tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN April 20, 2013 12:00am-1:00am PDT
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anything. he re-tweeted will farrel, for example. a while back, he posted this photo, which friends believe is a peckture of his legs. seven messages after the bombing, one of them referring to claritan. >> stay with us here. you're watching cnn's continuing coverage. >> next hour of our live coverage continues right now.
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it is a cold, rainy night in boston, but you wouldn't know it. celebration in the boston area, boston suburbs. as the second suspect is caught. a horrendous week here ending in applause and smiles and cheers and let me just tell you, a collective sigh of relief here in boston. >> hello, everyone. cnn's world headquarters in atlanta. the end of the man hunt hasz finally come. >> gunfight started to erupt in water town.
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>> what followed was a tense standoff with the 19-year-old whose older brothers, the suspected bomber had been killed in a shoot-out with authorities the night before. but, unlike his older brother, the youngest would be captured alive. this photo shows the injured being transferred from a scene in the ambulance you see through the win toes there. >> cheers by residents in watertown and also across the boston area. >> yeah, and, john, the first word that police had caught this suspected bomber didn't come in some huge announcement here.
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it came where else these days? on social media. on twitter. suspect in custody. officers sweeping the area. standby for further information. and then, moments later, boston's mayor, mayor menino tweeting three simple words. >> now, the official announcement has been low-key. but the alleged bomber did not at all. >> it was, indeed, dramatic. by mid evening, we had fwoten word. just about a block and a half away from here to our left. they had arrived on the scene after a passer-by had apparently observed some blood the boat where he was hulled up in.
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that's how the finality came about here. there was an exchange of gunfire. he was weakened when he was captured. he was bloodied. we're not quite sure what the injuries were that he sustained yet. he did put up a fight. we're not quite sure yet. but he had lost blood. he was blood deed by the time he was captured. >> we had fwoten to about 200 yards where that boat kwwas up a trailer. >> we heard police officers saying some things to him on a loud speaker. come out on your own terms.
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we didn't see or hear anything from him. but it was just moments later that he was captured. a very good ending to a dramatic day. >> tlfgs this sort of unique perspective you and your crew had before you walked away from law enforcement. from what we understood, you know, they had searched, police had searched much of this watertown community. >> that's right. they've searched several homes going door-to-door. they've searched just about every home, at some poibt. point.
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clearly, this was not over yet. they needed enough to get out of there and get out of there fast. we knew that things were very fluid and that the situation was very dangerous. so we faded back to beyond the perimeter a little bit more. we got up to a rooftop and we're able to shoot from a little bit of a greater distance. there were flashlights we could see moving around the backyard. clearly, they had secured the scene. they were going around checking out and processing the boat. some of the residents here said they searched his closets, under his beds and everything. he just felt incredibly relieved that it was all home at that point.
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thank you tonight in water town. a lot of people want to hear his story. >> there are so many stories in this book that we all want to hear. we now know who the alleged bombers are. the question that people are now asking is why? why tid they do this? he's been searching for some clues about a possible murder. he joins us on the line from the capital. we know the eldest brother recently went back to dag. and she described him as simply
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coming back to help his father out. he ran a business redoing apartments around which kept the family supported. that was for a month in summer. there are other things we're discovering here, as well. it appears that the family arrived, as we know, from kyrgystan in 2001. and then, just five months later, the depar schur to america, it said. we understand from one official, tamerlan, the deceased bomber, didn't arrive in the united states until 2006.
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that leaves a five-year window, perhaps unexplained. >> really, when the second war in chechnya pushed violence across the region, even activists say to arrest military-aged males really cause radicalism to be with this movement. as i say, we don't know for sure, but were that the case, it could possibly be a moment when he was radicalized. >> this is a set-up. he can't believe his sons would be responsible for this. do many share that feeling? >> absolutely.
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it's almost universally here. the father is pillar of the chunty. they say're not considered trouble to anybody at all. and just simply, the decentist people you could imagine. i think possibly also a degree of size, too. i think when many here with terror against locals here, their local authority, they're inclined that the proof has not been met. fill in some of the blapgs here. they moved to the boston area. and then, recently, the father went back. why did he do that?
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he went back in, the six months as i understand, recently, he was here to visit his father. it seems as though the majority of the fachlly was here from '06. we have heard from locals here, as well. but there may have been some sort of family to which they travel through different periods of time. yes, like so many other people around the world. thank you. doing some digging there to a possible motive. that is going to be where this story heads next. they know who did it and now they want to know why. >> well, they got him alive.
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they will be asking many, many questions. we also heard from the president. president obama speaking to members of the media shortly after this younger suspect. he said the rajty is finally closed. but why? point out the why, why these brothers allegedly carried out his bombing here just about a block from where i'm sitting. and why anyone educational might have been involved. >> one thing we do know to whatever drove these men to such effects will not -- cannot prevail. whatever they thought they could ultimately achieve, they've already failed.
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they failed because the people from boston refused to be terrorized. they failed because we will not waiver from the character, compassion and the values that define us as a country. nor will we break the bonds that hold us together as americans. >> that was the president speaking there at the white house a couple of hours ago. we should also tell you the president thanks the people of boston for their help, for their cooperation as police hunted down these suspects. really, over the last, what? five days now? >> yeah. really a dreadful five days, to say the least. there's no surprise that they were celebrated on the streets of watt othertown. residents showed out for the latest.
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many residents say it is a massive relief. residents are being hulled up in their home. they drew the man hunt forward. it helps in that successful man hunt. the governor of massachusetts added his state. but one police officer told the crowd, quite simply, if you want to thank us, just go home. go home, they say. the humility between first responders and police. you know boston. throughout the city, the latest
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students held their own spontaneous celebration. look at this, students showing their gratitude to a police officer who worked for mit, engineering university just over the river was shot thursday night. it wound up in watertown. students, tonight, they, more than anyone else in boston say they're relieved. i feel relieved. i feel like everybody else has been relieved.
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i feel like i can go back to school now and know that. let me juxtapose those where campuses were on high alert and no one was on the street. john, i was in cambridge today. so many people have been on lockdown. police were searching the suspect's apartments and so fearful. not a lot of cabs going, public transportation not going anywhere. everyone is looking for these two guys. also not knowing. suddenly, it was all over. let's take a short break here on
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welcome back. breaking news. live at the cnn world headquarters. wow, what a weekend it's been. we are now in the wee hours of saturday morning and the whole attack happened monday afternoon here in boston just about a block away from where i'm sitting, john. tonight, all is quiet now. now that we know that suspect number two is captured and in a hospital tonight.
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it is quiet right now. people have been celebrating now. and the officials have said tonight, they're resting a little easier. gunfire erupted friday evening in the boston suburb of watertown. dzhokhar was transferred to a boston hospital. he can be seen through the window of this ambulance. the suspected bomber is listed in a serious condition. standing by live at the medical center. we keep saying, chris, it is in the wee early hours there right now. but, still, heavy security, i imagi imagine. >> >> yes, definitely heavy security and heavier than normal, john. right now, everything is in the
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hands of these doctors. this was basically the same medical team that treated his older brother about 24 hours earlier. his brother was brought here in cardiac arrest. he died at this hospital. now, the younger brother is being treated here for his injuries. they're not going to any further detail than that. he basically lost a tremendous amount of blood. he was covered in blood when he was brought here. right now, they're saying serious condition. and when we get a further update, it won't come from the hospital it. we're being told it would come from the fbi.
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the care of the medical status would be handle by the hospital itself. we're being told that's not the case this time. that the fbi will be the ones updating the medical condition when we get it. >> and once he's this better shape, what happens to him then? >> then the legal process starts to take shape. >> his is a little bit different. he will be questioned by that high-value interrogation unit. the special unit made up of the fbi, cia, defense department officials. these are rules following the attack on september 11th to deal with specific cases just like this. basically, what they believe to be terrorist acts committed here
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in the united states. in which the normal, legal channels wouldn't apply. you're seeing that play out in terms that he wasn't read his miranda rights. the difference being they can ask the question, they can get the information they need. but, the information they get, they can't, then, turn around and use against him at a trial. that would have to be gained separately. >> okay, thank you, chris. chris pulling a late shift for us. it was interesting, he said that, well, dzhokhar will, in fact, be a valuable piece of evidence, if you like.
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really, he was an older bloer. the younger one, i don't know, went aloong for the ride. >> yeah, the older brother, younger brother scenario. how this is sort of reminiscent of the sniper shooting. it was a similar situation. it soernly was a question just floating out there right now. and now that the police work has played off and chris was talking about tonight, as you've been discussing, it's really time to the legal aspect of the marathon bombings. earlier tonight, anderson cooper talked with senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin.
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the first thing that will happen will lay out the basics of the case against him. he will then be arraigned. in normal circumstances, someone arrested on a friday night would probably not be arraigned until friday morning. he might be arraigned tomorrow if he's in medical shape to be arraigned. at the arraignment, two things will happen. there will be a discussion of bail. he will fot get out on bail, obviously. they will set what's called a preliminary hearing 30 days forward. what will happen is in those 30 days, in the next 30 days, he will be indicted by a grand jury. then the case will be assigned to a federal district judge. that's when the case will really begin. but the next legal defense will perhaps be tomorrow, perhaps monday.
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at any time that he's physically able to be arraigned. >> officials say unspecified medical needs. >> there's still a long time before this plays out. >> dzhokhar looks more boyish in this up-dated photo. relatives who haven't been in touch with him since he moved to the u.s. over a decade ago. >> we're ethnic chechens.
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>> the suspect's uncle was asked by reporters that might have provoked dzhokhar and his dead brother. tamerlan. but in tweets which blooe to be the twitter account, ain't no love in the heart of the city. he even won a scholarship before enrolling in dartmouth college. most friends and teachers say they never saw any kind of trouble.
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he was on the wrestling team. he went to parties with other students. >> he was a wonderful kid. we were proud of him. he was an outstanding athlete. there was nothing -- he was never a troublemaker at the school. >> but another friend says one conversation does stand out. >> a friend of mine, you know, we've been in contact this morning. >> still, the suspect's father told russian television he believes his sons were set up. >> someone framed them. i don't know who did it, but he did.
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is this is cnn breaking news. >> there there is an active incident in watertown right now. >> a city in terror after a night of chaos and violence. >> reporter: residents woke up in the middle of the night during a shootout between police and the boston marathon bombing suspect. they say it was like being in the middle of a war zone. it looked like they hit a police car and were just shooting at that. >> they freaked out. they called 9-1-1. they said we don't want to freak you out, but there's a shooting right outside your house. i was freaking out. i heard explosion after explosion. so i crouched down in my doorway and i saw the bullet come from here to there. it was so scary.
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it was so loud. many families' lives disrupted. these are families who have little children. they saw s.w.a.t. team lights, a group of police officers banging on their door. they we they weren. one suspect was killed. a launch of the entire city of boston and its suburbs. >> we believe this to be a terrorist. we believe this to be a man who's come here to kill people.
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stay indoors with their doors locked. the streets? deserted. public transit? shult down. schools and universities closed. police search for him before he can hurt anyone else. >> i say turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. >> and that is a look at the last 24 hours, really, here in boston. we are live from where those two blasts went off. hopefully, sleeping a little easier tonight. >> a lot of this can be traced back to 5:00 on thursday.
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about 30 hours now, maybe a little more. that really sparked the chain of events which led often to the stand off in watertown. early friday, it was kind of like the catalyst for a lot of people recognizing who this young man, this suspect was. let me just run down beginning with this. you see a standing ovation for their work the last couple of days.
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especially just a couple hours ago ach they captured number 2. >> you hear the gunfire, the ending wasn't peaceful. gunfire erupted after police had 19-year-old dzhokhar zarniya surrounded just outside watertown in a suburb. you're looking at a picture of an ambulance right now. he is listed in serious conditions font. more now on the capture of dzhokhar zarniya on a null day.
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brian todd joins us with exclusive details. >> tell me what saw and heard? >> the police told us to get out of there because we were in the cross fire zone, brooke. we got about 200 yards from the boat. they were saying things like come out with your hands up, we know that you're in there. come out on your own terms. he tid engage them. he had been weakened with a loss
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of blood. there were a lot of offices swarming the area. he was considered very violent. they didn't know whether he would have explosives on him. it was a very, very intense moment there. soo that's another kind of how it all came down. pretty much in the 8:00 eastern hour. ironically, kind of just minutes after authorities had completed a news conference. he heard some gunfire and the police and just rushed to the
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scene. it's as if it was also time. it's how it unfolds about 7:00 and 9:00 eastern hours. brooke? >> brian, let's just walk back a step. tell me why police had honed in. what happened there? >> this was 12 or 17 hours earlier. and then, come into this area where they engaged in a standoff, a very, very violent
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standoff some of the witness accounts are just incredibly dramatic. how that all unfolded when his brother was killed. that's what kind of led them into this area where the suspect was hulled up. they were going around to almost every house. so there's a chance, brooke, he may have been in that boat for much of the day. >> these will come out once law enforcement officials are able to talk to him around try to understand where he was and why. brian, thank you so much. >> yeah, brooke, it is going to take a while before the
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showed any inclination towards terrorism. here she was. >> my younsest was raised in america. and my oldest was really,really properly raised. and, in our house, nobody talks about the terror region. and my son, tamerlan, never really got ininvolved in religion. he never told me he would be on the side of jihad. they knew what my son was doing and what site on the internet he was going. how could this happen. this is a terrorist act.
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>> so that was the mother that we've heard from and we've also heard from john, the father, right? the father? you're absolutely in disbelief that his two young sons could have been capable of this. >> it is surprising that the parents of these two young men are speaking out. their father is angry that the older son was killed by police. >> translator: someone framed them. i don't know exactly who did it, but someone did. >> translator: when you try calling the younger one, the phone is off. all phones are switched off. one of them is a great lawyer and i can't get through to him. i want to get more information. those are my kids, you understand? i'm afraid for my other boy. maybe he will be shot dead, too.
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they will say well, he had weapons. kids, with weapons? you don't find weapons in a garbage can. i have nothing more to say: it's all because i'm afraid for my son. they should bring him in alive. alive. justice should decide who is right and who is guilty. >> have you ever had any complaints about the justice there? >> no, never: >> translator: he would spend less times with friends and more time studying. you quit the university because you got married early. let the kid at least graduate.
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that's why i'm always telling them, study, study, study. >> no, not at all. thank allah that they were not there and didn't suffer. this is it. what explosion? i have nothing more to say. >> and we should note the father did speak again after he made that interview. he described his youngest son, who is now in police custody, he said he is "a true angel." brooke? the last victim to die here in the boston area was shot and killed thursday evening. it all began monday afternoon at
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the iconic boston marathon on patriot's day. you see that on the cover of sports illustrated this month. in total, 178 people were wounded by these explosions. 58 at this hour are still in area hospitals. the richard family released a statement friday thinking everyone who helped. we also think that citizens and businesses that shared images and footage with investigators in hopes of advancing the investigation. and it worked. tonight, our community is, once again, safe from these two men.
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none of this will bring our beloved martin back. this is where the bomb went off. you can see the crosses in honor of those victims. this is where they lost their lives. john? >> i understand you've spoken to a few people who were close to them? >> yeah, i think the how could they do this question, no one has the answer to that one yet. but, yeah, i spent my day in
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cambridge with fbi and law enforcement were all there to search this home. coming up, we'll share my interview with him as he describes him as a leader on this high school. we'll be right back. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. that's why you need lifelock to relentlessly protect what matters most... [beeping...] helping stop crooks before your identity is attacked. and now you can have the most comprehensive identity theft protection available today... lifelock ultimate. so for protection you just can't get anywhere else, get lifelock ultimate. >> i didn't know how serious identity theft was
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he told me about what kind of person he was. a lot of people may be surprised. take a listen. >> you knew dzhokhar, he was your -- you're on the wrestling team with him. he was the captain of the team his senior year. what kind of guy was him? >> he was an okay guy. i knew him for four or five years. the only time i see him mad was after he lost a wrestling match. that's about it. other than that, he's always smiling. he's always happy. >> let me step back for a moment. you learned that it was dzhokhar that was one of these two suspects here in boston on monday because you woke up this morning what your mother called you and you saw a picture? >> when i woke in the morning, my mom woke me up. i saw a picture. at first, i thought it was a joke or something.
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and then, my friend, he told me, let's go down. i went to facebook when i woke up and everyone is saying he's a bad guy and all of that stuff! what has he said to you about his older brother? >> he never mentioned his older brother or background at all. it was back in 2009 and he said he was from chechnya. >> i asked you had you ever been to the apartment? he said he always had you drop him off around the corner? >> yes x after wrestling practice, i would drive him down here and he would tell me to stop my car down there. i was like oh, okay. that's fine.
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>> down norfolk street? >> and others are also coming forward with this or someone wo knew him was again on cnn. here's morgan live. i'm really surprised of the outcome that's happened. he's enthralled with his brother who is six, seven years older than him and clearly becoming more fundamentalist in his islamic belief. did you get any sense when you spoke to dzhokhar that he was getting religious, suddenly?
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not at all torks be honest. i would name him as unreligious. i never thought him to be religious at all. the thing about him is i guess he followed in his brother who is more like a father figure to him than his father who is all the way across the world. >> now, sir, when you heard it was dzhokhar, the fbi was looking for, what was your reaction to that? >> to be honest, the first time i saw the picture of the suspects on -- i saw the picture op on redit, the blurry kind, i thought there was some resemiblens there, but not enough to contact any authorities. it was probably bad on my part not to do so.
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how can you explain -- how can this 189-year-old -- i've got a 19-year-old son. he's about three days older. so i'm trying to think of a kid that age. he's not a kid. he's not a child. he's a young man. he seems to be perfectly normal until all of the people like you had recent dealings with him. >> do you have any possible explanati explanation? >> i would say sibling influence. we still don't know all of the facts. that's why i'm glad the boston police were able to capture him live. we really don't know all of the information. we don't really know how, like, how he was coerced, maybe, into
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doing this. he never gave you a sense of being anti-american? >> i would say he shares an american lifestyle, really, more than anything. i would bt say he's anti-american at all. >> it was an incredible interview when you listen to that. >> that is the big question that's loochling about. a quiet night here in boston as we are at the 3:00 a.m. -- 4:00 a.m. eastern hour as many people are getting a good night's sleep. special coverage here in boston coming up next.
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