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as, again, we're showing you, these are aerial shots of the campus. what we know so far there are conflicting reports, but perhaps as many as 12 people who might have been stabbed or injured on that campus. one person who has been detained. another person who is still on the loose. we'll be following this breaking news story throughout the afternoon. want to bring in my colleague brooke baldwin who will take it from here. thank you. hi, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me on this tuesday afternoon as we begin with breaking news out of texas. take a look at these pictures as we explain exactly what is going on here on the ground. this is one of the campuses, there is a multicampus system here in texas, this is harris county this is in the houston area. this is lone star college. reports of multiple stabbings. you see all the white cars, clearly the police presence is there. in terms of numbers, and keep in mind this is still happening,
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the campus from what we know, according to this alert on this website, is still on lockdown. we're told as many as 14, 14 people are hurt. you see the big red letters, alert, if you google lone star college cyfair campus, this is what you see front and center on this college website. this is the school. alert, they are telling folks to stay away, stay away from campus, because one suspect is still at large. we know another suspect is in custody at this moment. we're seeing the video and we're just all seeing it together and we'll walk you through it as clearly they're checking cars, coming, going, as we mentioned, this particular campus on lockdown. one witness tells our affiliate the suspect appeared to be, let me underline that, appeared to be a student. working on getting mike brooks miked up here in studio, former law enforcement, knows all kinds
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of -- knows all kinds of situations involving campus lockdowns, worked in law enforcement for many years, have chad myers also standing by and he'll walk us through where we're talking about in texas. a couple of things, chad, you ready to roll? >> you bet. >> we were talking before the show started, this campus is the cyfair campus, northwest of houston. >> we talked about this lone star college before. this is not the first incident for lone star college. this is not the same campus. there are multiple campuses of this -- we'll call it a commuter facility. this is where you don't live on campus, you live at home, you drive to the campus, and you go to school and then you go to your job or you go home. almost like a community college type atmosphere out there. it is northwest of houston, where the last incident was up toward the woodlands, north of houston. but still harris county. and harris county proper is where the city of houston is. you take a line from houston,
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draw it to the northwest, 10 or 15 miles, you'll see the town of cypress. this is just south of the downtown of cypress, cyfair campus of the lone star college. >> let me interject. i'm getting new information. so this is what we're getting from the harris county sheriff. this is happening live. let's dip in and take a listen. >> -- as far as we know, he is the only suspect at this point. if anything changes, i will bring you up to date on that, as of right now, we have one suspect. i can't tell you anything to confirm that right now, but this is what we have. we have the suspect, the situation has been detained. the school is on lockdown. once that has been done, and we have gone through and the investigation continues, i will be able to give you more information. the chancellor of the college and sheriff garcia will be giving an official statement here within an hour or so. bear with us, it is a fluid scene. as soon as i can get everything i can, i will bring it out to you and we'll get everything
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covered. i can can't confirm the weapon as of right now. some reports of a pencil, some reports of a knife. until we find the weapon, i'll be able to confirm what it was. no motive as of right now. students were leaving from class and going to class. and it was attack at random. went from building to building. initial reports that maybe we had two suspects. i believe now it was the same person running from building to building. no second suspect at this time. >> how long is the lockdown going to go on? >> until our investigation is concluded. our first initial report was that this individual was wrestled to the ground by a student. lone star college police came and detained him and arrested him at that point. >> all of the victims are students, right? >> i can't confirm as far as --
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the extent of the injuries, i don't have. i don't know where the whereabouts are, maybe ms can give you more of that. the four that were life flighted, obviously their injuries were severe enough to be transported by life flight. >> 14? >> 14 from what we can confirm through cyfair. >> one suspect? >> one suspect in custody right now. nothing -- we'll continue to investigate, but as our initial reports are one suspect right now. deputy thomas gilliland. harris county sheriff's office. we'll have the sheriff and the chancellor. thank you. >> okay, so you have been listening to the public information officer with the harris county sheriff department. he said it, this is a very fluid situation.
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we want to be very precise on what exactly we're reporting here at cnn as far as what is going on there on the ground at the cyfair campus. this is northwest of houston. this is part of the lone star college campus community. multiple campuses. this is an area near cypress. what you just heard a couple of points wasn't to roll through, mike brooks i'll bring in in a second here. it sounds to me, according to the pio, they may have the one and only suspect detained. their initial reports that one person was in custody, looking for someone else here, and multiple stabbing situation that they're dealing with. it sounds like according to the public information officer it was a the same individual running from building to building. in terms of numbers, again, we're hearing stabbing, we're hearing 11, at least 11 stabbed at this texas college. as far as injuries, we know four of those 11 have been taken to hospitals by air. and, again that one person is in custody. and the question is, what was the weapon?
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and he couldn't say for sure. people had been saying pencil. people had been saying knife. they don't know. but, mike brooks, let me just bring you in and let me know if we need to grab the paper under the table, again, because this harkens back, we had a similar conversation not too many months ago, end of january, same college, different campus, a shooting situation. it was a sprawling situation, it was a lockdown situation, and it is tough to stop people from coming and going. >> it is. because it is an open campus. they put out an alert, campus wide, that originally two suspects, now we hear from the deputy, the harris county sheriff's office, it was one. and, again, the weapon, pencil, knife, they're not sure. but enough that there is four people probably in critical condition, you know. they're not going to life flight you unless you're critical. it is tough to control a campus like that, brooke. when you have such an open campus. you heard chad talk about the woodland hills campus of this
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particular school system again. and it is really tough because it is not a gate. there is not a big wall around it. so people can come or go and in this particular case, we don't know if this is a student or an outsider who just came on the campus. >> on the student point, let me -- i'm glancing down at my e-mail, roll with me. this is what we have from harris county, texas, sheriff's office. this is according to a cnn affiliate out of houston. ktrk. they're reporting a student at the school said he helped authorities take one person into custody, he says the suspect who appeared to be a student may be hearing impard and armed with a knife similar to an exacto knife that may be used in animal dissections. let me pause there. exacto knife. >> exacto knife, like a razor, you know, box cutter kind of knife. so not big, but there again, you know, doesn't take a big knife to do a lot of damage, especially if it is any kind of edged weapon like that, you can
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inflict some serious injuries on people. >> and something you can easily pop in your pocket. >> absolutely. exacto knife, could be one of those -- something you cut -- do dissections with, paper, anything else, carpeting, anything. it is a razor. >> this is according to this affiliate out of houston. let me pause because we have some sound from our houston affiliates, they're busy trying to talk to people, what are they seeing what are they hearing. let's take a listen. >> -- campus where it first started at, the health and science building, i was right in that area. we heard things and movement and what not of people, i don't know, officers detaining the man. >> so what do you know happened? what did you see and what have you heard? >> i didn't see -- i didn't really see anything. i just saw bodies -- people being carried to the ambulance. >> multiple stab wounds. people with multiple stab wounds, multiple victims. >> yes, sir. >> was anybody having an explanation for what was going
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on? >> no, sir. two of the girls that were brought into our classroom, so they were late to their class, and the guy that started it all was the one -- he was in their classroom with them, he said he had a box opener or something, and he ended up hurting two of the girls in that class. >> where were they cut? >> i have no idea. i think one said right around here in this area. >> anybody suggest a motive for this? >> no, sir. no idea. >> he was tackled out here. do you know who that person is? >> no, sir, i do not know. i heard students tackled him. i don't know the student that started all this. >> jonathan, thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. >> appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. god bless. >> let me pick up where mike and i were talking, about this exacto knife. this is according to ktrk. let me read what else we have from the harris county sheriff's department. this student, according to the houston affiliate, said he saw the suspect dressed in black, emerge from the building at a run, gave chase, when tackled, the suspect reportedly said i give up, i give up.
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the student adds he saw several people bleeding, including victims with neck wounds. they were tended by the medical crews as we reported, four airlifted. ktrk reports that violence broke out at the rear of the health sciences building, so when we talk health sciences, and if this is according to this student, mike brooks, talking about an exacto knife, something you use in a dissection, it would make sense. here we have it. can we get a tight shot of mike. >> it makes a lot of sense. makes a lot of sense. this is an exacto knife. one of our camera men here, and very, very sharp. basically it is a razor. this is the kind of thing that you would use in a health science building if you're doing any kind of dissection, so this is -- it is basically like a small scalpel. you can use it to cut a lot of different things, but, again, it is very, very small, but could be very, very lethal. >> can inflict -- >> absolutely. >> certainly can inflict pain. >> it can. >> the latest numbers we have at this particular college, looking at these pictures, 11 people
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stabbed. four people have been life flighted to area hospitals, which, again, tells us that the degree of those injuries could be severe. i say could. we don't know what the status of their condition is. and this one -- this one suspect is in custody. that public information officer, he did say the chancellor of the school, and also the sheriff of harris county, they will be speaking within the hour, we will certainly dip into that. but, again, this reminds me of a couple of months ago, similar campus. i'm trying to remember back then that was the issue with the gun, whether or not walking into these -- walking into these buildings, there would be metal detectors. >> no. >> no. >> a lot of these buildings there weren't. i remember that particular case, i was sitting here with you on set, talking about this, it was one student who had apparently had a beef with another student and opened fire and then was basically under control fairly quickly. i was watching, brooke, some of the live video that we're bringing in from our affiliates there, right before i came out with you, and it looks like
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there was no immediacy there, everything basically is under control. and it sounds also like it is from what the pio said for the harris county sheriff's office. >> mike brooks, thank you very much. we'll watch for the chancellor. we'll watch for the sheriff to come out. as far as i'm concerned, let me refresh this website here, as i'm talking to you live, yep, it still says alert in big red letters on the lone star college website. so it still says this campus, cyfair, is locked down. let's stay on this story, again. looking at more pictures. we're working on talking to more people there on the ground. you can see a lot of students standing around. not quite sure exactly what is going on. but the situation is that, according to the sheriff's department, 11 people have been wounded in this stabbing on this campus. this is a satellite campus, multiple campuses compromise this lone star college in harris county. this is the houston area. okay.
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just talking to my executive producer. let's listen to our affiliate producer on the ground in cypress, texas. >> the deputies are allowing students to leave campus right now. and we have been watching them for the last five minutes or so, it would appear they're searching cars. now, a little while ago we were told there might be another suspect they're looking for. those of you that were with us might have seen deputy gilliland come out and say at this point all they know of is one possible suspect. but, again, it is early. it appears they're checking -- looking now, checking for someone else. we don't have any details on that. we're hoping for more information very shortly. what we just heard a minute ago was that what happened here, a lone man, maybe a student, maybe not, we don't know yet, described by one student to us as a white male, blonde curly hair, about 6 feet tall, apparently walked in -- just outside the medical science building, or health science building, began attacking students with a box cutter.
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and by the time he was through, he had moved through that building, into another building, and wounded a total of 15 people. that's how many people cyfair -- the cyfair fire department treated out here. 12 of those -- 12 of those students taken to hospitals, four of them -- the four most critical taken by life flight to herman memorial hospital. two more taken there by ground ambulance. others taken to local hospitals near here in northwest harris county. at this point, they don't have a -- >> been listening to an affiliate reporter there as he's talking about how a lot of the police and law enforcement on the ground, because this particular college campus is still on lockdown, they're searching some of the cars, they want to talk to people, see what they saw and heard there on campus. i want to bring in alan bernstein, the public information officer with harris county sheriff's department. sir, are you with me? >> yes. >> let me just begin with what you know and i believe we just
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actually took you live, you were giving a briefing to reporters. do you believe that the one and only suspect is now detained? >> i'm not at the scene right now. i'm in touch with our people at the scene. we have no confirmation on a second suspect, if there is one. however, this is a sprawling campus with hundreds of people who have regular business there. and we have learned, unfortunately, from very recent fresh experience at a different lone star college campus in this community where there was a shooting a few months ago that it will take a long time to get through all the buildings, to interview everybody, to make sure there is not, a, another suspect or suspects, and, b, people who are injured who are not immediately attended to. >> you mentioned the sprawling nature of the campus. i remember the shooting from, you know, the end of january, and so, tell me, right now, is this campus still on lockdown, and tell me what your deputies are doing as we're watching them
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checking some of these cars, students are allowed to leave. >> there is -- it is on a lockdown. there is restricted movement on the campus. however, i think you can see that -- that it is not a run, hide moment still. that has been eased. but one of the reasons for the lockdown is the investigation is still continuing. and our people are making sure that there is no active development still going on. it does appear, however, that students and everybody else there, no immediate danger. what they're doing, among other things, is not only gathering information from anybody around who maybe has seen anything happen or know of anything else that is going on or people who have left or have information, but they're also, i'm sure, making sure that those buildings don't contain any other evidence
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or people, either victims or not, who need to be dealt with at the very -- at this very moment. >> what about, alan, the numbers. i know the story is fluid and we are -- we don't want to misreport any numbers as far as stab victims. but can you tell me, we're hearing 14 wounded. does that number hold? >> yes. we are confirming at least 14. at least four were transported by life flight helicopter. others are being treated at hospitals that are closer to this suburban campus on the northwest side of the houston area. and two refused treatment. >> of all the 14, were they all stabbed? >> yes. >> they were all stabbed. and the four that were life flighted, what condition are those four in? >> i should say they were all injured in the stabbing. there is possible that other people were running away and that may have caused injuries. they were all injured related to
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the stabbing. we do not know the conditions. we do know that four were in a dire enough situation that they were taken out on helicopters. >> this is mike brooks. we heard from deputy gilliland who spoke just a few moments ago that this person was going from building to building. how many active crime scenes right now do you have there on that campus? >> i'm unsure. we have to put it this way, that campus is a crime scene. and, again, as we have learned, unfortunately from recent fresh experience, we are never in a position to make any assumptions about what is not happening until we're sure that everything has been fully checked out. it is going to take a massive number of people and a decent amount of time for the final all clear to be passed down, because nobody wants them the mistake -- wants to make the mistake of walking away when, indeed, there
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is something lingering going on. we're just glad, right now that it appears that it is not a situation where students, faculty, staff and visitors are in any immediate danger or harm, but nobody is going to take for granted about whether or not there is something left that needs to be confronted right away. >> alan, two more questions for you. i want to let you go. one, do we know if this person, this suspect in custody, do we know if he or she is a student, a. and, b, do we know if the weapon as being reported this exacto knife, that this person had on their person. >> there are conflicting reports coming out as students and others are being interviewed. so we cannot confirm exactly what type of weapon or whether it was random going from one classroom to another. i do believe, however, that it was limited confrontation itself was limited to, you know, either a few or just one classroom, not somebody roaming around, you
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know, and getting into, you know, a large number of areas. >> and was it a student? or we don't know? >> cannot confirm. >> okay. alan bernstein, harris county, texas, sheriff public information officer. thank you very much. i know you got a job to do. i'll let you off the phone. on the phone now, robert rasa, cyfair volunteer fire department, public information officer. robert, can you hear he? robert, this is brooke baldwin at cnn. we're going to work on getting him. mike brooks what was your biggest takeaway, the campus is sprulin i sprawling, saying this is still a crime scene, this one suspect may be it, one person. it is still -- they're still combing through everything. >> this is early on in the investigation. they're going to be talking to everyone to find out, okay, where did this suspect come from? what happened? what did he or she, we're thinking -- we hear it is a male
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most likely what did he or she say leading up to this? we're hearing maybe a quote after someone grabbed the suspect and wrestled him to the ground. but, still, four -- at least 14 people that's a lot of people. you put 14 people in front of us, that's a lot of people for one person to do a lot of damage to, whether it be a pencil, an exacto knife, other kind of edged weapon, that's still a lot of people. >> agreed. 14 people. and that number could be changing as well. robert rasa, we have you on the phone. cyfair volunteer fire public information officer. robert, can you hear me? >> yes, ma'am. >> tell me where you are right now. >> we're on the campus of lone star college, cyfair campus. >> tell me what you're seeing right now. >> i can tell you about our response as far as fire and ems.
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15 patients we treated. 12 of those patients were transported. three were refusals, we treated them on scene and they refused transport. of the 12 patients that we transported, four of them were taken by helicopter with serious injuries. two were taken by ground two level one trauma center herman hospital downtown, with intermediate injuries and the rest of the injuries were taken to north cypress hospital with minor injuries. >> when you say serious injuries, of those four that went in a helicopter to this hospital, how were they injured? >> the injuries were consistent with lacerations. >> so they were knifed? slashed. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. what were they telling you? were they able to speak? tell me what they shared with
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you. >> it was a pretty chaotic scene. we had -- fortunately we had a fire station which is located on the campus, so when we received the initial call, dispatch center 11:17, we were able to go ahead and stage at minimum a fire engine and ambulance and ems supervisor. once we started getting more multiple calls and more information from law enforcement, we were able to get more resources to the scene and once they secured the area, we were able to get in our personnel. we had eight ambulances from our department, as well as engines, and we had two life flight helicopters. >> of those who were not, robert, seriously injured, who you had to treat asap and get on the helicopter, were any of them talking to you, explaining what happened inside this classroom? >> they were being interviewed by law enforcement on the scene. our main concern from the fire department and ems standpoint
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treating injuries and making sure they're okay. >> we were talking to the public information officer with harris county sheriff, and he was making the point that this is an active crime scene that these campuses and you're there and you can tell me better than we can looking at the pictures, these are huge campuses, sprawling campuses, correct? >> yes. fire department training facility is here located on this campus as well. as well as the ems training facility. >> so the response, i imagine, was very quick. >> yes, ma'am. we had multiple resources staged before law enforcement secured the scene and allowed us in. >> okay. >> robert rasa, thank you so much for your work there at lone star college. again, he was saying 15 and i don't want to say students, we don't know yet. 15 people were treat treated, 1 the hospital, four seriously injured, it sounds like, had to get to the helicopter and get to the hospital very quickly. we're getting more information.
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the big question is why. why did this happen? who did this? and was it a knife? we're learning much more about the weapon. we have that for you after the break. breaking news. [ kate ] many women may not be absorbing the calcium they take as well as they could because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption.
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breaking news on this tuesday afternoon here. reports of multiple stabbings on campus in the greater houston area. this is harris county. this is the lone star college. and if that name sounds familiar, it should. it was just the end of january when there were the students involved in shootings on campus. this was a different campus, this is a multicampus community college here in harris county. this is a different campus. this time we're talking stabbings this afternoon. we have been talking about multiple people here on the ground to get more information for you as it is very much so a fluid situation. this campus is on lockdown with
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limited mobility, according to one of the public information officers we were talking to. i have mike brooks in the decido for me, former law enforcement for many years. he can walk through. what we're hearing as far as numbers, from this public information officer, we're going to go with at least 14. at least 14 people wounded from this stabbing. talking, mike brooks, to one of the public information officers from the harris county sheriff's department. interesting because early reports were that there was possibly two people involved. sounds like now they seem pretty confident they have their guy, one suspect detained, he or she was not moving building to building but classroom to classroom. >> the initial alert put out said by the college itself said two armed suspects at lsc cyfair, lone star college cyfair, one suspect still at large, but from hearing from detective -- deputy gilliland, the first one that gave the statement, if you will, to our
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cameras, they were saying building to building and then heard from alan bernstein, public information officer with the harris county sheriff, classroom to classroom. interesting, i thought, talking to robert rasa, the pio with the cyfair volunteer fire rescue ems, at least 14 treated. he said 12 transported total. three on the scene treated. treated and released. four by helicopter. two by ground to a level one trauma center. that would say to me, there is six that are seriously injured. and he was saying lacerations. >> we were asking lacerations. can you be suspect. he was saying cuts, gashes. >> could be inside cuts, a stabbing with a cut, all these could be -- would be considered lacerations. we're hearing apparently from one witness, because they say -- one witness was saying this started in the health sciences building and he had an exacto knife, which is similar to what i have right here. it is almost -- it is razor
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sharp, very, very, very pointed, so we don't know if it was an exacto knife, don't know if it was some other kind of edged weapon, but something that robert rasa says were lacerations to these people who were the most seriously injured. >> want to pick up more on the weapon and what we're hearing from other students, our affiliates are on that campus, trying to talk to people, trying to see what they saw, what they heard. let me play some sound. this is from some of the affiliates, from people there on campus at lone star college. >> started -- it was just really scary after hearing about it, you know. i didn't know anything like that could happen here. it was scary. >> is it one of those things that you can't really control, but you just -- you don't think of it, but when it happens, it is like a shock to you? >> yeah, it is definitely a shock. i mean, here is somebody leaning -- yeah, it is a shock. >> when the shooting happened at the other campus, a couple of months back, did it ever cross
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your mind that something similar could happen here? >> yes, it did. it sure did. but i wasn't too worried about it because it seemed so far away from us. and here, i mean, it is a nice campus, i mean, there isn't a lot of security. i don't see a lot of security. but it is just -- no, i didn't think that would happen here. >> what is your name? >> sherry. >> thank you for taking a moment for my. >> how frightening for a lot of students there, of course, in the middle of class, tuesday, late morning, early afternoon, in the houston, texas area, to be seeing and witnessing this, potentially from classroom to classroom, the stabbing that is happening. we don't know. s i asked, was this a student who is this one suspect who is detained, he said they're getting conflicting reports. so they cannot say for sure. we do know the sheriff and also the chancellor of the school will be speaking within the hour. maybe they will be able to provide a little more clarity on the situation. it is a fluid situation as we
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have been reporting. let me glance down. we're getting this information from these great houston, texas, affiliates. this is what ktrk is saying. a student at the school said he helped authorities take one person, this one person into custody. this is where the exacto knife comes into play. the suspect appeared to be a student, maybe hearing impaired, and armed with a knife similar to an exacto knife that may be used in animal dissections. the student goes on, says he saw the suspect dressed in black, emerge from the building at a run. he was chased, got tackled. reportedly the suspect says i give up, i give up. the student adds he saw several people bleeding including some victims with neck wounds and, of course, they then were tended to by folks like we talked to on the phone, fire and ems. mike, let me bring you into this. the other question is why, why would someone do this? and right now, as we're looking at these pictures and a lot of students, just imagine, standing
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around, wondering what is going on. they're all being talked to because it is the public information officer told us, this is still a crime scene. they're trying to figure out what they saw and why this happened. >> and they're going to be talking to everyone, brooke, to find out, do you know this person? where did this person come from? did this person say anything to you before, during, after this happened? how did this person get to the campus? did this person take a bus. did this person come there by car? and if that person did come there in a vehicle, they're going to go ahead and get a search warrant and search that vehicle to make sure there is nothing that could harm anyone else inside that vehicle and to try to find out a motive. why did this happen? you want to know the who, what, when, where, why, how, but how did this happen and why did it happen at this particular time? what drove this person to commit this particularan act? >> we know law enforcement is
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mosc scouring the whole campus. put yourself at lone star college, at the cyfair campus. what is the toughest part? >> if i'm the lead investigator, i want to know who is this person and why did this person do this stabbing? what happened in the last 24 -- usually something that happened in the last 24, 48 hours that would drive this person to go ahead and commit an act like this. you just don't -- one minute you're in a health sciences building, and then you lash out with a knife, with some kind of edged weapon, exacto knife, we don't know the exact weapon, but why? why did this person do this? there has to be a reason. and that's what they're trying to find out exactly what happened. >> as we mentioned, the sheriff and also the chancellor of lone star college will be speaking within the hour. we'll dip into that certainly and take that live and try to perhaps shed some light on the why. also breaking news out of wall street on this tuesday afternoon. more after this quick break. [ female announcer ] new york strips. sudden trips.
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welcome back to cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. two stories we're watching. this is lone star college in harris county, texas. this is northwest of houston, texas. this is the cyfair campus, reports according to folks we talked to on the phone from harris county, at least 14 people wounded, possibly all stab wounds here, from at least they're thinking one suspect, who is now detained, running, according to the public information officer, from classroom to classroom. we have a student who was in one of the classrooms just nearby, snapping photos of what was happening. it is chilling and we're going to talk to her here in just a moment from lone star college. but, first, want to take you to wall street. let me pivot for a moment. you can see the green up 92 points. look at that number. 14,706. we're just about an hour away from the closing bell. and alison kosik, bring me some good news. >> there is good news there on the board, up, up and away goes the dow.
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continues to break new records. you're seeing the dow trading at 14,706, well below the previous record high. there is news behind what is moving the dow higher, propelling it higher. china came out with an economic report showing inflation is tamer. europe -- the uk showed industrial production rose more than expected. the way the u.s. sees it, we know that europe has been in a recession. we know globally there has been a slowdown for the economy for the global economy. when you see the stronger reports come out of europe, come out of china, that in turn is good news for the u.s. interesting thing is, yesterday, actually, after the closing bell, the start of first quarter earnings season, the first big report out was from alcoa, aluminum maker alcoa, wasn't out there. it is interesting to see the dow hitting the new record highs. it is the trend of one analyst putting it this way, brooke, the economy, even though we had that lousy job report on friday of
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what analysts saying the economy is still moving in the right direction, just less speedily than we would like to see. >> less speedily, but moving up, up, up, where we like it. alison kosik, thank you. keep watching the numbers. we can come back and come visit you if it is looking better. we appreciate it. from wall street, i want to take you back, we have a student from the lone star college from the p cyfair campus on the phone with me. 14 people wounded in this multiple stabbing on campus. maya khalil is 19 years old, a freshman. maya, first, how are you? are you okay? >> i'm a little shaken up about what happened, but i'm okay now. i'm home and i'm good. >> you are home. you are good. can i ask you, how did you get off campus? was it a process? >> i was in class and students were talking about how somebody -- a lot of kids got stabbed. and we got out of the classroom and everybody was out, like,
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right in front of my classroom, like bleeding on the neck and the ears. and this girl, it seemed like she was bleeding like close to her mouth. it was really scary. >> of course it was scary. we're looking at some pictures, i think, that you snapped. it looked like some law enforcement, maybe paramedics. can you walk me through what we're looking at? >> yeah, the girl -- that girl right there is the one i -- the one that i think got stabbed near her mouth. she was covering up her mouth the whole time. and the other girl laying on the floor, she was stabbed, like, in the neck. she had blood on her phone, on her -- around her chest and neck area. it wasn't a lot, but there was some blood. and there was people saying that the guy that stabbed those students was deaf. so i heard that from a few students. >> that was -- we were hearing that from ktrk, that they
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were -- there were reports that this student was hearing impaired. cnn has not been able to confirm that. we talked to the public information officer and he hasn't been able to confirm if the suspect was even a student. so we just want to be very careful and very clear here. but let me ask you this, maya, where were you when this was all happening? were you in this classroom? were you nearby? clearly you were nearby. >> yeah, i was right there taking the pictures. i was in class and then when everybody was talking about it, we all got out of class to go see what happened. and it was right in front of us, right when we left class. >> what building is this? is this the health sciences building? >> yeah. this is the health science building. >> so what kind of classes? what kind of classes were happening when this was going on? do you know what was being taught, was it science, a dissection class? >> the class that i was -- i was in, like, the computer lab
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downstairs registering for classes for next year. i don't know. there is all kinds of classes in that building. >> did you have a question, mike? >> this was the health sciences building. and, maya, how long before -- how long was it after all this started happening that ems and police were able to get to the victims? >> as soon as we got out of class, there was police officers and the ambulance there. so i think, like, five minutes. that's what i think. >> what, maya, i'll let you go soon, but what were people saying as you're taking these pictures, i know this is incredibly frightening for you, for anyone, whether you're 19 or much older, what were you hearing? >> i wasn't really hearing much. after a while, the police officer was telling us to step back and to return to class. and when we got out of class, we
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found out that we weren't even allowed to leave campus -- >> because of the lockdown. because of the lockdown. >> yeah, but the people that were stabbed weren't crying or anything. they were just very calm. and they were very scared. from the look on their face, they were very scared, but -- and very shooken. >> was it just on that one floor where we're seeing the pictures taken, or were there other floors where there were victims that had been cut or had been stabbed? >> i'm not 100% sure, but what i think is -- that's the only building where this stabbing took place. >> okay. and can you just describe for me what kind of college is lone star college? what is a typical day like for you? >> i go to class and then i leave. i really like lone star. i'm surprised that -- >> i think we're losing you. i'm just going to let you go.
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thank you so much, maya khalil, 19 years of age. she said very shaken and understandably so here, snapping pictures of classmates bleeding, covered in blood, as she was describing after being stabbed here. we cannot confirm who this one suspect is in custody. we're waiting for the sheriff, we're waiting for the chancellor of this school to come out and speak, within hopefully the next hour or so. but -- >> you know, brooke, you go to school and you don't think about these things happening. >> it shouldn't happen. >> it shouldn't happen, on any kind of campus, whether a grade school, a college campus, but they do. and, you know, i'm sure after the last incident that lone star college took a look at security, but when you have, again, we talked about this before, when you have a sprawling campus, an open campus like this, sometimes people who are students it come in there and do acts like this. we don't know if this person, again, is a student or if it was an outsider that came on to campus.
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>> mm-hmm. we're just hearing, we just talked to a student and now we'll be talking to a professor at the top of the hour. so hopefully this professor can shed a little light on what happened. what he or she saw and what kind of school this is. i remember talking to ed lavandera, we were talking about this college in the end of january, when he was there on the scene after the shooting had happened on a different college campus. but, you know, certainly, as you point out, they would take a good long look at school security. but, again, this is what we're hearing according to reports, this little thing, shouldn't say little thing, can exact a lot of damage. this is an exacto knife. according to our affiliate, this is possibly one if not the weapon that was used. but we do not know for sure what the weapon is. we have talked to harris county sheriff's department, they're not saying for sure. they're stopping a lot of these students and asking them the obvious questions, fill in the blanks as far as what happened, what weapon was used, was it this one individual, was this person a student, was this person hearing impaired as we're
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hearing, dressed in black, tackled and arrested. >> especially early on in the investigation. you want to find out and me, you asked me if i was an investigator, i want to know who, i want to know why. who was this person? did this person live alone did this person live with someone else? what drove this person do that this afternoon there at lone star college campus, cyfair. and was this exacto knife there at the health sciences building? what happened inside that building that drove him to go out and stab and to slash some of the students that we heard, you know, maya, one woman, a student, slashed around her mouth, another slashed on the neck. we heard from robert rasa that a lost the serious injuries were lacerations. and, again, this little -- it may look little, but it can be very, very lethal if you start slashing people around their neck, around their face, around -- anywhere on their body. but, still -- >> here we are talking about the school and several other schools in recent months, you know, with gun violence. here we have an exacto knife and
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14 -- at least 14 people wounded, four of them according to that pio with the fire department saying they were taken -- airlifted to the hospital, which tells us they are -- there are serious injuries. >> two others taken by ground to a level one trauma center and others taken by ground. two others that are serious enough to go to the level one trauma center. >> we'll continue to follow this story here out of lone star college. let's get a quick break in. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees.
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international incident. you have fugitive father, joshua hakken, his wife and these two young sons he allegedly kidnaps are now in cuba. patrick took video of the sailboat. here it is, called the salty, that this family used to reach cuba. you can see -- you see the little guy in the red shirt there, the middle of the screen, that could be 4-year-old cole, maybe 2-year-old chase, just walking around the deck. hillsborough county, florida, investigators, say their father lost permanent custody of the two boys on tuesday, kidnapped them from their grandmother, tied her up, and then headed out on the boat. detectives think his wife sharyn is there helping her husband. we have patrick ottoman live now in havana.
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how did you find this family? >> reporter: we had a little bit of a pause between our live shots, so just see what we can find and it is a tall order. this is a big country. but one of the places i thought they might come is this hemingway marina, named for ernest hemingway, drove up and down the marina, and the last boat slip, that's where this tiny really too small boat was. small because it is really very rough off the coast of havana. and the boat looked banged up. i got there and sure enough it is the salty. it looked like the boat that we have seen in some of the police photographs and there on the deck was a young boy playing and then i saw the huge guy walking across, just throwing some trash out in a nearby dumpster and i said are you josh hakken. he said, yeah, who are you and i knew i had the right people, brooke. >> so he said, yes, who are you? and you keep talking to him. i imagine he didn't want to talk
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to you. tell me what cuban authorities are doing at this point about this family, patrick. >> reporter: you know, it is so interesting, usually you hear very rarely that cuban authorities say anything good about the u.s. and vice versa. but it seems like u.s. and cuban diplomats, government officials, are working on finding a solution. both sides have told sources from both sides told us they're very concerned with the well-being of the children. they realize these are probably not fit parents if you believe the allegations against them. they're trying to find a way to make sure these children are safe and see how they move forward. lots of strucks s safe and see how they move forward. lots of struck s of instruction today. >> patrick oppmann finding this family. live for us in cuba right now. a quick break. we'll be back on breaking news at the top of the hour momentarily on the horrendous story this afternoon, unfolding, northwest of houston, texas, the lone star college.
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top of the hour here. i'm brooke baldwin. if you are just tuning in, we have been watching this breaking story unfolding on the campus of lone star college. this is northwest of houston, texas. this is the cyfair campus. and if lone star college sounds familiar, it should. it was just the end of january when we were reporting on a similar breaking story involving guns on one of the campus of lone star college, involving students there. today, we're reporting on stabbings, on stabbings in the cyfair campus. talking to public information officer with the harris county sheriff department, just a few minutes ago, he confirmed to me that at least 14 people have been wounded, in stabbings. possibly as this suspect has been running from classroom to classroom. the news at this moment is that this suspect has been detained. he was tackled according to police. and arrested. though make no mistake, this
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campus is still considered a crime scene. this is a sprawling campus here, as i said, northwest of houston, texas. and they are going through this -- these law enforcement with a fine toothed comb, just to make sure no one else is involved in these stabbings. we don't know if, in fact, this suspect who is in custody is a student. we don't know if, in fact, the weapon used was this exacto knife that we're hearing from reports from our houston affiliate ktrk. we'll get to all of that here and we'll talk to a professor in a matter of moments there on campus, but, first, want you to listen to something. listen to the public information officer from harris county, speaking on campus, to reporters, minutes ago. >> as far as we know he's the only suspect at this point. if anything changes, i will bring you up to date on that. as of right now, we have one suspect. >> motive? >> i can't tell you anything to confirm that right now. but this is what we have. we have the suspect. the situation has been detained. the school is on lockdown.
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once that has been done, and we have gone through and the investigation continues, i will be able to give you more information. the chancellor of the college and sheriff garcia will be giving an official statement here within the hour or so. bear with us. it is a fluid scene. as soon as i can get everything i can, i will bring it out to you and we'll get it all covered. i can't confirm the weapon as of right now. some reports that a pencil, some reports a knife. until we actually find the weapon, then i'll be able to confirm what it was. >> a motive. >> no motive as of right now. students were leaving from class and going to class. and it was attack at random. went from building to building. initial reports we had two suspects, but i believe now it was the same person running from building to building. no second suspect at this time. >> how long is the lockdown going to continue? >> until the college is on lockdown until our investigation is concluded.
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>> was the student at the college? >> i can't confirm that right now. our first initial report was that this individual was wrestled to the ground by a student. lone star college police came and detained him and arrested him at that point. >> all of the victims were students, right? >> i can't confirm as far as -- the extent of the injuries don't have. i don't know where the whereabouts are. maybe ems can give you more on that. the four that were life flighted, their injuries were serious enough to be life flighted. >> one suspect only right now? >> only one suspect in custody right now. >> let me clarify here, that public information officer was asked about injuries. i talked to someone on the phone a moment ago, connected to all of this, who confirmed to me that 15 people have been treated. we know that number, 15, 12
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taken to the hospital, four as you just heard life flighted, so that tells us serious injuries, talking to public information officer with the fire department on the ground, describing some of the serious wounds, lacerations, cuts, gashes on some of these people. i want to bring in a teacher there at lone star college, she is mariana spielland. are you with me? >> yes, i am. >> tell me where you are and how you are. >> i'm okay. a little shook up right now. standing in the parking lot, waiting to leave, traffic stopped moving and there is a lot of news crews and a lot of cops and just a lot of people trying to get out of here. we're allowed to leave now. there is no classes for the rest of the day. >> you are allowed to leave. that is new. no longer fully on lockdown. take me back, mariana, what it you see what do you know? >> well,notified by
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a friend watching the news. i was in the work room, so i wasn't in class. i logged into the news and got an e-mail from the school officials saying that the school was on lockdown. and i saw outside the window, i saw cops running around, and i saw students running, and i realized something was going on. and it was scary. so, yeah, i was just waiting for news and after a while, one of the professors came and herded everyone into a lockdown faculty room, which some students happened to be in the hallway. and other students were locked into their classrooms with their professors. >> so at one point, you with other teachers and professes and students were locked into a classroom. how fearful were you in that moment? >> pardon me? >> how fearful were you in that moment when here you are, you don't fully know what is
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happening, you're locked into this room? >> it was a little bit scary. all i could i hthink was at lea the doors are locked and you needed to be a faculty member to have a key. at that point, we heard the person, maybe a second person, and running from building to building. so it was impossible to know. and it was, frankly, scary. >> how was the communication from this school, as you were trying to grasp at information and understand what was happening, because all of us, i'm very mindful, it was a couple of months ago when it was a different campus, but a shooting happened at a different lone star college campus. how did the school communicate with you? >> well, they sent out an e-mail when they had some information to report. they sent out an e-mail to everybody. and they also put it on the tv, in the hallway. it said alert, campus is on lockdown. and when you login to any
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computer, you would see on the first page, you saw a big message, a big alert. i didn't get anything on my cell phone. i think they have a system for that, but i think you may have to be subscribed. i'm not sure. >> and, i'm sure you remember those shootings that happened that rocked the -- another campus back in the end of january. did anything happen in the wake of that as far as security, beefing up security on these different campuses? what did the college communicate to all of you as professors and teachers in the case of something like this? >> well, i am not there full time. i'm an adjunct, so i'm part time. i'm probably not the best person to answer that. they do send out the e-mail messages when they have any information. but, of course, you had to be logged into your e-mail to get those. but they did put it on the tv
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screen, they have a lot of monitors around in the hallways and they did put it up fairly quickly on those. >> and finally, mariana, did you see with your own eyes any of these presumably students who were stabbed? we were talking to a 19-year-old freshman a moment ago and she had taken pictures and she was describing just the blood over these students' faces and encasing their phones, down their arms. did you see any of that? >> i did not see any of that. i just heard kind of from another faculty member that some students had reported to her what they thought was somebody vomiting and they had been drinking too much red kool-aid because it was all red and all over the staircase. that turns out to be blood. but i didn't see anything first hand. i saw the crime tape around the building where it happened because i could see it from the building i was in. >> okay. mariana sviland at lone star college here. mariana, shaken, but okay.
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mariana, thank you for calling in and taking the time to speak with cnn. we appreciate it. and mike brooks, let me bring you in, as we have been talking for the better part of the last hour, watching what has been unfolding here on this campus. i just can't imagine talking about a 19-year-old a moment ago, we'll play the sound here in a moment, but just seeing these kids, college students, bloodied, hearing the professor thinking it was kool-aid and then we have the weapon. so we do not know yet what kind of weapon was used, but according to one of our houston affiliates ktrk, they are saying -- they were hearing that it could be an exacto knife. like a knife you use to dissect -- this is the health sciences building. >> to hear from robert rasa saying that most of the serious wounds, most of the cuts they were treating and transported people for were for lacerations. and it is -- here, this is an exacto knife. very, very sharp, almost like
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a -- basically like a razor that you can use for dissecting, you put it together, health science building, maybe some kind of dissecting lab, going on there, classes. and very, very sharp. so, you know, you can use this to stab and also to slash and that's why you would have those serious stab wounds and some of those deep lacerations with a -- basically a razor. some people may call it a box cutter. an exacto knife like this. >> here we are talking about guns and gun violence on campus and now talking about knives and exacto knives. we will be hearing, let me be clear, we'll be hearing both from the sheriff, from harris county and we will be hearing from the chancellor of lone star college in about five minutes from now. so they may be able to fill in some of the gaps and shed some light as to who this one suspect is in custody, if this person is a student and what kind of weapon is used because we're certainly not going to sit here and guess. we're going based upon reporting from houston. i mentioned a moment ago, we talked to the student, a
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19-year-old maya khalil, in a classroom next door to some of this melee when it happened, the stabbing. and she took some pictures. let me replay my conversation with maya. >> i'm a little shooken up about what happened. but i'm okay now. i'm at home and i'm good. >> you are home. you are good. can i ask you how did you get off campus? was it a process? >> well, i was in class and students were talking about how somebody -- a lot of kids got stabbed. and we got out of the classroom and everybody was out in front of my classroom, like bleeding on the neck and on the ears. and this girl, it seemed like she was bleeding, like, close to her mouth. it was really scary. and -- >> of course it was scary. we're looking at some of the pictures, i think, that you snapped. it looks like some law enforcement, maybe paramedics. can you walk me through what we're looking at? >> yeah. the girl right -- yeah, this girl right there is the one that
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i -- the one that i think got stabbed near her mouth. she was covering up her mouth the whole time. and the other girl laying on the floor, she was stabbed, like, in the neck. she had blood on her phone, on her -- around her chest and neck area. it wasn't a lot of blood, but there was some blood. and there was people saying that the guy that stabbed those students was deaf. so i heard that from a few students. >> we were hearing that from ktrk saying that they were -- there were reports that this student was hearing impaired, though cnn has not been able to confirm that. we talked to the public information officer and he hasn't been able to confirm if the suspect was even a student. so we want to be very careful and very clear here. but let me ask you this, maya, where were you when this was all happening? were you in this classroom, were you nearby? clearly you were nearby. >> yeah.
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i was right there taking the pictures. i was in class, and then when everybody was talking about it, we all got out of class to go see what happened. and it was right in front of us, right when we left class. >> what building is this? is this the health sciences building? >> yeah. this is the health science building. >> so what kind -- what kind of classes? what kind of classes were happening when this was going on? do you know what was being taught? was it science? was it a dissection class? >> the class i was -- i was in, like, the computer lab downstairs, registering for classes for next year. i don't know. there is all kinds of classes in that building. >> did you have a question for her, mike? >> no, that's what i was wondering. this is the health sciences building. and, maya, how long before -- how long was it after all this started happening that ems and police were able to get to the victim? >> as soon as we got out of class, there was police officers
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and the ambulance out there. so i think, like, five minutes. that's what i think. >> wow. >> what, maya, i want to let you go soon, but what were people saying as you're taking the pictures? i know this is incredibly frightening for you, for anyone, whether you're 19 or much older, what were you hearing? >> i wasn't really hearing much. after a while the police officer was telling us to step back and to return to class. and when we got out of class, we found out that we weren't even allowed to leave campus. >> because of the lockdown. because of the lockdown. >> yeah. but the people that were stabbed weren't crying or anything. they were just very calm and -- they were very scared. from the look on their face, they were very scared. but and very shooken. >> maya, was it just on that one floor where we're seeing the
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pictures taken? or were there other floors where there were victims that had been cut or had been stabbed? >> i'm not 100% sure. but what i think is -- that's the only building where the stabbing took place. >> that was 19-year-old maya khalil, safe and sound in her own home, albeit quite shaken after what she saw today on her own college campus. we have to take a quick break. back in 90 seconds. we'll get you more from what has been unfolding from this campus northwest of houston texas. we're waiting for the vice chancellor of lone star college and the sheriff out of harris county to step up to the microphones and speak. suddenly, she does something unexpected
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garcia. >> good afternoon. i am joined by senior vice chancellor and chief operating officer dr. rand key of the lone star college system. and he'll be also providing important details to today's incident. let me also say that i have with me the police chief of the lone star community -- of the lone star college police department who is here with his personnel, and his assistant chief as well. i have the major, the patrol major, steven marino, who is also a part of the response to the incident today. and then we also have lieutenant ralph nelson, who is leading the investigation into the incident -- today's incident. with the harris county sheriff's office. to that end, let me say that at 11:12 a.m., we received a call
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at our 911 call center. the call was described as male on the loose, stabbing people. white male, black hat, black and white shirt. the call was received and dispatch shortly thereafter. we had five units, four deputies, one sergeant respond to the scene. along with obviously being the first responder on the scene was the lone star college police department. we were also supported by cyfair volunteer fire department, cyfair ems. we were also supported by the department of public safety. texas rangers. as well as dps air unit as well
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as houston police department air units. what we know at this point is that we have four victims that we know of, 14, my apologies. 14. 14. 1-4. 14 victims that we know of. of the 14, two have refused treatment. of the 12, we do know that some have been transported to two different hospitals. cyfair hospital as well as memorial herman. we do know that of those at the hospital, two are in critical condition. and four are in fair condition. as the victims were being taken to the appropriate hospitals,
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four were life flighted at the early stages of this investigation. eight were transported via some form of ground transportation, whether ambulance or maybe personal vehicles. we don't know exactly on all eight. this is a current and ongoing, active investigation. buildings are still being searched to confirm details that we have. evidence, video evidence has been reviewed. and it provides us an indication that we have -- that we can confirm at least one and only one suspect in this case. a suspect has been taken into custody, a white male, that we
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believe is approximately 21 years of age. and currently enrolled at lone star college system. we have recovered other evidence that is still currently being processed. the victims appear to be and received various injuries. we do not know exactly what type of weapon was used other than to say that it is at this point an unknown instrument, that we don't know whether a knife or some other type of instrument. so we don't know that yet. but we do know -- we do have some evidence that is being processed, investigation is ongoing, suspect is in custody, and -- >> can you say if you found any type of weapon? >> well, describe what a weapon can be. so to that point --
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>> a firearm. >> no firearm. so that end, the investigation is still ongoing. we will not release any more details in regards to evidence that we have, that we believe we have acquired until it is all processed. until we can place that. now, let me ask dr. key, our partner in this incident, to provide some remarks. >> sheriff, do you have a motive in this? >> dr. key? >> good afternoon, i am rand key with the lone star college system. and let me first express our sincere concern about the students that were injured today, our thoughts are obviously with them and their families at this point and time. this morning when the episode did occur, we immediately sent out an alert to shelter in place and lockdown. that immediately took place. during that time, the buildings were monitored, and once it was determined that they were safe, and secure, then a very orderly evacuation of the campus did
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commence. and in fact that's almost concluded as you can see from the parking lot. the college is closed for the remainder of today. we are scheduled to resume normal operations tomorrow. as sheriff garcia stated, i too would like to thank those other responders that came, the texas rangers, harris county sheriff department and others who assisted in this matter. although our president, dr. audre levy was not on campus today, she was in constant communication with our command center and was right there with us the whole time. but, again, she was off campus. we'll continue to monitor the situation as the sheriff stated, it is an ongoing investigation. so we are somewhat limited in what we can say. thank you. >> can you put a timeline on the alerts? >> let me ask the help of the media, one important point. the school is receiving an inordinate number of calls from concerned family members as you would expect. we are asking your help to
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please communicate to students who were on campus, who have been evacuated, as dr. key mentioned, to please contact their family members and let them know they're okay. we're talking about 14 folks that are at the hospital, being treated or -- 12, and so we need the media to communicate and ask any student who was on campus to please contact their family members and let them know they're okay. >> sheriff, there is a discrepancy in the numbers of injured. cyfair press conference a little while ago said 15, three people refusing to be transported. you're saying 14. are we sure the 14 is correct? >> well, we are, again -- we just left the briefing. we confirmed the numbers as we have them. so i'm sharing with you, 14, with two that have refused treatment. >> do you have a motive in this? do you know why anyone -- >> it is an ongoing investigation. we don't know anything else.
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>> the injuries, are we don't know how to describe them other than they're injuries. some injuries are critical to fair conditions at the hospital. so we will have more details as we get information from the medical staff. look, it is an ongoing investigation. work with me on that. excuse me? >> lacerations or -- >> were they slashed or punctured? >> we don't have those details yet. okay. the suspect is in custody. whether the suspect was injured, we don't have any details. let me just say this about that question, though. one -- some of the details in the calls did indicate that students or faculty were actively responding to work to subdue this individual. so we're proud of those folks.
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but we're glad no one else is injured any more severely than they are. again, he's in custody, an active investigation -- not by his own choice. >> sheriff, the numbers of people that came out tell us a lot of the victims were cut on their necks and faces. >> they may very have been. we have selective evident and we're holding on to that until we have effectively processed all evidence collected. >> so just randomly going around stabbing people from what you've been able to ascertain. >> we're going off what the call slip said. man on the loose stabbing people. that's what we got to work with. >> another incident at lone star college. >> look. it is not an indication other than some people will do some things that catches all by surprise. but what is imperative to understand is that lone star college police department was first on the scene. the harris county sheriff's
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office was here soon thereafter with incredible support from dps, cyfair volunteer fire department, cyfair ems, and many, many, many students are safe. [ inaudible ] >> where on campus was -- >> it is a fluid scene. we're trying to -- the campuses or the buildings have different names, so we're just trying to figure all that out. still very fluid at this point. >> -- he was chased down. >> he was taken into custody. that's all i can give you at this point. let me -- if you will, i will provide remarks in spanish. >> how many students? >> we're not releasing his name yet. >> can youi give us a time frim when t frame when the first alert went out and texts and e-mails? >> we used our alert system -- sure, let me ask jerome powell
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to address that on the timing of when our alerts went out. >> i'm sorry. i'll tell you, the first alert went out within minutes, received by our dispatch around 11:13. and very shortly thereafter the first alert went out for the shelter and lock in place. >> do you know -- when you say within minutes. >> i'm not familiar with all the immediate details, no, i'm not. >> does somebody have the details. >> we will be able to get those at a later time. >> a series of attacks, where did it again? outside the health sciences building? >> still under investigation at this point. can't comment on that. >> one of the ems told us it went from outside through one building and into another. does that sound correct? >> again, it is an ongoing investigation. i cannot confirm or -- those type of comments. >> can anybody tell us how big the crime scene is and where it is? >> the -- technically the campus
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is the crime scene. we're searching all the build zblgz he didn ings. >> he didn't stab people all over the campus. >> it is a fluid investigation. you're going to challenge me if i give you the details now. let us get the investigation completed, get the facts straight and we'll share that at a later time. >> how many students were in the -- >> approximately 6,000 or 7,000 on campus at any given day. >> are all the victims students? >> i don't think we have clear confirmation on that. all we know is we have a total of 12 victims receiving treatment. >> we will now do sound bites in spanish. again, please remember there is a lot of information we cannot release because this is an active and ongoing investigation. so we will now speak in spanish. >> let's pull away. you've been listening to, this is lone star college, you heard from the sheriff there, adrian
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garcia. a couple of points wasn't to highlight to you, that was new to me, the number one point being that this sole suspect who is now in custody, is, in fact, enrolled at lone star college. is a student. he is 21 years of age. that was new. number two, we're hearing all the numbers, as far as injured, the number we heard from the sheriff was 14. of the 14, 12 in the hospital getting treated. two that were looked at on the scene and said, thanks, but no thanks, don't need to go to the hospital. of the 12 in the hospital, two are in critical condition. four are in fair condition. and mike brooks, a couple of points i heard that my ears perked and i wanted to ask you, when they talk about how their buildings are still being searched and the buzzword i heard was the video. that tells me there are surveillance cameras around this building, that can help them figure out -- >> that will help them -- the
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other investigation, where the shooting was, some video surveillance that helped them identify who the shooter or shooters were and what happened. same thing in this particular case at the cyfair campus, brooke. it was video surveillance, available to them, to say this was the this one person, you know, they know where this person may have come from, did this person drive a car there, that wasn't a question asked, but as an investigator, i'm thinking, well, they're saying the campus is a crime scene. so maybe they're processing a car. pure speculation on my part. but otherwise they would say, no we just have the crime scene here in the particular building. >> okay. what about the weapon? clearly you can hear the reporters asking and the phrase they used, it is an unknown instrument. >> right. he says a knife or something else. so, you know, we heard from one person there, one witness, that was -- they called it an exacto knife. is it this kind of knife? some people may call it a scalpel. some people may call it an exacto knife. i think they want to make sure
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they have the proper terminology for this particular edged weapon before they come out publicly and say, this was an exacto knife, no, a box cutter, no it was a scalpel. they want to make sure they have the terminology right before -- because there is going to be a prosecution, most likely, after this. they want to make sure they have crossed all their tchbs and dot all their is. >> we heard students and faculty jumped on this student, were able to subdue this student so police could put cuffs on him. >> actively worked to subdue the individual. they jumped on him and he was very surprised, and they did get him and, again, kudos to those students and faculty who put their life on the line to subdue this guy. >> the number we have, 14 victims here in this stabbing situation that for all intents and purposes is at least contained. though we're hearing the campus is a crime scene, that the one and only suspect is now in custody and that is -- it has been what is going on this
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just briefly, an update on the breaking story at lone star college in texas here, harris county, texas. we learned this suspect who is now detained is a 21-year-old male, enrolled at the college. he is a student. he is detained. sounds like he was taken down by students and faculty according to the sheriff we heard from. the number is 14 we have at the moment. 14 people wounded, stab wounds. 12 of whom being treated at hospitals at the moment. as soon as we get more updates, we'll pass them on to you. want to move along to washington, moments ago, vice president joe biden let loose on senate republicans, 14 in particular, take a look at them, for threatening to launch a filibuster to prevent a debate on gun legislation. so let me play this for you. you'll see the vice president talking just within the past
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hour. >> it is almost mind boggling. i served in the senate for 36 years. and you got 13 senators including the minority leader saying, i will filibuster proceeding on dealing with this national tragedy. wouldn't proceed. now, maybe between now and the time it gets to the floor they will, as my mother would say, they will have seen the light. maybe that will change. what an embarrassing thing to say. >> the white house is pulling out all the stops on this. remember, after newtown, the president said he would do just that. and last night, he gave a list on board air force one to about a dozen families of the 26 newtown slaying victims. he flew them from hartford, to washington, and today they have
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begun to lobby members of congress. video sent in an hour or so ago. one of the newtown parent, after meeting with connecticut's richard blumenthal. gloria borger is our chief political analyst, and, gloria, this isn't the first time the president obama seemed to have the public behind him. here he is running head first into congressional republicans. we have seen this movie before. >> yes, we have. and what he's doing, brooke, what you saw the vice president doing is really taking this issue of guns to the american public. they know that overall at least nine out of ten americans believe that you should have some kind of expanded background check on guns. so they believe the public is with them and what they're trying to do is point out what they consider to be and is an apparent discan connect between what lots of voters want and what some republicans say is really overreach, and affects
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the second amendment. and leads to the taking away of your guns. and, you know, you just saw a really impassioned joe biden, who has been working on this issue nonstop. you saw the president yesterday, so, you know, this is really very much -- not like immigration reform or the budget, this is an issue that they believe they can take to the public and at least try to get the public behind them on this, to get a little bit of what they want. >> let's talk about the republicans here, because we have these 14 republicans, the u.s. senate, 14, who say they will refuse to allow a debate on the new gun restrictions. they include senate republican leader mitch mcconnell, i know for your column, gloria, you talked to republican pollster who said of this filibuster, let me quote you, it won't do us a lot of good, we will look like the party that is picking extremist positions. is there a price for republicans in this in terms of launching a
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filibuster? given the fact that newtown was just in december? >> well, there are two ways to look at it. first of all, we're not sure that even if some of those members want to, that they would actually succeed this is a very fluid situation right now, brooke. but on the one hand, that republican pollster told me this is terrible for us. we are already a party labeled as inflexible, as extremist, this would not help us with women voters at all, in particular. for the party brand. so set the party brand aside, the second thing, though, you talk to some republicans who are in favor of a filibuster, in the back of their minds, if you look at republican senators who are actually up for re-election, most all of them are in states that mitt romney won. so a vote against gun control is not exactly going to hurt them, in fact, it could help them. that's a very short term view,
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because the long-term view of the republican party, according to this pollster, is ought to try and expand your base and not just play to a narrow base, if you want to try to win a presidential campaign at some point. >> we saw that republican party autopsy not too long ago. at the same time, it is interesting the point you're making about the states. we'll see. gloria borger, thank you very much. >> sure. >> gloria's column cnn.com/opinion. and from gloria to dana. dana bash, our chief congressional correspondent. what are you hearing about the talks, maybe the compromise talks in the senate? >> well, they're still ongoing. joe manchin, the democrat who is working with the republican pat toomey, both of whom have very good ratings with the nra, but both self-described pro gun politicians, they are going to at least, joe manchin, is going to have a report, we hope it will be public, at least he'll give it to his leader, the democratic leader, at 5:00 eastern. so in a little more than an
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hour, an update on how that is going. in the meantime, the democratic leader, harry reid, did schedule a vote, which will take place on thursday. this is a vote just to bring up any kind of gun legislation. just to bring it up. our impression, ted barrett, and diedra walsh, it looks like it is likely that he'll get the 06 votes, but definitely not a sure thing. we don't actually have them counted right now. by then, the hope is from their perspective, they get it or a compromise that would make 60 votes moot. >> you have to vote just to debate. and then it can continue on potentially for a real -- >> in this case because there was a filibuster you were talking about, yes. >> you spent some time, dana bash, with two of the leading proponents of gun legislation. tell me about that conversation. >> it was really fascinating. i spent two days late last week with gabby giffords, the former congresswoman, and her husband, mark kelly. she, of course, had to leave, resign her seat because of her
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injuries after she was shot while doing her job. she has -- they both have become pretty big advocates for curbing -- putting in place new gun restrictions. and it was most fascinating to spend time with them because they still are active gun enthusiasts. in fact, watch what happened when i went to gabby giffords' mother's house, what mark kelly was doing. >> target practice is still a form of entertainment at giffords' mother's house. deep in the arizona desert. >> he's aiming for my pot. >> reporter: mark kelly using planting pots and water bottles as targets, while giffords watches from the patio with her mother, cheering him on. >> excellent. >> excellent. >> excellent! >> reporter: kelly isn't shooting with just any kind of gun. >> this is the same kind of gun gabby was shot with, a glock, a
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9 millimeter glock. in that case, it had a magazine that held 33 rounds. this, when it is full, olds 17. shot 33 rounds, every round hit somebody, we think. >> how long have you had this gun? >> well, i gave this to gabby as a gift. >> when? >> a number of years ago. she's a gun owner. she's from the west. >> reporter: still, we asked the question a lot of incredulous people seeing this scene would ask. >> really? this guy sort of still has -- he gets his kicks or recreation for him is shooting a gun after his wife was shot through the head? >> gabby used to like shooting a gun too occasionally. >> yes. >> brooke, obviously, part of the reason why we were allowed to shoot footage of them, or at least mark kelly during target practice, is a big part of their push here on capitol hill is that the credibility, they understand the gun culture, they still are involved with or he's still involved with guns.
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so that is the political reason why we were allowed to do that. but when it comes to this issue, there is no question that gabby giffords understands it, it is very hard, she herself was a conservative democrat who voted for issues regarding to guns, like she voted to reverse the ban on guns here in the district of columbia. those are some things i talked to her about and a whole lot of other things, especially how her recovery is going and it is pretty remarkable. >> even that clip, the visual that you provided us, we will be watching, dana bash. let's remind everyone, set your dvrs, her exclusive interview tonight with gabby giffords and mark kelly. dana, thank you. now a chilling warning from a top u.s. commander. he says north korea's actions are, and i'm quoting, a clear and direct threat to american security. this comes as the north tells others to get out, seek shelter, now. jake tapper joins me next. [ male announcer ] the 2013 chevy silverado 1500
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pacific saying this about the u.s. retaliation. >> do we have the capability to intercept a missile if the north koreans launch within the next several days? >> we do. >> would you recommend such action? >> if a missile was in defense of the home land, i would certainly recommend that action. >> commander locklear extending that same action if u.s. allies are threatened. jake tapper, let me bring you in, chief washington correspondent and anchor of "the lead." let me read my e-mail from barbara starr at the pentagon, obama administration calculates it is likely that north korea may fire mobile ballistic missiles at any time, based on the most recent u.s. intelligence showing it is likely that north koreans have completed a launch preparation. what do you make of that? >> that's the concern. and one of the theories is that
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he will do so on the anniversary of one of his relatives, the birth anniversary of one of his relatives. i think it is the 15th or the 16th when john kerry, the secretary of state, is scheduled to be in that the missile would go over japan. that's one scenario. there is also a concern that as in 2010 kim jong un as his father did three years ago might actually begin shelling or attacking south korean various else or south korean land. we'll be talking about this with the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, who has the latest information about north korea and he'll talk to us about his concerns and what is different about this set of provocations by north korea as opposed to previous years, because administration officials and others do think that this is different than what we've seen in the past. >> we'll look for the interview in your segment on north korea with congressman rogers and why this is different. jake tapper, thank you. we'll see you at the top of the hour. we will be right back with the
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star college in the greater houston, texas area. we heard from the sheriff within this last hour. the sheriff of harris county confirming that the one suspect they do have in custody and again they do believe it was one and only person here responsible for the stabbings on campus is a 21-year-old student, so that was new. that we learned a little while ago. 14 people injured. 12 of them were taken to hospitals. four of those 12 were life flighted with serious injuries. two of them are in critical condition. four are in fair condition. the big question is the why. the motive. this is so early in this investigation so they don't have any answers as far as the why. they are looking at surveillance video, so that can help them determine what exactly happened inside some of these classrooms where the stabbings occurred. and, also, the weapon. they're calling it an unknown instrument, but many of the students suffering lacerations and cuts to the face and the
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above 14,622. that was the last high. >> i think it is safe to say the dow is going to close at a new record high today around 14,674. some positive economic reports out of china and europe pretty much offset concerns about a weak corporate earnings season here in the u.s. which kicked off yesterday. so at least for stocks the way investors see it the path of least resistance continues to be to the upside. it has a lot to do with the fed giving momentum. the fed continues to buy up billions of dollars of treasury bonds every single month. not only does that obviously push down interest rates, makes borrowing more attractive to people, but also pushes investors to buy into the market instead of buying bonds so it creates that wealth effect we are seeing right on the big board here at the new york stock exchange. this is despite the fact we got that lousy jobs report on friday. >> right. >> there is though other data that shows, the u.s. economy is growing, but just at a slow pace. >> a lot of people are saying that's great wall street is doing great but on main street we certainly don't feel -- it
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