot of cases, carol. >> maggie, thank you so much. still to come in the newsroom, christine quinn, she's feisty and fighting against

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abortion rights activists are gearing up for a fight in north dakota. it outlaws a procedure once the fetal heartbeat can be detected. that's usually six weeks into pregnancy. another law bans abortions based sole on genetic defects. the heartbeat bill takes in effect august 1st. t-mobile is shaking up the cell phone market. it's now offering bargain plans with no contract. and it's got the iphone 5. the carrier it rolling out a 4g network with download speeds faster than at&t and verizon. a baby girl is left behind in a stroller on a philadelphia train station platform. police say the baby's mother and grandmother were trying to cheat the system by using one fare card twice and forgot the baby when they went off in different directions.

a cashier took care of the baby until the mother and grandmother returned. the two women were not charged. the woman running for mayor of new york city apparently has a temper, and some people love it, and some people don't. here's christine quinn announcesing her campaign. >> i'm making it official that i'm running for mayor of the city of new york. you know, i'm running for mayor because i love this city. i'm not about talking and finger pointing and complaining. i'm about getting things done. >> oh, yes, she is. that no-nonsense attitude is getting quinn quite the reputation. some say she has a vicious temper. "the new york times" reporting that her office has soundproof walls because she yells so much. and a former campaign donor told "the new york times," quote, she screamed at me for ten minutes uninterrupted and used the "f" word at least 20 times. i was just so startled i didn't know what to do. and a city official said her eyes get really wide, she points her fingers she gets close to

you and is really in your face. christine quinn joins me now. good morning. >> good morning. >> i must say, i read the article, i laughed. it was an interesting article. is that you? >> you know, as i said, in the article, at times, i get really emotional about the work i'm doing. it's really important work. and at times, you need to be forceful to get things that are stuck unstuck. now, obviously, we all want to try to modulate our tempers. i have deep emotions and care deeply for new yorkers and that means sometimes, you got to push things forward. i think new yorkers know that. this is a tough town and we're tough people and you need to deliver. some of the pieces in the article, i soundproof because i'm too loud. i'm loud when i'm not yelling but we didn't soundproof because of that.

some of that is complete exaggeration. >> why did you soundproof? >> we soundproof because outside of my door with the ceiling the way it's structures and city council with this weird echo chamber so it made hard for people to stand there who had to be on post out there, hard for people in my office because we could hear them in my office. so it was just a thing to make it more efficient for everybody. but, look, i'm not going to apologize for the fact that i've been able to get things done for new york. and sometimes, to get things done for new york, to deliver seven balanced on-time budgets to prevent the layoffs of 141 school teachers. to keep every firehouse open year after year after threats of cuts. passing laws that made kindergarten mandatory. that's not easy. sometimes, you have to push hard to get that done. but my job isn't to make people smile, my job is deliver for new yorker, period. >> rudy giuliani, for example, he was also known for having quite the temper. if you were a man, do you think

your temper would be an issue? >> i'm not a man. i'm a woman. i'm an aggressive woman who gets things done, and that's the way it is. i've never been embarrassed about the fact that i'm pushy and aggressive. >> the other thing the "times" reported in that same article that you've pursued political revenge against people who have wronged you. do you? >> absolutely not. >> don't all politicians do that, though? >> pardon me? >> don't all politicians go after others who wronged them in some way? >> well, i think that's an unfair statement about all politicians. and certainly, it's not a fair statement about me. i've tried very hard to bring discipline to city council which is for many years known as an undisciplined body without focus. now, that means bringing order, having twice-monthly democratic caucus meetings. asking people to comment when they're supposed to comment, not comment when they're not supposed to. finding deadlines in an orderly

process. i'm not going to apologize for that because that has made us more efficient and focused on the needs of new yorkers. put us in position to pass legislation, just a few weeks ago, making it illegal for employers to discriminate against unemployed new yorkers. pass legislation that allows tenants who are being harassed to sue their landlords in court. we never had that power before. but the better structure in the council now allows us to have focused debates that move issues forward. that makes people's lives better. >> okay. let me ask you a question that involves the whole country. you're openly lesbian. you're married. today's supreme court hearings will affect you. how will it make you feel knowing you can be mayor of new york city and be denied federal marriage benefits? >> you know, the being mayor part of that has nothing to do with anything. but waking up every day in a country where your sexual orientation puts you in a position where you have less rights, fewer rights than somebody else is actually a very

painful thing. i mean lbgt americans are full citizens. we're full contributing parts of this country. and all we want is the same rights and responsibilities as everybody else. all we want is the laws of this country to do what the laws of the state of new york have done. wrap their arms around all families and say that we all matter. we all love each other, we're all just trying to get through the day supporting each other. edie winsor's case that i know you guys have been running a story on, tells that story. two women loved each other for decades. when one got sick, edie took care of her until she died. and then after that tragic death. the federal government basically sent edie a letter saying you are less than your heterosexual americans that you know. that's horrible. it's just wrong. and i'm so excited that this issue has gone all the way to the supreme court. and going to get -- is getting heard and is going to get heard.

>> second day. we'll see what happens. christine quinn, new york city council. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. look what mommy is having.

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good morning. thanks so much for being with us, i'm carol costello. checking our top stories, 30 minutes past the hour, north korea says it's cutting off a key military hot line with the south. it's a line ton-to-an industrial complex. this is just the latest signs of rising tensions between the two countries. the north says it's already put its military units on combat-ready status. right now, the u.s. supreme court is hearing more arguments on the issue of same-sex marriage. these are live pictures from outside the court. today's focus is the federal defense of marriage act, or doma. that defines marriage between a man and a woman and effectively getting several benefits like tax breaks, social security payments and family leave do not apply to gay and lesbian couples even if they're married. president bill clinton signed that law back in 1996, but he said recently, he changed his mind. he says it's now unconstitutional. in indiana, the state

supreme court has unanimously upheld the state's tuition voucher program and that could mean big changes for the rest of the country. the indiana program is unique because it's not limited to just students in failing public schools. any indiana student who meets income guidelines can take advantage of it and use public money to attend private schools. poppy car low is on the story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. the central argument that the plaintiffs were trying to make in front of the state's highest court is that this is an unconstitutional program. they say it violates the program between church and school. when you look at the indiana state constitution, it clearly says that no state money can be used for any religious organization. well, the plaintiffs here said that giving these students up to $4,500 each to attend a private school violated that because an overwhelming majority of kids in this program are going to

religious schools. well, the high court unanimously disagreed with that. i want to read you part of their statement. they said, quote, we find the only direct beneficiaries of the school voucher program are the participating parents and their children and not religious schools. now, the state superintendent was very vocal if her opposition to this. the governor on the other hand of indiana, governor pence has widely and broadly supported this. he actually wants to scomplanex program. but when you look at legislators in the state, they're very divided on this issue. and i want you to listen to two of them. >> a victory for hoosier kids. 190 children that the school exercise the the school scholarship. >> we literally have schools picks their students rather than students picking their schools.

>> for all the states who say why does this matter to me? this is a much bigger because this could set case law that could have ripple effect across the nation. this morning, i talked to our supreme court expert jeff toobin about how big this really is. >> the indiana case goes to the heart of the separation of ch p church and state. is indiana, through this program, essentially giving money to church schools? historically, that has been unconstitutional. today, it's a lot less clear. >> also, carol, what's important here, when you look at indiana, it has the broadest schools after-programs. it's not just limited to low-income families. it also goes to middle class families. and it could get expanded. there's actually a vote there today to expand the program. and right now, there's a cap on how many students in indiana can apply for these vouchers. that cap of 15,000 goes away after the next school year. so opponents of this, that i

talked to, are very worried that more and more kids will join this program. and they'll get the vouchers and that will mean less and less per pupil funding like what you see on your screen for public schools. they're worried about that. colorado, louisiana, their supreme courts in the middle of this debate as well. so i asked one of the opponents of this, the head of the teachers union in indiana what are you going to do because this is the law of the land. she said, we'll try to convince parents to keep their kids in public schools. and we'll try to convince the legislature to set aside separate money for the program, not take away from public schools, carol. >> poppy harlow, thanks so much. for the first time, general david petraeus is talking about the sex scandal that brought down his illustrious career. hear what he had to say next. [ male announcer ] our usaa retirement guide provides advice

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this morning, we're hearing from a man who was once one of washington's most restricted leaders. he's apologizing for the sex scandal that ruined his career. as a four star army general, david petraeus once ran the wars in iraq and afghanistan before being unanimously concerned as the director of cia. petraeus announced his resignation and announced an extramarital affair with paula broadwell. last night, he opened with a very rare personal apology. casey wian as more for you. >> reporter: retired general david petraeus picked a receptive audience to launch a comeback from the sex scandal that cost him his job at the cia and the military. >> so please allow me to begin my remarks by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the cia and caused such pain for my

family, friends and supporters. >> reporter: supporters warrant abundance. petraeus was a four-star general that commanded forces in iraq. he also wrote the field manual for how troops fight insurgents. >> i join you keenly aware that i'm regarded differently. >> reporter: his undoing was an affair with paula broadwell. a woman who will co-authored his biography. both were married. it came as a shock when an fbi investigation into an unrelated matter uncovered his relationship with broadwell. he resigned as cia director three days after president obama was re-elected. and ten days before he testified about the attack on the u.s. embassy on benghazi. now petraeus has re-entered the public stage and reportedly talking to employers.

>> general petraeus is a terrific guy. had a great career. he's going to navigate this the right way. >> i know that i can never fully assuage the pain that i afflicted on me and those of others. i can, however, try to move forward and as best possible make amends to those i have hurt. >> reporter: chief among them, his wife holly who did not attend petraeus' speech. the event was sponsored by usc that has longstanding ties to the military yet is located across the continent from the cia and pentagon. journalists attending the event were kept nearly as far away from the general. casey wian, cnn, los angeles. coming up next, "talk back," thousands descend on washington as the u.s. supreme court tackles same-sex marriage. will this be an historic step forward? or are the justices looking for a way out? could they punt? we'll talk. need a new game.

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joining me now cnn contributor and democratic strategist marina cardona. along with anna navarro. welcome to you both. >> good morning. >> expectations among gay rights advocates might be dampened yesterday by justice sonia sotomayor, the justice questioning whether this was too soon in asking why not let the continue to experiment with same-sex marriage and figure out where it wants to go. what does that mean to you, maria cardona? >> well, i think first of all, carol, it would have been a lot easier to bet and win on who the next pope is going to be, than try to figure out what the supreme court is going to do in terms of trying to figure out the case. i will say this, justice sotomayor is nothing if not methodical. and she often takes positions that are contrary even to her own to play devil's advocate and make sure that every single angle of this case is being

debated. i would not read anything that she's saying, frankly, i wouldn't read anything into what a lot of them are saying. a lot of folks were wrong when they tried to figure out what the supreme court was going to say on the health care case. >> but some of sotomayor's comments seem reasonable. you could argue that the country is still experimenting. only blue states have made smengs marriage legal. 38 states have banned same-sex marriage. six states allow civil unions. if you look at those numbers, the country is still experimenting. so why should the u.s. premium skort decide this now, ana? >> well, sure, the country is still experimenting and there are some states that have evolved. shifted on histhis a lot fasterd further than some others. but further, what we've seen poll after poll, like it or not, the gay is here to stay. we're not going to dissolve these gay families. gay couples are not going to go back in the kloss et cetera.

the only people who continue living in the closet these day, the hardliners against gay marriage. look, if it's not now, it is going to be later. it's not a matter of if it's going to be legal, it's about when it's going to be legal. i would argue, regardless of what happens in the supreme court, it's already made great strides. and this process has been helpful to the movement of gay marriage and equality. because this forced people to think about the issue. and you can see, the exponential growth in approval numbers for gay marriage as people wrap their arms around the issue and really give it serious analytical thought and realize that you're talking about two loving adults who are being treated in a way that's ub equal to other american citizens who are heterosexual. >> many of the comments that the justices made were so interesting. i want to play more for the audience. and talk about it. separately, the chief justice roberts and justice alito seem

to question the definition of prop 8 and the definition of marriage. >> if you tell a child that somebody has to be their friend, i suppose you can force the child to say, this is my friend, but it changes the definition of what it means to be a friend. and that's what seems to me what supporters of proposition 8 are saying here. all you're rested in is the label, and you insist on changing the definition of the label. >> traditional marriage has been around for thousands of years. same-sex marriage is very new. i think it was first adopted in the netherlands in the 2000. so there isn't a lot of data about its effect. >> brings up a couple of points many people believe are important points. like what are the effects of same-sex marriage? not only on traditional marriage, but on children? maria? >> well, with all due respect to chief justice roberts, i think his argument is flawed because i think that -- that argument would be valid if you're actually saying that you are forcing a heterosexual person to

marry somebody who's gay. but just by letting gay couples marry, that doesn't affect my heterosexual marriage to my husband in any way whatsoever. and i will also say that, you know, carol, the country is going in this direction. so maybe not all states are there yet. but majorities of americans do agree that this is where the country is going, and that people should not be treated differently just because they love somebody of the same sex. and i also argue that it took a supreme court to outlaw interracial marriage. it took the supreme court to desegregate our schools. it took a president signing emancipation proclamation to outlaw slavery and that took the country to a civil war. so it really doesn't matter if the whole country is there yet. it's the right thing to do. >> some legal analysts, ana, say it sure sounds like the supreme

court doesn't want to raise an issue on this, they want to punt. if they do punt, what does that mean for the gay rights movement? >> again, you're absolutely losing when you start using football metaphors. let's say they postpone. you know, you're just doing that, you're postponing. because the issues are not going to go away. here is the bottom line, folks. let's be realistic. there are gay couples living in marriage-like situations all over this nation, whether legal or not. there are gay families raising children in loving environments all over this country, whether we agree with it or not. these issues are not going to go away. we cannot take a magical eraser and dissolve those families. so the issue will keep coming up again and again. are we as a nation ready to tell those children that their families should have less recognition than a heterosexual family. this is a country where the courts have often focused on what is in the defendant interest of the children.

and certainly, nobody can argue that it is in the best interest of the children of gay couples to be in families that are not legally recognized and that do not have the same legal rights as heterosexual parents. so let's just face the fact and the reality that we're not going back to the last century. that we are now moving forward and that this will continue to happen and the issues will continue arising and leading to legal challenges. >> all right. we'll see what happens today. ana that rav row, maria cardona, thanks so much. >> thank you, carol. >> one of the biggest singers from the '60s, '70s, '80s and '90s, filing for bankruptcy, dionne warwick? i think it's time to say a little prayer. the same great prices here with walmart's low price guarantee? let's try! let's go. i've got a full house to impress. well, you better ham it up! look at this price! [ laughs ] that's awesome! what's for easter desert? oh, sugar cookies! my son's helping this year. look at that! hey! there's my brand.

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. news that dionne warwick is broke. we're talking $10 million in debt. ♪ i'll be on your side forever more ♪ >> oh, this makes me so sad, a.j. hammer. how does this happen? >> i mean, it does seem crazy, carol, when somebody's been around as long as dionne warwick has and had so many hits to get into this situation. 31 hit songs from 1963 to 1987 alone. but according to her bankruptcy filing, she's down to just a thousand bucks in cash. and they lists her total assets as $25,500. that consists primarily of two fur coats and two sets of diamond earrings valued at $13,000. now, she does still make some money. she's pulling in about $20,000 a month. although, her monthly expenses are reportedly $20,000. so no savings going on there. on the debt side, she's got a tax bill of $7 million for uncle

sam. $3 million to the state of california and $500,000 to a business manager. that will take dionne warwick $500,000 a month to pay off what she needs to live on. her publicist explained in a statement that the problems have just snowballed saying that dionne has repeatedly tried to make repayment offers and plans to the irs and also to the california tax board for the money that she owed. the plans weren't accepted. what happens is, the penalties continue to accrue. it's not about the amount of back taxes that she actually lows largely here, carol, it's all the penalties and the interest. and this is actually pretty common among hollywood stars who get into this situation. it's not the money that they initially owed. but things just keep piling up and snowballing just like they have for dionne. she's still out there on tour

make something money, but this is not an uncommon footing. >> i can't imagine that in taxes, mind-boggling. a.j. hammer, thank you very much. >> you got it. ahead in the next hour of "cnn newsroom," the jodi arias trial has been going on for nearly three months. is it too much for the jury? we'll talk to our legal experts. ♪ ♪ ♪

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