that's all for us tonight. ♪ >> tonight, you know the news. >> he dislocated some portion of his leg. >> tonight, you know the news. people in this country it seems they love to build someone up. >> i am coming soon. >> you know, it's time to get to the point with donny deutsch. >> i'm chairman of deutsch incorporated. i'm the author of two books. often wrong, never in doubt. and the big idea. >> cnn's margaret hoover. >> i spent four years in washington, in government service, including two years in the white house. i wrote a national best-selling book including how to save the republican party. >> rick reilly. >> i'm an espn columnist. i'm a best-selling author. i've been covering the world of sports for more than 30 years. >> jason taylor. >> i played professional

football for 13 years. i also majored in political science and criminal justice. >> and kaylighy mcananny. >> i'm in a network of conservative writers dedicated to conservative values and principles. i wanted to empower americans to have a voice. >> let's "get to the point." >> h everyone. welcome to "the point." we're going to be here all week at this time. you already know the headlines, so we're going to get to the point of each story and we're going to start about what everyone is talking about tonight. kevin ware. this realtime injury that everybody watched and now can't seem to find it in themselves to watch it. >> it was interesting. i covered sports for 33 years. this is the worst one from what i hear. but i can't bring myself to watch it. i like how cbs pixlated it out. after the first couple times. >> that was actually a very good point. >> and i thought it was

disgusting that websites ran the whole thing. kevin ware's mother is watching this. and family. and it's the worst injury i've ever seen. he broke his leg in two places. people on the bench, his teammates were vomiting. guys were crying, his teammates. he's taken off. he's had the surgery. he's going to be all right. but the idea that you would show that over and over and over on a website, i just think that's wrong. >> you are a professional sports fan yourself. you haven't been able to watch it yourself. >> no, and like he said, kudos kudos to cbs for pulling it after a couple of times for pixelating it. i've been in a situation where a couple of us hit him and his ankle snapped. in the middle of the crowd noise, the play is going on, you could hear the snap. hear him screaming as he's laying on the ground. and to hear a grown man scream that way is gut-wrenching. we literally got up and ran the other way. instantly, the blood is in his sock and you could see it happen.

so -- >> so you can't make yourself watch this? >> no, teammate sitting there four feet away, it's gut wrenching. >> i was out to dinner with a bunch of people. a 12-year-old boy said oh, my god, my friend just tweeted me and texted me and said i've got to see this guy's leg break. but this is what happens with the media now. we are so fixated, and thank goodness media outlets all made the right decision. >> they all didn't -- >> initially, they didn't. it's just in this twitter world and this tweet world and this quick imagery world, how that's what young people were young people were all of a sudden on. and i'm so happy that the networks and everybody realizes what a horrible thing it was to watch. it's very hard to keep the genie in the bottle now with the way things happen. >> i just want to make sure everyone knows just what an awesome guy this kid was. he got hurt. he was telling his team, win for

me, win for me. worst pain of his life. as they're dragging him off, win for us, that is so cool. that's a team. >> a couple of other cool things rick pitino, coach of louisville he should have gone back. he stayed around. spent the night there. was there when the kid got out of surgery to make sure hey, are you all right? the other nice thing, not much nice in this, but the kid does live in atlanta. so he gets to go home now. that's where the final four is. so he can be recovering at home. they're going to take him to the game saturday night. may believe louisville wins. >> you cover college sports. what does this say about college sports? i mean, some people are saying with these college athletes aren't even compensated for what they do. >> what are you saying, pay them? >> some people are suggesting to pay college sports. >> title ix, you'd have to pay every single college athlete. >> i love the passion of college sports. the way you're talking about the way these guys cried for him.

they all wore his jersey afterwards. >> they don't get paid. but they get a chance to go to college, a lot of them. let's not minimize them. by the way, are they exploited? yes. does the ncaa make a billion dollars? yes. but these kids, thousands of kids who ordinarily would not go to college, get a free entrance to college. as well they should. so let's not go so oh, my god, the exploitation. and the other thing i'm going so say about this young man, this is a guy who was probably not going to make the pros. he was rated the 76th top sophomore player, he was a backup. and in a strange way, and this sounds like an amazing kid, once recuperates, i think he's going to have kind of a hero status. i think his future, 20, 30, 40 years ago, there may be some silver lining to all of this. >> it will be very difficult for him to come back. >> as a banker or something else, we are now celebrating this young man.

>> you were friends with joe theisman. >> he went through a very horrible situation. but thankfully, medicine is better nowadays. joe had a very time talking about it. the times i was around him, he didn't want to speak about it. i'm sure he's dealt with it. but it's very, very hard to see it. we have to understand, when you take the field, whether it's the basketball court, the football field, whatever sport it is, you're taking a risk. and when you watch him to jump to block a three-pointer -- he's done that a million times. >> you're taking a risk, that's the big point. >> for years, i played high school football and college football and i didn't get paid for it, and i would not change that. >> theismann did text kevin. >> and tweet him. by the way, the other thing people are talking about, 11.7 million americans tuned in to watch "the bible" last night. everybody was watching. what does this say about relidges youty in the united states? >> i don't think it says much about religiosity or whatever

that word was. i think it demonstrates we as a country are nervous. relax. gallup did a poll of 1 33 countries. and actually, the most affluent country ins the world, religion was less important on a daily basis to the people. and the poorest, religion was a big part of their life. i'm not saying religion is bad. what we tend to do, when things are not good, when we're worried about things, we tend to reach out to religion more. i think the reason "the bible" was so successful, right now, more than ever, this country is reaching for religion. >> there's an exception to that statistics. it's the united states of america. the greatest country on earth. where 73% of citizens profess christianity as their belief. there's a minority like the professor last week who had his

students write jesus on a piece of paper, rip it up, step on it and expelled the kid who did not participate. there's a minority who wants to take god out of the pledge of allegiance. the majority showed up to watch "the bible ". >> we all love religion. right now, it's hotter than ever because the country is in trouble. >> it was not based on judaeo. it was based on freedom. >> this nation was founded on christianity. it's one nation, under god. >> this nation was founded on independence, not christianity. >> on christian principles. it's part of what makes us so great is our religious free doms. now whether it's judaism, it doesn't mean that we're afraid of something. >> i have to say, why right now religion may be bigger and hotter than ever. >> i think because people

realized "jersey shore" was not a good show. >> if he went around the table right now, and if someone was losing a loved one or a job, we would reach out to a religion more. and i think this country is a little worried. >> to your point, we have a secular government. but we have a population that self identifies its religion. >> i'm sorry, i think it's great that, as a society we have 11.7 million people watching "the bible," as opposed to watching "jersey shore" or any other myriad of reality shows. >> more people watched "the walking dead" last night. the night before, than "the bible." so people would rather watch zombies than christ walking on water. mark burnett knows that the biggest special interest group -- >> you just admitted my point that the biggest special interest group are people in this country are christians and profess their belief. >> why do you keep saying christians? this country wasn't founded on them. >> yes, it does. >> because i'm not christian.

i'm jewish. >> but 73% of the nation is -- >> judaeo christians. >> religion i think is the great divider. it's very interesting. it's the cause. >> it underpins our society and the values we have. >> your values and your religion and my values. whose are better? both of our values. >> but a lot of the world doesn't feel that way. that's the point. >> you know what's in the top most religious countries? afghanistan, pakistan, yes, yemen. you don't want to go live there, do you? >> we don't have religion in our government. we have a secular government. >> coming up, a princen mom who says the main reason women should go to college is to find a husband. does she have a point? we'll talk about it right after this.

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okay, now, where did you get your degree? >> bryn mawr. >> what was your degree? >> a women's college. spanish language literature. >> did you get a mrs. degree? >> no i didn't. >> there's a woman who wrote a letter to the school paper saying women, get your man while you can. get your princeton guy before you get out. you'll never come across a talent pool like this again. here's what she wrote.

here's what nobody's telling you. find a husband on campus before you graduate. yes, i went there. you will never again be surrounded by this concentration of men who are worthy of you. she said she got married, but she didn't marry a princeton guy. and that's why it fell apart. because this guy wasn't worthy of her. so what do you think, we'll start with you? you went to georgetown. were you looking for a guy? is that the whole point? >> i think that's the point of life for a lot of women is finding a husband and having a family. and that's certainly what has brought me ultimate happiness is embarking upon that journey. but, you know, we pulled a little excerpt out. but we didn't read the broader context. she was saying just that. she was at a conference, she recognized women weren't asking about her career. they were asking about her finding a husband. they recognized that's what ultimate happiness is. >> well, you've got a career and you've got engaged this weekend. show the ring. >> there you go. >> so how did you decide you're going to do this versus go hard

at the career? and you didn't do it in college, obviously. >> i'm doing both. i absolutely think you can do both. but feminists want women to believe you cannot be female if you only want to be a stay-at-home mom. and i think that's -- >> uh-oh. >> i mean, we gently disagree on this. i happen to agree with the part that women have the luxury now to pick whatever path they want. i, however, think that this is like a big april fools' joke. in 2013, not 1950, women go to college to get a degree. an education. not to become married. and, by the way, the best advice i got when i was in my early 20s was wait until you're a little bit older to hitch your wagon to somebody else. when you know yourself. by the way, no 22-year-old man knows who he is, either. you got to figure out who you are and what makes you tick. before you really commit yourself to someone. she is young. she's getting married, that's great. we wish you the best. and you will have a wonderful marriage.

but i think generally, for most people, it behooves you to wait. >> i have three daughters. and i think getting married young is not the answer. having said that, i understand what this mom is saying. she's making two points. she's making one, about target marketing. you will never be in an environment again with more like-minded people than in a pure social environment. but i think the more important point is so many guys don't get married until their mid 30s because of career, career, career. i don't want anything taking my focus away. yet, women who do that wake up in their early 30s and they can't flip a switch as easy as tomorrow i'm going to find a husband and they're up against the clock. they have a clock. and, no, no, guys, it's -- i really mean that. there are so many women i meet who have just been completely career-focused. >> and they wished they had a woman like this to say this is what's important in life. focus on this. and the career is important, too, but this is the ultimate focus. >> this is all elitist crap. she went to princeton and no one is good enough unless you pick a princeton guy.

you know who went to princeton? carl icahn. corporate raider. why must you be with like-minded people? what's so great about meeting people that are exactly like you? >> i want to know what jason thinks. >> so if you don't go to princeton, it doesn't work? i can't even spell princeton. but does it mean everyone else is doomed? susan patton has two sons. one went to princeton and graduated and one is currently a student there. i have two sons. a 10-year-old and 8-year-old. if my wife kisses them good-bye in front of their friends, they're totally embarrassed. so i can only imagine. my mom had to send a letter to the school to get me a date or get me married before i get out of school, to me, this whole thing is just bizarre. >> i find this fascinating. i have never seen an argument, the two sides of the feminist argument where women are so intolerant of the other view of the other side. >> not demonstrated by us. >> we have different views but we're able to have a civil

conversation about it. >> all right. next up, we also have, you know, a bit of contention between rihanna and chris brown. let's hear what he had to say. >> you understand that if you behave badly again, you're going to damage not only your relationship, but her relationship -- her reputation, as well. >> absolutely, so that's why i'm moving forward. positive. >> people in this country, it seems they love to build someone up. >> and then bring them down. >> and then they enjoy standing on the sidelines and watching as someone goings down. but it's also been said people like comeback stories. do you think that the people who have been your harshest critics have it in their hearts to give you a chance at a comeback? >> so if rihanna has forgiven chris brown, does america need to? >> no. >> it's between chris brown and rihanna. chris brown was apparently trying to get some counseling, may or may not have done his

community service, whatever it is. >> monitored by his mother. >> whatever their situation is, unfortunately, it's played out in the media for all of us. because of who they are. >> i take this view that these guys are public figures. he beat the crap out of her. we've all seen that horrible picture that makes you cringe. and what message does it say when she takes him back and this guy goes out. >> first of all, this whole role model thing, it's very hard when we're asking 18, 19, 20-year-olds to be role models. i also have a problem with -- my kids, whether they're going to watch rihanna or not, they're never going to tolerate a man hitting them. so many parents are -- if a celebrity does something or the media does something and we're relinquishing responsibility. so, she's not a role model for parents who are responsible with their children. i don't believe that. that's horrific what he did.

i'd kill him if he did it to my daughter. but the right kids brought up the right way are not going to accept men beating them because rihanna did. >> i don't care if she takes him back or not, i'm not going to let him get away with saying i'm a completely changed man. he just threw a chair. he punched frank ocean. he's got a pot prescription supplied by his acupuncturist. there's some holes in the story. by the way, he's like i'm on a goodwill tour to show the country how i've changed. he's got a new album, right? here's a song called "till i die." "pimps up, hoes down, ass up, nose down, damn bitch, i do it." he's really changed? >> there's an interesting irony the air that lauer was doing that interview who obviously has been dragged through. and i have to say something. i've been waiting to say this. i know matt personally and professionally. i've been on that set three days

a week for the last several years. i've never seen a talent treat the crew better. he is such a class act. the reality is ann curry was not right for that role. everybody knew it. and i actually had dinner with matt while he was negotiating his contract. i said hey, i don't think she's the right chemistry. why don't you find somebody different? he said absolutely not. i would never do that. so why he is getting blamed for this is so absurd. she wasn't right for that job. enough. >> but the story that came out of new york magazine painted a different picture, i don't pretend to know matt. i'm sure he's a wonderful man. ann curry wanted advice from him, and he shunned her. and, you know, jason, you know this. when you have -- when you're on a team, your goal is to win the game or, in this case, to put on a good show and act like you get along, despite what is going on behind the scenes. matt lauer was not a team player. >> you're wrong. this show is his show. he wanted to do everything possible to make it work. sometimes, there are things that

just aren't working, in business and in television. and in marriages. >> but shouldn't he have made more of an effort? >> i was there. he made a long effort. and it was not his call. and he's one of the best guys around. the fact that he's getting kicked around is ridiculous. >> all right. with that, we're going to take it to opening day. today is opening day in america. we're going to get to the point of opening day when we get back. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. that's why you need lifelock to relentlessly protect what matters most... [beeping...] helping stop crooks before your identity is attacked. and now you can have the most comprehensive identity theft protection available today... lifelock ultimate.

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today is opening day. major league baseball opens up with a moment of silence to remember all of the victims in the sandy hook massacre.

is it possible that opening day says more about america than it does about baseball. my point is, america remembers, but has washington forgotten? >> you know, i was at the super bowl. i was on the floor when those 26 kids sang, and i've wept. i sat there and i've wept. i never cried at a sporting event just to know that those 26 kids represented 26 that weren't there. and now we're going to this moment of silence and still nothing has happened. it's easy to make a moment of silence. it's much harder to make a moment of sanity. congress is not acting. and obama actually has let them off the hook by waiting so long. >> we are a country with, unfortunately, a very short memory. we will -- obviously, we'll never forget this. but it becomes less and less part of the discussion. if you couldn't get something done 10 days after that, 20 days after that, he blew it. this is, to me, he was a president. and i've been a big supporter of him. this is one issue. he should have just gotten it

done. >> you don't need joe biden. you don't need a committee. what do you need? >> as time goes further away, it's harder and harder. >> you think obama blew it. he blew it by focusing on guns rather than the real issue. that could have stopped some of these shootings. you look at jared loughner. i have it here. it's frightening. psychologists said she saw signs of schizophrenia. but we have a classmate of his wrote you will see this guy on the news with an automatic weapon. and then he shoots 19 people. and six died. but this has been ignored because the focus has been on guns. it's politicize. >> it's not -- it's not -- it's all, you know, to said that we're focused -- we shouldn't focus on guns. >> we haven't heard about mental health. >> we have heard a lot about it. >> the average american, 90% of americans want automatic weapons out of people's hands.

it's that simple. >> 40% of guns in this country are purchased without a background check. can you imagine 40% of passengers? let me finish. can you imagine 40% of passengers getting only your airplane? >> he passed a background check. that's one thing. >> so to the point, what she's saying is we can't just pass laws to make us feel better if they're not getting to the heart of the probable. i think if the president had run with it, there would have been a lot of backlash. people would have said you're dancing on the graves of these children and you're using it to get what you want. hold on a second. so isn't there someplace where we can agree as a country? 80% of republicans are in favor of background checks. >> there's a lot of places. >> there's a lot of places where we can agree. but this is a contentious issue. this is a contentious issue. not just between republicans and democrats, by the way. but between urban and rural america who treat guns very differently. >> look, i called all kind of nra members for this. they don't need 30 magazine

bullet chambers. adam lanza got off 150 bullets in less than 5 minutes. >> i have to agree with donny. i think washington has dropped the ball on this. i hate to use a football analogy. but he has to take the football at this point. immediately after the sandy hook incident and put your head down and run it through. you know what, we talk about sensitivities and forcing down somebody's throat. look, in a week's time, the nra is sponsoring a race in texas. >> a nascar race. >> are they dancing on the graves? are they using it for their benefit? are they throwing it back in their face? look, president obama could have gotten it done. it's not over yet. it needs to be done. >> guys, we are a huge -- we are a country of the moment. forget -- i don't want to make it a gun debate. what i'm saying as a marketer, a businessman, the window was never more wide open. and if you couldn't get it done then, it's not getting done. >> more of this.

>> why do you think that way. do you realize they both had nra certificates they found in the house? >> the nra is half the problem. >> we'll work on mental health. but do you still need 30 bullet magazines? >> that didn't make a difference. >> he couldn't have gotten off 150 shots in four minutes. >> but what we're embodying here is across party lines and across the country. people feel there's got to be places where our elected officials could agree on something. and i think that's what everybody is thirsting for in the country. that's what we're going to see in congress. >> like donny said. it needed to be done in that immediate window. and it, unfortunately, was not done. >> no, my point is, the things that are the most polarizing. the things that make the hardest change, you need something else to make it happen. he had that. that's my point. we could talk about our gun debate for 17,000 hours. my point is as somebody who's trying to be a change agent, it was never a better moment. >> i think margaret is so right. let's get something done for these families.

we owe it to them. mental health, let's focus on that. let's give it a shot. when we come back, we're all going to have a drink. [ laughter ] >> and we're going to introduce a segment that's new. of course, the show is brand new. and it's a lot like my high school basketball career. it's pointless. and the first pointless winner we have involves the first time i've ever told a victoria's secret model to get out of here. we'll be back.

so have you heard about this victoria's secret model? her name is cameron russell. she says she feels guilty about making people want the kind of body she has. because it's unattainable to them. this girl doesn't exercise and doesn't diet. and she says she doesn't want to promote a standard of beauty that most women can't attain. so my point is should we hold a telethon for this girl so she can quit modelling? and get back to what's really important -- i mean, either stop modelling or shut up. you can't do both, right? that's my pointless part of the day. >> she's been a part of an industry, seeing an issue coming forward to it. by the way, whether she stops or

not, and this isn't -- we all know if you have daughters, the problems they struggle with weight, i'm going to come back to we think it's the parents' issue. men like curves. >> this is like jason saying i feel bad that i'm 6'5", 240. and can run a 4.3 40. >> it would be like him coming out and saying we're problems with helmets. >> he won the lucky sperm lottery and he got to be an nfl super star. >> she came out and brought an issue forward. >> she went to wellesley. >> do you still think it's pointless? >> she went to wellesley. she got a degree. >> i have another pointless story for you guys. you know, yesterday, you thought of easter, i'm sure. as 78% of americans. but you know who didn't was google. they thought of it as cesar chavez day. which is why they put him at the top of the google doodles that they didn't. -- did.

rather than the obvious easter egg we all think of. it's outrageous. it's outrageous. >> yeah, she's not asking for an image of the vacated tomb. she's just saying have an easter bunny. >> who cares? who cares? who cares? what difference does it make? i mean, it's such lunacy to be of concern because google didn't put an image -- it's like, guys, let's get a life. she said it's pointless. >> but here's another one. why wouldn't you acknowledge easter. you're google doodles. they acknowledge april fools' day. >> so google features easter. points for trying. >> okay. one more piece of information of this, they have never featured easter. >> google is anti-easter, that's what it means. it's pointless. >> okay. points for trying. budweiser.

bud light, the new symbol for same-sex marriages is the equals sign. and bud, like a bunch of other advertisers came forward. now i'm going to give them a try because they were very smart. obviously, i think a gay audience is probably a little bit more on the target. why didn't they do it with overall budweiser? why not -- >> you're going to beat them up for that? >> no, no, no. it's a great thing. one of the proudest things in my career was, in the early '90s, with ikea, we were the first company with first commercial, we did the first commercial that showed two gay guys shopping for furniture. there had been no gays in advertising. and at the time, i got such vicious hate mail. and we've come such a great, long way that now these huge corporations. >> i love this. i hope the supreme court comes down on the right side of history. and we know that america's 54% for this. that's up 21% from ten years ago. this is going to happen. my point is why shouldn't businesses be on the right side of marketing.

>> some people would say points for trying. this is only on line. this is only on facebook. they changed their little icon. but if they were really serious, they would have signed on this corporate brief for 200 companies. >> but i'm going to say something on behalf of it. >> wow. the only reason they did that, the owner had come out against it. my point is corporations don't have a moral imperative, they have an imperative to their share holders. if they can push the common good forward and advance their business, it's not their job or any other job to push forward same-sex marriage. >> michael jordan once said they asked why michael jordan never got involved in political issued. he said look, republicans choose -- buy shoes, too. they put their tone in the water a little bit. it's better than nothing. >> how about a golfer? >> i'll give you points for trying. >> i think it's despicable what jordan said. he's never once taken a cause. he could have supported all -- he's never once -- how many yachts can you ski

behind, as they said in greece? how much money do you need to make a stand? >> so we're going to come back to the points for trying? there's a golfer? >> yeah. >> let's get points for trying. listen, andreas hartone. he's a danish golfer. he hit a bad shot in a par 3. he put the ball in the water. takes his socks and shoes off. realizes i don't want to get my pants wet. he hits a ball out of the water on his underwear on a par three. he still made bogeys. if i want to hit the ball in the water, i'm not going through all of that. just go in and give him points for trying. we're talking about it. he made espn. he made tv, so good for him. >> i don't see why it's a big deal. i cover golfers all of the time who takes he has pants off. tiger woods. >> ladies and gentlemen, the comedy styling. >> tiki room. >> we are going to pivot for all sorts of everything.

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welcome back to "the point." we're going to be here all week. my question is do you guys think americans are overmedicated. it turns out 11% of kids, ages 4 through 17, have been diagnosed with adhd. this is 6.4 million children. by the way, that number is up 50% in the last decade. so are we -- have we just -- is there a new normal? or are we overmedicating our children? >> neither. it's basically we just have more information. look, i, as a kid, would have been diagnosed with adhd. there's not even a question. >> yeah, i can believe that. >> and i do think that we can't say -- oh my god, we're overmedicating. we're overmedicating. i'm going to make a point about parents. no study is going to tell me that if i had a kid that had those needs, i'm going to medicate or not. i hate these things we're overmedicating our children. we have more information out there.

s what parents do with it, it's up to them. >> you just said you're adhd. you're clearly not adhd. >> no, i had the coping skills to be able to navigate around it, some kids don't. by the way, my parents would have made a decision. if i was diagnosed with it, do i nd medication or not. we just have more information now. >> but do you think medication is necessary? >> sometimes yes, sometimes no. >> but isn't it possible that we're seeing all of these kids with this behavior and we're just medicating them immediately. >> you keep saying they. my point is there are more options now and parents need to have the responsibility whether kids do or don't need medication. >> but they don't always have that. i think we're too quick to medicate. i agree with you that we have more information nowadays. so we're diagnosing this more often. similar to the concussion issue in the nfl. they've always been there. but in the last 10, 15 years -- >> so are we overmedicating? >> my point is when we start making changes, are we

overreacting? or we just have more information? >> well, i think you have to deal with each issue differently. some kids need the medication. some kids do not need the medication. they may be able -- similar i'm sorry, similar to you, they may be able to develop those coping skills to navigate through it. but i think nowadays, parents are too quick to go to a doctor. we get pills and medicine for everything. as we do that, we're becoming increasingly dependent. as we become adults. >> jason is right on this. i have seen it firsthand. i've seen kids laugh and say i went to the doctor and convince him that i'm adhd. smart kids who got here. they want the pills. you know, there's a big market for it. kids would sell their a.d.d. medicine to others. there's a study, 30% at the university of kentucky have used illegal stimulants. because it makes you focus. >> before test. by the way, how come nobody is noticing energy drinks up are 18%. these energy drinks give you 260 milligrams of caffeine.

a cup of coffee, 60. people are buying these energy drinks, red bull, like crazy. and by the way, we need ritalin to help you focus. which is it? i think this survey, by the way, was done completely by phone. i think parents want their kids to get in good schools and they give this medicine to these kids. >> i so passionately disagree with these blanket statement. there are certain medications, whether they're antidepressants that help children and certain ones that don't need to make a blanket statement that say parents are giving their kids medication. there are certain medications that save kids' lives. >> you think oxycontin is overprescribed? that's a drug on the street. >> that's a narcotic. there's a little bit of a different between a narcotic. >> how about antibiotics that are making us more than likely to get some of these horrible viruses. >> i think we as a country get into these blanket statements

where, as of right now, over medication is a problem. >> is the point overdiagnosis? and that's not what's normal. >> my point is the diagnosis can be there, but it's for the parents to decide what you do about that medication may be the answer and it may not be the answer. we can't hide our fact to say that there's more diagnosis. it's what you do about it. >> but these doctors will make more money by seeing four patients in an hour and prescribing pills than they will having a 45-minute counseling session. >> those are two different things. >> i understand. but i think this leads to overmedicating our kids. instead of having a chance to sit down and develop those coping skills. >> some kids can't. >> i make money from the insurance company. next patient. >> by the way, the doctors all say this adhd can be nullified if kids get sleep, get exercise and eat right, and we're getting rid of gym class. there's almost no gym classes left in school. >> speaking of no gym classes,

remember that commercial, bacon, bacon, bacon? bacon is hotter than ever. what is our obsession with bacon? when we come back. >> it's so good. >> i need more bacon.

guys, who likes bacon? rise your hands. >> who doesn't like bacon? i'm raising two hands. >> who's obsessed with bacon? >> we've gotten a little crazy in this country. right now, burger king has come out. we have them here. bacon tater tots. 500 calories in ten of them. now, we know that bacon, everybody loves it. but it is part of our obesity in this country. >> what do you think? how is it? they're pretty good. >> they're so good. >> i wear bacon cologne. so i'm not good. >> i want to ask you guys a question. should we, the same way mike bloomberg in new york said, okay, 64-ounce drinks are hurting our country causing obesity, causing a whole economic downfall. should somebody be stepping in and moderating bacon a little bit? >> have you ever been down south? >> yes. >> this is the filet mignon of the south. i'm a vegetarian, but i eat bacon. >> out of her cold, dead hand. but is there a line? is there such a line of gluttony that maybe we get to?

>> this is what moderation is about, right? all things in moderation. bacon, my favorite bumper sticker has, bacon. it's meat candy. >> speaking of -- burger king has always been great to bacon. do you realize burger king had a bacon sundae? i hope we had a picture of it. it was bacon-flavored ice cream. i thought how great is that. i want to show you a dress that you definitely don't want to wear to the dog park. and this is a dress here, yeah, you don't want to wear this to take your dog to the baseball game. >> lady gaga's dress? >> it's a whole dress made of bacon. how great is that? >> that's disgusting. i'm sorry. >> there's a -- there's a socal california chain that has a burger that is entirely made up of bacon. and then they put bacon on top and bacon cheddar cheese. and then just for fun, they put an egg on top. >> i don't want to be the party pooper. but somewhere along the line,

the entire economy doesn't work because of health care issue. but i don't want to be the budding point. >> just because we like bacon doesn't mean that's the obesity problem. >> literally, these fast food companies do not stop in the level of lard. >> so should we ban all bad foods then? >> it's not a nanny state. >> no, that's the problem. it's a problem. >> i like bacon. i had a double order this morning at breakfast. there is a restaurant in miami. they have a great bar. prime 112. >> i know it. yeah. >> they have bacon at the bar. they have a cup of bacon. >> in glasses. >> they don't serve bar nuts. they have bacon. and i will drive 45 minutes from the house to get it. but what i will not do is drink more than 16 ounces of soda. >> speaking of which, the show is almost over, who gets a bonus point. who made the best point all night. >> margaret gets a bonus point. >> for what? >> let's do something for the sandy hook victims. like you said, we owe it to them

and it's sad that we've done something sew far. >> i didn't realize that 30% of georgetown students sell their ritalin. >> university of kentucky. >> much different. good point. >> i think you brought up a point that michael jordan has never stood behind anything. i think at that level, you have some responsibility. not take on every issue, but be less concerned about the endorsements. i mean, this is an icon of our time. >> i agree with that. i hadn't realized that either. what do you think? >> i want to give a point to donny. i think for the whole adhd thing, you can't paint everybody with a broad brush. that every case is individually and different. i have friends who have kids that are very, very adhd and they have issues with it. so medication works for some. does not for others. parents need to be very, very responsible. >> i'm sorry. i got totally distracted. what did you say? >> just eat. >> just have some more bacon. >> and that's it for "the point" tonight. >> before we go, my dad is recuperating dow f