and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied, increased red blood cell count, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. ask your doctor about the only underarm low t treatment, axiron. hi, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it's good to have you with us. 211 crew may sound like a rap group, but it is a very dangerous white supremacist prison gang. two of its members are being sought for the murder of the colorado choef prison official, tom clements. they are armed and dangerous. clements was noted for cracking

down on prison gangs, including 211 crew. martin savage is in denver and joins us on the phone with the very latest. and criminal attorney joey jackson joins me. marty, let he just begin with you. the very latest on this, and if officials had any clue as to where these two people may be or may be heading? >> yeah, ashley, at this particular time, authorities are saying that they have some information. we don't flow how solid, that they may be headed in the direction of nevada or texas. now, of course the fact that their names are out there, that the police have opinion alerted to them, that may change their travel plans, but that is the only information we've had. and authorities did not have any description of the vehicle. >> i can only imagine they're keeping a lot of things close to the vest as good investigators do. but at the same time what connection do they have between these two people and then the killer of the prison chief, evan

ebel who's now dead? >> right, evan ebel is the prime suspect. he of course was killed in texas in a shootout. ever since then the case hasn't ended. they want to find out a couple things. did he have accomplices and were there other names on a potential hit list and could those accomplices be trying to fulfill that list. so that's why the investigatee investigation always gone on. anybody who was acquainted with ebel is now a person of interest you could say. these men are not wanted in the sense that there are warrants out for them in the particular case of the murder of clementss. but they are wanted because they were associates of ebel. so that's the connection receipt now. 211, probably one of the most vicious white supremacist gangs that operates in the u.s. prison system right now. so they're associated with that right now and that's a bad

combination. >> i don't know if you know the answer to this. ghouly and lohr, were they in fact inmates with ebel? they're not escaped inmates. it's not like they're looking for escapees, but were they at some point inmates who are now parolees? >> >> that's the connection we haven't been able to establish and authorities aren't really talking about it. they use the term associated in some way. so did they meet in prison? it's quite possible that they did. or is it possible that they met after he got out? we don't know at this particular point. and how strong was the connection? we don't know that either. we do know that these men are considered armed and dangerous. and authorities want to find them. and the problem for them is they believe they're dangerous to law enforcement, the very people trying to track them down. >> which has been a pervasive story for the last two weeks with a litany of law enforcement officers across the country be

being killed. some possibly related to gang activity, some not yet established that way or may never be. but joey jackson, if you could step in on this particular story. and that is prison gangs are dangerous. we know that. but how pervasive can they be outside of the prison? what are their communications like? if we can track down terrorists in afghanistan can't we track down it gang members here in our own home? >> it's more pervasive as we would think. as we do know gang members are very pervasive in prison. and there is communication on the outside. and so significant damage can be inflicted by members who are not incarcerated, but they're out there in the public, of course, not only as it relates to law enforcement and posing a danger to them, which they do, and they try to protect us every day, but to the normal population who is unfortunately subject to their pill anding and the numerous other things that they do. and it's also important to note

that these two people who are on the run do have warrants for their arrest. one having a felony warrant. the other having multiple misdemeanor warrants. it's the hope that with law enforcement and the public's effort that they will be brought to justice as they should be. >> and at this point, and i mentioned this already. i think it's obvious when investigators are looking for people they don't tell us everything. they've got to keep things close to their vest, but would we know there's something they can bring them in on? if there are outstanding warrants, isn't that an automatic? and we should have been looking for them before today. >> there are break downs in the system, and as you have mentioned they always play the investigation close to the vest. they have to do it that way. that's part of what law enforcement does. unfortunately these people are out there. and who knows the damage they could inflict. people should be on a heightened awrarness. it's just the hope that through law enforcement and with the public's cooperation if you see

something, say something and perhaps they will be brought in and ultimately arrested, and rehenned and brought to justice. >> joey jackson, thank you. and marty, i know you're continuing to work this story in colorado. just a remind ir. thomas ghouly and james lohr. i want to remind you to tune in tonight as tom clements window is going to join anderson cooper. the district attorney of kaufman county, texas is set to be remembered in just a few hours along with his wife cynthia, all of this as police there have searching for their killers. governor rick perry has significant to say about this. secure the border. does he know something more about who killed those two people? you can pick where to get your car fixed, we can cut you a check, or, at our service center, we take care of everything for you.

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five days after the killing of a top district attorney, he was shot dead. his chief prosecutor mark hassy

was shot down earlier. cnn's going to bring you the news conference when it happens. ha public memorial service for the victims is due to start at 2:00 eastern time. live from kaufman, texas. listen to hear that they are no closer to charging any one, george, but then to hear the governor allude to border security be being perhaps an issue in this case, makes the average guy like me think that he may know something we don't know. is there more to this? >> you know, ashley, and that sh the question that we of course will press the governor on. we know that governor perry has halls made a topic of worlder security here along the texas/mexico border. and he did not speculate,

ashley, on those other options out there. the question as to whether this could be an inside hit or a hit for hire. we've heard that from people as well. but there are no frontrunners. just a lot of speculation. and these investigators here, they are very tight-lipped about anything. just the other day, they held their second news conference. the second time they've addressed the media, and really the concerns about what's happening here. they did indicate that they have many new tips coming in. and that is good news, but did not give any insight into where this case is cite now. >> so forgive me if i'm somewhat mixed up and maybe even viewers are wondering what is going on in the united states when we start our program with a story about 211 gang members sought in connection with the colorado prison chief. and then we hear about the arian brotherhood of texas, another prison gang looked at in the killing of the prosecutors in the state where you are, in texas.

and then we hear that there has been someone who has been arrested already not connected at all to that kind of activity, but a man who was making tearistic threats. >> it seems that they are not telling us. it's a fair question. do they know. even in the news conference the other day they did say they aren't any closer to an arrest but they are looking into all those leads. you mentioned an arrest, about nick morale. he was arrested indirectly connected to this case. he allegedly made calls to the tip line for this case and made a threat against a public official. that's why he was arrested. he's being held on a $1 million bond. but even mr. morrell, investigators say he is not the link to this murder case.

>> oh, for heaven's sake. it gets more complicated. obviously, when the governor addresses people where you are and hopefully the national audience, he'll be able to shed some light. thank you. just ahead, another community mourning the death of, you guessed it, a law enforcement officer. now we're going to go to west virginia where a sheriff was shot point blank while sitting in his vehicle on a lunch break. blast of cold feels nice. why don't you use bengay zero degrees? it's the one you store in the freezer. same medicated pain reliever used by physical therapists. that's chilly! [ male announcer ] beay zero degrees. freeze and move on.

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so far this hour, we have talked about a lot of crime that sounds awfully similar. a colorado prison chief murdered at his own home. a district attorney in texas also slaughtered in his own home, receipt alongside his wife. we've also seen in that same state, that same county, an assistant district attorney gunned down at that courthouse in january. then we also have the story of a man who broke into a colorado prosecutor's home, a prosecutor who was married to a sheriff's deputy. now that intruder was shot and

killed by the prosecutor himself. and now we are hearing about yet another law enforcement officer gunned down, this time in west virginia. the sheriff of mingo county was gunned down as he ate his lunch. it was execution style. the suspect got away, but police were able to track him down. and shoot him. and he is expected to survive. it's just the latest in a string of law enforcement deaths across their country. and our cnn national correspondent is currently in west virginia. >> susan, let me begin with you. we have a live suspect now. perhaps someone who can shed some light. perhaps someone who can link this or not to everything else going on across the country. what do we know about his condition? can he talk in. >> he can talk. he's expected to survive. waiting for word now from investigators who tell me that when he is well enough to talk again, they will be visiting him

in the hospital. but here's what we also learn, carol, that after he was shot, after he was arrested, i am told by the west virginia state police that this guy did say something to them. now police will not reveal what this is. they said it could be interpreted in a few different ways, but it could possibly help explain the motive. now we learned something else just a little while ago. this is according to a source who is familiar with the suspect in this case, tells me that he was previously institutionalized at a state hospital for an unspecified period of time for mental health issues within the last couple of years. we don't know, at this time, who had him institutionalized, whether it was a family member, whether it was someone from the police department. we don't know that information. how mu however, we do know the suspect. and his name is tennis maynard.

the father tells our affiliate that his son did have mental health problems, suffered after what he called a workplace accident in alabama some years ago. when he was supposedly exposed to some dangerous chemicals as his father explains it. so all of this plays into the big picture of trying to figure out what happened here. >> i want to bring in sunny on this. the fact that we have a live suspect after sort of this rash of shootings and targetings it seems across the country could really help shed some light on whether this is a connected problem or whether it is just individual and coincidental. however, we have a dad weighing in, which makes me think a lawyer may be present which makes me think miranda might be next. >> the suspect did say something, i think we can glean a little bit of information about this particular incident, but i do want to say, and i want to make it very clare.

this is extremely rare. not necessarily unfortunately law enforcement officers like sheriffs, like police officers being gunned down. >> that is part of being in the line of fire, often. but prosecutors, in particular, being killed, being targeted, is extremely, extremely rare. i mean, if you threaten a prosecutor, especially a federal prosecutor it's a federal offense. it's a state offense to harm a prosecutor. >> and would you know because you were a prosecutor. >> and i was threatened several times. and i will say most people say prosecutors are like cockroaches. i suspect that these aren't all related. that just doesn't quite make sense to me. >> when i say miranda's next, i mean miranda warn beings. i'm not sure about west virginia, but it is a capital offense if you kill a law enforcement officer. so the execution style killing

of this deputy, or rather this sheriff who was in his vehicle, that is huge. this could be a tet penalty case. and you can only imagine they being extraordinarily careful not to destroy a case before they get started and allow miranda warnings, which doesn't help us at all in terms of figuring out what's going on across the country. >> there's no question that once someone lawyers up and is mish anodized that your chabss of getting testimony from that particular suspect, that stops. but again, investigators have been on these cases for quite some time. the fact that this suspect did speak. that is going to be extremely helpful. i like your point, and to your point, that this in many states can be a capital offense when you attack a law enforcement officer. and it's so very rare. >> you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. if you get that information the wrong way you destroy the case

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first to you, this juror number five is talking. but just a little. what's she saying and how? >> yeah. we communicated through a friend, and she released a statement to us. and it's pretty telling the statement. as a juror that has been removed from the jury i would like to remind everyone that the murder trial case of jodi arias is still going on, and that the time and money being invested in had this money are morrell vant and important than my removal from the jury. until the verdict in the murder trial is reachedly not make any statements or give any interviews regarding my removal from the jury. i believe that the attention should be focused on the actual trial. i would ask everyone to please respect my prief assy and the privacy as my family. while clearly everyone would love to hear from juror number

five, it's not going to happen until a verdict is reached. >> i know there isn't a gag order in this case, but did the judge say something to these jurors that they can't talk until we have a verdict? >> well, jurors are not -- current jurors obviously cannot talk to any one and asked if they hear or any one tries to talk to them. i find it fascinating about juror number five. they couldn't gag her. there is a free right to speak. they could have encouraged her and cautioned her that the trial is still ongoing and a subtle megs and to not talk. but what i find interesting is she could have stepped before the camera to say everything that was in that written statement there. she chose not to, and i find that amazingly telling. she is not asking for that moment of fame at least until this a verdict. there may be two verdicts here,

a guilt verdict and a penalty verdict. >> it's weird because sometimes judges do unusual things. i think i recall in the casey anthony case that the judge asked the press to lean out and called it a cooling-off period. i wondered if there was some kind of admonishment in this case. we do know something more about -- we only had a hairstyle on her before. and a juror number on this woman before. but now we know more. what did you find out? >> well, show's a bosnian i am grant and a truck driver. she and her husband drive truck together. she's a mom, has a teenage daughter. and she came over to over from bosnia after the war. she has relocated here in the phoenix area. it's a tight knit community. so everybody knows each other.

and the other thing is, she is very upset. very upset that she was kicked off. she put in a lot of time, four months of her life. she waned to see it through, according to her friends. and that goes to what jean said. the fact that she's not out belly aching on the steps goes to the integrity of this individual. >> jean, i can't even begin to count the number of high profile cases you have covered. and i'm not going to ask for a scientific answer here but for a general at. how did jurors leave one of these big newsworthy cases and stay buttoned up and how often do they go get a book deal, go before the press and tell everything, every sordid detail about what went on in drib rations or before deliberations. >> that's a great question because you're talking about someone who could be potentially a stealth juror. a person who is in it for the publicity, the moments of fame

and for the money that could be involved for them. we have seen it. i have seen jurors dismissed, excused before the deliberations begin. i don't usually see them come forward at that time. but they do usually finally come forward. but then they're behind the scenes. because they're not the deliberating jury. jurors come in all forms or fashion but this one, every day i watch them, and i think they are the real deal. >> do they ever? i think you and i remember, i they will you'll remember it too, were covering the first round of the phil specter case and a producer made it onto the jury. we all said what? you've got to be kidding. it was a mistrial, but it surprised a lot of us. we go in for jury duty and they say yeah, you need to leave. thank you for your insight and your patience in all the coverage you've been doing.

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we're seeing a pretty emotional jodi arias all throughout her capital murder trial. or at least her first degree murder trial. she seemed to be crying in court yet again yesterday. there she is at defense table, keeping it together but not really. the defense's domestic violence expert was up on the stand. and for whatever reason seemed to strike a cord when she was testifying about jodi's relationship with her ex-boyfriend, travis alexander. >> so as of this particular, in late january of 2008, given

everything you know about the abuse that's occurred before and now the kicking on this time, how would you characterize their relationship at this point in time given your expertise in the area? >> i would call it a domestically abusive relationship. >> domestically abusive relationship. take a look again. it's susle, but is it not subtle enough for the jury to take close note and pay attention. it seems like there may be something there. if so, what does that do for her? or against her? emotional displays in court, plus the testimony of being abused. is it a sympathy card that could ultimately help to set her free? i want to bring in jean ca sar ez. and anchor of hln after dark. i want to you watch another piece of tape before you come up with that answer or at least it may affect your answer.

this is the domestic abuse expert on the stand. and it's all about how jodi in court is reacting. take a look. >> if you're doing things that you don't want to do, even if you act like you like doing them, which i've seen people do a lot or even if you like some of it, because usually people do like their sexual intimacy. it, and you keep doing it, and you're not doing it because you want to to it, you're doing it because you feel like that's what keeps the relationship together. you stop liking who you are, because their is not what you want. >> so first question, jean, would be to you. we could see her crying because the camera position is nice and close. can the jury see her crying? and do we know if they reacted in any way whatsoever to it? >> it's a big court rom and jodi is a ways away from the jury.

but i worked hard to see if jurors were looking at her. bass the angle is almost the same as where the defense attorney is. i brief jurors were looking at her. i felt like their eyes were positioned on jodi at some points. does it help? now normally we see defendants that don't crack an emotion. i mean, they are so stoic and could care less. as you hear this emotionally riveting testimony she's cried, and she's mainly cried whether the pictures are shown. it could help her in the penalty phase if not the guilt phase. >> we're not there yet. there's a critical step in that phase. that would be guilty. you don't go to a penalty phase unless you're guilty. with that in mind, how critical is it for jodi arias -- and i'm only talking about letter case, not defendants in general -- for jodi arias to mitigate what

happened on the stand, when people suggest that she seemed very cold and lunn likeable. does this help all of a sudden, crying at defense table? >> i think the defense hopes it helps. but she's got a problem, and you mentioned that 18 days on the stand. yeah, she does cry when travis' picture is up there. but a lot of times she's crying when they're talking about her. so she is trying to build a connection with that jury. you saw whether see was on the stand she was turning addressing them. she wants them to feel like they know her, they connect with her. but the problem is always the same thing, do they believe her? because a lot of what this witness is talking about is about what jodi wrote or told her. so if they don't believe her, and the witness is up there talking about oh, this could be abuse over and over again. if they don't believe her it's all empty. the tears, everything else is empty. and even in the death phase, even if you feel like you know her, you may still have that feeling of you know what, i don't trust her. i don't believe her. you may see the same thing

happening in the death phase. >> maybe a lot more tears at that time, as well, because that's when you really have to get through to jurors that this is a life worth saving. we're not there yet. we have a long way to go at this point. thank you to both of you. i want to replient our viewers that you can tune in and watch the jodi arias trial. it's live on hln. in the meantime, michael jackson may be dead, but another case lives. who employed the doctor who's in jail for killing him? and there may be someone who knows a lot about lihis day to y life. his personal body guard to spent a lot of time with him is coming up next. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen.

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thanks for be being with us. the key to this trial is just who employed dr. conrad murray. was it in fact michael jackson who was his boss? or was it aeg, the company behind the concert? as an employee of mr. jackson's and as someone who was around him all the time, was he capable of employing any one, hiring, firing? >> it's good to see you again ms. banfield. from what i've seen in the way he dealt with us, he never handled any of his business directly. so on the side of if he was directly employed by mr. jackson, mr. jackson employed him directly, i don't see that happening. >> how was it for you? you worked with him. you were there with him, his kids, in his house, outside his house. you saw their day to day. but at the same time you had your issues, just functioning as a paid employee. >> right, we didn't get paid for

several monthsme. he wasn't in charge of his own business. to say that mr. jackson employed him it directly, i don't think that was the case. >> so that would speak very well to aeg's case, because they say they weren't the guys who had hired conrad murray, or doesn't speak to his case, sorry. one of the things that aeg does say is that michael jackson was so affected by all of the civil trials he went through in the it pedophile allegations three was a wreck, that he was drug addled and an insome knack who needed treatment and he was responsible for his own death because of going through all that. what were his nights like? >> well, definitely, you know, there was a situation that was going on. but i think that the fact that, you know, when you're in the care of a doctor and the

doctor's taking care of you, and at the end of the day, who's paying the doctor, which i, from what i've learned is that it was aeg. once the doctor signed the contract of being that doctor, he's in full responsibility. >> so what about the nights though? is what aeg says true about just the notion that this was an insome knee ak? did you see him up in the night wandering, those kinds of things? >> we have his times when he would be up at night, but you've got to understand it can be kind of boring being in the house all the time or being inside the hotel. so i think being up at any hour of the day is irrelevant. it's not necessarily something important to look at. i mean, he did live in kind of a closed world, so him being up at 4:00 in the morning or singing or practicing, you know, that's not uncommon. >> what about his life with his

kids? what kind of dad was he? did you see -- >> fantastic. >> was he the same ? did he do things the way most parents do? >> he did above and beyond. he was very huge on their education. always quizzed them. if we went to go see i max videos and things like that he would quiz the kids. i remember being in virginia. we had our food catered to us. he didn't want the breakfast catered to the house because he wanted to make the children breakfast every single morning. you're talking about a guy who's very hands on with three children. >> you liked him, right, as your boss? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> and must be watching their case very closely, mike. >> yeah. you know, having the conversations of him passing, it's incredible to see how, what this guy was doing for the world and how he felt for his fans and

things leak that. it's very, it's a shame, you know, it's a shame that somebody like that is not with us anymore. he, and he treated us with the utmost respect. for us that was very pleasant to see because we weren't getting paid and things like that. so i was very hands on. he would make the calls for us to get paid. so with him treating us and asking about our families and very personalable with us, we appreciated that. >> i hope we talk again. they're in jury selection now. nice to see you again. >> thanks, ms. banfield. >> we encourage you to watch the michael jackson, final days documentary. coming friday night at 10:00 eastern on cnn. back right after this

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jails, let's face it, are necessary evils. you got to have them. somebody's got to pay for them. and they're really not supposed to be evil at all. they're not supposed to be comfy, but the lockups in new orleans just have to be seen to be believed. and the feds say they have to be cleaned up. cnn's sara ganinn has more.

>> an inmate with a gun in a cell packed with prisoners, another appears to be shooting up heroin. all caught on video on a cell phone smuggled into the jail. inmates free to roam, even leave. this incredible footage was shown in a federal courtroom in a lawsuit over how to pay to fix horrifying prison conditions. >> nobody going to feed us. >> reporter: the footage is several years old and was recorded at the now-closed house of detention in orleans parish. this facility was not alone. many others just as bad in orleans parish are still open. they along with several former inmates sued the sheriff last april. he's in charge of running the jail. as shocking as it is to watch this video, reading the details

in the lawsuit is just as disturbing. mental health patients denied care. inmates beaten by staff. and raped by other prisoners. guards instigating fights. this father lost his 32-year-old son to suicide in the prison two years ago. >> hearing some of the testimony and looking at some of the video of the jail itself, i cannot imagine the conditions any human being could live in those conditions. >> reporter: southern poverty law center and the office reached a decision in december. it was agreed that change would be made, but change costs money, money the city says it doesn't have. that's wlhy the case is still i court. the city's mayor says taxpayers are already investing more than $200 million to build new facilities. in a statement to cnn the mayor said "i cannot in good conscience cut vital services or raise taxes to put even more

money into an office where waste, fraud, and abuse run rampant." instead, he wants the federal government to step in and take control from the sheriff. >> he's been aware of these conditions since 2008. and the conditions have gotten worse. >> reporter: all of this takes us back to a disaster the new orleans area just can't seem to fully recover from, hurricane katrina. these with temporary facilities he was forced to use after the storm flooded parish prisons. eight of those temporary jails still house inmates today. sara ganim, cnn. >> and coming up later today, out front with erin burnett is going to dig deeper. her program starts 7:00 p.m. eastern time right here on cnn. okay, so this guy is sworn to serve and protect, not to steal. up next a police officer accused of robbing drug dealers.

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fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. a 17-year veteran of new york's finest is due in federal court this afternoon, not to testify against a suspect. instead, it is because he himself is a suspect using this gun and his badge and apparently other tools of his trade.

jose tajada headed up a gang that robbed drug dealers of more than $1 million worth of cocaine. that's about 250 kilos. it all happened over the past decade allegedly. my lawyers join me now on this cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and criminal defense attorney and law professor and "in session" contributor and super nice guy joey jackson with me. guys, i'm only smiling about this because this is really disgustingly bad. i'm only smiling because i can't believe it. but at the same time he's robbing bad guys. is anybody going to really care about this, sunny? >> that's the thing. his victims are drug dealers, right? so certainly no love loss there. but he used his badge to do it. i mean, allegedly this is what the government is alleging he provided this very violent drug crew with nypd equipment. we don't know exactly what the equipment is, but i suspect it's probably, you know, false search

warrants, false arrest warrants, perhaps uniforms, perhaps jackets. and they impersonated police officers in pulling this off. that is tarnishing the shield. i mean, they are supposed to serve and protect, not use that shield to rob drug dealers. so he was indicted. the indictment was revealed and unsealed late last night. and he will be arraigned today at 2:00 p.m. so this is a serious case. unfortunately, ashleigh, get this, the third officer charged in this case. so he wasn't even acting alone. which is remarkable to me. >> well, joey jackson, when you have to investigate one of your own, do you back off and do a little bit of the work? or do you go at it because this is supposed to be a club and you're making us all look bad? do they work extra hard? >> yeah, i think there's some extra hard work going on here. i think the internal affairs bureau gets it and they're on top of it. and certainly the vast majority of police are law-abiding and

this would never happen. in this case it's a question of integrity, it's a question of trust. so you don't want anyone out there abusing what they have, and that's public service to protect us all. and i know they all do. but every now and then you get an occasional bad apple like this. and, boy, what a story. it really should never happen. it did happen. it needs to end. >> it's an understatement, hey. sunny, you don't have any special laws that are designed especially for crooked cops, but do prosecutors -- sort of the same question again, do prosecutors treat it specially nonetheless? >> there's no question about it. again, prosecutors are part of the law enforcement community. and we need our communities to trust the team not just the prosecutor. i did reach out to the u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of new york. >> you have a couple sources there. >> i have a few sources there. and they are taking this seriously. they have provided a press release. and the u.s.