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continues now with jake tapper a brooke baldwin, here in boston. >> half a world away from boston, the parents -- the parents of the bombing suspects lash out. they say their lives are now in danger and their sons are victims of an elaborate hoax. good morning. welcome to a special edition of i news room" live from boston. i'm jake tapper. >> i'm brooke baldwin. busy morning of developments. let's begin with investigators looking into a bizarre and fascinating possibility that his older brother, a devout muslim, with fundamental beliefs may
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have funded attacks by peddling illegal drugs. the father of dzhokhar and tamerlan say terrorists are threatening the family in southern russia. both his sons are innocent and that they were somehow framed. their mother takes it one step farther, she believes this bloody crime scene here in boston was no more than a lot of smoke. actors, she says, played the main victims, and the blood was nothing more than paint. this from the suspected bombers here. much more on that in a moment. first, russian president vladimvladmir putin urging closer cooperation with the united states and this follows concern that by some that u.s. intelligence agencies failed to follow through on concerns from russia. russia asked americans to investigate tamerlan tsavraev because he appeared to be sliding into islamic extremism.
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the first warning reported on cnn went to the fbi in 2011. the second went to the cia months later. republican senators john mccain and kelly ayotte want a congressional hearing to determine if vital clues were missed because the agency did not communicate. a former cia operative said the safeguards put in place to protect you and me clearly failed. >> it's systemic, absolutely. no other way to describe it as a failure. immigrations didn't tell the fbi that he was leaving, immigration didn't tell the fbi he was coming back. we don't know what the cia told the fbi. two warnings from russian intelligence you don't ignore. the fsb, fcr, the two main russian intelligence agencies don't like the united states, don't provide technical intelligence, and when they do, you better listen. >> u.s. officials say when the fbi and cia ended their separate
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investigations, they concluded the older brother posed no threat. russia refused requests for more information. so the big question, did the intelligence community have the information that could have prevented these bombings? former fbi assistant director and law enforcement analyst tom fuentes joins us from washington. simply put, was the ball dropped? >> i don't think so. no evidence to say that it has been dropped at this point. the information that first came to the fbi was investigated and the investigated it very diligently, as near as we can tell, up to and including interviews with tamerlan himself, checking his electronic communications, who he was in touch with. what friends and neighbors thought of him and all of that. the -- i should say the lead that comes in later to the cia, and i don't know if they are identical, but i ran the office of the fbi for five years, that
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oversaw the requests from the moscow office back to fbi headquarters and the appropriate field division in this case so it would go to the jttf in boston. it would go to the security officials in washington. that information would be shared. not a question of sending it to another agency. they all sit side by side on the jttf and have access to it. everybody has access to everything. as far as -- very common for russians and other countries for that matter to shotgun out their requests. we don't know if the one that came to the cia is the exact same one that came to the fbi or not. it's not uncommon to send it to multiple u.s. agencies, who decides to take it, who does what when they bring it over. in fairness to the cia, they are not authorized to conduct investigations in the u.s. that's the fbi and state and local law enforcement's job, not theirs. so what they would have done, they would have made an inquiry
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to the database, see that it was investigated by the fbi. see to the extent appropriate the name was entered into various terrorist databases. the one database has nearly 500,000 names. it does not qualify or warrant every person in that for 24/7 monitoring or to try to keep track of them into the future. >> but, tom, i read about this database this morning and we know that the tips, came into the fbi and cia before they came from chechnya. from an uneducated view, reports that his name was misspelled, different dates from his birthday. how come sirens didn't go off? how come he was allowed to go over there in the first place? he was listed in this database. it doesn't make sense. >> a person being listed in the database doesn't mean they can't leave the country and go back, visit family. it means to try to keep track of
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them, and you are right. i don't know exactly what stops were put in, passport control for that, but i can tell you the dhs officials that do that, sit on the jttf and can access and enter information on the databases right there. not a question of stove piping, because everybody would have everything. it's a question of whether or not he qualified or what level of stops that were put in. beyond that we're not sure. it's still under investigation. additionally, you know, the concern of the russians let's say for him, involved with groups in russia, that are terrorist organizations, they were watching those organizations 24/7. why don't they notify us when as people think, he wanders into their surveillance, shows up, meeting with abu dujan or abu dujan's people. the russians are watching him and his people as much as
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possible and ultimately this past december kill him in a major shoot-out. we hear nothing about that. no information was coming back, saying what he was up to over there, and that would have been up to the russian security service to tell us. what he's sdoog. >> no doubt, tough questions for the russian as well. thank you very much for your views this morning. moments ago, the tsavraev parents held a news conference, father headed to the united states in a few hours. cnn senior correspond respondent nick patton walsh joins us. you spoke to their mother. but nic robertson, let's start with the news conference. what did they say? >> jake, it was about a 45-minute press conference. a lot of journalists, questions being fired in english and
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russian from all sides, a jumble of economi of questions. at times they seem confused. at times emotional, at times direct and strident in what they were saying. tamerlan's mother in particular, saying they wouldn't be allowed to see dzhokhar in the hospital in the united states. getting very emotional about that at a point. saying she was speaking to dzhokhar's lawyers and saying right now, he is being fed only by a feeding tube. can't take solid food and she also said and this is contrary to what we understand. she said so far he hasn't had any official questioning. but the emotion, her emotion, coming out, saying she might denounce her u.s. or renounce her u.s. citizenship. this seems to be a parent here, who is caught in confusion, they don't really understand what's happening or the set of denial what's happened. coming up with all sorts of theories that they never actually had done it, and coming
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up with conspiracy theories. these were people here in this press conference, emotion, at times confused directly. >> nick paton walsh, we are aawaiting the father's arrival in boston. he is heading to the united states. not the mother is this because of the shoplifting charge she's facing? >> she told me in the interview on camera, she didn't care about those charges and said in the press conference that isn't going to be an issue. off camera, she said i am a little bit worried about that. delaying her arrival there. above all, it was a case of a woman really trying to reconcile the feeling she has toward her sons, and this is about islam what will be put in front of her by officials. what she had to say. american officials say your sons
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murdered three people and injured over 100 and deliberately planted bombs in civilian area and detonated them. and then went on the run shooting people. have you seen the pictures. >> i haven't. >> reporter: there are people in boston who want to know why, and they believe they did this. they believe that. >> you know, i -- i saw a very, very interesting video last night that they -- the -- it was something like a really big plate, that is like paint instead of blood. like it's made up something. >> you really believe that? do you believe what the mesh officials are saying? do you believe the whole thing was a sham? >> i don't -- that's what i want to know. because everybody is talking
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about it. this is a show. that's what i want to know. that's what i want to understand. >> reporter: caught in the contradiction and saying that the fbi had talked to tamerlan tsavraev, saying the radical level of islamic faith meant they would keep him under observation and the family as a whole seems to take a turn to devout strain of muslim religion, telling his mother to cover up, because a man named misha, began having a strong influence on them. >> misha, everybody talking about misha now. i don't know -- misha, yes, misha, when misha visited us, kind of -- just opened our eyes. you know, really wide about
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islam. and he was really -- he was devoted and he is a very good -- very nice man. >> but at time, incredibly emotion emotional, saying she feeling completely empty inside, feeling almost dead as she moves around, jake, brooke. >> nick paton walsh and nic robertson, thank you. we are learning that they detonated the bomb using something resembling the remote control for a toy car. we have more on that. >> reporter: we are being told by a member of the house select intelligence committee, that, in fact, the brothers used some sort of remote control twidevic. we know the younger brother, here at the hospital, just behind me, had at least ten seconds to walk away before the
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second bomb exploded. and so they are looking into the remote control and that's what the member of the house select intelligence committee is telling us right now. also what's interesting, police looking closely at a bin found in watertown and some of our affiliates are reporting inside the bin, investigators may have found or someone found what appears to be a bag filled with empty fireworks canisters. they are looking into the theory that the brothers may have used fireworks in which to build a sort of explosive impact. and those folks we have been talking to, in terms of how they describe the bomb, white smoke. a bright flash, everything is consistent with fireworks. that's what investigators have been telling us as well. it's not clear yet whether dzhokhar tsavraev will be moved from this particular hospital there are talks that he should be moved. he's under a doctor's care and doctors will make that decision whether he is stable enough to
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be moved and that would be a decision from the doctors, u.s. attorneys, and the fbi, and it will take him to another security facility. that has the kind of care, the emergency care likely to need. jake. >> a lot of victims' families not happy that the man is being cared for under the same roof. we are also hearing bits and pieces after last monday's marathon bombing anecdotally that there was some sort of plan the two brothers had, a plan to party in manhattan. what do you know about that? >> reporter: well, given the way this all played out, it's hard to believe these two men had a ambulance to do anything after they set the devices off, given how chaotic it was, but apparently investigators said when he was questioned by
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investigators, the 19-year-old suspect apparently said the brothers made some comment about going to new york and going to party. whatever that means. when you look at conspiracy theorists you say, party, what does that mean? it may mean what it says. the younger brother had been in new york within a two-year period, visiting friends. we doan know n't know in terms k looking at what it means. let's listen to ray kelly. >> they may have been intent on coming to new york, but not continuing what they were doing. we have information on a party, or partying. >> reporter: clearly, jake and brooke, new york ratcheted up security after what happened here in boston. so everybody on alert. but that's pretty much all we know. how they would have gotten down to new york city, again, ended so chaotically with the killing
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of the young police officer who set the thing in motion in temps of their capture, jake, brook. >> all right, thanks so much. ahead, investigators are turning their focus to tamerlan tsavraev's wife. what she is telling them about his past. coming up. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history...
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welcome back, live in boston. i'm brooke baldwin alongside jake tapper. we were just talking to nick paton walsh,dagestan. he just spoke with the mother of the two young boys, the mother and father actually gave a news conference. pretty mobile news conference at that. here is a clip of what this mother had to say. >> somebody told that misha was, and they were close friends, and so they think that misha made him become more -- more --
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somebody told them that misha was the one who was influenced on him. >> and you met misha? >> of course i met misha. >> reporter: describe misha. >> very nice. nothing wrong. very intelligent. very like -- nothing to talk about. >> i want to ask about his trips, particularly interested in the time he came to dagestan. >> about what? tamerlan? a lot of questions about tamerlan and his trips. >> two trips, one in 2011, and one in 2012? >> no. only 2012. >> only 2012. >> um-hum. >> reporter: and that was six months in which he was with --
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>> yeah. >> and are you going to america? >> i think so. i think so. >> reporter: you want to? >> yeah, because i really want to -- i really want to see how it is going to end. >> reporter: you want to bury your son? >> of course. of course. even though i doan know if they will let us see dzhokhar, but i want to go. i want to see tam eveerlan if football. >> reporter: and there is an issue for an arrest warrant for you? >> i don't even care. that isn't even something that is difficult. it wasn't a big deal and i don't care about it. what i care is only the death of my oldest son, who i think was killed and the youngest wone wh
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really needs the support. >> can you describe to me how you think this situation came about? we said before, now you believe their innocence. how do you think it's come to this stage to the american officials saying that they are guilty? >> you know, it's really difficult. i -- i really don't know how to explain, but i feel there is something wrong. i don't know. i really feel that there is something wrong. i'm thinking through the day, through the night, i don't see anybody. i don't see anything to pay attention to like -- i mean about his friends, like whoever was surrounding him. i think that it would really
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catch my attention. >> reporter: describe to me the pain. >> it's -- i don't know how to describe it. a mother, just because are you not a mother, you won't understand it. i am a mother. loving mother. i can't even -- i can't even describe it. i don't know. i have no strength, i have nothing. i have no sleep. i am just dead. a dead person. how can i describe it? >> tamerlan, he is dead.
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how you know for sure. >> i saw his body. when he is alive, i saw a link on the computer. i saw this was really a mistake, something going on. because i look at the one who was really shown by whoever worked, you know, saying that tamperlan was killed. in a terrorist operation. a shooting, like whatever. and then i saw after that. tamerlan make it -- putting into the police car. >> that's nick paton walsh with the mother of the boston terror suspects. other stories making news. two fuel barges explode. lighting up a river in alabama. the latest on the fire and the casualties. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready.
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i'm brooke baldwin. alongside jake tapper. back to the special coverage here, but first, let's get a check of other news on thursday morning. including a fire that has finally died down after explosions rocked the two fuel barges on alabama's mobile river. tremendous flames earlier this morning. fire apparently ignited after a buildup of natural gas vapors. three people optized right now, listed in critical condition. six explosions heard up to 20 miles away. the worst of the midwest floods may be over for some people. mississippi river levels have peaked above st. louis. and major flooding on the illinois river in peoria, expected to last through the weekend. and clues, investigators are looking into who sent the ricin laced letters to president
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obama, senator wicken and a county judge. a mipssissippi man's home and martial arts studio has been searched. charges dropped against mother man who was initially suspected of sending the letters. after four years behind bars in an italian prison. amanda knox is ready to tell her side of the story. >> reporter: in a glossy rollout timed to the release of her new book, waiting to be heard, amanda knox is breaking her silence and a primetime special on abc. interviews the world has been waiting to hear. >> she is very thoughtful, articulate. emotional. >> reporter: in people, the 25-year-old speaks c candidly at life in prison. >> one of the things that
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sustains her is some family photos. she is so lonely, she caresses it. >> so lonely she thought about committing suicide. knox, a college exchange student italy, spent nearly four years in prison after she and her italian boyfriend were convicted of killing her roommate. knox was dubbed a femme fatale. >> there is this issue of was the wrong person accused or weren't they? let's face it, alfred hitchcock made movies of subjects like this for 50 years. >> two years later, following a dramatic turn of events involving bad evidence, the convictions were overturned. >> thank you to everyone who believed in me.
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defended me. >> reporter: knox says i wanted to lay myself out in a completely honest way. it was you can judge me, but this is what you have to judge me on. >> she is settled in seattle, has a boyfriend, close to her family. >> reporter: run returning to regular life has challenges. had no idea what twitter was, had trouble use iphone and david letterman. >> top ten questions amanda knox would ask. and one of the things is who is justin bieber, and amanda turned to her family, and she is like who is justin bieber? >> back now to special govr rage in boston. since the naming of the boston suspects, one week ago today, investigators have been praised for turning this massively chaotic crime scene into a
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treasure trove of clues and the suspects themselves helped. they made mistakes that put authorities on their trail. >> from his hospital bed, this man scribbles something on a piece of paper. it gives investigators a big jump. jeff bauman, who came to watch his girlfriend race. he writes, bag, saw the guy. looked right at me. it helps them narrow down the suspect as they search through pictures and video. he saw the older tsavraev place a backpack right next to him, close to the finish line. wearing a baseball hat. he found on video footage behind him another young man. investigators zero in. >> today, we're enlisting the public's help to identify the two suspects. after a very detailed analysis,
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photo, video other evidence, we're releasing photos of the two suspects. they are identified as suspect one and suspect two. >> april 18th, three days after the bombing, authorities get the first clims of the suspected bombers, brothers, tamerlan and dzhokhar tsavraev. how did they isolate them? chilling details from the fbi affidavit. 2:38 p.m. the day of the marathon, a security camera picks up the two suspects turning east on boylston from gloucester street. both carrying knapsacks. bomber one a few steps of bomber two. he made the mistake of wearing the baseball cap backward and no sunglasses, making him easily identifiable. additional security shows the two men standing together at 2:41 p.m. at 2:42, the same camera shows the older brother heading toward the finish line. younger one stops, right in
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front of the restaurant. stay there several minutes. only when the first bomb explodes at 2:49 does he begin to walk away, leaving his knapsack on the ground, ten seconds later, it explodes. marathon veteran bob leonard relear took hundreds of photos. he looked to see if his time stamp picked them up too. he up loaded photos of the men's faces to the fbi. even with strong leads, no sign of the suspects. it was as if they had vanished after the bombing. had they left town or make the mistake of laying low until they could escape safely? authorities had no idea when hours after the suspects were id'd, they got word of shots fired. 10:30 p.m., on the campus of
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m.i.t., campus officer sean collier dead in his car, shot multiple times. just before midnight, also in cambridge, a carjacking and another series of mistakes by the suspects. the driver tells authorities that one of the suspects pointed a firearm at him and admitted the bombings, saying "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did that." the suspects need cash, the man forced to hand over his atm card. the stolen suv is running low on gas. they stop at a gas station at 8 6 memorial drive in cambridge. the younger brother caught on surveillance footage. >> the first real clear cut fick picture of the suspects. not only showing what they look like as far as physical city description, but what they were wearing. >> he managed to escape while one suspect was inside and the other pumping gas. a short time later, police track the men down in watertown. not only had they kept their
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hostage's car, but also his phone, which allowed police to track their location. another goof. when approached, the suspects throw explosive devices out of the car and an intense gun battle begins on laurel street in watertown. >> an exchange of over 200 rounds of gunfire, there were improvised explosive devices and hand made hand grenades thrown at the scene. this is the stuff in an urban police department, almost unheard of. >> reporter: the older brother tamerlan tsavraev died at the scene, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsavraev escaped. late friday, a watertown resident notices the straps on his boat's tarp is cut and there is blood. a state police helicopter thermal imagining spotted someone inside. it is dzhokhar tsavraev. sun grenades are uses, and they call on him to surrender. after a brief standoff, dzhokhar stands up, hands raised.
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five days after the city terrorized and countless lives shattered, it is over. randi kaye, cnn. >> we're getting an up close and personal look at the disaster area and crater form by explosion at a plant in texas. investigators sifting through the debris, looking for clues. anncr: and many of the tornado's victims are... without homes tonight. girl: first, i saw it on cable. then i read about it online. i found out how to help. i downloaded the info. i spoke up... and told my friends... and they told their friends... and together, we made a difference. anncr: and tornado relief has been pouring in from... across the country. girl: we might be hundreds of miles apart... but because we're connected, it's like we're all neighbors.
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more special coverage from boston here. but first, a lot happening across the country. headlines, first, people in kenner, louisiana, cleaning up today after two tornadoes hit their town, 90-mile-an-hour winds ripped roofs off homes, blew out windows, no one injured, thank goodness. but crews working to restore power. and a little more than an hour from now, the george w.
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bush presidential center in dallas will get its official dedicati dedication. all five living presidents expected to be there , including president obama, expected to speak at the event. live coverage of the event, starting at 11:00 eastern. >> later today, president obama and first lady michelle obama, head to waco, texas, to attend a memorial for the 14 people who died in that massive explosion, just up the road in west, texas, at that fertilizer plant last week, and ed la vnvandera live waco. you have been there days and days, you have an up-close look at the investigation and the massive explosion. what does it look like? >> reporter: powerful explosion, we got up close to the blast site for the first time. we are down the road in waco,
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where preparations are under way for the memorial service that will start in a few hours, brooke. what is going on here, we'll take you back to what we saw yesterday, and investigators took us up close, the first time that we had a chance to see exactly what was going on at that site. >> a bomb has went off inside here. it's pretty bad. we have a lot of firemen down. >> reporter: captured from firefighter radio transmissions, those were the frantic moments just after the west, texas, explosion sent a deadly shock wave through this central texas town. this is the first up close look at the blast site. this is the blast site here, the crater, 93 feet wide, ten feet deep and that was part of one of the buildings that were -- that was on the ground here. investigators still don't know what caused the fire or triggered the explosion, about 20 minutes after firefighters were called to the scene. >> like putting a puzzle piece
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together. re-enacting that fire to see what transpired to cause the explosion. >> damage so extensive that state and federal investigators are using shovels to sift through the debris. looking for clues to what ignited the fire that led to the explosion. >> it could be remains of the building, electrical components, fertilizer remains, chemical remains, and it could be the way that the material was stored. may find pieces of containers, a whole list of things they are looking for. >> reporter: this is an aerial picture of the fertilizer facility before the explosion. this part of the building is where the explosion erupted this is the site after the blast. the twisted and charred remnants of two fire trucks are still at the scene. you can see the charred remains a second building on the site. and between the two buildings where many of the firefighters and ems teams that were killed in this explosion were working at the time of the explosion.
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>> it's killing me. killing me bad inside. i just want some answers. >> reporter: louise mills are waiting for investigators to identify their brother's remains. morris bridges, father of three children, joined the west volunteer fire department three years ago. he was one of the first people on the scene. you just pray he didn't suffer? >> yes, i do. every day. i know he didn't suffer. i know he didn't. we're suffering. we want him back. >> reporter: louise mills says her brother loved wearing his bright red firefighter shirt and showing off his volunteer firefighter badge. for morris bridges, jumping into harm's way is how you earned the firefighter's badge of honor. and, brooke, already a powerfully emotional scene unfolding here on the campus of baylor university in waco, a procession will come down the road here that will lead up to
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the farrell center here on the campus of baylor university. you can see hundreds of people already lining up and there are honor guards from fire departments from across the state of texas who are turning out here today. we expect thousands and thousands of firefighters to come here to pay respects to the 14 people killed in the blast last week. brooke. >> so, so sad. ed lavandera, the president and first lady will be there, and we'll take it live on cnn. still ahead this morning, a mystery man emerging as officials search for clues in the boston marathon bombings. his name is all we know. >> misha. >> misha is his name. who the heck is he? we'll explain. ♪
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through your mind when you heard explosions at the finish line at the boston marathon? >> yeah. i was reminded that evil exists. and that there are people in the world who are willing to kill innocent people to advance awe cause. i don't know what this cause is, but we'll find out. during the same week, in a town close to us, at crawford, a plant exploded, and both incidents remind me how fragile life can be for some, and both incidents made us weep. knowing that somebody was hurting a lot. >> 202001, mr. bush was preside during the worst terror attack in american history.
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>> the george w. bush presidential center in dallas, we find brianna keilar this morning. you had a chance to tour the museum, what's it like? >> i i did. i got a sneak preview jake. it is pretty fascinating. it takes you from the legacy that george bush intended for himself. at one point, you're staring at a dress that first lady laura bush wore to their first state dinner just six days before 9/11 you take a right turn and then you're confronted with a twisted hulk of steel that comes from the world trade center. everything follows from there, the wars that were fought after. you have the bull horn, which you just saw that president bush used at ground zero. one of the big features is that
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there are a number of interactive exhibits. the largest is the theater which allows visitors to go and contemplate his hardest decisions. people can get advice from military commanders. then they get to make their decision as they would make it. president bush comes on to decide what he ultimately decided and why. we spoke with josh boll ton about his decisions and what were controversial. here is what josh said. >> one of the really cool things about president bush is he doesn't care very much. he is not fixated on his own personal pop -- pop ewe lart.
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then he'll be comfortable with history's judgment. >> you'll have the five presidents here today at southern methodist university. some of it is a little bit like a blast from the past. you have tony blare, john howard and italy's prime minister. >> you can see behind brian na it is quite a crowd. thank you very much. >> of course, we'll have special coverage of today's dedication of the george w. bush presidential library. it starts this morning at 11:00 eastern.
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>> misha, everybody is talking about misha know. i don't know. misha, yes, misha -- when misha visited us, we just kind of -- he just opened our eyes, you know, very wide about islam. he was really -- he's devouted and he's a very good, very nice man. >> but other relatives say the boston suspects have different view of misha. officials are trying to figure out exactly what role he played in the possible radicalization of tamerlan tsarnaev. brian todd did some digging. >> reporter: family members describe a mysterious man who had a mez mer rising influence on tamerlan tsarnaev. they only know him as misha. they don't know his first name.
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here is how the uncle described him. >> there's a person who is a new convert to islam of armenian dece decent. he took his brain. he brainwashed him. there is no respect to his own father. that concerned me big time unbelieu unbelievably. >> reporter: he met misha twice and was introduced to him by tamerlan. he didn't witness misha turning him into a radical islamist, but -- >> he surely did have influence and said things that made him go away from the people and go more into the religion and maybe it is possible that he suggested him some radical ideas.
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>> reporter: tamerlan tsarnaev told him he quit boxes and listening to music because misha fought him in islam it is not good to do those things. >> i didn't suspect him or tamerlan being connected to terror groups or terrorist ideas. they had a lot of conversations about just, you know, islam and how islam is being attacked from the outside from the western countries and how islam is under pressure. >> reporter: asked when tamerlan became a more devout muslim, he noticed it about four years ago. we cross referenced his name.
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half a world away from boston, the parents of the bombing suspect lash out. they say their own lives are in danger and their sons are victims of an elaborate hoax. >> good morning. and welcome to a special edition of news room. i'm jake tapper. >> good morning. i'm brooke baldwin. investigators are looking into this bizarre, but fascinating possibility here that this older brother, a devout muslim with
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fundamental beliefs may have financed the attacks by peddling illegal drugs. meanwhile the father says terrorists are threatening the family back home in russia. he says his sons are innocent and somehow framed. their mother beliefs this whole crime in boston was no more than elaborate hoax. the actors played the main victims and the blood nothing more than paint. >> paton walsh sat down with the mother. >> tamerlan was close friends with him. so i think that misha made him to become more, more deeply religious.
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that's why somebody told them misha was the one who was influenced on him. >> you met misha? >> of course i met misha. >> describe him to me. >> very nice. nothing wrong. very intelligent. very like -- nothing to talk about. >> what else did they ask you about his trips here? were they particularly in the time he came to dagestan? >> about who? >> [ inaudible ]. >> tamerlan. all questions were about tamerlan. >> and his trip here? >> yeah. >> two trips. one in 2011 and one in 2012. >> no only 2012. >> only 2012. and that was six months in which he was with -- >> yeah. yeah. >> are you going to america?
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>> i think so. i think so. >> you want to? >> yeah. because i really want to. really want to see how it is going to end. >> you want to bury your son? >> of course. of course. even though i don't know if they'll let us to see dzhokhar, but i want to go. i want to see my tamerlan, if it's possible. yes, i want. >> there's an issue to do with an arrest warrant for you? >> that don't even care. that's not something that is difficult. it's not a big deal and i don't care about it. what i care is only death of my oldest son who i think was killed and youngest one, who is
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really -- need the support. >> can you describe to me how you think this situation came about? we saw it before and now you believe their innocent. how do you think it has come to this stage of american officials saying they're guilty? >> you know, it is really difficult to -- i really don't know how to explain this crime, but i feel that there is something wrong. i don't know i really feel there is something wrong. i am thinking through the day, through the night. i don't see anybody. i don't see anything to [ inaudible ] to pay a real attention to -- i mean about his friends whoever surrounded him, nothing that would catch my
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attention. >> describe to me the pain. >> i don't know how to describe it, you know. you know mother. you have a mother, right? just because you are not mother, you won't understand it. i am mother, loving mother of two kids. i don't know. it is really crazy. i can't even -- i can't even describe it. i saw my tamerlan naked, putting into police car. pulling -- they pulled him out of whatever the cruiser or their car and put him into a police car where he walked naked, naked, and they are saying that it is not my son, but i know my son.
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i know my son. i know the body of my son i raised from this side -- this is my son. this is -- i don't know how the describe it. he was alive. just two minutes later they put out the pictures that he's dead already, so i don't know. if you have a pictures, please show me that. >> you went to chechnya yesterday. >> yeah. >> to -- father's house. is that an important place for your family? is it a good family location? >> we haven't like been living there that much, so i don't really care about that place. >> i want to ask you some of the things we've been hearing. there are reports he sent you
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text messages talking about the radical nature of his faith and he would be willing to die for islam. is that true? >> no. never true. >> did he go to the mosque when he was here? >> he went to every mosque that he could go and it is not -- i don't to emphasize one -- i don't know why everybody wants to emphasize the -- >> i understand completely. give me one second. we also spoke with a police officer who talked about abu duh jean. >> who is that. >> he was killed in december. did your son ever mention him? there was a link to him on your son's youtube page.
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>> he never talked to me about dujana. >> i'll take one second to download. >> i mean, i was told that you have -- >> it was downloaded before i came here. >> yeah. >> and it is gone away and now it has to come back. this will take a couple of seconds. i am embarrassed this is the case. >> are you going to show me? >> here it is. it is downloading. it was supposed to be here and it is downloading now. i am completely honest with you. >> please be honest. >> why would i be dishonest? >> remember i told you that i saw it. >> i know. i know. >> it is there i saw it. >> just a few minutes, it will be ready.
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describe your son. is there a moment from their childhood that you remember close to you? >> i remember always from the very first day that he was born. there was no day that i don't remember him. every day like many, many moments in our life -- i -- there are many of him to be talking about, so -- he was the most caring son. >> describe to me -- described when he came back here, he was amazing because most kids go to america and they get into drink or drugs and he came back and he was very devout muslim. you are a devout muslim as well. explain to me what your faith
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means to you and what it meant to him. >> what it meant to me? >> what he told you his faith meant to him and what your islamic faith means to you? >> islamic faith is to believe that there is one god and only one messenger. his messenger is muhammud. -- everyone. so. >> what does it mean in daily life? >> praying five times a day, daily life. and making some rem brans of al la. >> what did it mean to him?
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>> -- >> that was the mother of these two suspected bombing suspects. he sat down in an interview with nick paton walsh. he was saying after both the parents gave that news briefing the father is headed to boston. still ahead the fbi and cia are under scrutiny why some say they may have dropped the boll when it comes to the boston suspects. stick around. [ female announcer ] crest plus scope celebrates the daring ones.
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shaq wins. the first with 2 max strength ingredients for long lasting relief. pain over. muhammad. growing questions about the fbi and cia and whether the agencies could have done more to prevent the bombings. russia warned both agencies about tamerlan tsarnaev. the fbi and cia later closed their investigation. >> here in boston is juliette kayyem and washington is tom fuentes. welcome to both of you. bob behr knows this neck of the
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woods in russia. he had some sharp board -- wo words -- >> there's no other way to describe it as a failure. immigrations didn't tell the fbi he was leaving or coming back. two warnings from russian intelligence you don't know. the two main russian intelligence services don't like the united states. they don't provide tack cal intelligence. >> you here him saying those are two warnings you don't ignore. does he have the point? >> if you ignore the warnings -- first of all the fbi did the investigation based on the information they first received
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from the russians. i have not seen the second request which went to the cia to know whether they match and if it is the case they sent the same information to multiple agencies or not. i don't know what's in that question. the cia's job is not to investigate on american soil. they would have coordinated with the fbi. as far as immigration and some of the statements that they're stove piping or lack of cooperation among the u.s. agencies, that simply is not the case. the modern joint terrorism task forces formed since 9/11 -- representatives sit side by side and have access to all the various databases in place. it is not like the fbi needs to
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send a formal question. there are representatives right there that can do it on the spot. >> juliette, you're nodding. i want to get your voice as well. >> so we need to separate two different issues here. one is all of these people who clearly were told by the russians and what were they told. that is a quantity sharing information issue. there's a different issue we should start focusing on, which is the quality issue we have so much intelligence moving around. there's millions of people going in and out of our borders. it is clear the fbi's original investigation of him led hem not to increase surveillance. that did not trigger any additional looks you would want from customs and board of protection and the cia. why is that?
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people should know the answer to that. the same thing that know one is talking to each -- they were both notified by russians. the information from the russians was described at least from government sources as weak at best. and so i'm not saying we know. that's what we have to make clear. we don't know. it is probably true the government doesn't know right know. those are two very different issues. >> intelligence sources told me last week it is very rare for the russians to do that, we're worried about this guy. he is an islamic extremist. the cia checks it out and the fbi. they don't necessarily find anything. it seems on it's face -- not just in hindsight.
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on it's face they say we're worried about this guy. once tamerlan tsarnaev comes back, it seems there should have been some follow up investigation. >> what does that initial fbi review look like? there's so much -- let's say a higher watch list or no fly list meant that there wasn't further review. it is possible that the russians rarely do this. the reason why is because the fbi is asked by lots of foreign countries to look at people here whether they're nationals or illegals. because that's true -- i want to get to the quality issue. i think we're focusing on the quantity issue. we may not know that story for while. it is what happened in that initial investigation matters.
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everything from there triggered people to behave in certain ways. >> tom, what's your reaction to this briefly? we have to wrap up this segment. >> i agree completely with juliette on that. the people aren't informed. i ran the office that controlled those requests the last five years of my career. i know exactly how strong the relationship has been with the russian authorities, the fsb. there are many, many requests that come in on a continuing basis to u.s. officials and particularly the fbi. my office handled the requests. i'm saying it is rare. just in and of itself should have triggered warning bells.
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it did equal for diligent investigation, but the requests are common. >> something else i wanted to point out. moments ago we just confirmed from jessica yell inthat the younger suspects in that boat from thursday night -- friday night that he was not armed. >> everyone needs to prepare for this as well. this is so common in crisises. just to go back to hurricane katrina, no one thought the levees broke for hours. the boat was in the perm ter. important facts to know does not mean what they did was wrong. >> what is the significance of
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the boat being in the perm ter? >> the search in the area did not cover the waterways. you want to make sure she didn't have hostages. they wanted everyone to stay home because it was spring break and they worried people might be there and not answering because they were hostages. i think that -- these facts unfolding are a healthy process of how we learn to do this better next time. i'm not surprised -- rewriting it is the wrong word as people recollect. >> this would be more of an issue had he been shot and killed by the police or the fbi while he was in the boat. you'll notice he treated it that he was potential armed and potentially had explosive, but
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he was talked into sur render. he was taken alive as a result of that. whether there was a gun in the boat or not, he was treated appropriately when he was taken into custody. >> thank you both. >> boylston street affected by the bombings -- they lost a lot of commerce last week. it turns out their insurance policies might not cover any acts of terror. it is that word terror that seems to be an issue here. what does that diz ig nation mean for that insurance provider? >> you're paid for business interruption, you're paid for the physical damage on sight.
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but it is a terrorist act and you don't have terrorism insurance, you may not get reimbursed. businesses had to be offered terrorism insurance. it had to be declared a certified act by the secretary of treasure. the insured property losses is going to be in the low millions of dollars, but it is the loss of business that will be so expensive. you can see how the terrorist attacks were in terms of property loss. i'm going to tell you some of the business owners behind you are starting to ask what do their policies cover and what do today cover if it is designated a terrorist attack?
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they'll be state insurance officials. this is not a physical property issue as much as it is a business interruption issue. it is going to be mess for these business owners to deal with it. they're hoping for a quick snap back in their business to try to recover what they lost in the last week because the insurance process could take a while. >> let's step back a minute. terrorism insurance? who thinks to buy terrorism insurance? >> well after september 11th, 2001, there was tens of billions of dollars of claims to the insurance companies. just like a flood, congress passed a law saying look, we need to offer people insurance against terrorism so they know they're covered if there's a terrorist attack that hurts their business and we don't take
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down the economy with these huge claims. you can see those big numbers that were on your screen. property damage from this one is going to be relative small. it is going to be the business interruption that's going to be a big problem here. say your home has been caught or your car has been caught in gunfire. if you have a regular homeowner's policy or renters insurance policy or auto policy, a terrorist act will not nullify those. for businesses what they'll be doing is trying to sort out whether -- because it was a terrorist attack, if they won't be covered under the policy under their regular insurance. >> this $20 million that's been
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raised for the one fund, that money is not going to businesses. that money is going to individuals' families, but it is not going businesses. these businesses behind us that were shut down for a week -- what christine is reporting on is incredibly significant. >> would you buy me a burger? would you send a little money and encourage other people to send money for the small businesses? i worry about the small businesses that don't the time frame. we'll see what the governor says about getting relief to the business businesses. >> i promise you i'll eat a burger on boylston street tonight. thank you very much. here in boston so many questions when it comes to this investigation and obviously the
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special coverage. let's bring you up to the min here. we have now learned the younger boston bombing suspect was unarmed when he was captured in that boat in watertown last friday. two officials briefed on the boston investigation tell cnn no firearm was found in that boat where dzhokhar tsarnaev was hiding. if you remember, police opened fire on that boat after saying the suspect had fired at them. this morning investigators are also looking into a bizarre and fascinating possibility here that this older brother, a devout muslim with fundamental beliefs, may have financed these attacks on boylston here by peddling illegal drugs. the father of dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev say terrorists are threatening the family back
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home in southern russia. he maintains their innocence. the mother beliefs this crime in boston was an elaborate hoax. she thinks actors played the main victims and the blood was nothing more than paint. makes you shake your head. >> obviously, that is false. we've been talking about the brothers -- dzhokhar tsarnaev is saying they were self-radicalized by watching videos online. it is likely anwar al awe laclas on those videos. he was killed in a drone strike
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in 2011. they say his influence continues and likely played a role in the boston marathon bombings. in a piece for cnn.com you write about how awlaki is inspiring a new generation of terrorists from the grave. explain what you mean. >> this cleric that was killed that drone strike in yemen in 2011 was a very care razzmatic figure. he was able to reach an english speaking audience. he had a very simple message with them. the united states is at war with islam and we need to fight back. he's been linked to numerous cases of terrorism across the western world. the extremists involved were
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actually downloading his sermons online. he was the driving force behind "inspire" the al qaeda magazine. investigators are looking at whether the brothers downloaded a recipe from that magazine to build their bombs. >> paul, u.s. officials told me the tsarnaev brothers it is likely they watched his videos online. there are similarities between the bombs and that article in that issue of inspire. the article as you point out titled how the build a bomb in your mother's kitchen. would watching these videos suggest a specific role for al qaeda in the boston attacks in terms of he lty?
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>> jake, awlaki and al qaeda has a very simple message for people. stay home. you don't have to join us. you can launch attacks in our name. we'll provide you the instructions in this magazine for how to do it. it may well be these people were not connected to any terrorist group. >> paul, here is my questions because we've been talking about the inspire article since last we week. what's the take away for investigators? he is inspiring these young extremists from the gave. that particular article got thousands of downloads. what is the take away for investigators and how does this
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stop? >> one of the problems is this group in yemen continues to put out this magazine. they put these dangerous instructions online. the boston devices did have striking similarities to a recipe put out in inspire magazine, how to build a bomb in your mom's kitchen right down to the how to glue the metal in the pressure cooker. a ranking member of the house committee said he was told the younger brother said they downloaded one of these recipes, brooke. >> wow. >> paul cruickshank, thanks so much. >> better check your airlines website before you head to the airport. we've seen some major delays because of the furloughs and the
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we're back now with our special coverage live in boston. we'll have the latest developments on the investigation into the boston marathon terrorist attacks. thousands of flight delays and cancellations this week because of air traffic controller furloughs, we're told. these delays are some people claiming this is just politics from the white house. what are you hearing? >> reporter: that's true, jake. of course the white house is pushing back on that as is
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transportation secretary. let's tell you what's going on. the faa has to cut $600 million from his budget by suspect. these furloughs have to kick in. all employees have to take 11 days off. that means every single day as many as 10% of the nation's 15,000 air traffic controllers aren't going to work. they're having to space out the planes fewer so planes can take off safely. it is affecting the biggest airports. we learn from chicago this morning they had only 72 planes landing per hour rather than the usual 114. as you mentioned, some have been saying the white house administration is trying to make the public feel the effect of the forced spending cuts.
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>> they wrote it. they should know what's in it. the faa has initiated a series of cost saving measures both personnel and not personnel related. termination of certainly employees and reductions to contracts. it does not give the department any flexibility to mitigate the impact on the faa. why? because it was written to be a bad law. >> reporter: and written to be a bad law, that's the story we've been hearing since the beginning of the year. there was a hearing yesterday on a committee on the hill. you had representatives talking about how they were surprised the forced spending cuts have led to these kinds of delays. we've been warning about this since february, so that's where
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we stand now. jake. >> but athena, republicans say during the whole back and forth about the sequester cuts, they offered the white house an opportunity to be selective in what was cut and the white house turned them down because the white house wanted to push forward a plan that included tax increases. isn't that the republican response to this? >> reporter: the republican response is yes, there should be a way for each of the departments in the government to be more flexible, to be able to apply spending in a more flexible way. there needs to be an overall agreement. the agreement did include tax increases. i should mention that there was a bill introduced just yesterday on the hill that would give the faa that kind of flexibility that some on the republican side of the aisle want to see.
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it is unclear what will happen with that legislation. it is clear that some of these people experiencing these delays are going to put pressure on congress. >> thank you. former president george w. bush is speaking out in boston and here is what he told john king once he heard about the news. >> as the man who was commander in chief on 9/11, what went through your mind during the explosions on the boston marathon? >> i was reminded that evil kpiss and that there are people in the world who are willing to kill innocent to advance a cause. i don't know what this cause is, but we'll find out. during the same week in a town close to us in crawford, a plant
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exploded and both incidents remind me of how fragile live can be for some and both incidents made us weep knowing that something was hurting a lot. >> reporter: president george w. bush of course was president on 9/11 when the u.s. suffered its worst terror attack in recent history. the response to 9/11 will be just one of many events in focus today as four living presidents join george w. bush for dedication of library in dallas. you got a chance to tour this museum. what's it like? >> reporter: it is really fascinating and it does follow the course of president bush's time in office chronologically
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at first. you get pre9/11 when you walk in the door, and then his domestic agenda that he was hoping would define his presidency. very quickly you're confronted with 9/11 and how that ultimately defined his presidency. you're staring at a red dress that laura bush wore to the dinner. all of a sudden you are confronted with these twisted beams from the world trade center. these are from the second tower and the first one to collapse on 9/11. you're encouraged to reach out and touch the beams and have this tangible connection to it. what follows from that are the controversial decisions that president bush made, the war on
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terror. you see saddam hussein's pistol when he was discovered and captured in 2003. the decision point theater, people go and get to here advice -- and ultimately they get to make the decisions president bush made. >> i hear that part of the human you're talking about that make it sound as if put yourself in president bush's shoes. this is why he made these decisions that you might disagree with. is that the feeling when you do it or is that a mischaracterization? >> i think that is part of. what would you do? when john king interviewed him
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about it, bush said it is not about defending my policies, it is about giving the people an opportunity to make a decision as i had to make. >> we'll have special coverage of the dedication of the presidential center. that coverage begins shortly after 11:00. wolf blitzer will have all the ceremonies live after this quick break.
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more than four years after a helicopter out of washington entered requirement, the 43rd president is back on the spotlight on the day. we're at the george bush presidential center. every u.s. president is on hand for ceremonies due to start in moments from now. here are john king, brianna, glory borger here in washington. austin, texas, douglas brinkly. let me start with gloria. set the scene for us. every president does this. this is an important event. >> reporter: it is an important event of coursely.
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modern presidents think about their legacy and their place in history. as this president has said, history will be the one to judge him he's told people jokingly along after he's gone. his popularity ratings have increased since he left office, but he is somebody of course who will be judged by history for the war in iraq, for the way he handled events like hurricane katrina and for this notion of compassion conservativism, which is a theme that runs throughout this library. what this library lets you do is judge for yourself. these are the situations president george w. bush was confronted with. >> we're going to hear from all
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the living and former presidents of the united states, the current president is there with mrs. obama and also the former presidents are all there. all of them will speak, including jimmy carter, bill clinton, george h. and w bush. this is the presidential library or president center that's made in his honor and is going to be a source for history yans for generations to come to review his eight years in the white house. give us your perspective. >> i took a tour of it a few weeks ago and i think smu has done a great job of attracting the library. it is nice. they used a lot of texas building materials. a lot of grounds are using wild flowers and prairie grass. you mentioned all the former
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presidents that are going to be there. i think it is important to have this last public moment of 41 and 43 together. i was struck by a statue of both presidents, a father and son, in a short period of time. 9/11 dominates this museum. you have in new york the big 9/11 human themuseum there. in the southern zone this will become the place people will go to try to explain to their kids what happened at 9/11. >> and it's truly one of the great moments or shall we say significant moments. it was awful what happened on 9/11, but from the bush presidency it is one of moments that turned things around for
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him. john king is there at the presidential center getting ready to watch. hear all these former presidents and the current president speak as well. you had a chance to sit down with the former president george w. bush for a very candid interview. how is he doing now? >> he is comfortable in his skin. his front ends have always said that. i am a content man, he said. he knows this dedication ceremony today will restir the issues we're talking about, his response after katrina, the war in iraq. he understands all that. he says he is not trying to overshape. he con seeds any presidential library is an effort to shape some of the conversation about his legacy. he thinks people will be surprised at how objective this
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