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brother. i asked him where he was from. >> he said he was from -- >> reporter: chechnya. russia. >> yes. so, after restwrestling practice told me to stop my car down there and walked down there. he pointed me. i asked him where he lived, he just pointed down there. i said oh, that's fine. >> down norfolk street? >> reporter: so, john, obviously, my follow-up question is he was so abusive to his friend, dzhokhar, how could he have done this just on monday? he had no idea. he kind of wondered about his relationship with his big brother. >> so many people are wondering that, brooke. we will continue our coverage of
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cnn and the boston bombing and the arrest right now. >> announcer: this is breaking news. [ cheers and applause [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: cheers for boston's finest friday night. a standing ovation for local and state and federal authorities this evening. just a few hours ago as this absolutely horrendous week that began with the boston marathon terror attacks that began monday afternoon. a collective sigh of relief among everyone here in boston. just hours ago, authorities captured the second of two suspects. hello, everyone.
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i'm brooke baldwin live here in copley square. >> i'm john boyle at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. we'd like to welcome the united states and around the world. tonight, the second suspected bomber did not come peacefully. early friday evening, gunfire suddenly erupted in watertown. he was apparently putting up a fight after finding himself surrounded by police. the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev had been killed in a shootout the night before. his older brother, the younger scenario, would be captured. injured, but alive. and this photo shows tsarnaev being transferred in a scene.
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we can see his head through the ambulance window. and we are told he is in a serious condition. the arrest was greeted with cheers by residents in watertown and elsewhere in the boston area. >> reporter: a lot of cheers tonight here despite the wet, rainy boston evening. people are thrilled this thing is finally over. i'll tell you, tonight's dramatic events, they followed a massive man hunt here in the boston area. dzhokhar tsarnaev was actually hulled out in this boat in the boston suburb called watertown. there is a picture. this is the 19-year-old suspect thchlt is the photo courtesy of
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cnn news. >> he was severely injured and, most likely, the shootout that occurred last night, also the injuries occurred in exchange with gunfire with police this afternoon. >> so there was an exchange of back and forth gunfire in both locations. is that correct? >> that's correct. that's what i've been told. you've got the boston police department, the massachusetts state police, and fbi agents surrounding the both. there was an exchange of gunfire and eventually, they came in, used flash bangs and was able to remove the suspect from the boat without any further injury. >> flash bans tried to disorient him. and with the arrest of dzhokhar,
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president obama saying this is an important chapter of the boston marathon attack. the president says federal authorities will try to get to the bottom of monday's attack. find out the big question and find out why? other individuals that could have been involved, we want to know about that and we want to know about these two suspected bombers. >> one thing we do know is whatever hateful agenda drove these men to such heinous effects could not, would not prevail. they've already failed. they failed because the people of boston refused to be intimidated. they feel as americans, we refused sto be terrorized. they failed because we will not waiver from the character and the compassion and the values that define us as a country.
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nor will we break the bonds that hold us together as americans. >> reporter: that was the president just speaking, john, a couple of hours ago. we have heard through the week that the governor, here, of the state of massachusetts, and also the mayor, mayor menino who we've seen videos wheeling around in a wheelchair. he's usually at the finish line. he had leg surgery earlier on. he has been ever-present despite his own injuries for the city of boston, john? >> we do know that four people did not survive this attack. the suspected bomber did not come in a big announcement. instead, it came on social media by twitter. boston police tweeted suspect in custody.
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officers sweeping the area. standby. and just moments after that, we got him. find out how they did get him. paul, just walk us through the dramatic events. this all seemed to happen so much faster than even the police had expected. >> well, you're right, john. it did take a sudden turn. the people were on pins and needles and the police were certainly on edge. you can see them going block-for-block. and then the people of watertown trapped in their homes. literally, blood on the streets. you could see people in their
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screened-in porches, even asking what can we do? what's going on? and then, all of the sudden, the chatter starts on the scanner. you can hear possibly something about the boat. a warning of cross fire. and then the next thing, then you see the mobilization. a bus-full of officers. people all rushing towards where they think the suspect is. it turns out he had been hiding earlier in a boat. so a little earlier in the evening, they used the flash bags to get him out of there. you get a sense that they very much want to capture him alive. why? because they're looking down the road to hopefully talk to this man and see, you know, why he
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and his brothers had concocted this scheme. >> and just to explain to our viewers, they make a flash and bang, they're very effective in a closed space like a boat. >> you can see the top there. his head is bowed. we know they've lost a lot of blood. is there any idea how long he spent inside that boat? no, that's going to be interesting. obviously, he ran away from the scene last night. his brother's blood, as we talked about literally in the street. it seems to be less than a mile away. he found refuge in that boat. how long he had been there. it's something the authorities are ofly going to ask. he could have been there, pretty
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much, all day and night. >> in so many words, and i'm just paraphrasing now, you're surrounding. give yourself up. you can hear a little bit of buzz about that. they were able to take him out of there: i should note when the ambulance went by, and we're not positive but all of them, they've been just absolutely on that razor's edge all day long. one even shouted good-bye explative. it's really into a long, arduous bid that they will never forget. >> do you get the feeling that police were surprised that he was actually taken alive.
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you could see officers sort of smiling ear-to-ear. they wouldn't say anything at first. it was a pretty clear indication when vehicles started leaving the perimeter that something good happened. and then, after a while, at one point, we even saw an officer high-fiving a crowd. >> what about the boat owners? dave han nerks n bury managed to raise the alarm. he probably has to be the luckiest guy in boston? >> i didn't hear you very quickly. i know you asked me about the boat owners? i think there's a tremendous sense of relief for not only the boat owners, but everyone else in that neighborhood that they
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obviously did not, you know shlgs run straight into an alleged, cold-blooded killer at this point. it's a sense of relief. >> okay. let's head back to brooke baldwin who is live for us in boston. >> okay, john, thank you. it is a rainy, chilly night here in boston. that's not stopping so many people who have been out and about. >> reporter: suddenly, tonight, just a couple hours ago, fear quickly morphed into relief.
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this younger brother, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. there also was plenty of appreciation for the s.w.a.t. team that helped in this evening's man hunt. >> reporter: in addition to people who live here in boston cheering on, the authorities saw the governor of massachusetts adding his things and gratitude. the governor declared it's a night where we are all going to rest easy. and i think a lot of people will get a good night's sleep. one officer told the crowd "if you want to thank us, just go home." he's just one of the officers who's been spending tireless days and nights here.
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police announced they got their man. it has been an absolutely terrifying week here for the people in boston. that fear is finally done. >> it was really this moment after the news came that police had captured the second suspect in the boston marathon bombing. the streets literally erupted in juplation. they were sitting on the stoop, they were jumping in the streets, waving american flags, chanting things like usa, usa. and they were say thg is boston. this is boston. you can hear the joy in their voice. some of them have missed class all week because of how close their university is to the crime scene. they told me that now they feel like they're safe. they can go back to class.
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they can rest again. and it wasn't just here in boston, it is across this country. it is around the world. we heard the story of a flight and the pilot announced that number 2 had been captured and the entire plane erupted in applause. but amidst all of this juplation, we have to remember that this is a city that is still reeling from such a tragedy. at this hour, we have 58 people recovering in the hospital. three of them are in critical condition. two of them are children. and, of course, you still have those four beautiful lives that were lost. the officer who was murdered last night, the 8-year-old beautiful boy. you have the girl, crystal campbell and the college student here studying at boston
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university. so something to keep in mind. the city still suffering such a tragedy and such a long way to go. back to you. >> reporter: just quickly, i've been checking my twitter. listen, it's not a party here in boston. but after five very long days, people are finally able to breathe a little easier tonight after the very harrowing week. and let's be clear, he's not too far from me in a boston hospital right now. >> he's also facing very long legal battles.
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continuing coverage of the boston arrest. it is 18 minutes past 2:00 eastern time. it did not take the fbi very long to update its wanted poster. the man had only been known as suspect fum ber 2. >> yeah, instead of wanted, you see this? the word wanted was quickly changed to capture. here now is just one of the brief glimpses that we got friday night of this suspected bomber. take a look at this photo taken by a reporter, gene macken. and you see from this window, of this ambulance, it is the head of the wounded 19-year-old dzhokhar sdar nigh ya. chris lawrence is standing by live at israel hospital.
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and that is where the suspected bomber has been taken. chris, what is his condition? is it still serious? >> still serious. that's the latest word. and we're told when this condition is updated, it will come from the f.b.i. again, when the police found him, he was covered in blood. and they think that his injuries came from that initial shootout. so the shootout and the altercation that happened friday morning when his brother was still alive, even though we don't know the extent to his injuries, if he was injured in that shootout, look at how injured his brother was.
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he also seemed to have some injuries. the younger brother's injuries not the same as that, but he is suffering from the same sort of wounds in that gunfight from police again, from early friday morning. we heard that he thought those injuries came from that gunfight. if that's true, he was on the run and wounded for up to 24 hours before he was bought here. >> chris, i was here and the security was tremendous. those who have been injured were at the hospital. i would imagine, suspect number 2, dzhokhar zarniya. >> definitely more than normal.
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in fact, you know, normally, when you come to the local hospitals here, there's always police officers, obviously, at the hospital. it's normally the boston, the city police. what we've been seeing around the area are state police officers. in fact, i would say the police presence here has toned down a bit from when we first got here on friday night. remember it's died out a bit, but we remember on the off side, a lot of offices who are posted outside. >> yeah, i would not be surpr e surprised. one of the area hospitals here in boston where this younger suspect is being treated.
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back over to you, john. >> once he is better, then, of course, all of this goes to the court system. that is just beginning. anderson cooper spoke with our legal analyst. >> first thing that will happen is the u.s. attorney's office will file a complaint. he will then be arraigned. in normal circumstances, someone arrested on a friday night would probably not be arraigned until monday morning, just because of the extraordinary circumstances here, he might be arraigned tomorrow. at the arraignment, duothings will happen. there will be a discussion on bail. he will not get out on bail, obviously. but they will set a preliminary
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hearing 30 days forward. what will happen is in those 30 days, and the next 30 days, he will be indicted from the national grand jury. that's when the case will really begin. but the next legal event will be an arraignment at any time when he's physically able to be arraigned. >> there's still much that the subjects need to know. there's a lot of unanswered questions, brooke. >> for more on the legal process, when it turned out to lou palumbo, and the golden globes joins us live from our loop. good to see you tonight.
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here we have this older kbroer dead, this younger brother in the hospital. what do you make of all of this? quite frankly, i'm not surprised. they have become so efficient in analyzing crime scenes and connecting dots and identifying individuals in a very rapid fashion that it's just consistent with their ability to resolve these problems. >> what we're trying to do is determine if these two young men had support. and there is some significance to that.
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>> lou, presumablpresumably, dzz is being treated. so many people think that he is alive because he will begin to answer many, many questions. walk me through the process of how investigators will go about him and the treasure-trove of evidence that they got out of this project earlier today. >> the first thing they'll have to do is recover to a condition where he can respond to them intelligently, number one. and then the next part of the process is simply to derive information that will give us answers to questions we're seeking like did he have support anywhere anywhere in the area of boston.
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they're just going to run through a whole series of questions that are going to give us a motive and the means by which they carried this out. i refer specifically to any type of support they receive. >> lou, this has all ended relatively well and relatively quickly. but given the fact that tamerlan was interviewed back in 2011, do you think something fell through the cracks here? >> i was afraid you were going to ask me that. obviously, i would say there's some legitimate cause for
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concern that was expressed to our government. whether or not we managed it properly is going to come under the microscope now. hindsight is a wonderful thing. we must say that for this point and time. apparently, not long after the bombing, the team suspect continued to tweet. >> that's right, tweeting multiple times, john. and coming up next, we'll tell you what his message is. [ male announcer ] you think you know me.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm brooke baldwin live in boston. to say that this week here in the boston area would be an understatement here, especially the last 24 hours. erin burnett has a look at how the dramatic events unfolded after the last day. >> shortly after 5:00 p.m. yesterday, fbi special agent in charge releases these images of the two men they believe are suspects behind the boston marathon bombings. hours later, a second photo is circulated on time.
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>> we must have heard about 60 gunshots. >> all residents need to remain in their home. >> we're on the air at 11:00 p.m., we learn a 26-year-old police officer from m.i.t. has been shot and killed. moments later, boston police, according to authorities, the carjacking suspects begin throwing suspect thing frs the car. at approximately 123 a.m., rez depts are jolted away as dozens of police exchange gunfire with the two suspects. a fierce fire fight exploded.
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suspect number 2 escapes on foot. by 3:45 in the morning, massachusetts state police warn residents stay in their homes. a little after 5:00 a.m., daybreak. the city of businesses ask to keep the doors closed. at 8:14, they identify the suspects as brothers. at 11:55 a.m., the two began to speak out. >> turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. >> at 1:26, boston police tweet that 60% of the search is done. at 3:42, investigators find a
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significant amount of explosi s explosives. people could, again, leave their homes even though the suspect remains at large. i just heard what sounded like multiple assault rifle shots to me. >> 8:15, p.m. a person is cornered on a boat in watertown. hundreds surround the second bomber. at 8:45, police in watertown massachusetts break out in tears, followed by crowds coming to the streets to celebrate. >> okay, more details now on what led up to that dramatic moment.
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i'm amazed at how close you got. explain how it all played out during a very short period of time? >> john, we were trying to get to the scene. we were on foot and we kind of sneaked around some back alleys and other places and got to about 200 yards of the boat from the backside of that house. you could see the boat clearly. those were the phrases that we heard frarly clearly from the distance where we were. we did not see or hear him. we had gotten there after the flash bags were produced.
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it was clearly the final sequence of negotiation before he finally surrendered. things had calmed down by then. >> what about the homeowner who noticed that dzhokhar was actually inside the boat. it was apparently someone walking with some blood on it. so most law enforcement people will tell you this is often how these things are solved. >> and when he was seen inside the boat, he was covered in blood.
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and there was some speculation about when he may have been wounded? >> yes, he was covered in blood. he had been wounded. they're not quite sure when he was wounded. this was at the final standoff period. but he was wounded. he was still able to engage the officers with internal fire. he and his brother were involved in that exchange, allegedly. he was clearly weakened. he was in serious trouble. >> you know, they might have been. they were preparing for this all
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day, john, as if he might have even had explosives on him. we all know the accounts by now. they had that exchange with police officers in the chase and in the standoff in water town. the brother may have had some explosives on his person when he was finally brought down. they were saying all day long that dzhokhar may have some explosives on him. that's why this entire region in watertown was locked down all day. >> live for us in watertown. details of that dramatic arrest.
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it was just fortuitous. that's when it all went down. thank goodness for that person who was astute and called police. we're also learning about both speaking out today. the suspect's father lives there and he believes his sons are innocent. >> someone framed them. i don't know who exactly did it. but someone did. being cowards, they shot the boys dead. there are cops like this. >> when you try calling the younger one, the phone is off?
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one of them is a great lawyer. those are my kids, you understand? i'm afraid for my other boy. maybe he will be shot dead, too. they will say, well, he had weapons. kids with weapons? you don't find weapons in a garbage dump. >>. >> you've been living there for a long time. have you ever had any kplants about the justice there? >> no, never. i didn't have any problems. >> the day before, you spoke to your elderson. son. what did he tell you? >> he said everything was okay. i even asked him how's dzhokhar? did you look at him?
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they let the kid graduate because a person in this life doesn't know they're working is working hard. that's why i'm always telling them study, study, study. >> this is it. so what explosion? i honestly can't imagine who would do this. whoever did it is a bastard. i have nothing more to say. how about that, that is the father, the mother. and she said neither of her sons ever talked about terrorism. john? >> let's find out more about the family. all the way back to the russian republic. >> they're trying to dig up more information about the family background. really important here.
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possible moment of what made these two young men carry out the forming of the boston marathon. >> well, certainly, what you just heard, the disbelief coming from their father is something you hear when you talk to neighbors, friends here, the woman who runs a small shop opposite the house, the house deserted. she describes good sons of good families. a father who renovated apartments around the area to make money. but, also, we've had an interesting visit to the school. it's in terms of what they know
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from that far ago. it also makes the two brothers came from kirg and then left to go to america. we don't know precisely when they all appeared in the united states. yiegts. about the case, that would have been a very volatile period in southern russia's history. lots of violence pushed over the borders.
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that did cause my police officers in that particular area. the russians in the past who were concerned about al-qaida links to extremists working in daeg. >> there is also truth that the older brother, by last year, was a man who was struggling with his finances. what can we read into that? is there anymore information about that group? >> what we heard from the
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shopkeeper, she says jeffrey saw him return from that particular period. she spoke of a month in summer when he was there. but, yes, you do point that out. it wouldn't have been a particularly cost ly problem. >> very quickly, nick, the state of the conflict in chechnya? >> there has been violence inside.
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in the past few years, they have ebbed slightly in the past. it's caused an overspill. very radical groups, indeed, have taken the courses. >> i'm trying to find a motive for this attack. brooke? yeah, back here in boston, the activity that we've been playing
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in watertown, i spent much of my day where the two suspects had lived. i've landed an interview about a block away from the suspect's home with an auto-mechanic who had a pretty odd exchange with this younger suspect. coming up next, we're going to share part of my interview. he saw him and how to deal with him one day after the marathon here in boston. a former cia operative tells us he does not think so.
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>> this is cnn breaking news. >> coming up to 10 minutes to
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3:00 in the morning here. a daunting task trying to figure out why these two young men allegedly carried out these terrorists attack. he says he does not believe that the two brothers acted alone. tells me that he was involved in some sort of group. the fact that they were able to explode two bomt, that they enclosed them.
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that day purt pellets in them. additionally, it's extraordinary. these two men had a running fight with police. this is not normal people who just get their trade craft on the internet and decide to do something. i think one of them may have had training in a camp. this is all going to come out. this has the smell that he got some sort of help. i'm not saying that -- yes? >> so what's the motive, then? they've not carried out an attack on american soil before.
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okay, he was trained this, but why do this? he's looking at a tacks in pakistan. >> there's a lot of celebration, a lot of juplation right now that believes the authorities finally got their man, one dead and one in custody. but the reatty is they terrorized a million people for five days. do you consider this to be a successful operation? i mean, you guys are absolutely right.
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they closed down an american city. i've never seen that happen. if they did get help, is this part of a bigger campaign? a and what don't we know? >> frankly, he probably doesn't know much. 19 years old. he did the least amount of travel that we know of. they will probably get more out of textbooks and chatting and the rest of it. but even then, these links are very, very difficult to establish to some sort of master mind, if you'd like. he did say that his initial instinct was that this is
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carried out by some foreign group. he still believed even though they were local, one's an american citizen and one holds a green card. and now that we know he is alive, authorities will try to glean whatever bits and pieces they can. i was in cambridge, massachusetts. law enforcement was searching their apartment. so a block away from where these two young suspects live in cambridge, very, very nervous. needing his car. this is how he described this
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bizarre encounter. he was around like 12:30, 1:00. he told me that has disappeared. he said that guy is in the parking lot, but i haven't walked to the car yet. he said i don't care. he said no, i need the car right now. he was very nervous. i never seen him acting the way he was acting.
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so irrationally, he would have loved to have kept him right there, of course, and call police. another bizarre angle to the story. this 1 yeerlt was tweeting here. live special coverage of the boston bombing and the subject's arrest continue. yeah, i'm married. does it matter? you'd do that for me? really? yeah, i'd like that. who are you talking to? uh, it's jake from state farm. sounds like a really good deal. jake from state farm at three in the morning. who is this? it's jake from state farm.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome back. one of the more incredible details that we have is we now know want one of the suspects was doing. >> social media providing all of this insight. this younger suspect had been tweeting since the marathon. >> boston bombing suspect apparently had been tweeting. two friends of his tell cnn, it is, in fact, his twitter account.

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