where the father of these two suspects lives, that is where they come from and we have news this morning an exclusive interview with the father of these two men, cnn's nick payton walsh caught up with anzor tsarnaev. tell us about the reaction of the father of the two suspects? >> he has been driving occasionally past his house behind me, two occasions, he stopped, a woman got out of his car, first questioned the answer is obscured on microphone i asked him if he thought his sons were involved in boston, his response was never, ever. let's hear what else he had to say.

so during that conversation, he made it clear to me that he will be going to the united states very soon. he also said that he had a meeting with russian special services. he made it absolutely clear he was in pain, defiantly disbelief in his son's role in anything to do with the boston attacks and clearly was very frustrated, very angry at the attention he was facing. let's hear exactly what it was he had to say. i'm with cnn, i'm so sorry, sir, we just wanted to hear your story and that was all. this is a very difficult time for you. we want to give you the chance to tell people how you feel about this. we just feel we don't really have a chance to properly hear

all you have to say about the terrible circumstances you're in. [ inaudible ]. >> sir your sons didn't do this? >> no. >> reporter: are you going to america? >> yes. >> reporter: when will you leave? you will forgive me, i know it's a difficult time for you. i'm simply trying to do my job here. i understand. when was the last time you spoke to them? [ inaudible ] had you been in touch with the special services here, what did they have to say to you? okay, i understand. i understand. clearly during that conversation a man greatly under strain of course the news only recently reaching him that his second youngest son is now in custody

and most likely facing charges as you just clearly heard, under intense pressure, great media spotlight, dozens of journalists passing past his apartment here, a man also briefly detained by russian security services trying to go to america, presumably hoping he might declare his son's name despite the constant drumbeat of evidence provided by u.s. officials. john? >> all right, nick paton walsh reporting from dagestan thank you so much. we have pamela brown now at beth iz resrael deaconess hospi. pamela? >> reporter: john, we have learned from a doj source on background that even though charges have not been filed yet that they may be coming very soon, even while the suspect is still recovering here at beth israel deaconess. federal prosecutors have been here since last night working on the possible charges and that he

will face terrorism charges according to a doj sources. now once those charges are brought forward he will be arraigned from their preliminary hearing will be set and he will be indicted on grand jury. also facing federal charges, right now he's in federal kus i can custody and will face federal charges and could face state charges of murder but from there a deal should be worked out between federal authorities and state authorities. again so far no charges have been filed but we're hearing from sources that those charges will be brought soon. >> what kind of differences in penalties are there for the state and federal charges? clearly that's what prosecutors will want to look at very carefully. >> absolutely. on the state level, because we are in the state of massachusetts, we would not be able to face a death penalty. there is no death penalty here in massachusetts, but because of federal charges supersede the state charges he could still face the death penalty on the

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boston! boston! boston! boston! >> that was the jubilation we saw here on the streets of boston overnight over the news that 19-year-old jock hadzhokha tsarnaev was taken into custody. he was captured last night after a gunfight with police. this tweet confirmed what residents had been hoping for since monday's bombing, it says "suspect in custody." the fbi was quick to announce the dramatic conclusion adding the word "captured" to its wanted poster and now this morning's "boston globe" really wraps up the sentiment of the entire city, the headline "nightmare's end." >> a banner headline after what has been an unbelievable week in the city. >> quite a front page. after tsarnaev's capture last night the president addressed the nation, he praised the police and the people of boston. >> that's right but he also said

answers, we need answers in this tragedy and the support of the entire federal government would be needed as well and would be made available. athena jones is in washington. what else did we learn from the president last night? >> reporter: good morning. i should mention at the white house the flags are still flying at half staff and pennsylvania avenue in front of the white house is still shut down to the public. i can tell you that the president was closely monitoring all of the events as they unfolded in boston yesterday, getting regular updates and i believe we have a photo of the president speaking with lisa monaco, she's his assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism and she gave him this update after that second suspect was captured last night. in speaking to reporters last night the president continued to offer some of the words of comfort we've been hearing from him all week to the city of boston and to victims, but he also talked about next steps. let's listen to what he had to say there. >> i've instructed the fbi and the department of homeland

security and our intelligence community to continue to deploy all the necessary resources to support the investigation, to collect intelligence, and to protect our citizens. we will determine what happened. we will investigate any associations that these terrorists may have had, and will continue to do whatever we have to do to keep our people safe. >> reporter: the president began to raise many of the questions we've all been asking how these two young men who pretty much grew up here and studied here came to carry out this alleged attack, whether anyone helped them, how they planned it out and so these are some of the questions that investigators are hoping to be able to answer by continuing to talk to the people who knew them and hopefully to question the suspect as well, when that's possible. back to you, christine and john. >> athena jones at the white house thank you so much. >> why do people commit acts of terror? next a psychologist gives

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we want to focus on one of the big questions here, the why. what's the why behind acts of terror? we may not know the specific motive yet in the boston marathon attack. >> terrorism in general is often used to cause widespread fear and panic. for more on the mind-set of people who commit terrorist attacks we turn to clinical psychologist jeff gardere. for several days we wanted to know the who. now we know the who, who authorities think did this and we want to know the why. why do people use terrorism? why do that? >> well the cia, the fbi have talked to a lot of former terrorists. they have them in deradicalization programs and they actually have them in therapy and they found that they see themselves as victims.

they often are alienated from the greater society. they begin to blame the society for their own personal failings and of course they identify with the suffering of their own group, perhaps generations before, or another group, and of course, we know that the internet allows them to be part of a greater group that has a lot to do with radical and terrorist thinking. >> one of the interesting things about this case is after the bombings monday there was no claim. >> yes. >> no one said, we did this. however, thursday night into friday morning after the carjacking these brothers did tell the guy whose car they stole they did identify themselves as the boston marathon bombers. not sure if that was bragging or not but why do you think they claimed responsibility finally? >> i think part of that is perhaps they were disaffected from their own feelings and the reality as to what was really happening and that they could be

caught. i think you're looking at people who, when they have this kind, they engage in this kind of carnage, they feel that they are extremely powerful. they fool themselves into believing that they can get away with it and they then become very careless and so even though they didn't claim responsibility because perhaps just they just wanted to get away, this bragging was part of this omnipotence that they were feeling at that particular time, killing several people, maiming over 100 people, and all of that media attention behind them. so it gave them this false sense of power. >> definitely the investigators will be trying to figure out what made the perpetrators tick but now there is a psychological component for the victims, and for survivors. some of the runners of the boston marathon they could experience survivor's guilt, right, for bringing family and friends to marathon, for being there, people who ended up

getting hurt. tell us a little bit about the survivors and five, six days on from this original event what people are going to be feeling, why some people could get it and why some might not. >> right. what we do know is that people who do have survivors guilt, these are individuals of course who are in reality blameless. it is not their fault that people that they know were hurt or may have been killed. so what we need to do with them is to work with them, debrief them, bring the reality testing, if you will, into the picture to let them know that, in fact, the actions of what happened had nothing to do with them but had to do with the terrorists in this particular case and just getting them, christine, just to talk about it, begins to get them to understand that their responsibility is that of getting better and honoring the memories of those who have been killed or those in fact who have

been injured. >> i think a couple emotions a lot of people are feeling not just necessarily those who ran the marathon, there's anger, anger that people could pull this off and attack this great state like that and there's also fear, fear about you know, what do we do next time? what about the 118th running of the boston marathon. how do you deal with the fear that may come with coming out to watch that event next year? >> well we need to let people know that fear is normal, anxiety is normal, but if you give in to the fear and the anxiety all the time, that begins to stress you out and of course it would make you ill not just emotionally but physically. so what we have to do is take that anxiety, turn it around, and become empowered. we talk a lot about this idea of if you see something, say something, being vigilant, empowering yourself to do very positive things, but at the same time to not be so vigilant or

hypervigilant that you start reading things into situations that are not there or stereotyping or profiling other individuals. we had that conversation earlier, but the most important thing is to take control of con. work with other people. work with your colleagues, friends and family. discuss what you're feeling but certainly to move forward and to continue to have a good, high quality of life. live your life. live your life. that's the most important thing. >> thank you so much. listen to your children too. they are getting snippets of this whether you try to protect them from the news or not. keep your ears open no what your kids are asking. >> a day that began with police in people's backyards in panic in watertown ended with a dramatic gunfight but also a genuine sense of relief and celebration that really looked like the fourth of july in some places. we'll tell you about that when we come back. further than words, there's iams.

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by any measure it's been an incredible couple of days here. >> it certainly has. most of us woke up yesterday to a citywide manhunt and a shutdown that brought business in boston to really a complete standstill. >> by the end of the day, police had the man in custody changing the city's mood from anxiety to celebration. >> it's just something i never experienced in my news career is pulling up on the scene and hearing multiple gunshots fired. >> we heard three big booms and multiple gunshots. >> it was like a ton of gunshots and then, boom, boom, three big bangs. >> what we're looking for right

now is a suspect consistent with the discrimination of suspect number 2. >> we're asking people to shelter in place. in other words, to stay indoors with their doors locked and not to open the door for anyone other than a properly identified law enforcement officer. >> i say, dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness from the victims, from the injured and from those who lived. ask forgiveness from these people. >> they do have him cornered right now. >> they have the suspect. they believe it is the suspect. >> we heard what appeared to be several shots. that sounded different than the flash bang. i heard one of those before. it distinctively sounded

different. it was shots being fired. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> if you are just joining us, good evening, everyone. what started about 23 hours ago now seems to be finally over. the last suspect being searched for by police according to boston police department, that suspect is now in custody. >> today the city of boston, the city of cambridge and the city of watertown and many other communities can breathe a sigh of relief knowing that two perpetrators that caused so much pain and anguish are no longer a threat to our personal safety and to our communities. those hands. oooh la la! what's your secret? dawn? [ female announcer ] dawn hand renewal with olay beauty improves the look and feel of hands in 5 uses. love it, or get double your money back.

jamie mcmurray: a boy born in joplin, missouri, was fascinated by anything with wheels and a motor. the odds of him winning both the daytona 500 and the brickyard 400 in the same year? 1 in 195 million. the odds of a child being diagnosed with autism? 1 in 88. i'm jamie mcmurray, and my niece has autism. learn more at autismspeaks.org/signs. >> good morning, everyone. >> we are here this saturday morning in